Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please

Subject: STEP BY STEP need melody
From:
Date: 10 Nov 99 - 08:05 PM

Can any of you mudcatters offer up the melody to this song. I've got the beginning I think from my recolection of someone singing it but can't seem to get the middle part. Help me if you can (I'm feeling dooooown) not really. Thanks

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Step by Step need melody
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 11 Nov 99 - 12:02 AM

Not enough info to lock the song down solid. You might be referring to "The Garden Song" ("Step by step, row by row; I'm gonna make this garden grow...") by David Mallett. Pretty sure you'll find it in the DT by that title. For sure it's in the "Rise Up Singing" songbook.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Step by Step need melody
From: Stewie
Date: 11 Nov 99 - 01:58 AM

No, 'Step by Step' is right. The lyrics are part of the preamble to the constitution of the early coal miner's union. Part of it is on 'Carry It On' - Pete Seeger, Jane Sapp and Si Kahn Flying Fish. The tune is to the Irish 'The Praties they grow small, over here'. As I recall there is a thread on foot about that tune. I have a full version of the lyrics somewhere, but I can't recall where at the moment.

Regards, Stewie.

Subject: RE: Tune Req: Step by Step need melody
From: alison
Date: 11 Nov 99 - 08:25 AM

you can find the tune of the praties they grow small at Mudcat MIDIs under "p" for praties....

if you need the GIF of the dots, let me know.....

slainte

alison

Subject: Tune for Step by Step Please
From: GUEST,heather
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 11:27 AM

Does any one know the tune for the round 'Step by Step the longest march can be won?'Thanks.

Subject: RE: Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 02:16 PM

Well, I usually start it out of Am...

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tune for Step by Step Please
From: GUEST,Ian Pittaway
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 02:30 PM

You'll find it on Sweet Honey in the Rock's album, The Other Side.

Subject: RE: Tune for Step by Step Please
From: W y s i w y G !
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 02:35 PM

Sweet Honey clip:

HERE

~S~

Subject: RE: Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 02:38 PM

Link to the notes on sheet music. Pete Seeger put the melody to it.

from

unionsong.com/u030.html

Subject: Origins: Step by Step
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 03:48 PM

Here's what Pete Seeger says in his songbook, Where Have All the Flowers Gone?:

Waldemar Hille, editing the People's Songs bulletin in 1948, once showed me two short verses he found when researching U.S. labor history.

Step by step the longest march
Can be won, can be won.
Many stones can form an arch,
Singly none, singly none.

And by union what we will
Can be accomplished still
Drops of water turn a mill,
Singly none, singly none.


It was printed in the preamble to the constitution of an early coal miner's union. Says Wally, "good verse." Says I, "What's the tune?"
"I don't know," says Wally, "I suppose some old Irish tune might fit it. Like the song from the Irish famine of the 1840's, 'The Praties they Grow Small.'"
"Let's try it," says I. It fit. And has been sung to that melody ever since.

The Digital Tradition has these same lyrics, but no tune, and says the lyrics are "From Ruthie Gorton, from the preamble to the constitution of the United Mineworkers of America." The Seeger songbook says the author is unknown, from the preamble to the constitution of the American Mineworkers Association (1863); music arranged and adapted by Waldemar Hills and Pete Seeger (1948) from the traditional Irish song "The Praties They Grow Small."

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So, is it Waldemar Hills, Hille, or both? In most things I've seen about People's Songs, he's Hille - but he's identified as "Hills" in copyright information for "Step By Step" in two Seeger songbooks.

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Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 04:15 PM

5.-   Pas a pas (Step by step) Ll: autor desconegut. Mús: Waldemar Hills i Pete Seeger/Rah-mon Roma

The site that's from

www.rah-mon.com/espectacles/espec/seegers.html

is Spanish, but that attribution appears there. This is a pic of Rah-mon Roma.

It's my lot in life to confuse situations.

Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Peace
Date: 22 Jul 06 - 04:23 PM

Incidentally, the spelling 'Waldemar Hills' googled in quotation marks gives only that one site, so I suspect it's a misspelling.

A google of "waldemar Hille" provides scads of sites showing Hille as an author of articles and contributor to various publications. There is a NYT article (July 12, 1990) that mentions him here. The pertinent part is quoted below:

"Waldemar Hille joined the Communist Party 48 years ago believing that the movement would create a more compassionate and humane America.

Today, as Communism falters in Europe, the 82-year-old Mr. Hille is fighting to preserve ''an important people's institution,'' a retirement home for political activists.

We're not just wallowing in resignation here,'' said Mr. Hille, a pianist who is one of nine residents of the home, Sunset Hall in downtown Los Angeles. ''We're fighting for our rights.'' Other residents said their building offered them a special environment of humanistic intellectualism."

Subject: Tune Req: step by step
From: GUEST,blether
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 06:22 PM

Does anyone know the tune to the round 'Step by step the longest march can be won?'

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Hi - I moved you over here to the previous discussion.
-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-

Subject: RE: Tune Req: step by step
From: Peace
Date: 03 Aug 06 - 06:37 PM

Step by Step

Step by step the longest march
Can be won, can be won
Many stones can form an arch
Singly none, singly none
And by union what we will
Can be accomplished still
Drops of water turn a mill
Singly none singly none

Sound sample here.

I think you should be able to extrapolate the balance of the music from what's in that sound sample. G'luck to ya.

Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Joe Offer
Date: 04 Aug 06 - 03:10 AM

I meant to do a MIDI for the previous request, but I forgot. Here 'tis:

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Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Canyonguy
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 09:43 AM

Heard a nice version on Amy Goodmans show democracy now

Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 09:51 AM

The site Peace linked to is Catalan, not Spanish. Looks like an interesting project.

Subject: RE: Origins/Tune for Step by Step Please
From: W y s i w y G !
Date: 07 Jun 10 - 02:21 PM

There is another wonderful song by the same name. I oughtta post the lyrics, unless Rasmussen beats me to it. We do it often in worship. I may have a soundfile if I can find it.

~Susan