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Chord Req: Slow Train (Flanders and Swann)

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Subject: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 12:43 PM

Anybody got the chords for "Slow Train" by Flanders and Swann?

I can have a stab at most of it but if anybody has them from a book or sheet music so I can compare my effort with Donald Swann then I'd be grateful.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 02:48 PM

Ralphie might be able to help - he's recorded this with Patterson, Jordan, Dipper on "Flat Earth".

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:05 PM

Crikey, I was trying to figure these out over the weekend ... (failed) I can tell you it's in 6/8


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Leadfingers
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 04:41 PM

I bought the Flanders and Swann Song Book YEARS ago - The trouble is its all in piano notation , and it takes me so long to sort those pigeons on TWO lots of telegraph wires that I havent worked out a single chord run yet !!


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 05:49 PM

Hi Leadfingers

Any chance of sending a scan of the pages for "Slow Train" please? Music is Greek to me but I know a man who understands it!

email mark@markdowding.co.uk

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: Chords Add: SLOW TRAIN (Flanders & Swann)
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 24 Apr 06 - 08:20 PM

Mark

I've just had a quick listen and a rough version of the start is:

Miller's(1F) Dale for (5Am)Tideswell ...(3Gm) (1C7)
next 2 similarly
Kirby Muxloe ...
Mow Cop and Scholar Green ...

No (1F)more will I (1Am)go to (1Dm)Blandford (1F)Forum and (3Gm)Morte(1C7)hoe (3Gm) (1C7)
On the (1F)slow (1Am)train from (1Dm)Midsomer (1F)Norton and (5Dm)Mum(5Gm7)by (3C7)Road. (5Dm)(5Gm7)(3C7)
No (5F)churns, no (5Am)porter, no (6Dm7)cat on a (3Gm)seat
At (3Gm)Chorlton-cum-(3C7)Hardy or (6Bb)Chester-le-(5A7)Street.
We (10Dm)won't be (9DmMaj7)meeting ag(6Dm7)ain (6Dm6)
On the (3Gm)Slow (6Gm) (10Gm) (9C7)Train.


Here I'm using the inital number as the fret the chord starts on. If I had more time I'd do a better job of the chord description, but eg 1F is XX4211, 1Am is XX2210; most of them are obvious. 5Gm7 is XX5766, 6Dm7 is XX7768. The 10Dm.. section is XX0(10)(10)(10), XX0(10)(10)9, XX7768, XX7767, giving a chromatic descent on the 1st string.

I'm busy with other things at the moment, but if I have time tomorrow night, I'll have a closer look and do the chords for the bridge. Hope this is a help (if not, I can translate Terry's music too if you want).

Mick


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:38 AM

I did come across a program called MIDIscan some years ago. I think I still have a copy of the demo on a floppy disk somewhere.

The demo worked sufficiently well that if you scanned a page of a score, and it made a MIDI file, my program FIND MIDI CHORDS would give you the chords!

Like most OCR, the output was not 100%, but good enough to recognise chords.

Bit of a roundabout method, but it worked.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:40 AM

And I also wrote a program which creates a Karaoke format (.KAR) file with chords displayed instead of words.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:43 AM

Better put in a plug:

You can download FIND MIDI CHORDS from


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 03:47 AM

Oops Finger trouble


You can download FIND MIDI CHORDS from my web site

(This used to be a commercial program, distributed by HANDS-ON MIDI software, a major supplier of professional MIDI backing tracks)

You will also find HARMONY, which can add the chords if you only have the melody (in MIDI or in abc format).


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Subject: Chords Add: SLOW TRAIN (Flanders & Swann)
From: Fullerton
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 04:52 AM

C        C/b         Am        Am/e        Dm7        Gsus4        Dm7        G

C        C/b         Am        Am/e        Dm7        Gsus4        Dm7        G

Em         /        Am9        Am         Dm7        /        Bm7b5        E

Am/maj7         Am7         D        Dm        Gish        G        G        /

I Capod on the fifth fret to get these

No-ones mentioned the Bm7b5. (023230) A.K.A. B half diminished. Its a very distinctive twist at the end of line 3

Am with a maj7 is used at the beginning of the last line - its dissonant and sounds horrible out of context but its in there.

x0x554

If in doubt, play wild rover!

Cheers Mark


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 07:57 AM

Thanks for the help so far people.
This is one of those songs that I've put off learning for too long but I've been asked to do an evening of railway songs in Shrewsbury in June and it's a "must do" song!

Without getting into the "what is a folk song" debate, musically, this song is way above the three chord trick of most songs and doesn't sound right without those finger twisting, mind bending, brain numbing chord runs that put people off jazz guitar for life!

I shall have a go at what's been put on here so far - it's probably very close to what I do already but the addition of those sus4, maj7, 7b5 etc makes all the difference.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 11:15 AM

What other songs do you have?

Cannily Cannily by Ewan McColl sounds a possibility.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 11:58 AM

Not sure what you are planning to do, but a few suggestions!

Folk (-ish)
Cannily Cannily (McColl)
Song of the Iron Road (McColl)
Travelling by Steam
Train Song (Pentangle)

Pop
Chattanooga Cho Cho
Locomotion?
Homeward Bound
Last Train to Clarkesville
Midnight Train to Georgia

Blues
Midnight Train
Midnight Special
Freight Train
It takes a lot to laugh (It takes a train to cry) Dylan
Life is just a slow train crawling up a hill (John Mayall)

Country & American
Orange Blossom Special
Wreck of the old 97
Casey Jones
Last Train to San Fernando
Rock Island Line
City of New Orleans


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 12:58 PM

Amongst the songs I've got on the list apart from Slow Train are:
Moses of the Mail
A Servant of the Company by Paul Connor
Ais Gill by Dave Goulder
Station People by DG
Alice White by Alan Bell
Last Train by Stanley Accrington
No Use For Him by Eric Bogle
In the Sidings by Cyril Tawney
A poem by Les Barker about 8F freight trains
and one or two others as well

I've also got a few sound clips of my mate Frank who is now 77ish and used to work as a relief signalman for 47 years before retiring. I recorded a lot of his tales of steam and the railway and we're going to put a few of the tales in amongst the songs.

I'm doing this with Chris Harvey who is also a steam railway enthuisiast - he specialises in old engine sheds.

The songs above are all British which is a conscious decision rather than use American songs which was first suggested by the organisers who to be fair to them aren't folkies but my partner's mother knew I did this sort of stuff and asked if I could contribute something.

We're going to do a CD of the songs for the Shrewsbury and Montgomery Railway Society to sell in their shop when they get things sorted but that will be available from them not me.

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 25 Apr 06 - 01:46 PM

Yes - I like the m7b5. That would be Em7b5 in the version I gave, replacing the Bb (and having the Bb note on top: X7X786). (Fullteron's chords in C with capo on 5 give same key F, as on the recording).

Mick


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: pavane
Date: 26 Apr 06 - 06:16 AM

I do think Cannily Cannily would be a good contrast to the others!
You don't get many raiway lullabies.

Do you know it? I think Steeleye Span recorded it, and the words are here.

But best wishes for the gig anyway.

(From an ex-train-spotter or shouldn't I admit that. Want a picture of the last Claude Hamilton, waiting to be broken up at Stratford in 1961?)


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Flanders and Swann - Slow Train
From: Mark Dowding
Date: 03 May 06 - 01:57 PM

Well we got it sorted! After taking advice from this thread and listening to the CD of "At the drop of another hat" and staying up till all hours on the keyboard playing the thing 500 times we got close enough. No wonder I haven't played the song before now. Maybe it's time I did!

Cheers
Mark


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Slow Train (Flanders and Swann)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 20 Apr 17 - 04:48 AM

YouTube, with photos of the stations
https://youtu.be/zTFcN8RsJbs


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Slow Train (Flanders and Swann)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 20 Apr 17 - 02:56 PM

X:1
T:Slow Train
C:lyrics:Michael Flanders & tune:Donald Swann
C: https://youtu.be/zTFcN8RsJbs
L:1/8
Q:1/4=79
M:6/8
I:linebreak $
K:Fmaj
V:1 treble
%%MIDI program 0
V:1
z z z z z C | F2 F/F/ F2 F | F2 F FGA | G2 C C3 | z z z z $
w: No|more will I go to|Bland- ford for- um and|Mor- te- hoe|
CC | F3 F2 F | FFF FGA | A2 B G3 | z z z z z $
w: On the|slow train from|Mid- so- mer Nor- ton and|Mum- by Road|
G | A2 A ABc |               cDD D2       D | GGG GAB | BA>G A2 $
w: No|churns, no por- ter, no|cat on a seat, at|Chorl- ton- cum- har- dy or|Che- ster- le Street;
A | A2 A AFD | A3 z GF | C3 C3 | z z z z z $
w: We|won't be mee- ting a-|gain on the|Slow Train.|
C | FF>F F2 F | FFF FGA | G2 C C2 z | z z z z z $
w: I'll|tra- vel no more from|Li- ttle- ton Bad- sey to|O- pen- shaw.|
C | F3 FFF | F2 F FGA | A2 B G2 z | z z z z z $
w: At|Long- Stan- ton I'll|stand well clear of the|doors no more.|
G | A2 A ABc | c zD/D/ D2 D | GGG GAB | B2 A/G/ A2 $
w: No|white- washed pe- bles, no|'Up' & no 'Down' From|Form- by Four Cro- ses to|Dun- sta- ble Town,
A | A2 A AFD | A3 z GF | C3 C3 | z z z z $
w: I|won't be go- ing a-|gain on the|Slow Train.|
CC | c A2 z FF | C2 D c2 z | z z =B B2 _A | E3 z2 $
w: On the|main line and the|goods si- ding|the grass grows|high,
E | AA z z z G/F/ | G G2 z z A |DDD D2 z |z z z z z $
w: at|Dog Dyke Tum- by|Wood- side and|Trou- ble House Halt|
E | F2 E F3 | z z F FGA | G2 C C2 z | z z z z z $
w: The|slee- pers sleep|at Aud- lem and|Am- ber- gate|
C | FFF F2 F | FFF FGA | A2 B G3 | z6 | $
w:No|pa- sen- ger waits on|Chi- tte- ning plat- form or| Ches- lyn Hay||
AAA A2 z | cDD D2 D | GGG G2 G/A/ | BAG A2 $
w: No- one de- parts|No one a- rrives from|Sel- by to Goole from St.|Erth to St. Ives.
A | A2 A AFD |A3 z GF |                      C3 C3 |   z2 z2   $
w: They've|all passed out of our|lives On the|Slow Thrain|
DC    | F3 F3 | z6 | z6 | z2 z2 $
w: On the|Slow Train|||
DC | F3 F3 | z6 | z6 | z2 z2 $
w: On the|Slow Train||||||||
DC | F3 F3 | z6 | z6 | z6 | z6 | $
w: On the|Slow Train |
W:
W:
W:(Miller's Dale for Tideswell…Kirby Muxloe…Mow Cop and Scholar Green)
W:No         more will I go to         Blandford Forum and         Mortehoe         _   _
W:On the         slow train from         Midsomer Norton and Mumby Road         _   _
W:No         churns, no porter, no         cat on a seat
W:At         Chorlton-cum-Hardy or         Chester-le-Street
W:We         won't be meeting a        gain    _ On the         Slow Train         _   _
W:
W:I'll         travel no more from         Littleton Badsey to         Openshaw         _   _
W:At         Long Stanton I'll stand well clear of the         doors no more         _   _
W:No         whitewashed pebbles, no         Up and no Down
W:From         Formby Four Crosses to         Dunstable Town
W:I         won't be going a        gain      _ On the         Slow Train         _   _
W:
W:On the         Main Line _ and the         goods siding   
W:         _ The grass grows         high _
W:At         Dog Dyke, _Tumby         Woodside _
W:And         Trouble House Halt         _   _ .
W:
W:The         Sleepers sleep            _    at Audlem   and        Ambergate        _   _
W:No         passenger waits on         Chittening platform or        Cheslyn Hay        _    _
W:         No one departs,         no one arrives
W:From         Selby to Goole, from St         Erth to St Ives
W:They've all passed out of our lives   _ On the Slow Train,         _   _
W:on the         Slow Train         _   _         
W:
W:(Cockermouth for Buttermere )...          _    _
W:on the         Slow Train        (Armley Moor Arram )
W:          _    (Pye Hill and         Somercotes ... ) _
W:on the         Slow Train          _      (Windmill End)
W:        _       _         _       _
W:        _


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