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Top 10 fiddle tunes please

GUEST 31 Dec 06 - 04:58 PM
Malcolm Douglas 31 Dec 06 - 05:12 PM
Cruiser 31 Dec 06 - 05:26 PM
pdq 31 Dec 06 - 05:33 PM
Cruiser 31 Dec 06 - 05:40 PM
Sorcha 31 Dec 06 - 05:59 PM
GUEST,Cruiser 31 Dec 06 - 06:15 PM
Sorcha 31 Dec 06 - 06:25 PM
Mooh 31 Dec 06 - 07:21 PM
Pauline L 01 Jan 07 - 03:07 AM
Nick 01 Jan 07 - 05:43 AM
GUEST 01 Jan 07 - 06:07 AM
Jack Campin 01 Jan 07 - 08:17 AM
Effsee 01 Jan 07 - 08:31 AM
GUEST,Jon 01 Jan 07 - 08:35 AM
Sorcha 01 Jan 07 - 08:48 AM
GUEST,Laz 01 Jan 07 - 08:53 AM
The Borchester Echo 01 Jan 07 - 01:28 PM
The Borchester Echo 01 Jan 07 - 01:30 PM
Sandy Mc Lean 01 Jan 07 - 01:51 PM
Cruiser 01 Jan 07 - 02:01 PM
Sorcha 01 Jan 07 - 02:11 PM
Murray MacLeod 01 Jan 07 - 02:44 PM
The Borchester Echo 01 Jan 07 - 03:08 PM
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Cruiser 01 Jan 07 - 03:36 PM
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Subject: Top 10 fiddle tunes help
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 04:58 PM

If you were to learn or recommend your top 10 favourite fiddle tunes what would they be please?
This will be very helpful to a young fiddle player who has recently asked me the very same question.
Thanks in advance


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 05:12 PM

To an extent that would depend on where in the world that young fiddle player lives, and what kind of fiddle music he or she is interested in playing. There are many styles and traditions, after all, so it would probably help to narrow it down a bit.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 05:26 PM

There is a book called Kidfiddle by Jerry Silverman (Mel Bay) that may still be in print. The cassette tape is out of print, unfortunately since it added greatly to learning.

There are 46 Easy Folk Songs any young fiddler will love to play. My favorites that give the student the chance to learn to play in all the basic keys are:

Cripple Creek
Old Joe Clark
Red River Valley
Filimiooriay
Rig A Jig Jig
Flop-Eared Mule
Old Rosin, The Beau
Crossing Over To Ireland
Home on the Range
Black-Eyed Susie
Crawdad
Bowling Green
Cumberland Gap
Fly Around My Blue-Eyed Girl
More Pretty Girls Than One
Ground Hog
My Home's Across The Somky Mountains
Sail Away, Ladies
Sally Ann
Red Apple Juice
Sally Goodin
Sourwood Mountain
The Wabash Cannonball
Salty Dog
Nine Hundred Miles
Arkansas Traveler
The Gal I Left Behind Me
Mountain Dew
The Irish Washerwoman
Garryowen
Turkey In the Straw (ol' Zip Coon)
Ragtime Annie

There are many more...you pick 10, I cannot.

This is a delightful little book any beginning fiddler, old or young, will treasure.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: pdq
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 05:33 PM

Add "Billy In The Low Ground" and "Red Haired Boy".


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 05:40 PM

pdq,

Excellent additions. There are just so many tunes, endless really, that are neat to play on the fiddle.

I forgot to add Cajun tunes so someone can add those.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 05:59 PM

IMO, both Billy and Red Haired are more for Intermediate at least. Billy IS a good tune to learn to play on the low strings
Red Haired Boy can be tough if you have trouble with the hornpipe rhythm. I can do long/short (hornpipe) but I can't do short/long (scotch snap)

Beginner:
Old Joe Clark
Cripple Creek
Boil/Bile Them Cabbage Down
Cluck Old Hen
Golden Slippers without ornaments
Angeline the Baker
Swallowtail Jig, no ornaments
Amazing Grace
Star of the County Down
When Johnny Comes Marching Home
Darling Nelly Gray

Intermediate:
Gal I Left Behind/Brighton Camp
Soldiers Joy
Arkansas Traveller
Harvest Home
Road to Lisdoonvarna with some ornaments
Chinese Breakdown
Over the Waterfall
Westphalia Waltz
Rakes of Mallow, or this could be Beginner
Jesse James

Now, my comments on Cruisers' List:
NOTE! This is just MY opinions on his suggestions!!!


Cripple Creek--OK, see above
Old Joe Clark--OK, see above
Red River Valley-Good Beginner
Filimiooriay--don't know it, no opinion
Rig A Jig Jig-Same
Flop-Eared Mule--Intermediate, the schottische rhythm can be diff.
Old Rosin, The Beau--I'd say Intermediate because of the 'snap'
Crossing Over To Ireland--don't know it
Home on the Range-Easy
Black-Eyed Susie--don't know it, at least under this title
Crawdad--Fairly easy
Bowling Green--don't know it
Cumberland Gap--Easy, good vocal for beginners
Fly Around My Blue-Eyed Girl--OK, but just keep it slow
More Pretty Girls Than One--don't know it
Ground Hog--I see this as more Talkin Blues, not a lot of melody
My Home's Across The Somky Mountains--don't know it
Sail Away, Ladies--Intermediate
Sally Ann--Depends on which one!! (smile)
Red Apple Juice-OK, as are most of the modal tunes
Sally Goodin--This one is VERY diff for ME...just can't get it
Sourwood Mountain--OK
The Wabash Cannonball--Easy, good for learning double stops
Salty Dog--Easy
Nine Hundred Miles--Is this same as 500 Miles? That is easy
Arkansas Traveler--Just watch the speed and ornaments
The Gal I Left Behind Me--see my list
Mountain Dew--Good for double stops, also, Do Lord
The Irish Washerwoman--Intermediate, also watch the speed
Garryowen--rhythm is a bugger all, IMO
Turkey In the Straw (ol' Zip Coon)--Watch the speed. Good for double   
    stops, wants to be fast
Ragtime Annie--The rag rhythm can be diff, B part is fairly easy

So many tunes, so little time. Another very good book is the Fiddlers Fake Book by David Brody. Gives optional ornaments, several settings, discography and it used to come with an optional CD, I think.

Not intending to offend anyone, but we all have different opinions on what is 'easy' or 'common/popular'. Cruiser is correct that location and style are big considerations.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Cruiser
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 06:15 PM

Again, Sorcha, excellent additions. You would enjoy those tunes you said you did not know. Also I cannot spell...that should have been:

My Home's Across the Smokey Mountains

Mr. Douglas gave the suggestion on style and location.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 06:25 PM

Oh, yes, Sorry Malcolm!! I also forgot Stephen Foster. Most all of his are pretty easy and very well known. Also, check out American Civil War songs.

I know a banjo player in Wyoming who knows hundreds of tunes. While on vacation he met a banjo player from Arkansas who also knew hundreds of tunes. They had 3 tunes in common.

Of course, the Wyoming one plays tenor banjo tuned like a guitar with a plectrum. The Arkansas one plays open back mountain banjo frailing style.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Mooh
Date: 31 Dec 06 - 07:21 PM

Anything from the Fiddler's Fake Book (Oak Publications) might be suitable.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Pauline L
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:07 AM

I have a more fundamental question? What the hell is meant by "fiddle tune"? I play fiddle, and I think that every tune I play (except Beethoven, etc.) could be considered a fiddle tune. When a banjo player asks me what fiddle tunes I like to play, I have no idea how to answer him. Is every tune in the Fiddler's Fake Book considered a fiddle tune?


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Nick
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:43 AM

Calliope House
Out on the Ocean
Galway Hornpipe
Floating to Skerry
Canyon Moonrise
Ashokan Farewell
Neil Gow's Lament for his second wife
Arran Boat
Road to Lisdoonvarna
Lanigan's Ball


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 06:07 AM

Many thanks this is excellent. I like the idea of beginner leading to intermediate etc. The fiddle player who asked the question is a competent classical violinist in the UK who wishes to delve into the world of folk fiddle. At the moment they are interested to learn and play in all styles and traditions.
Thanks again and please keep your ideas coming


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Jack Campin
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:17 AM

I have an ABC file of 40 basic Scottish tunes on my website - http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ . The idea is that they are all tunes you can guarantee somebody in any Scottish tune session will know.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Effsee
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:31 AM

I was asked to conduct a wee survey amongst the members of the regular session her in Thurso in the very far north of Scotland.
These are the two lists of choices I still have.

Fiddler one.
Barrowburn Reel
John Keith Lang
Jenny dang the weaver
The high road to Linton
The High Drive
Jig of slurs
Rory MacLeod
Calliope House
Donald MacLean's farewell to Oban
Father John MacMillan of Barra

Fiddler two.
Barrowburn Reel
Merry blacksmith
Spootiskerry
The lark in the morning
The ten penny bit
The Conundrum
The Banshee
The high road to Linton
The silver spear


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:35 AM

There are some suggestions for English and Irish session tunes in the uk.music.folk FAQ


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:48 AM

Uh, yes, Pauline. That's why it's called the Fiddler's Fake Book.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Laz
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 08:53 AM

I'm not a player but love to hear the 'Morpeth Rant' played on the fiddle. Goes well with 'Soldiers Joy'.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 01:28 PM

First 10

Glorishears
Rusty Gulley
Mr Isaac's Maggot
Highland Mary
Scan Tester's Country Stepdance
Walter Bulwer's No 2
Iron Legs
Cheshire/Shropshire Rounds
Sir Sidney Smith's March
Kempshott Hunt

Second 10

Michael Turner's Waltz
Maiden Lane
Princess Royal
Old Tom Of Oxford
Stoney Steps Hornpipe
Peacock Followed The Hen
Sweet Jenny Jones
Banks Of The Dee
Jon O'Grouts (Jon Brenner)
Horses Never Smile (Jackie Oates)

All English/All Trad (except where indicated)


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 01:30 PM

. . . and Bacca Pipes.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 01:51 PM

Malcolm gives sage advice because there are no top 10.
If your interest is Celtic/Scottish Cape Breton is where to look.
   You will find many tunes here:

http://www.cranfordpub.com/tunes/sample_tunes.htm


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 02:01 PM

Guest asked:

"If you were to learn or recommend your top 10 favourite fiddle tunes what would they be please?"

We all have favorites, correct?   She did not ask for the best, most requested, etc., she asked for recommendations of "your top 10 favorite..."   My favorites are different than someone else's so keep them flowing...

This is a valuable thread because I have learned names of many fiddle tunes I had never heard of.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 02:11 PM

Me too! I never heard of any of countess' list! Margarets Waltz is nice too. I have sheet music for it if no one does and wants it.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 02:44 PM

#1 = Ashokan Farewell

followed by hundreds of others in no particular order ...


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:08 PM

Sorcha, nearly all of them are in Pete Cooper's English Fiddle Tunes.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:14 PM

OK, Don't have that one.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:36 PM

Thank you for that link countess. Now if we just had midis or sound clips of each of those tunes, so we all could learn them.

A quick aside: I might be getting dyslexic in my old age, but I always "see" your name as countLess Richard, certainly not indicative of your often-demure, informative postings.

Late onset dyslexia may also explain why my fiddle notes do not always flow with the melodic contour of the written notation on the staffs/staves! On the other hand, it could be I just do not sight-read music as well as I thought I could.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:56 PM

I just finally had to stop buying tune books.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 03:57 PM

It's only £10.99 for notation of 99 tunes AND a CD. Pete Cooper has an online shop..


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 04:04 PM

MIDIs, including a few of the tunes mentioned. Reminds me too that I forgot to list Galopede.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:06 PM

I have this book/CD set published in 1995. Mr. Cooper gives a lot of background on the tunes and explains the meaning of reels, jigs, hornpipes and musical structure. Surprisingly, the Kesh Jig, my favorite Irish jig, is not included.   

I highly recommend this book. It cost me, about 10 years ago, $15.00 for the book and another $15.00 for the CDs as a set. Now it is $39.00, but still worth it.

Mel Bay's Complete Irish Fiddle Player

I have many of the Mel Bay fiddle books if anyone is interested in any recommendations. Great CDs, DVDs, and books are also available from Homespun Tapes.

Homespun Tapes Fiddle Music


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:22 PM

Pete Cooper published English Fiddle Tunes last year and it is not especially surprising that the Kesh Jig wasn't in it. This tune may well, however, be in his Irish Fiddle Solos or The Complete Irish Fiddle Player.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:30 PM

For Irish Session Books,

Sully's ones at least used to do the rounds a fair bit. Also, Mally's - saw one of those in a session a couple of weeks ago.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:36 PM

No ma'am, Kesh Jig is not in The Complete Irish Fiddle Player as I referenced above.

After listening to some of the tunes on the English Fiddle Tunes, I have to say I likely would not purchase it unless I could hear sound clips of all the tunes. I need both aural cues and notation to learn a tune, especially one with embellishments/ornamentations.

Out of the sound files you linked, I especially liked: Persian Ricardo, The Galopede, and the hornpipe.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 05:40 PM

Thanks Jon, more books available to purchase!


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 06:22 PM

I likely would not purchase it unless I could hear sound clips of all the tunes

What? All 99? They're all on the CD that comes with it, some in alternative keys. It only costs 11 squids FFS. How mean can you get? The bloke's a working musician, not a charity.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 06:29 PM

Persian Ricardo and Galopede are the same tune.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Tootler
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 06:43 PM

How about

Winster Gallop
Jamie Allen
Salmon Tails
And He Was a Bonny Lad
Davy, Davy Knick Knack
Hesleyside Reel
Oyster Girl
93 Not Out
Proudlock's Hornpipe
Redesdale Hornpipe

All popular Northumbrian Session tunes.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 07:26 PM

Check out the following web site for some very good fiddle tunes:

http://www.blackflute.com/music/tunes.html

Lots of good stuff to try.

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 09:10 PM

Thank you Cap't Bob, an excellent site.

Wild Dismay Tunes


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 09:58 PM

This one was mentioned in an early post. A beautiful slow lament from Scotland's greatest composer. The mp3 and sheet music are free.

http://www.cranfordpub.com/tunes/Scottish/LamentNielGow2nd.htm


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 01 Jan 07 - 10:11 PM

That is a beautiful lament. Thanks Guest.

Here is a link to other music on that site:

Some Great Tunes and MP3s


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Pauline L
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 01:40 AM

Sorcha, would you please elaborate on your comment about the definition of "fiddle tune"? Can you give me an example of something folky that is not a fiddle tune?


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 10:33 AM

Ah, Pauline, NOW I think I understand what you mean. I 'suppose' that a 'fiddle tune' means a dance tune. I could be all wet here but in a Fiddle Contest a waltz, hoedown and tune of choice which is neither must be played.

The choice can be a polka, blues, aire, etc. And don't ask ME what a 'hoedown' is.....I've tried for years to get someone to define it for me including contest judges. I gather that a hornpipe is not hoedown but a jig is.

So, in that light, Home on the Range isn't a fiddle tune. Neither is the tune to Star Spangled Banner (Ancreon). I have found though, that a lot of people refer to a fiddle tune as any tune/song that the fiddle can lead on, which leaves it wide open.

And in light of a fiddle tune being a dance or danceable tune, yes, all the tunes in the Fake Book/Oak by Brody are fiddle tunes. So are the ones in Coles 1000 Fiddle Tunes. A 'country' fake book on the other hand would be mostly tunes/songs that are NOT 'fiddle tunes'.

Over to Malcolm.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Cruiser
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 11:12 AM

Hey ladies, fiddle is simply folk violin, a style of playing. A fiddle is a violin and a violin is a fiddle. Therefore, you can play concertos on a fiddle or a fiddler can play a hoedown on a violin.

Furthermore, any tune played on a fiddle or violin is a fiddle tune in the strictest definition. I remember Isaac Pearlman calling his violin a fiddle during an interview.

Violinists are often stuffy and fiddlers ain't. The instrument is the same, but the hands of the fiddler, his bowing patterns, and adherence to structure and musical notation or not, changes the style from a violin piece to a fiddle tune.

Mark O'Connor epitomizes a violinist/fiddler that is superb in both violinistic worlds.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Scoville
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 11:27 AM

What I can play right now:
Amelia (Bob McQuillen) D
Where the White Lilies Grow D
Cora Dye G
Booth Shot Lincoln A
Ducks on the Pond A
Santa Ana's Retreat A/Am
Creek Nation C
West Fork Gals D
Red Hills Polka D
Riding on a Load of Hay Em


To what I aspire:
Salt River Am
Natchez Under the Hill A
Dixie we played this in C
Billy in the Low Ground C
Elzic's Farewell Am
Shag Poke (from Dwight Lamb) G
Chincopin Hunting (from Art Stamper) G?
Indian Ate a Woodchuck (crappy title, great tune) D?
Echoes of the Ozarks (from Lee Stoneking) D
Cherokee Shuffle A


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: open mike
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 12:20 PM

i consider a hoe down to be a tune in 2/4 or 4/4 time...more like a reel


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 01:48 PM

From m-w.com:

hoedown
One entry found for hoedown.


Main Entry: hoe·down
Pronunciation: -"daun
Function: noun
1 : SQUARE DANCE
2 : a gathering featuring hoedowns

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So, a hoedown is a fiddle tune appropriate for a square dance.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 02 Jan 07 - 04:11 PM

The Fiddler's Fakebook mentioned above is probably the most commonly seen collection in my area. It includes probably most of the most common tunes people have cited. It also includes some information on performers/performances for most tunes. My observation is that it contains "performance arrangements," i.e. the way the tunes are played for "listening audiences." (i.e. the selection is a bit "bluegrassy."

A collection I've found more "likeable" is the Portland Collection. This nice little book is produced by the Contra
Dance folk in Portland Oregon, and includes danceable tune selections and arrangements. I've not gotten around to ordering the new edition(s) with the CD that's now available, but those who've got it indicate that the CD is good. It appears in Amazon listings so it would be presumed that it could be ordered through mudcat for the kickback to the 'cat.

While any tune of interest to a beginning player can probably be found somewhere on the web, most will probably want at least one or two "collections" just to cut down on the time wasted searching them out. (Look less, play more.)

Most "folk collections," including "fiddle collections," tend to be quite repetitious, including very similar lists of "best tunes" without adding much to the repertoire. The above two, so far as I've seen, include the best basic sets of tunes in forms actually useful to most beginners - at least until they settle on a "style" they like and are ready to look at more narrowly defined collections.

But everything is just an opinion.

John


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Kathleen
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:11 PM

The Blarney Pilgrim (jig)
Banish Misfortune (jig)
Dan Ryan's (Polka)
Off To Califormia (schottishe)
The Banshee (reel)
Ragtime Annie (reel)
Bill Cheatham (reel)
Festival Waltz
Midnight On The Water (waltz)
Morpeth's Rant (reel)
Cold Frosty Morning (reel)
The Wizard's Walk (reel)
Neil Gows Lament for his 2nd Wife
The Growling Old Man & Grumbling Old Woman (reel)
La Bistrangue (French Can. reel)
St. Annes Reel
Rory O'Moore (jig)
Fisher's Hornpipe
Colored Aristocracy (cakewalk/reel)
East Tennessee Blues
Florida Blues
Turkey IN The Straw
Arkansas Traveler
Temperence Reel (teetotalers)
Petronella (reel)
Chorus Jig (its a reel)
Road to Boston


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Beer
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:15 PM

Big John McNeil
Old Man an Old Woman


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Scoville
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:21 PM

Okay, I've gotten so many different reports on "Off to California": GUEST Kathleen above says it's a schottische. Somebody else told me it was a polka. I was told that an alternate title is "Whiskey Hornpipe" and have always played it as a hornpipe on both fiddle and Appalachian dulcimer (on which it's pretty easy to tell the difference among the three since they use different strums).

What the Hell is it?


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: skarpi
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:29 PM

Hallo I dont play fiddle but

Calliope House

Ashokan Farewell

Road to Lisdoonvarna

Moudbawn chapel

King of the fairys

Bonde og byfolk ( Norway Hardanger fiddle tune )

all the best Skarpi Iceland.

P.s in my band we use both fiddle and Hardanger fiddle


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: John Hardly
Date: 27 Feb 07 - 03:39 PM

In Northern Indiana ten fiddle tunes that would stand you in good stead...

1. Arkansas Traveler
2. Red-Haired Boy
3. Blackberry Blossom
4. St Anne's Reel
5. Jaybird
6. Sandy Boys
7. Old Joe Clark
8. Temperance Reel
9. Rock The Cradle, Joe
10. Over The Waterfall

She left Ireland and now works for NASA at launch time. She's the star of counting down.

There it floated in the bay, covered with writing. I couldn't make out a single word. Then a little boat paddled by bearing this sign: "Read Here -- Bouy".


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Bill Cheatam
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 03:26 AM

The Real List..........Spokane, WA

Sally Johnson
Say Old Man
Dusty Miller
Sally Goodin
Tom and Jerry
Wednesday Night Waltz
Purple Velvet Waltz
I Don't Love Nobody
Cottonpatch Rag
Beaumont Rag


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: wilco
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 09:40 AM

Top ten in my east tennessee fiddle jams and music store:
Angeline the baker, arkansas traveler, soldiers' joy, lost indian, over the waterfall, st. anne's real, blackberry blossum, bonaparte's retreat, forked derr, billy in the lowground, leather britches, mississipii sawyer, red haired boy, ragtime annie, sail away ladies, whiskey before breakfast.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: open mike
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:19 AM

Ashokan Farewell
St. Anne's Reel
Soldier's Joy
Whiskey Before Breakfast
Red Haired Boy (Little Beggar Man)
Liberty
Maggie Brown's Favorite Jig
Caledonian Laddie Hornpipe
Dance (King?) of the Fairies
Rosetree

o.k. i guess that is 10 so i have to stop now..


But I might add .....

Round the Horn
Smash the Windows
Swinging on a Gate
Ground Hog
Arkansas Traveller
Turkey in the Straw
Golden Slippers
Star of the County Down--with lyrics sung
Midnight on the Water (Waltz)
8th of January (in 1814 we took a little trip..Colonel Jackson...MS)
Tennessee Waltz
Beaumont Rag
ROAD to California...(diff. from Off to CA)


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Jim Lad
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 11:24 AM

My wife still stops me dead on my tracks when she plays "The Burning of the Piper's Hut". Hector the Hero & Roisin Dubh are another couple of favourites.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: greg stephens
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 12:22 PM

The original enquirer was from England, so it should be pointed out that the Fiddler's Fake Book, fabulous collection that it is, is pretty useless as regards English tunes. And its comments on the subject of English fiddle music are, to say the least, ill-informed. But, having said that, iot's a must-have collection.
The traditional English tunes that everybody, but everybody, knows (in England, that is) are Winster Gallop(very easy) and Soldier's Joy (not so easy).


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:24 PM

My favourite is St. Annes reel. Anyone know of it's origins? Scottish, Irish?


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Jack Campin
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:41 PM

The two places it seems to be most played are Quebec and Shetland. Since Catholic saints don't get a great deal of notice in Shetland culture it seems a good bet it's French-Canadian.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,dax
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:43 PM

French-Canadian


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,dax
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:45 PM

Cross post there Jack. It was made popular in the English speaking world by Don Messer.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Scoville at Dad's
Date: 16 Apr 07 - 08:49 PM

I've always seen St. Anne's attributed to Canada. Not that that means I'm right, only that I've known it my entire life and never seen it ascribed to any other country.



A few more:

1. Eight Days in Georgia [C]
2. Ballydesmond Polka [Am]
3. Where the White Lilies Grow [D, two-step]
4. Princess Royal [the version I know is in G major]
5. Seneca Square Dance [G, known by several other titles]
6. Tennessee Wagoner [C]
7. Pa Janvier [Dm, a morose Cajun waltz]
8. Red Hills Polka [D, an Illinois tune as far as I know]
9. Spotted Pony [D]
10. Kingdom Coming [aka Year of Jubilo, we also played this in C to go with Dixie]


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: open mike
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 01:18 AM

"St. Anne's Reel is a French-Canadian fiddle tune that has been very popular over the years."--this is a quote from a web page...so it
MUST be true..actually that is what i have always heard, too.

another great book source for tunes is O'Niel's 1,000 fiddle tunes
book.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Guy Wolff
Date: 17 Apr 07 - 06:38 PM

As a banjo player I have found these some of my faverites to play along with a good fiddler.They all have a lot of depth .Some I learned in North Carolina some in New England and some in the north of England .. all the best ,Guy

Bill Cheatum
Staton Island
Red Haired Boy
Sally Anne
Solger's Joy
Old French
Rickets Hornpipe
Jefferson and Liberty
Cluck Old Hen
Jamie Allen
Sony Brogan


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: Mike Miller
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 02:39 AM

Belfast Hornpipe

The Downfall of Paris

Georgia Camp Meeting

Chicken Reel

The Rakes of Kildare

Orange Blossom Special (Still smokin' after all these years)

Anything Johnnie Gimbel played, anything at all.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST, donald
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 10:30 AM

Bonnie Kate
Jenny's Chickens
Bonnie Mulligan
Mason's Apron
Dionne
Mouth of the Tobique
Rakes Of Kildare
Calliope House
Canyon Moonrise
Neil Gow second wife
Cooley's
Drowsy Maggie

ok that's a dozen, but it's 10 in base twelve!


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: MissouriMud
Date: 18 Apr 07 - 12:59 PM

I would have to qualify my answer by saying that first it will be country specific(US in my case)- and possibly even region specific (midwest/ozarkian); and second it attempts to include a few tunes from each of the three primary fiddle tune keys - D, A and G. We dont do much fiddle work in the key of C at the basic level here. Finally I am making the assumption that you are looking for tunes to teach a beginning fiddler or at least someone new to the genre.   These are all tunes that any experienced fiddler in these parts would have to know (and would probably be sick and tired of).

With that in mind, our little school here teaches a number of tunes in its lower level fiddle classes - among which the most repeated seem to be, albeit in no particular order other than key:

Key of D
Fly Around My Pretty Little Miss (Hop High Ladies, Susannah Girl etc)
Angeline the Baker (or Angelina Baker)
Eighth of January (Battle of New Orleans)
Robinson County
Soldiers Joy

Key of G
Chase the Banshee (we have Banshees in Missouri)
Miss McLeod's Reel (Did you ever see the Devil Uncle Joe?)
Red Wing
Seneca Square Dance
Going Down To Cairo (Good Bye Liza Jane)

Key of A
Old Joe Clark
Cripple Creek
Horse and Buggy
Greasy Coat (got to have some of the modal tunes in there)
Cluck Old Hen (ditto)

That's 15 not 10. Those arent my necessarily personal favorites and I am not a fiddle player, but they seem to be the ones that are most used for basic teaching here so I assume they are good for that purpose.   If we were to have our young fiddlers put together a program for a 3 hour square/contra dance, most if not all of those tunes would be on the list. We probably teach simple versions of some of these tunes - so I am assuming these are tunes which either have a simple base melody to start with or seem to permit simplification of a more complicated base melody without losing too much. Obviously good players play all of these tunes in a manner that would be over the head of a learner.

I have not included any waltzes - while we play them and teach them here, I don't treat them as being "fiddle tunes" as we normally use that term here, but some good ones have been mentioned in the thread above. Of course if you're really dealing with total beginners, the Old Town School in Chicago teaches everyone Go Tell Auint Rhodie the first day, but I dont consider that a fiddle tune either.


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,Lillian
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 01:16 AM

I'm just a beginner and I love these songs
and all you fiddlers out there!

Rakes of Mallow
Nonesuch
Colonel John Irwin
Lucy Farr's Barn Dance
La Valse Des Jonglements
Pride of Petravore
Si Beag Si Mohr
Whiskey Before Breakfast
St Anne's Reel
Ash Grove


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Subject: RE: Top 10 fiddle tunes please
From: GUEST,fiddler
Date: 16 Aug 07 - 07:05 AM

they are TUNES not songs!


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