bank of america ...

Subject: bank of america ...
From: tarheel
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:31 PM

your thoughts on the Bank of America now issueing credit cards to illegals,non ss card holders,crooks,bastards,non-working lazy bums...
maybe should be re-named...Bank of UN-AMERICAN ACTIVITIES!

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: tarheel
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:34 PM

what will really piss you off is...if any of you remember when you first got married and wanting to have a family and tried to get credit!
well,i remember then that the rule was "bad credit was worse than no credit at all"!
you could not get a credit card of any kind then unless you had lots of money,had an almost perfect credit record,and of course a GOOD JOB!
now...if you are illegal,busted,a crook, no credit at all or the worst credit record on record...it's ok!
what a CrocK!
geezzzzzzz,my AMERICA, has surely changed to be someone elses AMERICA!!!
apparently, it'sTo Hell with the true PATRIOTIC Americans, and bring on the illegals,the low life,the crooks,murders' or anything not legal...be it person or attitude!
We are surely being overtaken without a single shot being fired!!!
Wake up AMERICA..it's happening right under our noses!

(and PRESIDENT BUSH...you are not helping the situation at all,anymore!)
Tar...

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:35 PM

Hmmm ... now maybe the homeless now have a chance of opening a Bank Account, getting a credit card ... first step in getting themselves back into the mainstream.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Alba
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:44 PM

Yip the times they are a changin!

The New Colossus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Emma Lazarus

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Rapparee
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 07:46 PM

Down, down, below the line!

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:16 PM

ROCK LOBSTER !!

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:29 PM

What is all this nonsense about?
Anyone with a credit rating can get a credit card.
Credit cards are valid across international boundaries.

Someone must be listening to that air-head, Lou Dobbs.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 08:40 PM

Aha Q you watched Lou Dobbs tonite!

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 09:27 PM

Ah gee, Bill, I exposed myself!

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 09:48 PM

So, Tar...a rich European should be denied a BoA credit card? How about a middle-class Japanese businessman? Ah...its the poor Mexicans, eh? I thought better of you.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: artbrooks
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:06 PM

And, from your original post:

illegals...maybe
non ss card holders...BoA's basic point
crooks...other than maybe being in the US illegally, what would be the basis for saying this?
bastards...I'd bet the majority have parents who are married - to each other.
non-working lazy bums...not likely. Since most illegals are paid below minimum, and are exploited by their employers, shopowners, etc., they have to work much harder than many other people just to survive. And they send money home to boot.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:17 PM

illegals can work in the U.S. ... buy a hamburger at McDonalds, rent an apartment, shop at WalMart, shop at the Piggly Wiggly ... why can't they open a bank account and a get a credit card.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:22 PM

I've never liked BofA. My fondest wish for them is that they bankrupt on the defaults of 'illegal' aliens, and other high risk borrowers. But then, we taxpayers would have to bail them out, so we're the losers in the long run.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:26 PM

Many (a high percentage) illegal immigrants pay taxes ... ok, via bogus Social Security numbers ... but they are paying taxes ... hell they pay sales tax on goods purchased.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:38 PM

Many years back when doing consulting work in Toronto, I was installing an IT Application for a very large Canadian chicken processor. One afternoon Canadian Immigration raided the plant and apprehended the individual they were looking for. It happened to be a middle aged Portugese illegal immigrant.

Apparently she had worked there for about 8 years, ripping guts out of chickens for minimum wage. Never missed a day of work. She was paying taxes via a bogus Social Security Number. Did anyone really lose with her working there? No, the government got her taxes. The company profited from her labour. Hell, a bank certainly would not lose with her having an account and a credit card.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: GUEST,~~oO~~
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:42 PM

The problem is the criminal illegals don't need any I.D. to get credit cards, while CITIZENS have to show I.D. The banks are just funneling money into the ionosphere--issuing credit that won't ever be repaid just to break the bank. The plugs are being pulled on the American economy, sinking it, and this is one way to throw more paper dollars out the window. Give them to 100 Juan Garcia's a day, 200 a day if you can. The global bankers need to break the U.S. dollar in order to usher in the AmeroDollar (combined US/Canadian dollar + Mex peso).

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 13 Feb 07 - 10:49 PM

If your conspiracy theory holds true ~~~oO~~~~, we're f%@ked regardless.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: michaelr
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 12:40 AM

Three of my various credit cards have, over the course of the last five years, miraculously become BofA cards. I am not happy about it.

But I have no complaints about immigrants. That's because I am one myself.

Cheers,
Michael

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 10:36 AM

Michaelr, I have no complaints about immigrants, per se; only about immigrants who come here illegally, or overstay their visas. I believe the vast majority of folks wishing for better enforcement of immigration laws feel as I do.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 11:16 AM

No miracle, michaelr. Bank of America is buying a lot of other banks and taking over their operations. Must be making a lot of money to be able to do that.

And anybody can get one of those cards. You don't have to be an illegal alien. All you have to do is pay the exorbitant fees. You don't like it, don't patronise Bank of America. If you have one of their cards, get a card with another big bank and transfer your balance. Or pay it off and be done with it.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 12:14 PM

I can appreciate your views about an immigrant entering the country illegally ... but what is the issue regarding them having a Bank of America credit card?

There are more U.S. citizens who will default on the credit card balance than the number of illegal immigrants who will.

If it's security ... I'm sure the bad guys are going about their bad deeds setting up an ambush within the system ... just like they have been doing all along, with bogus social security numbers, or even with valid Social Security Numbers.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: number 6
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 12:23 PM

Most illegal immigrants want to stay and eventually become citizens. I bet my bippy most will use their credit responsibly as this (they feel) could be a key factor in them obtaining citizenship.

biLL

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 01:57 PM

Most immigrants to America before the 1920s didn't have to go through hoops. All they needed was the fare. They were held only long enough to check them for diseases.

The illegals from Latin America and elsewhere are comparable to the Irish, Jewish and Italian immigrants of the past.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 02:05 PM

Of course, before the 1920,s we didn't have too many people. Now it's standing room only.

          As far as illegals getting credit cards, I hope they all run up big bills, get deported, and leave the B-of-A holding the bag.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: beardedbruce
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 02:12 PM

Did you note the interest rate?



23%


So it is ok to rip off illegals, by usary?

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 02:54 PM

I've got one that charges 28.65%. How'd they get such a good deal?

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 03:39 PM

How's your credit rating? Have you kept up with your payments or have you been late a couple of times? Have you tried to get another card with a lower rate? Why are you staying with a company that gives you such a bad rate?

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 04:37 PM

Have you checked who banks with Bank of America in Miami?

Just a rumour of course, but they are said not to be easily refused....

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Peace
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 04:46 PM

Isn't the US a capitalist society? Doesn't the country encourage free enterprise? What's the problem?

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 04:47 PM

"Why are you staying with a company that gives you such a bad rate?"

         I got it years ago, when whoever was running Ronald Reagan was trying to destroy America, and just never cancelled.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 05:25 PM

You might want to do something about that. It's costing you a lot of money if you're carrying any sort of balance.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 06:18 PM

Bank of America has some 400 cards worldwide. Several are Visa. Some are American Express. Some are for individuals, some are for businesses. Interest varies according to type of card.

Like Mastercard, Visa, etc. etc., citizens of many countries may hold them.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: GUEST,Slick Willie
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 06:21 PM

You boys stop your quibbling there. I can solve all your credit high interest rate issues. We can offer you credit on terms you can't deny. I've just reopened an old bank or let's an old friend has come back. Yes in your home town called Madison Guaranty. So come on downtown to your local branch. Tell them Slick Willie sent ya and we will certainly work something out or you.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 07:04 PM

"You might want to do something about that. It's costing you a lot of money if you're carrying any sort of balance"

       I only use it once in a while, and never carry a balance. I keep it as a reminder of why I don't like supply-side economics and all the problems it brought.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 07:09 PM

No real harm then, eh? Agree with you on the supply-side thing.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Feb 07 - 07:22 PM

Thanks, Willie, yer a good ole boy! You might get a little competition from the Left Bank of Mississippi, however, and their White Trash Mutual Funds.

HSBC (Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, since 1865) increasingly is getting business here in western Canada. Over 170 offices in Canada, 9500 in 76 countries. Their star, as a leading Chinese bank, is in the ascendant. Mutual funds and investment certificates, based on investment in China, are good value.
They offer Mastercard.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: mack/misophist
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 11:43 AM

Why make a fuss about the name? After all, when A P Gianinni started it, it was the Bank of Italy.

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Donuel
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 12:37 PM

I heard the Bank of America spokesman actually say "We won't make any money on this."





I guess the operant words are "any money"

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Deckman
Date: 15 Feb 07 - 04:05 PM

This new marketing plan by bank of america suprises me NOT at all. For years, bank of america, here in Washington State, was "Sea-First" bank. They were very well known for extreme efforts to deny union membership to their employees and for squeezing EVERY last penny possible from their customers. I know this first hand as I had to help my late Father manage his accounts with them for several years before he died.

This bank explemplifys the adage" "There Is No Morality In Money!" Bob

Subject: RE: bank of america ...
From: Riginslinger
Date: 16 Feb 07 - 10:20 AM

Numbers USA is e-mailing people, trying to get them to close their accounts with Bank of America.