Jim Payne's "Empty Nets"

Subject: Jim Payne's
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Jan 99 - 03:15 AM

Jim Payne from Newfoundland wrote a great song called "Empty Nets", can anyone tell me if he also wrote the tune or if it's by someone else or if it's traditional. The reason for asking is that I wrote a song of Old Ironsides & used the tune to Empty Nets for it & if it's by Jim I'd be looking to contact him. Thanks Barry

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: Frank Maher
Date: 30 Jan 99 - 11:52 AM

Here is His e-mail Address [e-mail]

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: karen k
Date: 30 Jan 99 - 10:58 PM

Barry,

Would you post the words and tune to Empty Nets. Sounds like a song I'd like to learn. Is it recorded?

Thanks

karen k

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: Barry Finn
Date: 31 Jan 99 - 01:20 AM

Frank, thanks for the address.

KarenK, sorry, I can't do tunes or music. I only recall the chorus to the song:

Empty nets, that's what you get
When you're out on the water no time for regrets
Empty nets, that's what you get
How's a poor fisherman to pay all his debts
When all he hauls, he hauls empty nets.

I think that's pretty close. Barry

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From:
Date: 31 Jan 99 - 05:51 AM

Karen, yes, it is recorded. Jim's recording called Empty Nets. Check out the Tidemark website link for his recordings.

Jim Payne
 
For other East Coast Recordings check out Tidemark's site
 
TideMark

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: Bill Cameron
Date: 31 Jan 99 - 01:00 PM

It's one of the ironies of life that out of the great ecological and human tragedy, the collapse of the Newfoundland cod fishery (among others), so many great songs, as well as a lot of not-so-great ones, have been created. "Empty Nets" is one, Stan Rogers' "Make and Break Harbour" was an earlier one. My personal favourite is "Peter's Dream" by Lennie Gallant. It's about a young fisherman who after a night of drinking and bitter conversation with his buddies in the shut-down fishery, (the inshore cod fishery was closed for an indefinite period about 1994, and stocks don't seem to be recovering) facing the loss of his livelihood and the need to leave his hometown for economic survival, goes out and takes the drastic action of sinking his own boat at dockside with a shotgun.

Bill

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: karen k
Date: 01 Feb 99 - 09:58 AM

Thanks to Barry and George for the info. I'll be ordering soon.

karen k

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: Barry Finn
Date: 01 Feb 99 - 01:00 PM

Bill just an aside here. Over the weekend the Maine commerical cod fisheries was shut down, didn't catch the details. Barry

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From: Wally Macnow
Date: 01 Feb 99 - 06:18 PM

We also carry Jim Payne's recordings at www.camsco.com

Subject: RE: Jim Payne's
From:
Date: 01 Feb 99 - 07:44 PM

Jim Payne also did a CD with Fergus O'Byrne called "Wave Over Wave", which is well worth getting.