Lyr Req: James Larkin (from The Dubliners)

Subject: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 06:07 AM

Reposting, having mixed up subject and From lines in the first attempt. Sorry.

Sorry to ask here, but I can't find the song James Larkin on any of the Dubliners' CDs. Which CD is it on (and who sings it), please?

Subject: RE: JTT
From: GUEST,JT
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 06:10 AM

You'll find it on "Songs of Dublin - Ballads Booze and Craic" sung by the Dubliners and "Irish Rebel Ballads" by the lads themselves.

Subject: RE: JTT
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 06:26 AM

Gracenote is the best starting point for this type of query.

Try this link

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: ossonflags
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 06:49 AM

Christy Moore recorded it on his first album? "paddy on the road"

look here

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 07:22 AM

Paddy Reilly is very good at singing "James Larkin", it goes under another tite called, "1913 Lockout".

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: GUEST,Nellie Clatt
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:21 AM

A strange song, it sings the praises of James Larking but ends up being about James Connolly.

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: GUEST,James Larkin
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:23 AM

Larkin fer fecks sake, you ould harridan.

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:33 AM

I went to their website and I looked at the records bit and I couldn't see it.

Tom

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 08:55 AM

Obviously just Larking about
not to to be confused with the Larking the Morning

Subject: RE: James Larkin and the Dubliners
From: Shaneo
Date: 26 Nov 06 - 11:06 AM

The best version of James Larkin I ever heard was by The South Dublin Union , if you get your hands on a copy of it you will never listen to another version

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 07:04 PM

Thanks very much! Turns out it's by Donagh MacDonagh.

Songs of Dublin looks to be out of print, though.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Snuffy
Date: 27 Nov 06 - 08:35 PM

In the UK at least it's on a CD called Wild Irish Rover, which is part of a 3 CD set with Ireland's Prodigal Sons and Seven Drunken Nights

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Wolfgang
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 06:36 AM

The McKenna brothers (LP "Live at O'Donoghue's") sing a fine version of it under the title "Dublin City".

Wolfgang

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: MartinRyan
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 07:00 AM

JTT

"Songs of Dublin" is out of print - but not too difficult to pick up. Drop me a PM if you'd like a copy.

Regards

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: breezy
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 07:10 AM

Larkin in st Albans!

Any connection?

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,Decky02
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 09:46 AM

James Larkin is on a "3CD BOX-SET" from the Dubliners it is called,
"The Dubliners The Best Of",   Ronnie Drew is singing the song it last for 1 minute 57 seconds.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: theballadeer
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 10:12 AM

The Dubliners, as a group, didn't record the song, that's why you can't find it in their discography. Ronnie Drew recorded on his first (self-titled) solo album...
info here

Nick

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 12:04 PM

The Dubliners didn't recored it Ronnie Drew did, which isn't the dubliners.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 12:05 PM

Sorry I was wrong again

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,mick
Date: 28 Nov 06 - 05:02 PM

Does anyone have the words or know who wrote them? There are some great lines in it but I find it a bit cloyish in its sentiments to Larkin .

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 04:23 AM

I'm assuming it's THIS ONE . The original title was "Dublin City 1913". I posted the version in the DT (nearly 10 years ago!). It's the way I sing it - one dropped verse and a few minor changes. I'll post the missing verse if nobody gets there first.

Regards

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 04:24 AM

Written, BTW, by the poet Donagh MacDonagh, son of Tomás, mentioned in the last verse.

Regards

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 04:52 AM

If the Dubliners didn't record it, it's strange then that it's on one of their CDs

eric

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 05:58 AM

Donagh MacDonagh wrote the song about James Larkin

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 08:12 AM

ronnie drew sang it not the dubliners.

they issue cd's called the dubliners feturing Luke Kelly, or Ronnie drew

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 08:16 AM

Was Ronnie not a Dubliner then ?

eric

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 08:54 AM

he was in the Dubliners yes however he sometimes recoreds on his own.

Ronnie Drew does a solo act as well.

Tom

Subject: Lyr Add: JAMES LARKIN (from The Dubliners)
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 08:59 AM

this is the record it came from

The Dubliners - JAMES LARKIN

From the album "Down By The Glensides"

In Dublin City in nineteen thirteen
The boss was rich and the poor were slaves
The women working and children starving
Then on came Larkin like a mighty wave
The workers cringed when the boss man thundered
Seventy hours was his weekly chore
He asked for little and less was granted
Lest given little then he'd ask for more

In the month of August the boss man told us
No union man for him could work
We stood by Larkin and told the boss man
We'd fight or die, but we wouldn't shirk
Eight months we fought and eight months we starved
We stood by Larkin through thick and thin
But foodless homes and the crying of children
It broke our hearts, we just couldn't win

Then Larkin left us, we seemed defeated
The night was black for the working man
But on came Connolly with new hope and counsel
His motto was that we'd rise again
In nineteen sixteen in Dublin City
The English soldiers they burnt our town
The shelled our buildings and shot our leaders
The Harp was buried 'neath the bloody crown

They shot McDermott and Pearse and Plunkett
They shot McDonagh and Clarke the brave
From bleak Kilmainham they took Ceannt's body
To Arbour Hill and a quicklime grave
But last of all of the seven heroes
I sing the praise of James Connolly
The voice of justice, the voice of freedom
He gave his life, that man might be free

   
   
    The Dubliners Songs

All For Me Grog
Black Velvet Band
Dirty Old Town
James Larkin
Lord Of The Dance
Seven Drunken Nights
Take It Down from the Mast
The Molly Maguires
The Wild Rover
Whiskey In The Jar
Wild Rover (No Nay Never)


   


The Dubliners Albums

Down By The Glensides
Original Dubliners
The Best Of The Dubliners

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: MartinRyan
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 09:29 AM

Now that I look again at the version in the Digital Tradition, I see that it does include the second verse omitted by both myself and Ronnie Drew! Mick - you're not the only one who finds that verse out of place!

Regards

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Tom Hamilton frae Saltcoats Scotland
Date: 29 Nov 06 - 12:41 PM

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This article is about the Irish folk band. For the book by James Joyce, see Dubliners.
The Dubliners are an Irish folk band founded in 1962, making them one of the older bands still playing music today.

Contents [hide]
1 Formation
2 Band members
3 Instrumentals
4 Popularity
5 25th anniversary
6 Discography (unfinished)
7 External links



[edit] Formation
The Dubliners formed in 1962. They made a name for themselves playing regularly in O'Donoghue's pub in Dublin.


[edit] Band members
Ronnie Drew (1962-1974; 1979-1995) Vocals, Guitar
Luke Kelly (1962-1984) Vocals, Banjo
Ciaran Bourke (1962-1974) Vocals, Guitar, Tin Whistle, Harmonica
Barney McKenna (1962-) Banjo, Mandolin, Accordeon, Vocals
John Sheahan (1964-) Violin, Mandolin, Tin Whistle
Bobby Lynch (1964-1965) Vocals, Guitar
Jim McCann (1974-1979) Vocals, Guitar
Sean Cannon (1982-) Vocals, Guitar
Eamonn Campbell (1987-) Guitar, Mandolin
Paddy Reilly (1995-2005) Vocals, Guitar
Patsy Watchorn (2005-) Vocals, Banjo, Bodhran
The founding members were Ronnie Drew, Luke Kelly, Ciaran Bourke and Barney McKenna.

Drew spent some time in Spain in his younger years where he learned to play Flamenco guitar, and he accompanied his songs on a Spanish guitar. His grave voice has been compared to a cement mixer and the sound of coke bottles being crushed under a door, it is instantly recognizable. Drew left the band in 1974 to spend more time with his family, to be replaced by Jim McCann. He returned to the Dubliners five years later, but left the group again in 1995. Paddy Reilly took his place this time around. Some of his most significant contributions to the band are the hit single Seven Drunken Nights, his rendition of Finnegan's wake, and McAlpine's Fusiliers.

Luke Kelly was more of a balladeer than Drew, and he played chords on the five-string banjo. Kelly sang many defining versions of beautiful songs: traditionals like 'Black Velvet Band', 'Whiskey in the Jar' (later played by metal bands Thin Lizzy and Metallica), 'Home Boys Home'; but also Phil Coulter's 'The Town I Loved So Well', Ewan McColl's 'Dirty Old Town' also recorded by The Pogues and 'Raglan Road', written by the famous Irish poet Patrick Kavanagh. Kavanagh met Kelly in a pub, and asked him to sing the song. It was later recorded by artists like Mark Knopfler, Van Morrison, Sinéad O'Connor and many others. In 1980, Luke Kelly was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Though first the chemotherapy seemed to work, after a while things started getting worse again. Knowing his time would not be long, the band took on a replacement in 1982, Sean Cannon. Sometimes Kelly was too ill to sing, sometimes he joined the band for a few songs, and sometimes he collapsed on stage, but he didn't stop touring with the band until 2 months before his death. One of the last concerts he took part in was recorded and released: 'Live in Carré' (Amsterdam, Holland), released in 1983. John Sheahan introduces him when he comes on, and explains that he went for a walk and got lost, but obviously that wasn't the real reason he was late. In November 2004, the Dublin city council voted unanimously to erect a bronze statue of Luke Kelly. Kelly is buried in Glasnevin Cemetery in Dublin.

Ciaran Bourke was a singer, but he also played the guitar, tin whistle and harmonica. He sang many songs in Gaelic ('Peggy Lettermore'; 'Preab san ol'). In 1974 disaster struck for Ciaran Bourke: he collapsed on stage after having a brain hemorrhage. First he made a miraculous recovery, but then he collapsed again, this time paralyzed on his left side. Bourke died in 1988. The band always kept hoping for his return; they never officially took on an official fifth member before his death, and they never stopped paying him.

Barney McKenna is a talented tenor banjo and mandolin player. In the Dubliners' stage shows he sings sea shanties and love songs to minimal instrumental accompaniment. He is also well known amongst friends, colleagues and fans as a great teller of tall stories and jokes.

John Sheahan and Bobby Lynch joined the band in 1964. They had been playing during the interval at concerts, and usually stayed on for the second half of the show. When Luke Kelly moved to England in 1964, Lynch was taken on as his temporary replacement. According to Sheahan, he was never (and still has not) ever officially been asked to join the band. Sheahan is the only member to have had a musical education.


[edit] Instrumentals
They also played many instrumental tunes, mostly traditional reels, jigs and hornpipes. In the early days when they played at O'Donoghue's Pub, Bobby Lynch and fiddle/tin whistle player John Sheahan would play during the breaks, and sometimes they stayed on stage after the interval. When Luke Kelly left for England in 1964, they were asked to join the group. During this period without Luke Kelly, their 1965 CD 'In Concert' was recorded; Lynch can be heard singing 'Roddy MacCorley' (with Ciaran Bourke), Dominic Behan's 'Patriot Game', 'The Kerry Recruit' and 'The Leaving of Liverpool' (with Ronnie). When Kelly returned, Lynch left the band and Sheahan stayed. Bobby Lynch eventually died in 1982.


[edit] Popularity
The Dubliners became very well known, not just in Ireland; they were also pioneers for Irish folk in Europe and also (though less successful) in the United States. Their 1967 recordings of 'Seven Drunken Nights' and 'The Black Velvet Band' were released on the fledgling Major Minor label, and were heavily promoted on pirate station Radio Caroline. The result was that both records reached the UK pop charts.

The Dubliners spent the late sixties and early seventies touring, playing, but mostly and most importantly: drinking. Then in 1974 disaster struck for Ciaran Bourke: he collapsed on stage after having a brain hemorrhage. First he made a miraculous recovery, but then he collapsed again, this time paralyzed on his left side. Bourke died in 1988. The band always kept hoping for his return; they never officially took on a fifth member before his death, and they never stopped paying him.

Also in 1974, Ronnie Drew decided to quit the band, to spend more time with his family. He was replaced with Jim McCann. Before joining the band McCann had a TV show in the early seventies called 'The McCann man'. He is best known for his incarnations of 'Carrickfergus', Makem's 'Four Green Fields', and 'Lord of the Dance'. He stayed with the band until 1979 to start a solo career; then Ronnie Drew rejoined the band.


[edit] 25th anniversary
In 1987, the Dubliners celebrated their 25th anniversary. They recorded a double CD, produced by Eamonn Campbell, long time friend and guest musician. He introduced them to The Pogues, and their collaboration resulted in a hit with "The Irish Rover". Christy Moore, Paddy Reilly and Jim McCann also featured on the CD; Moore sings a tribute to Luke Kelly, and McCann sings the song "I Loved the Ground She Walked Upon", written by Phil Coulter and Ralph McTell. The following year, to coincide with Dublin's millenial celebrations, Radio Telefís Éireann produced an hour long special on the band and the city's influence on their music, titled The Dubliner's Dublin.

In 1996 Ronnie Drew quit the band, and Paddy Reilly came on to replace him. Reilly, a long time friend of the group, toured with them before on several occasions; he was already a successful solo artist in Ireland, scoring hits with "The Fields of Athenry" and "The Town I Loved So Well" In 2002, they temporarily reunited with Ronnie Drew and Jim McCann, for their 40th anniversary tour. During this tour, they recorded their first DVD. Sadly, Jim McCann was diagnosed with throat cancer after the tour, and though he fully recovered his voice was severely damaged, and he has not been able to sing since his illness. Despite this, Jim regularly acts as MC at folk gigs, notably at Dubliners reunion shows and at the 2006 'Legends of Irish Folk' shows (where he also played guitar in the finale). In 2005 Paddy Reilly decided to move to the United States, and Patsy Watchorn joined the group. Watchorn made name for himself with The Dublin City Ramblers; like Luke Kelly, he accompanies his songs on the 5 string banjo.

After 43 years, the band still tours Europe every year, though instrumentalists Barney McKenna and John Sheahan are the only original members left in the band.


[edit] Discography (unfinished)
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1964 The Dubliners and Luke Kelly
1965 In Concert
1966 Finnegan Wakes
1967 A Drop of the Hard Stuff (a.k.a. 7 Drunken Nights)
1967 More of the Hard Stuff
1968 Drinking and Courting (a.k.a. Seven Deadly Sins)
1968 At it again (a.k.a. Whiskey on a Sunday)
1969 Live at the Royal Albert Hall
1969 At Home with The Dubliners
1969 It's The Dubliners
1970 Revolution
1972 Hometown
1972 Double Dubliners
1973 Plain and simple
1974 Live
1975 Now
1976 A Parcel of Rogues
1977 Live at Montreux
---- Home, Boys, Home
1977 15 Years On (reassembling)
1979 Together Again
1983 Prodigal Sons
1983 Live at Carre
1983 21 Years On (reassembling)
1987 25 Years Celebration (reassembling)
1988 Dubliner's Dublin
1992 30 Years A-Greying (reassembling)
1992 Off to Dublin Green
1996 Further Along
1997 Alive Alive-O
1997 The Defenitive Transatlantic Collection
2000 Original Dubliners
2000 Collection (reassembling)
2002 The best of The Dubliners
---- At their best
2002 The Transatlantic Anthology
---- 40 Year Celebration (half reassembling)
---- Live at the Gaiety
2003 Spirit of the Irish
2006 The Dubliners Collection (reassembling)

[edit] External links
discography
discography
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Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 30 Nov 06 - 07:25 AM

Very interesting, TomHamilton, thanks for that.

By the way, all, it's MacDonagh, not McDonagh, in the case of Thomas and Donagh.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 04:25 AM

For all who are interested: There is a good novel on the time of the 1913 strike, James Plunkett's 'Strumpet City' (first appeared in 1969).

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 06:52 AM

Strumpet City was recorded in 1980, it came out on DVD a couple of years ago.
Strumpet City, first broadcast in 1980, is a television production of epic proportions and has mark a turning point in Irish film. Hugh Leonard's adaptation of the immense novel by James Plunkett depicts in full colour the Dublin of the Irish workers, the strikes, riots and hardships of early twentieth century Ireland. This drama series stands as a reminder of those turbulent decades now fading from living memory

The popular dramatic drama based on James Plunkett's celebrated novel. This epic production is digitally re-mastered from the original tapes and offers the full seven episodes. One of RTÉ's greatest dramatic achievements.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 02 Dec 06 - 06:29 PM

There's also an excellent factual book, Lockout by Padraig Yeates.

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Dec 06 - 06:56 PM

A "dramatic drama"? You don't get many of them nowadays, do you?

Subject: RE: James Larkin by the Dubliners
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 08 Dec 06 - 02:33 PM

Alas, no. Just the mellow kind.