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A little vintage Art Thieme

06 Sep 07 - 08:08 PM (#2142893)
Subject: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

A few weeks ago I recorded off the air part of a set Art Thieme performed on November 4, 1979 at a benefit for Michael Cooney at Stages Music Hall in Chicago. Here's a 13.5 minute MP3 -- not very well recorded, I'm afraid -- consisting of:

The Sioux Indians performance is the one included on the marvelous collection of Art's live performances titled Chicago Town & Points West: Folk-Legacy CD-135, available here .

06 Sep 07 - 08:54 PM (#2142927)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Janie

Enjoyed that immensely! Thanks BK. (And thanks Art:>)

06 Sep 07 - 09:29 PM (#2142947)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: SINSULL

Thank you Art and BK. Wonderful stuff.

07 Sep 07 - 12:41 AM (#2143037)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Amos

Man, Art, you're an easy guy to listen to!

A

07 Sep 07 - 12:12 PM (#2143350)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

B.K.,----thanks for putting this here. I guess, the older I get, the better I was!

Art

07 Sep 07 - 06:47 PM (#2143590)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie)

You're still the best, Art! And I still remember when we first met, at a coffeehouse in...was it Minnesota? I was really impressed that you were on the bill with me...and how much we laughed when you told the turtle drive story...now you're gonna say that my memory is all mixed up, and it probably is- but the memory's still a good one. Thanks Jean

07 Sep 07 - 07:06 PM (#2143605)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

The older I get, the better I was

13 Sep 07 - 08:09 PM (#2148644)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Art sent me a CD containing all of the two sets he did at that benefit and I'm replacing the excerpt I first put up with the following MP3 files.

It's prety darn wonderful stuff.

13 Sep 07 - 09:25 PM (#2148693)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

Man, my apologies, Art!!! Sorry it took me so long to get in here! Wonderful work, BK, thanks!!

I off until Tuesday, but will have time to listen more when I get back.

Thanks, Art, for your beautiful, wonderful music!

luvyakat

14 Sep 07 - 09:29 PM (#2149586)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

I suppose I can always count on Kat for a spirit boost if I need one. ;-)
Kat, I'm glad you like some of the old work I did.

Bruce, thanks for putting this here where any interested in it can find it. On we go.

14 Sep 07 - 09:57 PM (#2149602)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dave Zeman

Wow I haven't been to this forum in ages... just tonight I had a night off from the normal stuff picked up the guitar played one of my favorite songs of Utah Phillips, I remember lovin you, and then tried my best to remember Nevada Jane, and after my wife sang three lines, then I was back into it... then did an old stand by that I learned from you Art.. (Or at least that tab book I bought from Fritz) Railroad Blues and Nine Pound Hammer... because of you I can do a train whistle... one more time....

Why I'm here and why I had to search MudCat... Fritz Shuler did a song that went, "I'll be there in the morning if I will, I'll be there if I won't get killed...." "...My baby lives in a ____, but it's a brickhouse just the same..." I remember the chorus and one verse...

What song was that?

btw... I maintain a songwriting blog at http://www.myspace.com/davezeman

14 Sep 07 - 10:35 PM (#2149621)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Ron Davies

O man o man, what great stuff! Art, it sounds like you're smiling with every word.

15 Sep 07 - 10:11 AM (#2149824)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dave Zeman

Wow... just listened to a few of those posted songs... takes me back... Lori and I still sing the Touch me song.... I guess when you have cats. ;-)

Dave

15 Sep 07 - 10:45 AM (#2149846)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

You think this stuff is good? Well, it sure as hell is, but you should try sharing the stage with this guy. We did a humor workshop at a Hartford folk festival many years ago, and it is still a high point in my life. Thanks for being who you are my friend.

16 Sep 07 - 03:30 PM (#2150598)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Dave, We were just in Manitowoc for a week---staying with Crol's brother and his wife. They came down here to Peru and drove us and my chair to and fro. And for 3 days I sat and schmoozed with Fritz and Mary in their "Golden Ring Music And Folklore Center!" What a treat it was now that I'm not around the music to any extent. Check with Fritz; we might be up to doing it again next year.

Kendall, I too remember that workshop well. Sorry for stealing so many of your tales and jokes!

Jean, I think I first met you in either Rockford, Illinois or maybe La Crosse, Wisconsin---the Great River Folk Festival. (Maybe a time it rained and the festival was brought indoors.) You did the opening concert I seem to trecall!?

Or was it at the Quiet Knight folk club in Chicago---in the 1970s?
Who knows? I think I did open for you there. Richard Hading's place.

Also on the bill for that banefit for Michael Cooney was Steve Goodman, Cindy Mangsen, and a guy named Pete Seeger. Just us 4.

Art

16 Sep 07 - 03:34 PM (#2150604)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger

Art, we are all fans. Your performances are classic.

Frank Hamilton

16 Sep 07 - 05:15 PM (#2150671)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

Your puns are a riot too. ..lock moss nesters indeed!

16 Sep 07 - 09:15 PM (#2150791)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Art -- and Cindy was joined by Anne Hills and Steve was joined by Jethro Burns.

16 Sep 07 - 09:34 PM (#2150811)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

And Bob Gibson and Allan Damron were in on the finale of "Mama Don't Allow."

Pete had a terrible cold that day and couldn't sing much at all. Steve Goodman just TOOK OVER when he had to and everybody seemed to enjoy the show. Pete sang one line of a song, motioned to the audience to join him like he does, and everyone DID. Pretty soon the song was over. Then he did an instrumental or two. Or we all joined Pete...
Stage's Music Hall was sold out for both the day show and the night show. Good memories, for sure.

Art

17 Sep 07 - 07:32 PM (#2151497)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Brendy

Excellent stuff, Art. Thanks for that BK.

B.

19 Sep 07 - 09:23 PM (#2153125)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

21 Sep 07 - 08:25 PM (#2154633)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: David Zeman

Dang... I wish I knew you were going to be in Manty... I would have traveled back.. give me an excuse to see my family again.

Hope Fritz and Mary are doing fine.

Dave

21 Sep 07 - 10:38 PM (#2154705)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Dan Keding

Art,

As always, your music made me realize what a treasure we have in you. Your like an old ballad - each time I hear you I hear something new, something I missed the first time that just makes the song come alive again.

Take care my friend and we'll meet down the road soon.

Dan

22 Sep 07 - 11:12 AM (#2154933)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

Good way to describe our Fine Art, Dan.

Art, just listening, again. Still my very favourite, esp. that "Martin" saw!

luvyakat

22 Sep 07 - 11:46 AM (#2154952)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: nutty

Didn't manage to hear the MP3 - sorry Art.

But was hugely entertained by the manic depressive web server - that really should be commercialised.

22 Sep 07 - 04:51 PM (#2155127)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Oops, sorry 'bout that -- I'd removed the original MP3 from the server when I put up the later ones. I've fixed things so clicking on the link in my original post will now redirect you to post number 8 instead of the manic depressive web server's 404 message.

22 Sep 07 - 11:26 PM (#2155411)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Whew, Dan, ALWAYS, thanks for that, and for your friendship through the last 30 years. People, Dan Keding is a grand storyteller of world wide repute. He has written the storytelling column in Sing Out! magazine every issue for many years.
Daniel, it was great seeing you and Tandy recently. Love to you both.

Bruce, I wasn't aware of any of that, but whatever went down, I'm sure you're on top of it. Thanks!
People: B.K. is the one on whose website my folk scene photos are exhibited. Once again, he recently added a couple hundred of the photos I took the decade I played music on the Mississippi River.

All the best to you all,
Art

26 Sep 07 - 08:17 PM (#2158135)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: chazkratz

Art, I've had Chicago, Wilderness Road, and That's the Ticket in my car stereo for the last couple of weeks listening to them over and over in joy and wonder at your ability to bring a song to life and tell a story--and at your terrific banjo frailing. The Older I Get... is around the house somewhere, and when I find it it'll join the others in my iTunes and then in my car--and also, somewhere around the house, is the tape you sent me when I was trying to find the lyrics and tune for Fare Thee Titanic (gargoyle sent me the words at about the same time). That tape also has the herding turtles story--an absolute classic!

What is B.K.'s website with all your pictures?

Great to see you are still around Mudcat as master of the sheepfold.

Charles(--seed)

26 Sep 07 - 09:47 PM (#2158169)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Here are Art's People, Places, and River Years Photos. clicky here

27 Sep 07 - 12:37 AM (#2158251)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Charles, Thanks so much. I'm glad you're enjoying my stuff. I surely did enjoy doing it during those productive years. I remember your being here at Mudcat around '98 -- when I'd just found this site. It really was a needed quenching oasis for me.
Bruce, again, I'm grateful for all you've done.

Art

10 Feb 08 - 12:42 AM (#2258223)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

I love that line that "it took Studs 500 pages" to say what that one folksong line said. :)

10 Feb 08 - 06:55 AM (#2258303)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

Brevity is the soul of wit.

10 Feb 08 - 10:32 AM (#2258422)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Amos

Art Thieme, you are TOO good. I jes' love yer stuff all to bits.

A

10 Feb 08 - 09:02 PM (#2259036)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Charley Noble

Thanks for refreshing this thread.

Charley Noble

10 Feb 08 - 09:06 PM (#2259042)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: catspaw49

Actually Kendall, I tend to go along with Dorothy Parker who modified that to say, "Brevity is the soul of lingerie."

Spaw

10 Feb 08 - 09:24 PM (#2259056)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

You would, Spaw! LOL!

Thanks, SRS, for the refresh!

10 Feb 08 - 10:35 PM (#2259101)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

It linked from another thread or I'd never have found it.

10 Feb 08 - 11:18 PM (#2259111)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Ebbie

Art, your songs are a joy. Thanks, BK.

11 Feb 08 - 04:38 PM (#2259774)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger

Great stuff! Love Art's work. I downloaded 'em and got 'em in iTunes now. Thanks.
Good selection of songs and witty patter. His humanity comes through so well.

Frank Hamilton

11 Feb 08 - 04:40 PM (#2259777)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stringsinger

BK Thanks for sending us the mp3's. Great to have them.

Frank Hamilton

12 Feb 08 - 12:15 AM (#2260086)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,Alex

Well, Some time ago (18+ months) I sent Sandy Patton an original tape of an Art Thieme concert video from the 1990's with a request for him to market it to Art's benefit. It was VHS with good audio. Perhaps petitions and subscription offers to Sandy might make this a possible video offering? Sandy - it's in your court!

12 Feb 08 - 01:21 AM (#2260114)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Lonesome EJ

Good tunes, Art! Except for the excruciating Loch Moss Nester joke, you're the greatest!

12 Feb 08 - 11:30 PM (#2261086)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

"Amy Carter took up skiing so she could go downhill with her dad."

Groan

18 Feb 08 - 12:59 PM (#2265465)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

More to groan over this morning, when I found a CD from Art in my post office box. "Studs Turtle" indeed!

Thanks, Art! :)

That got me looking. I did a Mudcat Forum search on "Art Thieme" and find an avalanche of stuff, including (apparently) all of his 5000+ posts--all good, but takes a long time to go through. Is there a way to search ONLY the thread titles for his name, to narrow it down to the threads started by others, with quotes, remarks, discography, bibliography info, etc.? I'm sure I'm forgetting a step. I don't have them all traced in my list (and that's pretty long, over all of these years).

SRS

18 Feb 08 - 05:17 PM (#2265704)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: topical tom

Wonderful music and banter, Art!Thanks so much, BK, for providing such terrific, enduring folk music.

25 May 08 - 03:28 PM (#2348928)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Abby Sale

Oh, horsepuckey, goddammn & phutt! I knew about this thread in September and didn't get to it. My only excuse is a blind, drunk, stupid (lady) driver in a van who was talking on the phone, doing her nails and chatting with her children in the back run me down just a week before. Plain run me over while I was out legally & safely (& even soberly - never drink and roll, friends) Rollerblading. I don't blame you for not believing me but I never would lie to my good friends. My URL: myspace.com/abbysale

Well, it was worth the pain just to finally catch this thread and some more terrific Thieminess. There couldn't be too much.

Thanks, Art.

Abby

25 May 08 - 10:45 PM (#2349118)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Abby's URL

25 May 08 - 11:05 PM (#2349124)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

SRS asked: "is there a way to search ONLY the thread titles for his name, to narrow it down to the threads started by others..."
Sure -- just enter "art thieme" into the Filter box, select "Age: all" from the pull down menu, and click on "Refresh."

26 May 08 - 06:05 AM (#2349246)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: JohnInKansas

BK -

With the present setup, "art thieme" in the filter box and age "all" will get you the first thousand threads that have both "art" and "thieme" in the title. The list returned is limited to 1,000 threads now. ("Age: all" with no filter word(s) now gets only about 2 weeks worth.)

I guess it will take some "research" to see if that's sufficient to get all the places he's been cussed and discussed here (by name), although it should be a good start. There may be a few threads with just "Art" and/or just things like "the ESTEEMED AND HONORABLE MR THIEME" that would be missed with that search as well.

We heard a rumor that there was some guy gonna write up an autobigliogligraphy, so some may have figured that the guy who's gonna do it should do most of the work; but in the absence of any report on that work, maybe we need to do some diggin' around to help out(?).

John

26 May 08 - 02:41 PM (#2349488)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

JohnInKansas --

That ain't the way it works for me -- I get these 50 thread titles, dating back to 1999:


  A little vintage Art Thieme         49        26 May 08 - 06:05 AM 
  Art Thieme contact info?         16        15 May 08 - 11:01 PM 
  Art Thieme's CD: The Older I Get, The Better I Was         109* d        20 Mar 08 - 05:53 PM 
  Art Thieme Offline for a while         154* d        26 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM 
  Happy Birthday, Art Thieme!!!         47        12 Jul 07 - 08:11 PM 
  Review: Art Thieme Rides Again         5        04 Jun 07 - 07:46 PM 
  Art Thieme Recordings - Now on CD!         55* d        11 Apr 07 - 04:36 PM 
  Art Thieme's computer has died         37        08 Nov 06 - 12:49 PM 
  Art Thieme in Boston Globe (8/18/06)         41        16 Sep 06 - 06:15 PM 
  Art Thieme at Fox Valley Folk & Storytelling Fest         6        07 Sep 06 - 10:38 PM 
  BS: Happy birthday Art Thieme         55* d        14 Jul 06 - 12:31 PM 
  Art Thieme-new CD out on Folk Legacy!!!         61* d        18 May 06 - 10:01 PM 
  Beautiful write-up on Art Thieme         62* d        27 Feb 06 - 09:47 PM 
  BS: Art Thieme - a question for you         12        30 Jan 06 - 04:50 PM 
  Song samples & notes for Art Thiemes NEW CD         11        18 Oct 05 - 11:26 AM 
  Chord Req: State of Illinois (Art Thieme)         9        18 Oct 05 - 01:00 AM 
  Smithsonian solicits Art Thieme's photos         24        03 Oct 05 - 11:28 AM 
  Happy Birthday To Art Thieme         63* d        10 Jul 05 - 08:45 PM 
  Happy! - July 9 (Art Thieme)         1        09 Jul 05 - 09:50 AM 
  Art Thieme off line for move/renovation         17        09 May 05 - 01:07 PM 
  Art Thieme back on line...Nov. 11, 04         25        14 Nov 04 - 02:51 PM 
  Art Thieme's offline for a bit         11        01 Nov 04 - 04:56 PM 
  New Art Thieme material! 7 Feb.         21        15 Feb 04 - 09:54 AM 
  Art Thieme Discography?         3        26 Jan 04 - 07:41 AM 
  THANK YOU from Art Thieme !!!!         23        25 Jan 04 - 03:49 PM 
  Art's back! Welcome back Art Thieme         18        02 Dec 03 - 07:51 AM 
  Art Thieme says Hi!!!         6        26 Nov 03 - 12:28 AM 
  Art Thieme's Music On Radio - Nov. 15th         2        11 Nov 03 - 11:25 AM 
  Concert Hall Named in Art Thieme's honor-6 June!         38        09 Jun 03 - 03:31 PM 
  Tech: Looks like Art Thieme's computer is down         37        02 May 03 - 04:58 PM 
  Art Thieme & Utah Phillips: Honor 'Em!         11        15 Apr 03 - 10:55 AM 
  Good on you, Art Thieme!         23        15 Apr 03 - 07:05 AM 
  Art Thieme, Historian         42        20 Dec 02 - 12:42 PM 
  BS: Portraying an 'Art Thieme' in calendar         3        07 Dec 02 - 12:59 AM 
  BS: I may have known Art Thieme         4        24 Nov 02 - 10:34 PM 
  Art Thieme At Fox Valley Festival         12        06 Sep 02 - 10:20 PM 
  Message from Art Thieme         17        11 Aug 02 - 07:38 PM 
  ART THIEME gets LIFETIME Achievement Award!!         61* d        23 Jul 02 - 04:38 PM 
  BS: Happy Birthday, Art Thieme!         51* d        09 Jul 01 - 11:02 PM 
  ART THIEME's Humour in Reader's Digest         24        02 Jul 01 - 11:42 PM 
  Lyr Add: Impeachment Time In Georgia (Art Thieme)         33        01 Oct 00 - 12:46 AM 
  HAPPY BIRTHDAY ART THIEME & OTHERS!!         34        11 Jul 00 - 06:46 PM 
  Art Thieme's gem         18        09 Jul 00 - 12:00 AM 
  BS: Yo, Art Thieme         5        06 Mar 00 - 12:21 PM 
  art thieme/valdy         11        20 Jan 00 - 08:46 PM 
  Congrats to Art Thieme         41        07 Jan 00 - 10:27 AM 
  Art Thieme's 'Outright, Boldfaced Lies'         11        31 Dec 99 - 03:04 AM 
  Art Thieme's 'On The River' - Auction         7        04 Nov 99 - 08:08 PM 
  Art Thieme, Allen C.         70* d        20 Aug 99 - 07:00 PM 
  WYO NPR Features new Art Thieme CD!         7        13 Feb 99 - 05:39 PM

There are "Trace links" making it easy to trace all 50 theads.

26 May 08 - 04:33 PM (#2349574)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: JohnInKansas

BK -

That IS THE WAY it works for you.

If fifty threads are all there are, then you get them all. The total number of threads that the filter will return is 1,000 - or fewer. (You're welcome to assume I was just kiddin' Art that there might be more than 1,000 threads about him - if you wish. Actually I wasn't too sure, since we talk about him quite a lot.)

Your search shows that there are fewer than a thousand threads that contain both art and thieme. I'd suggest filtering just for Art and then just for Thieme as well, and then for any other names someone might have called him - including misspelled Theime etc - if you think of one or two(?). Either of these should get the fifty that contain both names, plus (esp for Art) a lot of extraneous junk.

The hard part could be finding any threads where he or his works have been talked about, but where his name isn't in the thread title, since the stuff inside threads is only searchable via indexes that may not be up to date. There may not actually be any - but you don't really know until you look (and with an indexed search you don't really know after you look, unless you know that the term you searched on is an "index term").

Art has been pretty good about visiting and commenting in any threads that refer to him, so a cross-check of his posts could be revealing, if there are any other threads of interest. (There may not be any.) There have been a few fairly extended periods when he's been "off the cat" and might have missed a thread, but usually they've come back frequently enough, or some one tells him about them, so that he'd likely have caught most - if not all - of them.

John

26 May 08 - 04:36 PM (#2349578)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

Way back when, I started copying and pasting Thiemeism and asked folks to PM with any they might spot. I lost all that I had on an old PC. I now have a small file of recent ones. I had thought it would be a nice collection to publish online or in a booklet...all with Art's permission, of course. From an old thread:

had asked Art for permission to collect his stuff off the Mudcat and put them in booklet form a couple of years ago. I didn't go public with it, but did ask a few others to let me know whenever they spotted a "good 'un" so I could include it...

Of course, IMO, it would be even better if Art was up to dictating a book, directly, and like MMario I would love to help transcribe. I would just like to see the Treasures of Fine Art be preserved and shared and I know there is a LOT more in his noggin than has been posted here!

I'm still willing if anyone wants to send me links, etc. AND, if Art wants to dictate. Art, I've got the software that Chris could set up for you to dictate.:-)

26 May 08 - 05:57 PM (#2349624)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

John, SRS asked a very specific question which I answered -- simply and correctly, I think. Your response, addressed to me, seemed to suggest that I had somehow failed to answer the question properly. I'm not sure what you're on about.

Those 50 threads, by the way, contain many riches -- I recommend tracing and browsing them all at your leisure. The 20 Aug 99 thread, for example, contains Frank Hamilton's heart-warming welcome from several Catters he had lost touch with.

28 May 08 - 03:59 PM (#2351293)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Abby Sale

Art & BK, thank you sincerely for the jokes. To me, aside from being fine laughating, they're potential gags. Sometimes I have to wait 30 or more years to use a gag - that is, naturally without any artificiality or setup. And this I did in just a few days!

In a lawyer's office today - exciting practice: wills, estate planning, "living wills," like that. Old school, old southern, staid, deadpan lawyer.

Literally, not one word of improvement on the facts, I swear:

While he's out of the room I notice on the desk a tri-folded letter -


                            UNC School of Dentistry
                          Faculty of Dental Practice
  
                       APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATION NOTICE
  
     Lawyer's name
     Address

That's all I could see.

So when he returned, of course I said, "I happened to see a letter on your desk - of course I didn't open it but it seems you've been appointed to UNC Dental School." (He startled slightly that someone had observed something. I let him startle.)

"That's great...I understand Dental Law's a terrific specialty." (Take a few beats - just enough for him to slowly react & smile, not quite enough to get his mouth all the way open.)

"There are such big retainers."

And he laughed out loud.

I though his face would crack.

My day made in spite of the fee. (He didn't reduce it.)

Thanks again.

07 Mar 09 - 05:42 AM (#2583156)
Subject: A little more vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Art sent me a compilation of what he regards as the best of his two Kicking Mule LPs
Outright Boldface Lies (KM-150) and Songs Of The Heartland (KM-148)
and with his OK I've put them on my webspace.

07 Mar 09 - 10:31 AM (#2583286)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

It is posts like this featuring the work of a master that will influence younger folks to keep our music alive. Thank you so much it is priceless

07 Mar 09 - 01:25 PM (#2583364)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Bill D

Thanks, BK, those are great, as were the earlier ones.... but it did take me a bit to get them to play. The links say 'MP3', and my browser was told to play MP3 with one specific program. It said it couldn't do it. When downloaded, the files say "mpeg", and then I have choices of other programs which play the files just fine. Mpeg is 'usually' an indication of a video file.
Sometimes one's default program will recognize a file internally and not be confused by the extension...and sometimes it will just look at it and say "I don't do those".

If anyone else has a problem playing them, this may be the problem.

(and thank YOU, Art, for letting us hear all those classics....)

07 Mar 09 - 03:45 PM (#2583431)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

Came up real easily and played in my Windows Media Player.

07 Mar 09 - 04:13 PM (#2583456)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Bill D

I guess WMP will play both formats and sort them out. I haven't used it in years. I suppose many folks will have WMP as their default.

07 Mar 09 - 04:32 PM (#2583472)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

I listened to a couple on line, then gave up clicking on each one and put the CD in. :)

07 Mar 09 - 04:36 PM (#2583474)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Peace

Illustrated Art Thieme discography

Google the above. I do not know if that's been posted to Mudcat before. If so, well, it's been posted again.

08 Mar 09 - 01:21 AM (#2583679)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Yes, Peace, it was posted here a week ago, giving a blue clicky to the discography.

08 Mar 09 - 01:44 AM (#2583681)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

I'm pretty amazed by all that keeps on happening on this thread. BK, as always, unbelievable work you've done. Again, thank you!!

The reason I included the songs I did on the favorites compilation, aside from those being many of my actual favorites from the 2 K.M. LPs, I did not want to include songs that were issued by Sandy or Andrew Calhoun--etc. Red Iron Ore, Walkie In The Parlor, Robin Hood's Death. When I saw those were not going to come out on a CD from Kicking Mule, I re-did 'em for Folk Legacy and Waterbug. Eventually, Kicking Mule was sold to Fantasy lock, stock and barrel. And now somebody else has 'em. On we go.

Thanks to everyone. Your comments are certainly appreciated.

Love to all,

Art

08 Mar 09 - 06:55 AM (#2583755)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Jerry Rasmussen

Always great to hear you, Art! And thanks so much for the magazine.

Love,

Jerry

08 Mar 09 - 11:30 AM (#2583874)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

Good to see all of this continuing. Your KM albums are some of my favourites of yours!

08 Mar 09 - 12:51 PM (#2583922)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

I sent a note to a local radio DJ who always asks for suggestions to play on his eclectic program on Sunday nights. I didn't recommend a particular song because I wasn't sure which to tell him. Every time his banjo comes on I think "I could have recommended this one, the banjo is so great" and others I think that for the great guitar or musical saw or mouth harp. . . but for all of that great accompaniment, it's Art's voice that really pulls you in and holds your attention. So whatever he picks, it'll be good!

SRS

08 Mar 09 - 05:26 PM (#2584120)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Who is that with you on Down By The Embarrass -- Ann Hills, maybe?

08 Mar 09 - 05:31 PM (#2584126)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: gnu

Priceless period

08 Mar 09 - 05:44 PM (#2584139)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: katlaughing

And, Fine Art, even!:-)

08 Mar 09 - 07:00 PM (#2584188)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

BK,
That is Cindy Mangsen.
Art

24 May 09 - 03:01 AM (#2639732)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Refresh: verb [T]
to give new energy and strength to (someone)
A little more vintage Art Thieme

24 May 09 - 09:00 AM (#2639807)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

Thank you, I wasn't around mudcat when the thread first started
priceless thank you

Dan

02 Jun 09 - 02:31 PM (#2646703)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,kjersti

Thank you BK and Art for sharing these songs that have not been put on CD. I grew up with my parents playing Out-Right Bold-Faced Lies to my sister and me. She loved the Great Turtle Drive story so well she learned it and has since told it in bars herself.

I'm just a little sad though, because I'm getting a 404 error for Nine Pound Hammer/Railroad Blues and that was one of my favorites. I'd love to hear it again, please.

Thanks again for making all of these available.

-kjersti

02 Jun 09 - 04:38 PM (#2646831)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

Well if Art will allow me, I will post it so you can hear it again
I will ask him

02 Jun 09 - 07:29 PM (#2646975)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Fine with me, Dan. Thanks for your trouble.

Art

02 Jun 09 - 08:10 PM (#2647003)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

Kjerski
I will post Arts song when I get back to my office on friday
for you I will post the link here where you can hear it

Dan

02 Jun 09 - 08:19 PM (#2647011)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

By the way, if you folks haven't heard Art doing
"on the Santa Fe Trail" you don't know what you are missing. His claw hammer banjo is superb and the song is a 10 out of 10 . Nothing short of AMAZING

02 Jun 09 - 08:38 PM (#2647018)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Sorry! It's fixed now.

02 Jun 09 - 10:59 PM (#2647080)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,kjersti

Thanks so much guys! You work fast.

Art, I'm really glad that you are documenting your years playing. I was thrilled when I first found this forum.

03 Jun 09 - 12:00 AM (#2647099)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Kjersti,

Thanks for your kind words. This Mudcat place really is a grand oasis for me, a place where I can add my voice to some fine discussions of the music we care a lot about here. These days it's been a kind of lifeline for me. Stay around. Some can be feisty, but mostly grand things go on here.

One question: Do I know you?

All the best,
Art

03 Jun 09 - 07:49 PM (#2647802)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

Art, I found your site a while back...Art's Place ...and your discography page too..Art's Music but, I can't find a Myspace page for you.

I even found THIS!

The Old Blue Bus Blog (try saying that after a few beers!) ;0)

And from there, come these inspirational words about your music:

"Art Thieme is a living national treasure. His puns, stories, sense of humor, and collection of folk songs are as comfortable as a well worn pair of walking shoes. His voice and instrumental work are so natural that when you hear him perform a song, it sounds like an old favorite, even if you've never heard it before.

The Rock River Valley, along the Illinois border with Wisconsin, is where Art Thieme was raised and sparked his life-long love of folk music. I believe Art could play anything, and I do mean anything. His main instrument is the guitar, including his unique nine-string guitar, but he also plays old time banjo, musical saw, nose flute, jaw harp and who knows what all. He has collected an amazing amount of folksongs of the Midwest, and preserved them through his recordings.

Art, along with friends, Fred Holstein, Steve Goodman and John Prine, were the driving force in the Chicago folk music scene in the 1960s and 70s. He taught at the famous Old Town School of Folk Music, wrote articles for the legendary "Come for to Sing" magazine, hosted a radio program, and performed at Chicago's No Exit coffeehouse for 37 years.

I've seen Art Thieme perform several times, the last being well over a decade ago in Fort Atkinson, Wisconsin. His live performances harken back to when folk music was an era, a way of life. Unfortunately, Art had to stop performing years ago due to Multiple Sclerosis, but with the help of Sandy Patton of Folk-Legacy Records, he has recently released a new CD of live recordings. For long time fans, you'll know most of the songs, but if you know Art, you know he never performed any song the same way twice. For those of you not familiar with this Midwest troubadour, this CD is a chance to experience one of the best storyteller/singers of the folk era."

And I'm sitting here listening to your songs, on the link above, just heard 'Titanic' and 'Shanty Boy on the Big Eau Claire' found the tale of Sue, the milliner's daughter and her love, the Shanty Boy, and heard their sad story...and now I've got 'The Rock River Valley' on, and suddenly Abe Lincoln's there, alongside goblins, trains, starry nights, 'summer beebuzzed pollen days' (beautiful) and the dreams of a young boy that took flight, as he lay in his bed, in that valley he loved so much...

And well.....it just kinda struck me...that when someone writes such words as these....

"Art Thieme is a living national treasure. His puns, stories, sense of humor, and collection of folk songs are as comfortable as a well worn pair of walking shoes. His voice and instrumental work are so natural that when you hear him perform a song, it sounds like an old favorite, even if you've never heard it before...."

....well, your music and your songs mean a lot to people and a Myspace page with some of your songs on would be great to have 'out there'

Lizzie :0)

03 Jun 09 - 08:50 PM (#2647839)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

And Art you know I would be delighted to make a myspace page for you should that be something you want to do

Dan

04 Jun 09 - 01:49 PM (#2648358)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Elijah Browning

There's been talk about a Wikipedia page for Art. I for one think he sure deserves one. Never written one myself. Anyone else have that expertise? Might help clarify the details or keep the mystique as he sees fit. There were a few details on his childhood that I know are not accurate in the Blue Bus Blog entry. Still, the hearts in the right place and the imagery is sometimes more pleasant than the facts. Whether it's MySpace/Facebook or a Wiki page, these should have Art's ok. Don't mean to speak for him, but I'm sure he doesn't want an unauthorized digital biography.

04 Jun 09 - 04:40 PM (#2648508)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

For sure there are some details in the very nice summary of my doings that don't jibe with the truth o' it. For one, there was no rural Rock River Valley in my childhood at all. That myth may have started because one of the 3 songs I ever wrote is named "The Rock River Valley" -- and it concerns a boy growing up there. The truth is that I pulled that song out of my imagination one beauteous and sunny day when I was hiking in Northern Illinois. When any of us were singing at a great folk club in Rockford, Illinois called Charlotte's Web we'd be put up at an old farmhouse outside of town. The next town over, a couple of miles away, was Rockton, Illinois where there was a small place on Main St., Dora's Kitchen, that made the best apple pie I'd ever tasted. Thoughts of that just about perfect delicacy were magnetizing me onward through the green and growing Rock River Valley, and I did eat two servings of Dora's pie that afternoon. (We never awoke from the doings of the night before until noon, at least, back then.)

On the way back to Bill and Karen Howard's spare farmhouse for meandering folksingers, I sat down by the river, and that little song sort of erupted from my innards like a balky hairball shot from the jaws of Jack Kerouac---our cat. --- I suspect that was probably the start of any myth out there about my beginnings being rural.

Actually, I grew up in an apartment in a high-rise building in Chicago! Any rural-ness in me was acquired later from spending vacations with my aunt and uncle in Dekalb, Illinois.

And I'm left wondering if this "Elijah Browning guy might be, actually, our son, Chris, who is having his 39th birthday TODAY---June 4th---even as we speak!!!!!!----- He's the only one who has mentioned this Wicked-pedophile thing to me---whatever that is. --- I'll take a chance: hris, Tried to call today and only got your answering machine! HAPPY BI
RTHDAY!!!!
We love you and Kat and the kids more than we can say.. (But you know that!!) ---

04 Jun 09 - 06:56 PM (#2648619)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,CupOfTea, No Cookies

Egad, Art!

Vacation in DeKalb??? That was decades before Cindy Crawford was working her way through high school detasseling corn, what on earth did you DO there? That was likely even before the Cornfest and the famed "Jello Plunge" too!

(a fond yank of yer chain)
Joanne in Cleveland who USED to be Joanne in DeKalb in Grad School (and still has flying ears of corn plastered all over autoharp & concertina case & music books)

04 Jun 09 - 09:54 PM (#2648697)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Dekalb? Lets see!

1949 or so--my aunt and uncle's house was on Route 38--Lincoln Highway--about 2 blocks from the big old cement post office where, as a kid, I disturbed a hornet's nest and got stung maybe 100 times before I could run home. A package liquor store is where that house stood. NIU was called the Northern Illinois State Teachers College then. The big pond by the Linc. Hwy. entrance was where we would go ice skating. It froze solid almost every winter back then; winters always seemed much colder back in the 1940s. I discovered the Hardy Boys books about that time and bought every one I could get with my meager allowance. --- Jolly's Toggery was a men's store there then, and the newspaper was on the corner of First Street I think it was---near the PRINCE CASTLE ice cream place--and Ben Gordon's Hardware Store was further down past the railroad tracks that split downtown in two. I remember Ben Gordon, a friend of my uncle's, being a great guy who was always smiling. Joe Katz auto dealer was downtown too. And the theater with the mummies downtown--just amazing. The guy's house who invented barbed wire! One day, right downtown, I saw the hobo called Side Door Pullman drop off a boxcar, walk into the greasy spoon I was drinking a Coke in, and sit down next to me at the counter! Side Door later became King Of The Hobos in Britt, Iowa --- and he just passed away a year or two ago.

Many a memory still travels with me from those few summers and Christmas vacations I spent in Dekalb--before my uncle moved his factory operation to Evansville, Indiana.-----But that's another story...

Art

05 Jun 09 - 12:32 AM (#2648757)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Elijah Browning

You'll never see C.T. and E.B. in the same place at the same time. Kind of like Superman and Clark Kent expcept without the superpowers or the posh writing gig. Although I have been found half-dressed in a phone booth before. So how 'bout it? Anyone out there have Wiki-experience? If not, I'll give it a stab with Art's permission. I'll wait to hear from my betters first (meaning those of you that have lived through those times).

07 Jun 09 - 07:08 PM (#2650876)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,kjersti

Hi Art,

Nope, you don't know me. I don't think I've even got to see you play live. If I did I was probably less than 2. But I do appreciate your music and your being online here.

Thanks again,
Kjersti

08 Jun 09 - 08:13 AM (#2651213)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,harpgirl

Hi Art,
You really must join facebook. You get daily feeds about what everyone is doing and can talk to them. Marcy and Cathy are active on it. I think you would really enjoy it. I met Chris Kastle at the Florida Folk Festival, by the way. She moved down to Florida to run a maritime program in St. Augustine. She shared some of her music at the festival and of course, I bought her CD's and I am really enjoying them. Lots of new songs. Hope this finds you and Carol well.

08 Jun 09 - 09:17 AM (#2651266)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Abby,
How good to hear from you! I'm sure there are oldtimers besides moi still here that miss you around this forum. We, Carol and I, are in good shape, for the shape we're in. The glass is more than half full because I threw up in it. Thanks for the idea about Punnembook. I'll think on it. Cathy and Marcy were here for a visit a bit ago and we had a fine time. Give my best to Chris Kastle. If Tom is there still (one never knows) a high-five to him too. --

-- The more things change, the more they get different.

Art

08 Jun 09 - 09:45 AM (#2651290)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stefan Wirz

someone (grin) has added an Art Thieme article at Wikipedia ...
... you all better run and add some more facts to that article before one of those disgusting Wikipedia "notability" discussions starts to take place !
Stefan

08 Jun 09 - 10:42 AM (#2651320)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Elijah Browning

Now "THAT'S the TICKET"! Good start to the page, Stefan.

08 Jun 09 - 08:46 PM (#2651819)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Stefan,
Every time I look at what you have created for so many of us on your website, I'm simply amazed, stunned, and personally humbled -- by my portion of it especially.

Thank you again, good sir.

And the Wicked-pedophile piece is the first time I've been in an encyclopedia of any kind. To whoever started that -- As Midnight The Cat used to say on Smilin' Ed McConnell's old 1950s kids radio show with Froggy The Gremlin plunking his magic twanger:

"NICE!"

Art

09 Jun 09 - 11:16 AM (#2652248)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

I just noticed that Stefan Wirz--along with Chris are responsible for the Wikipedia entry. Again, thanks to you both.
Art

09 Jun 09 - 01:00 PM (#2652354)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stefan Wirz

it has been my pleasure ...
... and you might have noticed, that I didn't add anything else than what can be read in your - I assume: self written - Mudcat Cafe Profile --- so until now there seems to be nothing but sheer facts ;-)
Stefan

15 Dec 09 - 09:23 PM (#2789323)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

refresh---so them that are looking for the song Old Blue-Split Dog Tale might find it. Click on that title which BKLick has made available for listening in this thread.

Art

15 Dec 09 - 11:17 PM (#2789388)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: olddude

Loved it the first time I heard it, still do
wonderful stuff for sure

Dan

16 Dec 09 - 07:18 PM (#2789964)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

...and now, with Jean Ritchie in hospiutal -- I just noticed Jean's lovely remembrance of that long ago gig.

Dear lady, and George and Jon - everyone: Carol and I are hoping for a quick and complete recovery for all of you.

Love,

Art

16 Dec 09 - 07:33 PM (#2789974)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Leadfingers

I have a CD of Art - ALL good stuff !

16 Dec 09 - 07:34 PM (#2789975)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Leadfingers

100

16 Dec 09 - 07:48 PM (#2789981)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

What's to like about Art Thieme?

1. Well modulated voice always on key
2. Great diction
3. Clear crisp guitar work
4.Good taste in material
5. Humor

Take away all that what have you?

me

16 Dec 09 - 09:45 PM (#2790034)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Kendall How nice of you to say those things. All are true of you as well.

Some might say it's strange, (but I don't think so), that, when finding things we like in the work of others, we are sometimes, at least, looking into what we feel are our own best traits. Where you, good sir, are concerned, except for some kind of Yank accent, are up there with the very best. So, yes, you and I (and others of our ilk) are certainly doing it right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're the best! ---- So work on your grammar. If you do, that Grammy thing will fall right into yours and Dan's hands.

And I will, with vicarious pleasure, wallow in the glow of your personal auras!

Art

P.S. Folks, to actually see Kendall's aura, go to my folk photos at BKLick's site:

http://rudegnu.com/art_thieme.html

16 Dec 09 - 10:53 PM (#2790065)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

For your clicking pleasure:
Art's Place
Follow the directions to log in and then look for a link labeled "Search" near
the top of the page -- search for "Kendall" and that'l pull up three photos of the Cap'n.

16 Dec 09 - 11:04 PM (#2790071)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: BK Lick

Click here to find the track list up above in this thread to which Art refers.

17 Dec 09 - 07:35 AM (#2790240)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

Art, you wouldn't probably remember when that photo of Lee Haggerty and I was taken? I'd all but forgotten that D-25 Guild!

17 Dec 09 - 11:12 AM (#2790362)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Kendall,
I took that in Hartford, Connecticut. We were at the Folk Legacy Folk Festival--a workshop--in a church that was across the street from the Mark Twain home. It may have been in the late 1970s!?--Art

17 Dec 09 - 04:32 PM (#2790689)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: kendall

Now that I think of it, I grew that beard to piss off my first wife and that was about that time.

23 Apr 10 - 03:03 PM (#2892914)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: deepdoc1

I would like to add my thanks to Art Thieme for his outstanding body of work! I have been passing familiar for years, but am just now getting the collected works together...MC has been a great resource. I have laid waste to Folk-Legacy and Waterbug, and have downloaded the Kicking Mule tracks above/below. I greatly look forward now to my commute and new Thieme music.

Being somewhat oc/greedy (depends on who you ask) I would love to get "On the River" and "Live at the Winfield" also. Are these available to purchase or download? I have searched, but may be suffering from search-fatigue.

Thanks again to BK Lick (tracks) and Joe Offer, et al (lyrics) and to all the fans of Fine Art who make this site so informative. And Art, I wish you well, sir. Thank you.

JimB

23 Apr 10 - 06:20 PM (#2893017)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Art Thieme

Jim B--Thanks. Quite nice. I just PM'd you.

Art

24 Apr 10 - 05:30 PM (#2893628)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

JimB, you're in for a treat!

SRS

24 Apr 10 - 07:24 PM (#2893693)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: deepdoc1

*B(SE)G*

My breath is baited....

09 Jul 10 - 05:22 PM (#2942602)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: VirginiaTam

excellent stuff... this needs a refresh so's some more peeps can have a listen

04 Sep 10 - 02:56 AM (#2979706)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Joe Offer

There's a YouTube video titled FolkArt that has some Art Thieme photos I haven't seen before.

-Joe-

25 Oct 10 - 09:05 PM (#3015415)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: GUEST,John Schneider

Trying to contact Art Thieme....email me at sukviv4@gmail.com or 818-813-5008.

13 Aug 19 - 09:12 AM (#4004425)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Stilly River Sage

Earlier this summer Art's son CT posted this concert video from 1981. 75 minutes.

13 Aug 19 - 10:42 AM (#4004431)
Subject: RE: A little vintage Art Thieme
From: Elmore

SRS: Thank you so much. I look forward to seeing this later today.