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14 May 07 - 09:58 AM (#2051432) Subject: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,Nick I have one of those mid price range Char-Broil outdoor gas grills for steak, burgers etc. The first season it worked great. Plenty of flame & heat. Now it has become tempremental. Sometimes it works fine, other times it puts out very little heat. This is the second grill that has beaved the same way. The burner is in ok shape, I vacummed it clean. The tank is full. What else can go wrong with such simple technology that expalins the spotty performance? It should not take 10 minutes a side to cook a 1/4 lb burger! Please help I'm hungry! |
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14 May 07 - 10:06 AM (#2051438) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Peace "What's Wrong with my Gas Grill?" It don't work! |
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14 May 07 - 10:10 AM (#2051441) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak Where did you store it over the winter? It's possible your pipes have some blockage or the sparky things are damp. If you have rubber hoses, check there's no cracks or holes - if in doubt, replace all hoses regardless of whether you see damage or not. Have the plates become detatched and not seated back in properly? We have this problem with our gas stove - when Manitas cleans the stovetop, sometimes the plates are not put back exactly in the right place. That makes the flame uneven and sometimes affects the pressure. Jiggling them til they fall into place cures it. Good luck - but as Jack Rosenthal was wont to say, 'if I want the taste of burnt worsted I'll have it in the comfort of my own home'. LTS |
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14 May 07 - 10:21 AM (#2051450) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Sorcha Is there a grease build up in either the plates or lava rock? Which does it have? If lava rock, buy some new ones. If you can't find actual grill rocks, the red or black landscaping ones work just fine. Perhaps a new heat plate element if it's not a rock one? |
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14 May 07 - 10:31 AM (#2051455) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Captain Ginger JFGI! |
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14 May 07 - 10:43 AM (#2051466) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Midchuck I just got a new one and just put it together a week or two ago. Same brand. It works fine so far. The instructions include a warning that in some climates, spiders can get into the pipes under the burner that the gas comes in through, going in by the air vents. Then they build nests in there and lay eggs and clog the lines so gas doesn't get to the burners. You may have to partially take it apart and clean out those pipes. P. |
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14 May 07 - 11:16 AM (#2051488) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: jeffp You can get plenty of knowledgable help at http://www.barbecuebible.com/board/. |
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14 May 07 - 03:43 PM (#2051674) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,Edouard I had the spider problem inside my burners. Less heat because of it. Cleaned them out and it worked fine |
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14 May 07 - 05:47 PM (#2051739) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Gurney They work by sqirting gas (I'm assuming that you are not talking about gasoline, but propane or equivalent) through a tiny hole called a jet, and mixing it with air in a tube which goes to the burner. Dirt/spiderwebs, etc, can be introduced when the hose from the tank is disconnected, and partially block the jet from the inside. Solution: Take the barbie to where compressed air is available, dismantle it, (many come apart without tools) unscrew and remove the jets (They look like tiny brass bolts with almost invisible holes, usually) with a spanner/wrench, and blow the jets out backwards, and blow everything else out just on principle. Do not enlarge the jet holes, they are critically important. Wear glasses when using compressed air. Turn on the gas tank knob VERY briefly to evict any residents in the hose. Do this out-of-doors, and don't be near naked flame when you do it, because gas will hang about near the ground. This is a fix for the generic barbie. If there are any holes rusted in the tubes, or burners, or cracks in the hoses, as Liz says, in yours, it could be very dangerous, because the gas hangs about near the ground, being heavier than air, so the first thing you know, you are PART of the barbeque. I've just re-read this, and it is quite frightening to the uninitiated. This was not my intention, but caution is advisable. Propane is remarkably dangerous, so don't take ANY cances with possible leaks. |
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14 May 07 - 05:59 PM (#2051749) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Gurney Second thoughts: The instructions were meant for the big grill with the external, refillable tank. If you have one of the modern ones with a small internal disposable tank, well, they work the same, but the fuel supply is different in that some of the tanks don't close off, and can only be removed when empty. I have tools that use this system, and I am very cautious of them. IF THE FUEL SUPPLY DOESN'T CLOSE OFF, DON'T MESS WITH IT. Take it to a specialist. Happy tinkering. Chris. |
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14 May 07 - 06:06 PM (#2051759) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,Big Brother Don Okay, here is what ya do. Pour about a half a gallon of barbecue fuel all over the fippin' coals. Then get about as far away from the flippin' thing as you can throw a match. And make sure you are UPWIND! That last part is flippin' important, eh? Then light the flippin' match, throw it at the grill, and hit the dirt! Works for me every time. The burgers will be very well done. - Don p.s. Don't do this too close to, like, your house, eh? Or by any trees. And not under no roof for sure. |
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14 May 07 - 06:07 PM (#2051762) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak So Don, when did your nomination for the Darwin Awards come in? LTS |
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14 May 07 - 07:58 PM (#2051832) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Bert Could be the pressure regulator. |
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14 May 07 - 08:11 PM (#2051858) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe "What's Wrong with my Gas, Grill?" Eat less beans. (Signed) Grill. |
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14 May 07 - 08:44 PM (#2051875) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,Big Brother Don I figger it this way, Liz. You only live once, right? So go for the gusto! - Don McBride |
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14 May 07 - 08:49 PM (#2051878) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe That's the trouble - too much gusto (gutso?!) with the beans... |
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14 May 07 - 09:18 PM (#2051890) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Sorcha I'm going for the spiders. Now, where is Nick???? |
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14 May 07 - 09:46 PM (#2051912) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: open mike the pressure regulator (diaphragm) may have been left out side and gotten wet or other wise damaged. |
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15 May 07 - 02:06 AM (#2052062) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Gurney BigBroDon, so you want to go through the Pearly Gates backwards in a big ball of flame? Way to go, man! |
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15 May 07 - 04:00 AM (#2052103) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Dave the Gnome Another example of two countries divided by a common language! Grill = Barbeque Broil or Broiler = Grill Puzzled the hell out of me first time I went to the states. But then again I wondered why I got funny looks when I nipped outside to roll a fag:-) Cheers Dave |
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15 May 07 - 04:23 AM (#2052114) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak Just remember, if you are blowing air down the tubes manually - DON'T SUCK! LTS |
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15 May 07 - 07:24 AM (#2052213) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe ... in spite of any advice you nmay get to the contary.... Door? Oh, all right... |
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15 May 07 - 12:32 PM (#2052448) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,Big Brother Don It's a hell of a good way to get St Peter's attenshun, eh, and get to the head of the line? LOL! Then on the other hand, if yer flippin' goin' to hell insted...which is always a possibility, I figger...then goin' there in a big ball of flame would sorta get you precooked fer the main event, right? I got it covered either way, man. - Don McBride |
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15 May 07 - 02:48 PM (#2052586) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Sorcha Broil or broiler--under the element inside the oven. |
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16 May 07 - 12:21 AM (#2053145) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST A grill is a device which could burn someone or explode if something goes wrong. You need authoritative advice specific to your model. 1. Check the manual. Manuals often have suggestions for fixing common problems. 2. Look up the maker's website. Search for FAQ's or e-mail a request for advice. Good luck, but be careful. |
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16 May 07 - 03:13 AM (#2053204) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad Water is the first thing I'd be checking for. I cook outside most of the year and if I dont cover the cooker, rain finds its way in via the burners & regulator. Try disconnecting the hose and drying things out. |
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16 May 07 - 05:02 AM (#2053258) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak Jim - didn't I say something like that in the third post or was 'the sparky things are damp' too techincal for you?! LTS |
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17 May 07 - 04:12 AM (#2054362) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad Close Liz: It's not the sparky things that are the problem though. At least not the problem, I'm suggesting. I've noticed with mine that when the water gets close to the valve, inside the line, the flame dies down, is impossible to fix and a frost line rises up the tank. I think that the water is coming into contact with the propane as it evaporates and the water turns to ice. Thus the line gets partially blocked at its narrowest point. Either that or as you say, the sparky things are damp. Cheers. James Chap |
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17 May 07 - 04:21 AM (#2054372) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak Which is why I only ever cook outside when I'm camping. Why go to all the fuss and bother of barbeques to get partially cooked, charcoal flavoured carpet tiles, oops, sorry, burgers. If I want something burnt and raw at the same time, I can do it quite nicely already in the comfort of my own kitchen, or as we say in our house, 'done to an old Dorset recipe' - otherwise known as 'Cajun style'. LTS |
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17 May 07 - 10:25 AM (#2054628) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad We have an open floor plan. I bought one of those gas cookers with three burners from Costco & my wife doesn't like gas. So I cook properly, outside and we're spared the cooking odours inside. Works for me but I do agree with your BBQ comments. |
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17 May 07 - 10:50 PM (#2055140) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Gurney Quote from 'Tim the Toolman: Man cook outdoors with fire: Woman cook indoors with magic! Magic bad! Fire good! Fire good! |
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17 May 07 - 11:23 PM (#2055167) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: EBarnacle Another possibility is crud or spiderwebs in the regulator. This can have much the same effect as similar issues near the jets. Any of these systems work best when immaculately clean. |
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18 May 07 - 03:02 AM (#2055255) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak I don't like gas either, but I'm learning to live with it and limit my intake of cauliflower and asparagus. Gurney - I thought I was the only person in the world who was hooked on that show! Urr urr urr.... LTS |
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18 May 07 - 02:51 PM (#2055776) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,TuckerG thougjt it could never be spider webs--did a cleaning w/ thin wire--it was exactly that--works great again. |
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18 May 07 - 02:55 PM (#2055778) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Peace We'll wait for the BOOM. |
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18 May 07 - 04:03 PM (#2055821) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad Yeah but were they wet, spiderwebs? |
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18 May 07 - 06:07 PM (#2055917) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak But I was still right wasn't I!! Please, I need some validation right now.....!! LTS |
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18 May 07 - 06:19 PM (#2055924) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad Liz was right! |
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18 May 07 - 07:14 PM (#2055975) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak Ah,,, I feel so much better now... You love me, you REALLY LOVE me!! LTS |
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18 May 07 - 08:15 PM (#2056012) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: wysiwyg I.... guess.... you'd.... say-- What could make it act this way? My grill... (my grill, my grill...) Talking 'bout, my grill, MyGrill! Oooh, ooh, ooh! ~S~ |
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18 May 07 - 08:18 PM (#2056016) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Little Hawk She takes just like a woman, she makes love just like a woman, and she aches just like a woman...but she breaks just like a little grill.... |
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18 May 07 - 08:18 PM (#2056017) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: wysiwyg Jumpin' Jack Flash In a grillgrillgrill! Baby Weber, my baby Weber, I need you (oh how I need you weber) ~S~ |
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18 May 07 - 08:25 PM (#2056021) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: wysiwyg Don't it smoke good, Norwegian wood chips? Check with your Grill, Friday. ~S~ |
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18 May 07 - 08:38 PM (#2056026) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: wysiwyg Ono, I went to the DT..... I WANT A GRILL (just like the grill) that worked for dear old dad! --- THE GRILL I LEFT BEHIND ME (at the barbecue) I'm lonesome since I cross'd the hills, And o'er the moor that's sedgy; With heavy thoughts my mind is fill'd, Since I parted with my Peggy When e'er I return to view the place, The tears doth fall and blind me, When I think on the charming grace Of the grill I left behind me! --- ORPHAN GRILL (apol's to Gillian Welch) I am an orphan, in g-d's alley, And I'll share my troubles, if you'll let me. No sizzle for your mother, your father, your sister, your brother, I am an orphan grill. I have grilled veggies, pure and golden, But the steaks of kinship, I can't cook them, Not for your mother, your father, your sister, your brother, I am an orphan grill. --- Better get a new FACTORY GRILL As I was a walking one midsummer morning The birds in the branches so sweetly did sing The lads and the lasses together were sporting Going down to yon factory their work to begin I spied there amongst them more fairer than any A burger like red roses that none could excel Its cheese top like the lily that blooms in the valley Needed only a hard working factory grill I stepped up to one, it was for to fire it When on me it cast a bright look of disdain "Oh young man have manners and do not insult me For although I'm a poor grill I think it no shame" --- DADDY'S GRILL (apol's to Glen Martin) I recall the night ... That you came into this yard I couldn't believe the deliveryman When he said, "It's a little grill." I said, "Now Don you must be wrong You see I want a barbecue." Then he laid it in my patio And my heart sang with joy. ... === ~S~ |
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18 May 07 - 08:41 PM (#2056032) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Little Hawk Then there's the Grill from Ipanema... |
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18 May 07 - 08:41 PM (#2056033) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: wysiwyg GRILL OF CONSTANT SORROW I am a grill of constant sorrow I've seen trouble all my days I bid farewell to old Kentucky The state where I had burnt and braised! ~S~ |
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19 May 07 - 01:52 AM (#2056190) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad The .... There..... I lov.... Oh, I've got nothing! |
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19 May 07 - 04:36 AM (#2056238) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak All the nice grills love a sailor, all the nice grills love a tar! For there's something about a sailor, Well, you know what sailors are! LTS |
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19 May 07 - 04:42 AM (#2056244) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Liz the Squeak And there's that Beatle's classic 'Ah, Grill'. LTS |
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19 May 07 - 05:17 AM (#2056259) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: JennyO Little surfer little one Made my heart come all undone Do you love me, do you surfer grill Surfer grill my little surfer grill I have watched you on the shore Standing by the oceans roar Do you love me, do you surfer grill Surfer grill surfer grill |
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19 May 07 - 05:35 AM (#2056262) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: JennyO I'm just a grill who can't say no I'm in a terrible fix Friday night, we see the grills on the avenue Like a child at big store windows, you feel confused So many grills on the avenue To all the grills I've loved before Who travelled in and out my door I'm glad they came along I dedicate this song To all the grills I've loved before Hot grills, they can break me, break me Hot grills, you know what you're doing Now, hot grills, come and break me, break me Hot grills, take me where you are going |
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19 May 07 - 10:06 AM (#2056387) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe Why did the monkey run there the jungle with a steak on his head? He thought he was a griller. |
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19 May 07 - 10:09 AM (#2056389) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe Why did the monkey run through the jungle with a steak on his head? He thought he was a griller. |
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19 May 07 - 11:48 AM (#2056452) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: Jim Lad Why did the monkey run through the jungle with a steak on his head? He thought he was a griller. |
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19 May 07 - 09:14 PM (#2056717) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe Snap! |
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19 May 07 - 09:53 PM (#2056738) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Go to a WELDING - SUPPLY - STORE
For much less than 5pound they will sell you a "multiple-keyed" orifice cleaner.
Select the right size at home....and ream them all.
Good as NEW.
You can use it on your camp-stove and indoor kitchen too.
Sincerely, |
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20 May 07 - 01:45 AM (#2056815) Subject: RE: BS: What's Wrong with my Gas Grill? From: The Fooles Troupe I don't know if you could buy one big enough Gargoyle .... ;-P |