Mudcat for Kids

Subject: Mudcat for Kids
From: Max
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 11:48 AM

OK, I like the idea of a Mudcat for Kids, so I am going to ask for suggestions and contributions now. Bert and I thought of including projects, like how to make a hurdygurdy or a drum. We could have special listings of kids songs from the DT, perhaps a special Kids forum, instrument introduction and lessons, special question and answer sessions with adults, etc.

Please send me any contributions or ideas.

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 12:03 PM

I think this is great, Max. I think an aspect of a kids forum that would be helpful would be something that calls it to the attention of teachers who come to the Mudcat website looking for school related information, as well as a link to the Camp songs. Also, since there are old time fiddler competitions that have junior age categories, maybe you could have a link to sites for information on old time music competitions that include kids. Plans for building instruments would be wonderful. Dates of festivals that are family type music gatherings would be good in a calendar of events. alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 12:07 PM

Kids like my son live in tee shirts. Kid sizes of the Mudcat shirt would be good. Sorry the clay dyed shirts did not pan out. I still get a royalty from the company (Earth Creations) for my designs, but haven't done graphics for them since last June. I am working for the Colorado shirt company full time now from my MT office, doing designs and marketing. If you need kids shirts to be printed we can do it in Denver. alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 12:18 PM

Max...I've got lots of easy yet detailed plans for simple folk instruments (stick dulcimers, etc.). I'd be happy to contribute whatever is needed along those lines. More later...have an appt with the Doc...I will be available on this to help out though. Later,

catspaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: catspaw49
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 12:23 PM

Max...I've got lots of easy yet detailed plans for simple folk instruments (stick dulcimers, etc.). I'd be happy to contribute whatever is needed along those lines. More later...have an appt with the Doc...I will be available on this to help out though. Later,

catspaw

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: karen k
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 01:22 PM

I love the idea. I was a teacher for almost 18 years and have lots of kid related info, ideas and activities. I'm leaving now for the weekend but I'll post more ideas when I get back. This is super! Count me in. The possibilities seem endless.

karen k

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 03:06 PM

Max, the question appeared on the Mudcat CD thread about kids song. A link on the kids forum that would bring up all the lullabye lyrics, game songs and camp/scouting songs would be good. Rather than having to learn to search the database, it would be easier for kids, teachers, parents, who stop by for information to have direct links to topics that may be of interest to kids (could filter out the really bawdy songs that way). You could link to a kid friendly list of topics on things like dogs, cats, sea songs, holidays, ghosts, etc.

alice

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Laurel
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 05:10 PM

I think it is a good idea, but I'd probably still come to this one. ***grin*** I like the camp songs idea. Another thing you could add would be a link to different music and vocal camps.

Good luck! Laurel

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Big Mick
Date: 05 Feb 99 - 10:36 PM

Max, Count me in.

Mick

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 06 Feb 99 - 10:10 AM

For a stert, a search for @kids {or} @camp produces 282 hits in the DT database. An occasional one is somewhat bawdy, but then that applies to kids, too.

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Margo
Date: 06 Feb 99 - 12:59 PM

Hi Max.

I will be leading a children's chorus this summer and I promise I'll give you some input once I get into the swing of things...this is my first summer leading the chorus.

Margarita

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Bri
Date: 07 Feb 99 - 08:23 PM

Midis, i think, would be fun for kids. Lots of them, they're more fun than the words alone. Good luck! Bri

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Bert
Date: 08 Feb 99 - 04:44 PM

OK Folks,
If you send me anything that you have I'll try to put soemthing together.

My email address is [e-mail].

The closer it is to HTML format the easier it will be to handle. But if in doubt, send it.

I'm thinking of a magazine type format with regular articles. Such as...
How to make a ....
How to play a ....
Stories and folk tales.
Who's Who.
Featured instrument.
Featured song.
And so on.

So send me anything that you have. I think we'll have to avoid copyright materials, to start with at least.
If you've written a story or an article that you will let us print, send it along.

All materials and ideas welcome.

Bert.

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 19 Feb 99 - 12:45 PM

I am going to be singing for a 6th grade class on February 26, and will talk to them regarding learning more about folk music. I told the teacher about the Mudcat and DT and the idea of a kid's forum. She asked me to provide the information to the class (11 and 12 year olds). The teacher agreed with me that most kids today have not learned folksongs unless they have learned them in school. She said that parents are no longer singing them or playing folk recordings at home the way they used to. This class is a 6 week general music class that has a curriculum each week that follows this format:
Africa
Latin America/Caribbean
Asia
Europe
North America
(learning Native American song and one U.S. folk song)
Today's Contemporary World
So, if you like, I will ask the students what they would like to have on a Folk music website for kids. I am also going to provide them with information to get to the Mudcat and the DT.

The Montana Winter Fair here just had a fiddle contest for juniors and adults as part of the fair program. Performers from around the region attended.

alice in montana

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Animaterra
Date: 19 Feb 99 - 02:56 PM

ONE US folk song?????? However do you pick which one??? I was offered a job with that kind of schedule- see an entire grade level for one quarter of the school year, give them their entire music fix for the year. Luckily I also was offered a job that really valued music for kids- guess whick one I took?

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Baz
Date: 19 Feb 99 - 03:45 PM

My wife and I have just started an after school folk session with some kids so we would be grateful for anything you can come up with. We will also contribute any ideas we get.
Regards Baz

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 19 Feb 99 - 03:54 PM

Animaterra, I agree. It is a dismal situation, especially considering this is an elective course, so most of the students in that grade don't even get the six weeks.

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Alice
Date: 26 Dec 02 - 01:51 PM

I have a page of mp3's for kids that can be linked to the Mudcat Kids page if you want them:

"AUNT ALICE" Stories & Songs

Alice Flynn

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: MAG
Date: 26 Dec 02 - 08:57 PM

Maybe, for people like me who sing to kids a lot, some child-developmentally grouped things, like baby bounces -- my professional DGs do this all the time.

*baby bounce: 1)a lap rhyme for bouncing babies. 2) Any song you know to which a baby can be bounced (I once heard Margaret Christl say she bounced to Cuckoo's Nest -- the kid is probably grown by now.) 3) Anything you raid from Mother Goose which is good for bouncing babies eg: Leg over leg as the dog went to Dover; he came to a stile(fence) and whoops! he jumped over 4) any song for older kids which you can addapt to baby bouncing: I put my hand on myself, what is this here, this is the eye-winker(chin chopper, nose blower) oh Mama dear ...

Can you tell I have a baby lapsit time that I just adore?

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 02:59 AM

For baby bouncing, personnaly, I favoured the 'speak roughly to your little boy' from Lewis Carroll's 'Alice in Wonderland' -the song sung by the duchess to the baby who became a pig. Bratling loved it and still gets it occasionally, although she is far too heavy to bounce, so I just beat her instead.

LTS

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 11:31 AM

I was bounced to The Galloping Major!

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: MMario
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 11:57 AM

we always bounced to "Banbury Cross"

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Jeanie
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 12:09 PM

Me too, Mrs. Duck ! I used to pester my mum and dad every night for what I called "The Gleeapaway " (Hey, Hey, clear the way, here comes the galloping major!"). I was then bounced up to bed every night to the signature tune of The Archers.

My daughter's favourite was:

Here comes a lady with her little baby,
A nim, a nim, a nim

Here comes my lord with his trusty sword,
A trot, a trot, a trot

Here comes old Jack with a broken pack
A gallopy, gallopy, GALLOP !

And what about the foot-slapping songs ? (for want of a better description):

Shoe the little horse
Shoe the little mare
But let the little colts go bare, bare, bare

and:

Hob shoe hob, hob shoe hob
Here a nail
There a nail
And that's well shod

(The latter two are at least as good as a reflexology session)

- jeanie

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: MAG
Date: 27 Dec 02 - 09:09 PM

Yep, I use all the above except Galloping Major, 'cause I don't know it. How about adding it? And is Dick fuming somewhere because we are being cryptic?

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 05:36 AM

Mag:
I could'a sworn I'd seen this here somewhere, but can't trace. so 1 verse (open to correction!)

Bumpetty Bumpetty Bumpetty bump
As if I was riding a charger.
Bumpetty Bumpetty Bumpetty bump
As proud as an Indian Rajah
All the girls declare that "He's a gay old stager"
Hey, Hey, clear the way
Here comes the galloping major


Nigel

Subject: RE: Mudcat for Kids
From: Tig
Date: 28 Dec 02 - 05:23 PM

I only ever knew there was one verse. I do remember being bounced over and over again to it though.