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24 May 07 - 03:25 PM (#2060099) Subject: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Rog Peek It seems that a schoolboy fight, albeit ellegedly one sided has been turned into attempted 2nd degree murder with a possible prison sentence of up 100 years. |
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24 May 07 - 03:29 PM (#2060104) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Peace WTF now? |
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24 May 07 - 03:31 PM (#2060107) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Amos Rog: A reference or link for contexrt would prevent your posts from sounding completely disconnected. A |
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24 May 07 - 03:43 PM (#2060114) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: jeffp Attempted murder in the Federal system in the US is only 20 years. |
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24 May 07 - 03:54 PM (#2060123) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Rog Peek Sorry Amos Program on BBC2 7.00 p.m. tonight. I did not see the very beginning, and when I switched over they were talking about black students in a college in Jena Louisiana being prevented from sitting under a tree, which it seems had traditionally been only for white students. At least I think that was what had sparked off the trouble. It seems that when black pupils protested, somebody hung a noose from the tree, some black residents say as a warning, some white residents say as a prank. At first, I thought I was viewing a story from the sixties, except, I guess then, there would have been a black student at the end of the rope. There are a number of entries on google, including the link below http://www.notmytribe.com/2007/justice/the-jena-6.html Hope this helps. |
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24 May 07 - 04:36 PM (#2060152) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Peace One view here. Takes about 5-7 seconds to load. |
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24 May 07 - 04:46 PM (#2060166) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Rapparee Equal justice...if you do the crime, you should do the time. If true the Feds will be coming down hard on Jena, LA; if not then the Feds should be coming down hard on the liars. |
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24 May 07 - 05:50 PM (#2060226) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Richard Bridge 6 people assault one person. If it's attempted murder, the one should be dead. If he ain't dead, they weren't trying. That is one issue. The other is the apparently overt racism of local authorities. Keep the issues separate. |
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24 May 07 - 06:19 PM (#2060255) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: Amos Actually, I shoulda known the reference, but thanks for providing the orientation. A |
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24 May 07 - 06:50 PM (#2060274) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: artbrooks Trials postponed until late June. Story in the local paper is here. |
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24 May 07 - 10:37 PM (#2060382) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: GUEST,meself Three of these guys are, according to the newspaper, charged with "conspiracy to commit attempted second-degree murder". Anyone have the foggiest notion what that is supposed to mean? |
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24 May 07 - 10:40 PM (#2060386) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: artbrooks From the sound of it, they discussed beating the shit out of another high school student before they actually (allegedly) did it. |
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24 May 07 - 10:53 PM (#2060390) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: GUEST,meself But - if it's "second-degree murder", doesn't that mean that it is NOT premeditated? And if there was a "conspiracy", wouldn't it have been to commit (whatever-degree) murder? Is it possible to both "commit" and merely "attempt" a crime? Sounds like they're being charged with conspiring to commit and conspiring not quite to commit murder - so that the Prosecution can have it either way ... |
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24 May 07 - 11:29 PM (#2060396) Subject: RE: BS: Jena 6 guilty attempted 2nd deg. murder? From: John O'L Hmm. It's a bit ambiguous, isn't it. I think we'd better throw it out. (In the courtroom of honour the judge pounded his gavel...) |