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21 Apr 07 - 01:05 PM (#2032032) Subject: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss The many Mudcat discussions on the future of folk / acoustic clubs and venues has been a major calayst for this idea, and I know a lot of club organisers are Mudcatters... FOLKCLUBS LIST Following the infiltration of the old FolkBiz-UK list by spammers, and knowing how useful a closed support group can be thanks to Britfolk, we're starting a new CLOSED group specially for folk club organisers, volunteers and others interested in the business side of clubs (Festivals already have an organisation). There's been a lot of chatter about the imminent demise of folk clubs, which we think is a bit _previous_, but it's true there are some serious challenges ahead. Licensing, the smoking ban, changes in pub trade, PRS, an ageing audience, young performers and where they can learn their trade, preserving the tradition, publicity, press, advertising, security, PR, websites, PA and lighting kit, where to buy candles and backdrops, door prices, artists fees - are all topics people might want to discuss amongst friends. So the forum is open only to those who have applied and been identified, because, like Britfolk, it should be a place where people can feel free to chat to others in a similar situation, in reasonable confidence. It's NOT a place for artists to sell themselves, (though performers may join if they have something useful to contribute to the debate, and websites in signatures will be permitted). To join just send a blank e-mail to; folkclubs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Once you've joined, the mailing address for members is: folkclubs@yahoogroups.com Let's make the new folkclubs list active and useful and prove fRoots and others wrong when they say folk clubs are dying on their feet. Frankly, it's our duty to make sure they thrive beyond our generation. Please hop aboard or forward to any club organisers who you think might be interested Jacey and Tom -- Jacey Bedford jacey(at)jacey-bedford.com Tom Bliss bliss(at)dircon.co.uk |
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21 Apr 07 - 02:01 PM (#2032074) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Sooz I've just joined up. |
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21 Apr 07 - 02:55 PM (#2032112) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Rasener So Have I |
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22 Apr 07 - 04:48 AM (#2032453) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss The applications are coming in by the minute this morning. Please tell your local club organisers about it. This could prove to be a very timely development. Thanks Tom |
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22 Apr 07 - 09:25 AM (#2032563) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST Who are you calling 'ageing' ? I'm the same age I've always been. |
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22 Apr 07 - 02:36 PM (#2032740) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Girl Friday I think I joined up. I kept being told that my comments were too long. I edited them two or three times, then I got bored. No way were they any more than 100 characters. |
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22 Apr 07 - 02:41 PM (#2032746) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Hi Girl Friday - don't worry about putting comments for now. Just send the Join-Up email, and then you can post as long a comment as you need! :-) Tom |
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24 Apr 07 - 09:41 AM (#2034282) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Just bumping this to the top before I loose it. We have 70+ members already but there are 450 clubs in the Uk... |
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24 Apr 07 - 01:21 PM (#2034505) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: nickp Sent mine off although I'm not actually a club organiser as such. Note that is there's might be a spam attack eventually should those email addresses be 'in the open' at the top. Can a Joe-Clone convert them to avoid the 'bots'? Nick |
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25 Apr 07 - 02:06 AM (#2035045) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Sliding Down The Bannister At My Auntie's House So once we send a blank email off what then? |
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25 Apr 07 - 03:40 AM (#2035091) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Yes good point about the spam - thanks. I wasn't thinking, as my email's all over the web anyway. When you send off your blank email, it comes to us for approval. We know most club organiser's addresses already so we click them through, or if we don't we might write to ask who you are (if you've not said in the 'blank' mail) before approving. This is to keep out spammers and anyone who's not really involved at all. Once you're a member, you log into the Yahoo Groups site and choose whether to recieve group messages as normal emails, or just as an email digest, or to have no emails and merely look at and post messages on the Yahoo site. By bad luck Yahoo had a glitch in the first few days so some people couldn't get into the site properly, but it's working now and there's merry chat happening. |
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25 Apr 07 - 03:14 PM (#2035649) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Rasener >>but it's working now and there's merry chat happening<< You are not joking Tom, a bit overwhelming. I went into my inbox on yahoo and had over 100 posts, which look to be the posts from the threads. Is that correct. Les |
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26 Apr 07 - 04:20 AM (#2036080) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss Yes. it's an emails-based group, so there are times when there's quite a lot of traffic. But if you're on dial-up, or just don't want to get a lot of mail, you can switch off the email function and just read and post on the Yahoo website, more like Mudcat. 1) Go to www.yahoogroups.com 2) Sign up if you are not already registered, or sign in if you are 3) go to _my groups_ 4) click on the relevant group (folkclubs) 5) to see the group's archived messages from the frame on the left hand side click _messages_ 6) you can read and reply to messages via the yahoogroups website You can also change your message status. Click on Edit Membership... (witch is top left above the 'folk clubs' banner) You can choose 1) Emails as they are sent 2) Just a Daily Digest, which lets you see all message by email, but limits the amount of email you receive. 3) Special Notices only - (important email notices from the group moderators). 4) Or you can choose Web Only, in which you only read and post messages on the web, and don't see any emails at all. Cheers Tom |
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26 Apr 07 - 04:27 AM (#2036082) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: GUEST,Tom Bliss We've had a few requests from non UK clubs, and also from dance clubs. We did assume that this would be mainly about UK-based song and tune clubs (both concert and singaround types), and 90% of members are indeed located here, but as long as you don't mind that fact that most of the chat is likely to be about issues affecting the above we do think it's a good idea to have some non-UK and/or a dance people, because, after all, we're all trying to achieve the same thing, and many of the problems we face are universal. So come on down! Tom |
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26 Apr 07 - 04:41 AM (#2036089) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Rasener I do two things now Tom I open the Yahoo e-mail on the internet (webmail) I then open the yahoogroups (folkclubs) I read the e-mails and delete them. I then rely on the group part if I want to go back to an old post. I minimise both windows on the taskbar when not in use. Les |
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29 Apr 07 - 01:21 PM (#2038782) Subject: RE: New eList forum for club organisers From: Rasener Refresh for Muppitz :-) |
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13 May 07 - 08:20 AM (#2050578) Subject: RE: New online forum for club organisers From: GUEST, Tom Bliss I've been telking about this to a few club organisers in the past weeks and promised to bump this tread to the top so they can see how to join up... so here goes and thanks all (90ish) members and some really useful ideas already. Any organisers who haven't joined up, please do. We need you! Tom (A few people joined then left again - if this was because you don't like getting emails, please try again and select the web-only option. Then you can dip in only when you feel like it). |
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13 May 07 - 01:00 PM (#2050715) Subject: RE: New online forum for club organisers From: Amos Very funny. A |
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30 May 07 - 05:00 AM (#2063847) Subject: Forum for club organisers From: Joe Offer refresh |