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Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)

31 May 07 - 09:02 AM (#2064832)
Subject: Lyr Req: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: saulgoldie

I have this song running through my head, and I can't remember more than a few pieces of it. Something like:

Here in the land they call Gallilee,
A new kind of breeze is blowing.
Water flows from the desert sea,
bringing hope for tomorrow.

(Probably not the most politically correct song, these days, I suppose.)

Anyone have the whole song in English? I know the original is in Yiddish or Hebrew. I have browsed the Mudcat and surfed the Web and I cannot find them. IIRC, the lyrics were on an album liner. Thanks in advance.

Saul


31 May 07 - 12:57 PM (#2065028)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: Joe Offer

Hmmmm. This one is a puzzle. I looked through a stack of Limeliters albums, and didn't find it. I did find this (click), which seems to indicate that the Hebrew name of the song is "Shir Habokrim." Zemerl (click) has lyrics for "Shir Habokrim," but they don't seem to jive with what you've posted.
Any idea what Limeliters album it's on?
Ah, I looked again - it's called "Aravah, Aravah" on The Slightly Fabulous Limeliters - except that the CD reissue spells it "Aravan, Aravan."
-Joe-


31 May 07 - 01:13 PM (#2065036)
Subject: ADD: Shir HaBokrim
From: Joe Offer

I can't transcribe the song right now because I'll disturb my student. I'll get to it later. Here are the lyrics from zemerl.com:

Shir HaBokrim
(M. Nozyk and Y. Orland)


Arava arava ein ketz
Ein habokrim tara
Lo arar lo dardar lo ets
ruach ba hamidbara

Lo arar lo dardar lo ets
ruach ba hamidbara

Zemer habokrim yaale v'yivka
al merchavim avudim ad en gemer
v'tizrach hachama v'tishka
umosif v'koleach hazemer

Arava, arava ein ketz
Shnot alafim kamu
Haboker al gav sus kadmon
Badrachim shenashamu

(translation - Literal, not poetic)
Desert, desert without end
The cowboys' eyes survey it
No juniper, no thistle, no tree
Wind coming from the wilderness

The cowboys' song rises and falls
Over an empty, endless expanse
The sun rises and sets
And the song continues to flow

Desert, desert without end
Arisen over thousands of years
The cowboy astride his Arabian [aboriginal horse]
Over roads that breathe


31 May 07 - 01:48 PM (#2065066)
Subject: ADD: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: Joe Offer

Aravah, Aravah
(attributed to Hasslev - probably just the English)
(Hebrew by M. Nozyk and Y. Orland)

In the land they call Galilee,
A new kind of breeze is blowin'.
From Jerusalem to the sea,
An ancient dream is a-growin'.
From Jerusalem to the sea,
An ancient dream is a-growin'.

Come lend a hand, there's a land to be won
By every hand, every day, every hour.
Work the fields with the plow and the gun
Plant the seed 'til the plain is in flower.

Arava arava ein ketz
Ein habokrim tara
Lo arar lo dardar lo ets
ruach ba hamidbara

Lo arar lo dardar lo ets
ruach ba hamidbara

Aravah is a growing land,
Built out of tears and sorrow.
Water flows in the desert sand,
Bringing hope for tomorrow.
Water flows in the desert sand,
Bringing hope for tomorrow.

Zemer habokrim yaale v'yivka
al merchavim avudim ad en gemer
v'tizrach hachama v'tishka
umosif v'koleach hazemer

Arava, arava ....can't understand this (not the same as above)


(transcribed by ear from The Slightly Fabulous Limeliters)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjoqRXB3bKk


31 May 07 - 03:00 PM (#2065123)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: saulgoldie

Yeah! Thanks a mucho!


01 Jun 07 - 06:22 PM (#2066087)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: Joe Offer

Can anybody fix the Hebrew in the last verse of the Limeliters version?
-Joe-


27 Apr 10 - 06:12 PM (#2895528)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah by the Limeliters
From: GUEST,RD

Here are the English Lyrics

From the land they call galilee a new kind of breeze is blowing
(from jerusalem to the sea an ancient dream is growing)
(repeat)

Come and lend a hand there is a job to be done by every hand
every day every hour work the fields with a plow and a gun
Plant the seed till the plains is in flowers Aravah Aravah

Aravah is a growing land built by tears and sorrows
(water flows in the desert now bringing hope for tomorrow)
(repeat )


I listened to limeliter CD about 20 times and this is as good as I can decipher it The original Limeliter album cover
The Slightly Fabulous Limeliters has a volkswagon with a base case on the top with Lou Alex and Glenn on top looking over


28 Dec 10 - 04:54 PM (#3062821)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST

I used to love to play and sing this song in the 60s, even though I knew no Hebrew and could only phonetically approximate the non-English portions. Recently I bought the CD with "Aravah, Aravah" and revisited the song in high-quality sound with a good set of studio earphones.

I still don't know what the last verse means, or even if it's any more a legitimate language than the fake Elvish that Enya adds to "May It Be", but as close as my aging ears can come, the end of the song sounds like:

Aravah, Aravah ni
Al yekase tredem
Mechadezch na fa ni
Ef yar ma y'like gedem

Mechadezch na fa ni
Ef yar ma y'like gedem!

Ahhh, ahhh etc

There may be a very soft "r" at the end of the first line ("aravah nir") but there is no "r" at the end of the third line which rhymes with it. "Y'like" may not even be close -- the "y" sound might be something else entirely, maybe even a part of the previous word -- but it's what I used to sing there, and after twenty or thirty passes with my good 'phones, I can't hear anything else.

Am I close enough that someone with linguistic experience can figure out what Lou, Alex, and Glen were really singing?


01 Jan 11 - 03:01 PM (#3065128)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST

Theodore Bikel sings this in Hebrew, rolling his "r"'s interminably like a pureblood Scotsman. Because there is only one voice, it's easier to hear the sounds of the words in the last verse. Because it is Hebrew and I am not, I still don't hear exactly what he is singing ...

http://savethemusic.com/bin/archives.cgi?q=songs&search=title&id=Aravah,+Aravah


25 Aug 11 - 02:46 PM (#3212615)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST,Mordechay, Israel

The last verse in hebrew says:

Aravah, Aravah, al dmi,
Al yechasech redem,
Nechadesh na at va ani
Et yamayich kekedem.

Which means literally:

Desert, Desert, do not keep still,
Shall sleep not cover you:
May the two of us, you and me,
Renew your days of old.


05 May 15 - 07:18 PM (#3706731)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST

It is on the Limeliters album The slightly fabulous Limeliters


06 May 15 - 07:30 AM (#3706826)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: Jack Campin

There is another "let's march across Palestine killing and thieving and call it peace and progress" song in the Sing Out Hootenanny Song Book (1963, I think): Road to Eilat. I was pretty horrified to see it there and equally shocked to see that Pete Seeger had a significant part in editing it.

I can't imagine ever hearing songs like this on the folk scene - I'd guess that now, they'd occupy the same twilight zone as Orange songs about wading through Fenian blood or the worst products of the minstrel shows. But it seems they were considered singable by at least some American folkies once.

When did they start being sung on the folk scene? And when did they stop?

And what on earth did Seeger think he was doing?


02 Apr 17 - 11:57 PM (#3848268)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST,Paul Charette

I would have to guess that someone who does not understand how, when and why positive songs about the land of Israel were sung by generally "leftist" folkies is either relatively young (born after 1970) and/or has no knowledge of the hugely leftish orientation of most of the Jews who went to the land in the mid 20th century and the leftist folkies in America who supported them in their anti-Capitalist enterprise. The founders of the kibbutzim were predominantly secular "back-to-the-land" quasi-communists from the various laborers/workers/unionist movements of the era, of which Pete Seeger was a prominent part. Are you unaware that conditions and attitudes in countries change over time? Business, conservative religious and upper class power-seeking politicians radically changed the character of Israel over the past 60 years and you'll find few folksingers singing Zionist songs these days.


22 May 21 - 03:04 PM (#4107049)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: GUEST,Scott Fisher

Thank you, Paul Charette, for a thought-provoking reply that begins to answer a question I had been pondering while remembering this song "Aravah, Aravah" from the early 60s.


22 May 21 - 10:54 PM (#4107103)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Aravah (The Limeliters)
From: Joe Offer

Here's an interesting medley of songs from the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces), the military forces of the State of Israel:It's my understanding that there is universal conscription in Israel, both males and females. Israelis are certainly not united in support of Benjamin Netanyahu, who has held onto power by a thread for 12 years. It's a complicated matter, and I'm not ready to pass judgment on either side. Many of the Jewish settler songs were written in the 1950s, when American progressives (including Pete Seeger) were solidly in support of the new State of Israel as an answer to the Holocaust. Many of us had read Leon Uris (Exodus, et al.), and we had high hopes for the idealism of the State of Israel. It hasn't all worked out as we had hoped, but there still are many good things to be said about Israel. If only a State of Palestine could also arise and prosper. I know many Israelis who have the same hope.

I don't think that in the 1950s and 1960s, Israel considered local Palestinians to be "the enemy," although I'm sure that the local Palestinians suffered most. The Israelis saw "the enemy" as the combined military forces of all the surrounding Arab nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces