BS: How shall we use the first time machine

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Soldier boy
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 06:54 PM

However, if it could work I would only ask for the one journey.
That would be to meet GOD and praise him for creating such a wonderful planet and then ask him why he put such warring, mixed-up, suicidal, fault-ridden beings in charge of it.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Soldier boy
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 06:42 PM

There have been too many instances of tweeking and changing the true historical calendar over the eons for religious and political reasons so you would never be able to set the dials correctly to any specific time.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Peace
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 06:02 PM

Every story has two sides. I have always liked that song by Dylan because we all have times we could sing it. And usually so could the 'other' person we're singing it to/for/about.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Peace
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 02:09 PM

"Positively 4th Street" by Bob Dylan

You got a lotta nerve
To say you are my friend
When I was down
You just stood there grinning

You got a lotta nerve
To say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on
The side that's winning

You say I let you down
You know it's not like that
If you're so hurt
Why then don't you show it

You say you lost your faith
But that's not where it's at
You had no faith to lose
And you know it

I know the reason
That you talk behind my back
I used to be among the crowd
You're in with

Do you take me for such a fool
To think I'd make contact
With the one who tries to hide
What he don't know to begin with

You see me on the street
You always act surprised
You say, "How are you?" "Good luck"
But you don't mean it

When you know as well as me
You'd rather see me paralyzed
Why don't you just come out once
And scream it

No, I do not feel that good
When I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief
Perhaps I'd rob them

And now I know you're dissatisfied
With your position and your place
Don't you understand
It's not my problem

I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment
I could be you

Yes, I wish that for just one time
You could stand inside my shoes
You'd know what a drag it is
To see you

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: rock chick
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 07:54 AM

I would go back to a small pub in a beautiful place and go through everything again, I would not change that bit of time for anything, in fact I would stop time for that moment.

rc

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,rock chick
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 07:43 AM

Jeri

It could have been the gardener, ruining my tree, and digging up my beautiful plant, albeit by mistake, or the person who upset my daughter the other night, why must it be read as being about me! Some people are just so short sighted. It doesn't necessarily look the way its reads! Don't jump to conclusions, that's just too easy and what most people tend to do. There is no escape! ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 06:58 AM

It looks like stalking, Rock Chick. Whatever HE did, he's not following you around in the threads years after whatever it was happened, desperately (3 times?! 5 days worth?!) trying to hurt you. The more you do this, the more of a chance people might lose sympathy for you.

I'd hope if you had a time machine, you could go back and help yourself move on with your life.

No, I don't mind if this is deleted, especially if this thread is now nothing more than a staging area for a vendetta.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: rock chick
Date: 02 Apr 07 - 05:40 AM

What's this ganging up and removing threads, 3rd time now, maybe I should go back in time and put it up again, or maybe Joe or one of his clones already has the time machine, hence threads being written then vanishing!!

I may go back in time or to the future and write it again, or maybe I have already written it!! What ever I would still ensure the B...... got what he deserved one way or another by going back in time or going to the furutre......there would be no escape!

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: rock chick
Date: 01 Apr 07 - 05:15 AM

How would I use it, to give peace where peace is needed, to stop cruelty where it is used against humanity, to make people kinder to one and other and to abolish all the poor counties by ensuring food and water was shared, but we don't need a time machine for that just, humanity and the right people in the right places. We are all equal in society, race or colour, status, material things should not matter, although they do with a lot of people.

rc

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Mar 07 - 03:11 PM

Question:

When does the train leave to Morrow?

Answer:

The train to Morrow left yesterday!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 24 Mar 07 - 07:37 AM

With apologies to Douglas Adams.... The only thing more complicated than building a time machine is figuring out how to use it, and the only thing more complicated than that is the grammar associated with it...

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,rock chick
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 10:16 AM

Are we talking about inventing a time machine today, ops sorry maybe we did it yesterday, or it could be a thought for the future....Oh is is too complicated to take in....Now was I thinking it too complicated yesterday or is it really today, no maybe I will think about it tomorrow!!!!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Grimmy
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 08:31 AM

There is/was/will be some kind of time machine scrapyard somewhere. Good for spares ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,The black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 23 Mar 07 - 08:26 AM

I think I'd want to use it to find the LAST time machine and find out why there were no later ones.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 05:47 PM

Anyone read a time travel novel called 'Bones of the Earth' (pub. 2002) by Michael Swanwick? He takes every time travel paradox you've ever thought (and quite a few you haven't) and ties them in knots and juggles with them. I love the opening scene in which a mysterious stranger turns up at a paleontology lab. and presents the paleontologist protagonist with the head of a freshly killed Stegosaurus ...

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Grimmy
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 02:12 PM

I foresee time-machine traffic jams. With bottlenecks during the 17th century. Signs saying "Give way to traffic merging from the French Revolution". Time machine traffic cops lying in wait during the Jurassic period. Cones everywhere and every time.

And we'll certainly need some kind of breakdown service -

"Yes sir, what appears to be the trouble?"
"Uh huh, and where are you exactly, sir?"
"Uh huh, and WHEN ARE YOU?"
"Thank you, sir, one of our mechanics will be with you 5 minutes ago"

Man, I can't wait.....

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: rock chick
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 01:52 PM

"Notice how people choose a very personal use for the time machine rather than a use that would benefit all mankind, not that good intentions are any guarantee to help all mankind.
The road to hell is paved with the best intentions"
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Humans will be humans, well most of the time! other times well we could use a four letter word for some, but most humans have some form of kindness to others, it just needs digging deep, very deep in some cases, but we all have some form of self preservation, after all that's how our species has survived. So your little comment above should not be aimed at anyone, but their replies taken as part of being a member of the human race, there again maybe is wasn't 'aimed'

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 01:30 PM

I have an inspired idea: Maybe a Mudcatter could conceive of and build a 'fast forward' machine. With it we could see how our current activities and conditions play out in real time. Then we could come back and change the impetus.

Brilliant, what?

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Grimmy
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 01:00 PM

If you happen to be travelling back in time and you meet somebody coming the other way, then it's probably best to avoid eye contact.

And DON'T SIT WITH YOUR ELBOW STICKING OUT OF THE WINDOW! Trust me on this one.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 12:51 PM

Beats me how you even could visualize a 4-dimensional cube after months of focusing on the idea, Donuel.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 12:44 PM

A 3D cube is sensed immediately with only its interior in question.

It took me countless months to visualize a hyper cube of 4 dimensions.

I can concieve of a hyper holographic universe but I can not see it.

Here is an interesting title 'The reference beam of the Universe'

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM

If there are an infinite number of parallel Universes and timelines all existing simultaneously (as some have theorized), then it wouldn't matter where you went and what you did...except to those who were in that particular Universe and timeline, of course.

It is linear thinking that gets people asking these kind of questions. What if existence is not really linear at all, but holographic?

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 12:11 PM

1) Go back hundreds of years and look for Anon
2) Go back to 7th July 1977 and cause "me" to fail my driving test (it was the start of putting on weight, as I went everywhere on the bike before that).
3) Go back to 27th February 1973 (meeting Nessie) and do it all again

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:42 AM

I think Dr. Who tried to pose the various ethics of time travel.

It is such an important question that many new vehicles for this theme will be created by the mind of humans for as long as we can think.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:33 AM

Perhaps a 4 dimensional lifeform with a four lobed brain would find these questions as elemental as our # dimensional kindergarden games, but questions that 11 dimensional conundrums pose, would make their brain hurt.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Scrump
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:31 AM

Well, if the object is to do something to benefit mankind, we could do these things:

- go back in time and slip a contraceptive pill into Mrs Hitler's tea (or do likewise for your dictator of choice)

- go back in time and destroy the blueprints for the internal combustion engine, thereby saving the world from global warming

- go back in time and get loads of dosh as mentioned for mersonal use in posts above, but bring it back to the present and use it for charitable works to improve the lot of poor people worldwide

- go back in time and persuade everybody that you are their god, and that your dearest wish is that they will never start fights on your behalf, and that world peace is a central tenet of your/their religion.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Grimmy
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 11:20 AM

It's a tricky one, Donuel. If we went back and changed things then the (unintended) results could be catastrophic.

However, if we went forward and 'did some good', then maybe that wouldn't be so bad - or would it?

My head hurts.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 10:52 AM

I get it...


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Notice how people choose a very personal use for the time machine rather than a use that would benefit all mankind, not that good intentions are any guarantee to help all mankind.
The road to hell is paved with the best intentions.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Scrump
Date: 22 Mar 07 - 08:47 AM

Like a twist on the genie's 3 wishes, how should we use the first time machine.

Here's the rub, some theorize that the time machine can never go to a time before its creation. Others say that it may be possible to go back father than first thought.
So lets assume that going backwards will work as well as going forwards but it can only be used 3 times.

I am blocked and can not come up with 3 meaningful or even funny missions.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: rock chick
Date: 21 Mar 07 - 11:53 AM

Mmm I would go back and knowing all the s... that was coming up I would change it for a different outcome, not necessarily a better outcome but one that would stop any further s... happening in the future, and as for going forward... I would hope my previous actions would stop anyone else suffering. But hey that's in an ideal world, and well that just does not exist in any shape or form.

rc

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 05:24 PM

Like a twist on the genie's 3 wishes, how should we use the first time machine.

Here's the rub, some theorize that the time machine can never go to a time before its creation. Others say that it may be possible to go back father than first thought.
So lets assume that going backwards will work as well as going forwards but it can only be used 3 times.

I am blocked and can not come up with 3 meaningful or even funny missions.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 11:35 AM

please delete this thread

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Scrump
Date: 20 Mar 07 - 10:13 AM

I'd go back in time to before when this thread was started, and then start it myself, just to wind up Donuel :-)

Then I'd probably go back to the 1960s and buy up the entire stock of Dobell's records in Charing Cross Road, London, England, and then come back to the present time and flog them all on ebay, and live happily ever after on the proceeds :-)

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 09:13 PM

I'd like to be bombadier under Captain Jimmy Stewart and guide our B-24 over Duseldorf to the exact spot where Prescott Bush* was inspecting his German ammunition factory...and release the bombs.

*W's Grandfather.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: The Walrus
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 09:02 PM

"...Hey W, what if I prevented the Big Bang?..."

Now that's the ULTIMATE Grandfather paradox !

W

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Grimmy
Date: 19 Mar 07 - 10:44 AM

"GUEST, Grimmy

"...I'd go back to 1 second before the Big Bang - what a show!..."

If you did that, it's possible that you would cause the Big Bang.!

W"


Hey W, what if I prevented the Big Bang?

(I'm trying to get my head round the implications of that one)

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Donuel
Date: 18 Mar 07 - 08:04 PM

Bill D, IT tastes like chicken with a whisper of fish.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 18 Mar 07 - 06:48 AM

Three things that I would like to do (I'm assuming here that having arrived in a certain year I can stay for a couple of years and travel about a bit). I would like to:

- See the countryside of my native part of Eastern England, just before it was enclosed (early 19th century). Perhaps I might meet the poet John Clare as a child/teenager. He was to go on to record the effects of enclosure on the countryside around his native village of Helpston.

- Go on a botanical ramble (c. 1820s to 1850s) with some of the Working Class botanists of South Lancashire. I would particularly like to meet Richard Buxton, a botanist and impoverished shoemaker from the Ancoats district of Manchester.

- Go on a folk song collecting expedition with one of the great Edwardian collectors. I suppose if I had to choose it would be with Cecil Sharp in Somerset. But, oh to be with Vaughan Williams and to meet and hear sing Henry Burstow, Charles Potipher, Harriet Verral, James Carter etc., etc., etc.!

It's not going to happen - but thanks, Donuel for giving me the opportunity to dream!

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Becca72
Date: 17 Mar 07 - 11:27 AM

I'd teach the Eloi how to fight back...

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Bill D
Date: 17 Mar 07 - 11:19 AM

"eat a few", huh? Maybe you could write a cookbook.

"build a bonfire in a pit 80X100....spit dinosaur on trunk of tree....roast for 3.5 days...."

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 17 Mar 07 - 11:08 AM

I would go back to dinosaur times, and eat a few, and see waht they taste like.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: GUEST,Seiri Omaar
Date: 17 Mar 07 - 09:58 AM

I'd like to go back a few hundred years and listen to some musicians in the highlands of Scotland. Oh, the music!

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Mooh
Date: 17 Mar 07 - 09:22 AM

Sure could solve crimes, win lotteries, and for me, take my foot out of my mouth before the fact.

Peace, Mooh.

Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:07 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:04 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:03 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:02 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:01 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:00 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: How shall we use the first time machine
From: Skivee
Date: 16 Mar 07 - 03:00 PM

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