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23 Jun 07 - 09:50 PM (#2085257) Subject: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker well.. i do.. SORRY.!!!! i was well cidered up on a 2 day binge last weekend.. and i'm sure i posted some total wank stupidity here. so again i say sorry... i am well shamed for myself and dare not read what i did... so i imposed a 1 week punishment total ban on posting anything anywhere under my 'punkfolkrocker' name.. cant say sorry enough how much a twat i can be when so hansomely apple juiced up.. ..anyway.. i only had 4 bottles tonight.. so.......... |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:01 PM (#2085263) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker ..so far.. |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:07 PM (#2085267) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River I can flippin' realate to yer problem, man. I have, like, done a few thigns myself that I was sorry about later when I was under the affluence of incohol, eh? A few here and there. It takes a big man to, like, admit that he was a flippin' idiot. Way to go, man. If you want to, like, get yer problem aunder better control you could, like, send me all yer liquier. Then you won't be flippin' tempted again, eh? Send it all to Shane McBride, General flippin' Delivery, Blind River, Ontario, Canada. I will take care of it for ya. That is what freneds are for, eh? - Shane |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:18 PM (#2085280) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolckrocker .. like get a transcontinental farmhouse cider pipeline going..!!!!??? ..well we can all dream mate.. yeah..!!!!!!!! |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:20 PM (#2085282) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: frogprince "I was sorry later when I was under the affluence of incohol" Yes, I've noticed that the affluence of incohol seems to help some people get in touch with their regrets. |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:34 PM (#2085292) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,meself "so i imposed a 1 week punishment total ban on posting anything anywhere under my 'punkfolkrocker' name.." Um ... I don't suppose you think a '1 week punishment total ban' on CIDER would be a good idea, do you? No? (By the way, does anyone know what this guy's on about? I didn't notice him saying anything out of line. I mean, compared to some of the - well, you know what I mean ... ) |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:45 PM (#2085298) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker well.. dont wanna be an insecurere soft namby.. i think i just summoned up courage to apologise in total.. .for al th other forums i'm membered up in and got a bit out of order in.. ..but mudtwat is one of my favourites.. |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:46 PM (#2085299) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolfrocker oops.. mudclat.. |
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23 Jun 07 - 10:49 PM (#2085302) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,meself Hey, I always like to see someone else apologizing - for a change - |
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24 Jun 07 - 01:51 AM (#2085352) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Joe Offer You know, Punkfolkrocker, you're not making much sense right now. Maybe you should get some sleep.... -Joe Offer- |
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24 Jun 07 - 03:19 AM (#2085373) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ebbie Cider will do that to you, Joe. :) |
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24 Jun 07 - 03:32 AM (#2085379) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Georgiansilver When people have been drinkjing we tend to get the 'in-cider' information....not always a bad thing. |
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24 Jun 07 - 04:06 AM (#2085386) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle Cider is a great drink. Does anybody know that cider farm near Ilminster where they sell all different kinds? Got to be the best drink England has produced. They also do a delicious cider brandy over there in Somerset, but its ruinously expensive for some reason. I think Champagne and that Pommeau stuff they make over in France are rubbish - although Calvados isn't bad - give the French their due. The thing is punkfolkrocker. If you have a decent drink - well really what is there to regret as long as you don't drive round, or have access to firearms and suffer from depressive behaviour patterns. I think if you're on the diamond whites and knocking it back for the brain damage, because reality needs restucturing - well I've been there - and reality stays in need of restructuring. |
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24 Jun 07 - 05:46 AM (#2085422) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Megan L :) punkfolkrocker you could of course create a perma thread for appologies then you wouldnt have to type it out each time. typing wie a sair hied is a bissim. |
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24 Jun 07 - 06:18 AM (#2085438) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: gnu Whose cider you on, Megan? A perma thread for apologies? You woulda thunk I'da come up with that long ago!! Hehehehe. |
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24 Jun 07 - 06:40 AM (#2085444) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne Yep, cider is a great drink, but PROPER cider (such as I rarely get the chance to get hold of around here) is pretty powerful stuff. In fact, I haven't actually been drunk since our first quarter session over two years ago when I had rahter more Old Rosie than I should have and made a total fool of myself! Starkle starkle little twink, Who the hell you are I think.... I'm not under the alfluence of incohol, Nor drunk, as some thinkle peep I am. Besides, I've only had tee martoonis And I've all day sober to Sunday up in. I fool so feelish, I don't know who's me yet, But the drunker I sit here, The longer I get Love Lynne |
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24 Jun 07 - 07:16 AM (#2085458) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Liz the Squeak Should I be worried that this entire thread makes perfect sense to me? And I'm sober.... LTS |
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24 Jun 07 - 07:23 AM (#2085465) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Leadfingers I know the feeling Liz !! I LOVE Cider but it does SERIOUS nasties to my internal workings . so I stick to beer these days ! |
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24 Jun 07 - 07:40 AM (#2085475) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: terrier I went to Bromyard festival some years ago. A Landrover pulled up onto the campsite, opened the back doors and started selling 'rough cider' dirt cheap. People were buying gallons of the stuff. Next morining, the campsite was populated by the walking dead. The clog morris workshop tent was strangely quiet that morning, in fact, everything was strangely quiet that morning! |
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24 Jun 07 - 08:30 AM (#2085494) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull idont like cider, it gives me belly ake, and makes me ill. |
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24 Jun 07 - 08:35 AM (#2085496) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: John MacKenzie Stick to bear j0hn, it's better for hamsters too! G |
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24 Jun 07 - 11:36 AM (#2085592) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle Bout five or six years ago I was gigging loads of old peoples homes - two or three most days. One night in Derby, after the gig, I sat down to cathch my breath next to this old gentleman. You ever been beaten with a stick? he suddenly said. I wondered if he hadn't liked the act. However, I was too tired to brush it off with some facetious nonsense - so I admitted three of four times when I was eleven or twelve - it had happened to me. My Dad used to beat me with a stick, made a proper job of it...., and the old man told this story about how after the war, he'd married a Derby girl and worked as a park keeper in Derby - but he was born on cider farm near Taunton. And when he was young he used to steal the cider and if his Dad caught him, it was the stick for certain. Mind you I used to drink the best cider, he said, if you ever get inside a cider farm - the first pressing is the ONLY one. The second pressing is nothing in comparison. I always got the first pressing, it was worth risking getting caught.... Anyway I said my goodbyes, and picked up the money and headed off, as one does.. But next time I went there about a month later, I made sure I had a couple decent bottles of cider to take him as a present. Unfortunately he had died a couple of weeks before. They'd gone to wake him one morning, but he was gone. So I pass on to you his wisdom... Always get the first pressing if you can. Sometimes its worth the risk. And perhaps another conclusion you can draw is - make sure your kids have nice memories of you, those memories will be one of the last things they have left. |
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24 Jun 07 - 11:45 AM (#2085607) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ebbie Actually, I have never tasted 'hard' cider. So far as I know, there is no commercial outlet for it in the US. Does anyone know different? |
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24 Jun 07 - 11:48 AM (#2085610) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: John MacKenzie I bought some in NY State Ebbie, but it was a rare find I was told. G |
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24 Jun 07 - 11:56 AM (#2085618) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Bill D Ebbie....when Micca was here, he was rather surprised to find several brands of cider he could happily drink. I don't know whether Alaska thinks it is worth shipping North, but it is certainly available. (The problem with cider is that it is WAY too easy to drink....it tastes good and doesn't 'warn' the taste buds the way some beer and like whiskey does. Some wine is also just too 'smooth' and easy to pour down...)(I know, I know...some folks can pour down almost anything...*sigh*) I am perhaps fortunate that alcohol of most kinds begins to taste less good when I have had enough...I don't think I have been over the legal limit in over 30 years. |
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24 Jun 07 - 12:39 PM (#2085664) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: wysiwyg PFR, this was cute-- the FIRST time you did it. ~S~ |
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24 Jun 07 - 12:53 PM (#2085672) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ebbie I know that in Virginia in the 50s people/youngsters drank cider- but I don't know where they got it. I don't remember hearing it mentioned in Oregon. The same thing in Juneau. When I was a kid, my family pressed their own apples and made apple cider. I remember that my parents sometimes mentioned that the cider was in danger of 'turning'. I thought that meant turning into vinegar. |
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24 Jun 07 - 02:08 PM (#2085732) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Bill D These days, it is just one more item on liquor store shelves. Different stores have different brands...and 'some' pubs/bars (where we take visiting Brits) will carry a selection. (under menu/beer) |
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24 Jun 07 - 02:09 PM (#2085734) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ruth Archer You can get imported Woodpecker cider in America. I've seen it in liquor stores in NJ, NY and CA. |
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24 Jun 07 - 02:10 PM (#2085735) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Rapparee Let's not confuse hard cider and applejack here, folks.... |
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24 Jun 07 - 03:35 PM (#2085801) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Bill D The bottled stuff we found for Micca was genuine cider...He is pretty discriminating. 4 different kinds, if I remember correctly. |
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24 Jun 07 - 04:43 PM (#2085854) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne Woodpecker is a disgusting, sweet, gaseous drink that in no way resembles 'real'cider. As a cider drinker, I wouldn't drink it if it were the only alcohol on offer Love Lynne |
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24 Jun 07 - 04:47 PM (#2085856) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: John MacKenzie Quite right Lynne, it's like Babycham is to Champagne, a cheap imitation G |
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24 Jun 07 - 07:09 PM (#2085938) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: maeve Ebbie, here in New England there are several people who are growing proper cider apples and some are now producing the real cider. It's filling some of the market spots that local wineries and small label breweries have developed in the last twenty years or so. At our small farm we now have a young orchard that included cider varieties to use in the future. maeve |
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24 Jun 07 - 07:33 PM (#2085951) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: wysiwyg Just as an aside, it's been discussed before that people in different times/places assign different meanings to "cider" and "hard cider" (and the other terms that have appeared in this thread). Me, I just leave it to the cows to make it all clear. When they are having "way too much fun," I know which apples they've been into! :~) ~Susan |
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25 Jun 07 - 12:28 AM (#2086110) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ebbie "...proper cider apples and some are now producing the real cider." maeve Maeve, I should have thought that *real* cider is the fresh stuff. What is the difference between hard cider and applejack, Rapaire? |
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25 Jun 07 - 02:55 AM (#2086145) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ruth Archer Applejack is a liquor, whereas "hard" cider is just fermented apple juice. Applejack used to be a big thing in NJ. It's much, much stronger than cider. |
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25 Jun 07 - 03:26 AM (#2086153) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Gurney That's right, Ruth. The traditional way (would we be interested in anything else?) is to put the keg outside on a freezing night. Next morning, remove the ice, and put the keg outside on a freezing night..... Water freezes, alcohol doesn't. Don't leave the keg out during the day. A bus-tour from Blind River might be passing. |
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25 Jun 07 - 06:17 AM (#2086236) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: maeve Hi, Ebbie. Real cider for me is the fresh pressed non-pasturized juice, but I was referring to the cider found in Britain and linking it to the bottled cider produced by some microbreweries here. Applejack is good, too, made in winter as Gurney describes. I've used jugs of sweet fresh cider after it began to get fizzy. maeve |
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25 Jun 07 - 09:18 AM (#2086364) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle I've got to admit I would never even start to try and get hold of good quality cider if I weren't actually in the south west of England. Lots of good places in Somerset and devon. Theres good inoffensive stuff down the supermarket - like that stuff in the white can that used to subsudise the English cricket team. But nothing really tastes like the cider you buy off the farmer. |
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25 Jun 07 - 09:27 AM (#2086374) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: John MacKenzie Apple juice is apple juice in the UK, and cider is an alcoholic drink. Yet another example of our common linguistic heritage ¦¬] Giok |
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25 Jun 07 - 09:44 AM (#2086389) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Ruth Archer I'd add Hereforshire and Shropshire to that list, WLD. Some excellent farm ciders from the borders. |
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25 Jun 07 - 12:12 PM (#2086526) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle Thanks for the tip Ruth! |
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25 Jun 07 - 12:51 PM (#2086571) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne And bottled cider isn't a patch on draught either. Norfolk does cider too but I don't know if it's any good. Love Lynne |
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25 Jun 07 - 12:56 PM (#2086578) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: John MacKenzie Norfolk an' good. |
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25 Jun 07 - 01:04 PM (#2086588) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Stringsinger Punkrock should be understood in the context of its historical development and not dissed. I'm certainly one who has posted stupid stuff for which I regret. I like the brassy part of punkrock that is concerned with the leading political issues of our time....the stupidity and corruption of war, the racism and the widening dicotomy of economic classes, the political stink of our current Administration here in the States and all the attempts to fascistize our country. It's good that punkrock is speaking out on this. The best performers of the genre will do the homework and study where it came from and how it fits in to the historical culture from which it emanates. As for Socialism.....keep on keepin' on. Socialism and Capitalism have coexisted successfully in the US for a long time. Frank |
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26 Jun 07 - 12:45 AM (#2087040) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker oops....!!!!! yes.. its round about this time every summer i make the same mistake of drinking my usual weekend quota of favourite full strength local ciders on top of a strong dose of prescription sedative antihistamines..!!??? |
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26 Jun 07 - 01:08 AM (#2087048) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker btw.. when i was a boy back in the mid 60's.. a local farmer used to drive up in his van doing door-to-door cider deliveries.. its rumoured [almost family legend] my grandad used to have 12 gallons a week.. he was a fat blind old man confined to an armchair when i knew him.. i was given my own personalised engraved glass bottom pewter tankard so i could learn to enjoy a small drink in the house with my dad while we watched tv together on the one night each weeek he didn't go out for darts or skittles matches.. one time when i was 8 years old.. i 'borrowed' one of the family flaggons of farmhouse; hid in the cupboard under the stairs.. and drank myself unconcious.. so nothin much has changed in the last 40 years.... |
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26 Jun 07 - 03:11 AM (#2087089) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST,apple of your eye And you're worried about your old mum and her failing mental faculties???????? |
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26 Jun 07 - 03:12 AM (#2087090) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne Not surprised your grandfather was blind on 12 gallons of cider a week! Love Lynne |
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26 Jun 07 - 04:04 AM (#2087125) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle When I was about 18 (late 1960's) I used to go in this pub in Exmouth where cider was on draught at 1/2d a pint (bitter was 1/3d). This old guy came in with a cherry red face - I bet he was about my age now. I asked my mates, why is his face like that? Oh that's the cider does that, they said. I wonder if they were right. You just accept things when you're a kid. That cider was bloody powerful stuff. The local saying was that no one could be held accountable after two pints of the stuff |
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26 Jun 07 - 04:19 AM (#2087133) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: GUEST, Topsie Drinking cider from a pewter tankard can be a VERY bad idea if it is old pewter containing lead. |
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26 Jun 07 - 04:34 AM (#2087146) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Gurney ....She had a little line across the bridge of her nose. She said "That line you're looking at, was caused by glasses, my dear." I said "Why don't you use contact lenses?" She said "They don't hold enough beer!" Part verse from a Benny Hill song. |
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26 Jun 07 - 07:20 AM (#2087230) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne Yes, drinking cider from pewter is a no-no. Even modern pewter, which I believe contains antimony rather than lead, is still dodgy. Antimony is still poisonous but harder so doesn't generally leach into the drink as much as lead but because cider is so acidic it will dissolve some of the antimony. That's what I'm told anyway. In my earlier cider drinking days I had an old pewter tankard that I'd bought at a second hand shop. I was at Sidmouth, where my consumption of cider over the week (in my young, free and single days) I once worked out to be something like six gallons. On about the third or fourth day I went down into town and was complaining in the pub that my head felt dizzy and my fingers and toes were tingling. someone said "What are you drinking in that tankard?" I said "Scrumpy" and he or she said "You've got lead poisoning!" I gave up the tankard immediately and the symptoms went away. Now I always drink it out of pottery tankards or glasses. Love Lynne |
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26 Jun 07 - 11:05 AM (#2087409) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Big Al Whittle Makes you wonder about those poor old lead miners - btreathing in that crap all the time. is pewter dangerous for every drink then, they must all be a bit acidic? |
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26 Jun 07 - 01:01 PM (#2087494) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne As far as I know, modern pewter is fine for everything but cider. While the other drinks are a bit acidic, cider is VERY acid. It's probably why it disagrees with some people's insides. Love Lynne |
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27 Jun 07 - 01:21 AM (#2087960) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Gurney Some pottery is also dangerous for acidic drinks. Or rather, poor glaze can be leached of poisons. There's lead in some glazes, too. Buy your pottery drinking vessels from a reputable maker. I bought a plant-pot which seemed to be glazed, but the thing was varnished! No, I didn't try to drink from it. I can't drink faster than the hole at the bottom leaks. Before anyone asks. |
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27 Jun 07 - 04:00 AM (#2088026) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: MBSLynne Lol! You're right about glazes, though I believe that a pottery glaze, though it may contain lead, is a lot harder, or more stable or something, than pewter so with less chance of the lead being leached into the drink. I don't think modern pottery glazes do contain lead do they? I think we need some input from Micca here. As a chemist, he should know about these things. Love Lynne |
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27 Jun 07 - 04:03 AM (#2088028) Subject: RE: BS: punkfolkrocker says SORRY.. From: Megan L Gurney yev no got the idea at all ye get someone tae pour the stuff in the top while you lie down comfortably underneath and swallow. Rapidly if you dont want to drown. of course if you are really posh you fit a plastic pipe to the bottom of the pot :) |