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27 Aug 07 - 11:10 AM (#2134491) Subject: BS: I have passed From: rock chick Well after a very hard 18 months I have just been told I have passed my level 3 British Sign Language. Just after starting the course in November I went into hospital, stayed in for around 12 weeks but managed to get 'leave' for the weekends the course was running. I have to say I did not think at times I would get to the end of the course, it was very hard and needed a lot of concentration, which WAS difficult at time, but hey I did it. I don't normally pat myself on the shoulder and say well done but on this occasion I think I can. I am one happy lady, in more ways then one. ;-))) Shelagh. |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:12 AM (#2134493) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Rapparee You have done well, my child. Go forth and make finger signs at all you meet. |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:15 AM (#2134495) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Little Hawk LOL! Still making everyone's day a little more surrealistic, eh, Rap? At first glance, I thought we were gettting a message from a spirit of the departed, but no... Well, that's good news, Shelagh! Congratulations on your accomplishment. |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:18 AM (#2134499) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: rock chick Thanks guys.... oh Rapaire I promise I will only make nice finger signs to all that I meet, well unless they cut me up in the rush hour ;-)) |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:21 AM (#2134507) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: redsnapper Well done rock chick! RS |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:24 AM (#2134512) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Wesley S Way to go Rock Chick. My niece is a translator for her local school district. You are to be commended. |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:25 AM (#2134515) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: jacqui.c Great! |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:08 PM (#2134565) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: rock chick I just can't stop smiling at this moment, i am just so elated right now ;^)) It was so important to get through this exam for many different reasons, but mainly for the work I really love doing. Shelagh |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:09 PM (#2134566) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Herga Kitty Well done Shelagh! Kitty |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:13 PM (#2134570) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Mrs.Duck Congratulations, Shelagh! |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:17 PM (#2134574) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Stilly River Sage Good job! |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:30 PM (#2134588) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Dave the Gnome I watched a local deaf school concert where the choir were signing as well as singing. One little lad at the front was making completely different gestures and when I asked what he was up I was told he was harmonising... I'll get my coat, afer saying Well Done Rock Chick! D. |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:34 PM (#2134592) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Ebbie Great job, Rock Chick. Congratulations. |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:48 PM (#2134600) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: SINSULL Well done! |
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27 Aug 07 - 12:54 PM (#2134604) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Georgiansilver <*{[[]}< Well done |
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27 Aug 07 - 01:26 PM (#2134630) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Megan L Weel done lass |
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27 Aug 07 - 01:29 PM (#2134633) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Still amazed, off out tonight to dance and 'gently' celebrate. |
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27 Aug 07 - 01:40 PM (#2134641) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Leadfingers Have a good time Shelagh - And congratulations ! We'll have a go at Swing Low Sweet Chariot next time we get together ! |
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27 Aug 07 - 01:41 PM (#2134642) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: John MacKenzie Kiss and a hug travelling through cyber space in your direction Shielagh. Giok |
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27 Aug 07 - 01:58 PM (#2134648) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Wow never had a cyber kiss and hug before!!! |
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27 Aug 07 - 02:21 PM (#2134664) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: gnu Atta girl... good on ya!!! |
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27 Aug 07 - 03:55 PM (#2134739) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: fat B****rd Well done. RC. I've started as a"mature" student myself and I must admit I'm a bit lost right now. |
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27 Aug 07 - 04:01 PM (#2134746) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Bee Congratulations! I took a night course once to learn a little ASL, and it was very difficult, even the basics - I don't recall very much of it now, but I certainly applaud you. |
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27 Aug 07 - 06:34 PM (#2134870) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Fat****rd keep at it, and yes it can be hard at first but after a while you will I am sure get back into the swing of it all. I had a great group who were very supportive, so they too have received a HUGE thank you from me. |
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27 Aug 07 - 09:01 PM (#2134964) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Sandra in Sydney congratulations, you've done a lot, especialy with a major illness interrupting your studies. Years ago my office hired sign language interpretors when we had colleagues who could not hear. I remember thinking a shy, reserved person probably couldn't do that job. One of my colleagues learnt Australian Sign Language as she worked with a hearing impaired colleague, & as they became close friends all her family learnt to sign. It was great to see her multilingual (English, Italian, Greek, ASL) 5 year old signing with her aunty. sandra |
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27 Aug 07 - 11:58 PM (#2135033) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: KT Good for you, Rock Chick! You must have a feeling of accomplishment to have achieved that AND relief to have it behind you! It's a beautiful language! |
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28 Aug 07 - 02:29 PM (#2135431) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Liz the Squeak So happy for you dear - what's next?! LTS |
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28 Aug 07 - 05:58 PM (#2135569) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Hi Liz, well a rest for a few months then possibly my pre level 4, just have to ensure I have the engery for it. Shelagh |
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07 Sep 07 - 03:50 AM (#2143089) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,Sarah A BIG well done mum, thought I would also post here, well you always talk about the Mudcat, or you are on it when I pop my head into your office, when you should be working! anyway I thought I would have a look in and surprise you. No this will not be a regular occurance, as the only music I do is to listen to my DVD's. love Sarah XX |
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07 Sep 07 - 04:22 AM (#2143109) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: folk1e Well done girl! I remember being behind a (UK)bus an d watching two kids signing to each other on the back seat. It looked almost musical .... if that makes sense? |
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07 Sep 07 - 04:36 AM (#2143115) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: PMB It does make sense. We used to go to a pub on some Friday nights years ago, just because that was the night deaf people used to gather there for a chat. Animated conversations all round, every now and then everybody would burst out laughing- except us, WE were the profoundly deaf and totally dumb there! |
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07 Sep 07 - 05:12 AM (#2143131) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: open mike i have studied sign language, too. and worked with hearing impaired students. I would recommend this book by Oliver Sachs...Seeing Voices. an interesting study of the differences between the "lip reading" and sign language schools of deaf education. good job! my first experience with sign language was in high school where some of us communicated across the gymnasium at basketball games. (by finger spelling) |
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07 Sep 07 - 05:54 AM (#2143141) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick He he my cheeky daughter, wait to I see her later ;-) Yes I too think sign language is truly a beautiful language, and extremely useful when in noisy places. That is a very interesting book Open mike, that and many others. Yes folk le I can relate to what you say about it looked almost musical. What I believe is interesting is when you apply for a job there can be a section on other languages, asking you to tick any that you speak, I note there is NEVER anything about BSL (British Sign Language) or SSE (Sign Supported English) or any of sign language i.e. Aslan etc etc, I ALWAYS add BSL as this is a recognised language in its own right, it has its own BSL grammar, syntax, construction and multi-channel signs etc. I also add SSE. Oh better stop here or I will go on and on as it's a subject and issue I feel extremely strongly about. |
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07 Sep 07 - 06:11 AM (#2143147) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: MudGuard I clasp my hands together in front of my smiling face and shake them vigorously back and forth. (I hope British sign language is similar to American Sign language) |
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07 Sep 07 - 06:34 AM (#2143155) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Liz the Squeak Whose throat are they round MudGuard?! Even I understand that gesture! LTS |
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07 Sep 07 - 08:09 AM (#2143203) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST No it is different MudGuard, American (ASL) is one handed, BSL is both hands, it also is very regional across the UK, which can make it hard work when travelling, although it isn't normally too difficult. |
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07 Sep 07 - 08:10 AM (#2143204) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Sorry that me 'guest' forgot to sign in above! rc |
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07 Sep 07 - 09:07 AM (#2143231) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: MudGuard I hope the message came across anyway. So Americans just clasp one hand together? ;-) I didn't know there are regional dialects in sign language ... |
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07 Sep 07 - 11:42 AM (#2143327) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Schantieman Well - there are in speech so why not? Well done Shelagh, and lovely to hear from somone who enjoys her work! S |
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08 Sep 07 - 08:57 AM (#2143899) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST Well done Shelagh. Having done a little myself in the past I know how hard it is. Gillie |
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08 Sep 07 - 09:45 AM (#2143924) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Just received my certificate this morning, now it feels more offical, well i received a copy as i dont receive the real thing until the presentation. |
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08 Sep 07 - 10:53 AM (#2143953) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: MudGuard Ok, second attempt: Moving both fists, with thumbs upwards, in vertical circles in front of my chest. |
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08 Sep 07 - 11:50 AM (#2143977) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Mmmm not bad ;-) |
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08 Sep 07 - 05:29 PM (#2144178) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Severn It's always better once you've actually seen the paper. Congradulations! |
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09 Sep 07 - 11:47 AM (#2144634) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Mr Happy As a compulsory school subject, BSL'd be really useful in everyone's life. It's a mystery to be that its not taught more widely as a matter of course |
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09 Sep 07 - 02:33 PM (#2144726) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick I totally agree Mr Happy, some primary schools do teach it, but they are few and far between. It is also taught at Brownies and cubs, I suppose it's a start in the right direction, although it should be a subject the same as any language in schools. This also teaches children at a young age that deafness is not a stigma anymore and is accepted. There is still a lot of discrimination out there, I see this regularly in my work and quite often have to quote the Disability Discrimination Act (DDA) to employers so that the D/deaf person is treated on an equal basis. Sorry going on a bit now, it's a subject I feel passionately about. rc |
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10 Sep 07 - 04:37 AM (#2145206) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Mr Happy ......................& it'd be so useful for everyone in very noisy situations or if you needed to communicate with someone in sight but a long way off. The factory workers in the Lancashire cotton mills developed a system of mouth-signing, perhaps called 'mawking'? I may've misremembered this term. Anyone know it? |
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10 Sep 07 - 05:11 AM (#2145231) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Emma B John the expression you're looking for is mee-mawing we used this at home when children were accused of mouthing words behind someones back! |
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10 Sep 07 - 05:26 AM (#2145241) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick This is very interesting Mr Happy, I have just read the article Emma B and have printed it to keep with my files, its surprising what can be found. Thanks for this. rc |
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10 Sep 07 - 05:53 AM (#2145263) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: Mr Happy Thanks M!! 8-) |
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13 Sep 07 - 12:03 PM (#2148404) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,Norval Congratulations Rock Chick! I stumbled on this CBC news article which may be of interest to you. I'm not sure how long the link will stay up so it's content is pasted below. Virtual Interpreter Turns Speech into Sign Language Last Updated: Thursday, September 13, 2007 | 9:21 AM ET IBM has developed a computer program that can translate the spoken word into sign language and then sign it out using an an animated digital figure, or avatar. The system, unveiled on Wednesday, could pave the way for commercial technology that allows presenters or educators to give lectures that can be accessible to the deaf when no live sign language interpreter is available. Developed at IBM labs in Hursley, England, SiSi uses British Sign Language (BSL), which an estimated 55,000 people in the U.K. use as their first language, the company said. Andy Stanford-Clark, IBM Hursley's master inventor, said the technology has the potential to make life easier for the deaf community by providing automatic signing for television, radio, the internet and voicemail transcription when using mobile devices. IBM cautions that the Say It Sign It (SiSi) system is still a prototype and is not yet available commercially, though IBM expects to expand the product to use other sign languages. It also hopes to include it as a feature in the deaf-accessibility products of other vendors. SiSi first converts the spoken word into text using speech recognition software and then converts those words into sign language, which are then displayed by an onscreen avatar. The use of a character, instead of text as used in close captioning, allows deaf users to see the words in a visual manner more familiar to them. Guido Gybels, the director of new technologies at the Royal National Institute for Deaf and Hard of Hearing People (RNID), welcomed the system as a good first step to bringing services and products to a disenfranchised segment of the population. "There is clearly still a long way to go before such prototypes become fully capable, off-the-shelf products, but it is encouraging to see that mainstream research is contributing to this objective of a more inclusive society," he said in a statement. (Photo Caption:) An IBM avatar translates the spoken word 'performance' into the corresponding sign from British Sign Language. The new technology allows a person giving a presentation to have a digital figure projected behind them signing what they are saying. (IBM) |
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14 Sep 07 - 09:36 AM (#2149062) Subject: RE: BS: I have passed From: GUEST,rock chick Wow now that is extremly intresting, i have kept it on file as i have a web site where this sort of information would be extremly useful to people out there. A ver big thank you for sending it. Rc |