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BS: Defenestration: pros and cons

15 Oct 07 - 10:20 PM (#2172015)
Subject: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp

On the good side (if not the upside), it's fast. On the downside, the defenestratee might land on some innocent passerby. It's been known to happen. I sure wouldn't want that.

Discuss the pros and cons as you see it.

- Chongo


15 Oct 07 - 10:40 PM (#2172023)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee

Chopping down all those trees...I dunno, Chongo. Trees are good and use up the CO2 that is causing Global Worming.


15 Oct 07 - 10:42 PM (#2172026)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Sorcha

We should all get defenestrated at some point.


15 Oct 07 - 10:55 PM (#2172038)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

Are you ticked off at someone again, little buddy? Those gorillas getting out of line?


15 Oct 07 - 11:06 PM (#2172045)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Dead Horse

Folks who live in defenestrated houses can throw as many damn stones as they like !


15 Oct 07 - 11:18 PM (#2172052)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth

I can't say at the moment, but I'll Czech it out.

(!!)

Don Firth


15 Oct 07 - 11:21 PM (#2172055)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: M.Ted

The problem with defenestration is that, at some point, someone needs to be fenestrated. You haven't been reading about Ermintrude Inch, by any chance?


16 Oct 07 - 12:01 AM (#2172067)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bee-dubya-ell

Defenestration pros are people who get paid to defenestrate. They are usually very good at defenestrating and, of equal importance, good at not getting caught in the act of defenestration.

If, however, a defenestration pro does get caught and sent to prison, he then becomes a defenestration con.


16 Oct 07 - 12:16 AM (#2172069)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks

Defenestration, in and of itself, has its pros and cons - depending upon the identity of the defenestratee, the altitudinal relationship between the defenestration site and the ground, and the condition of the point located at the terminus of the defenestration vector. For example, defenestration from a basement window will probably not meet the basic intent of the defenestrator(s).   Likewise, if the defenestration vector ends in a large pool of lime jello the overall results are likely to be unsatisfactory, irregardless of the presence or absence of banana slices.


16 Oct 07 - 12:52 AM (#2172083)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Art Thieme

Defenestration, being the act of tossing someone out of the window, was first practiced when a father tossed his lunch and his daughter out of the window in Prague. Having great difficulty trying to retrieve her back the same way she went, he coined the phrase about how difficult it was to raise a daughter!

Art Thieme


16 Oct 07 - 04:54 AM (#2172125)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Billy Weeks

I had my fenestrates surgically removed and have suffered panes ever since.


16 Oct 07 - 05:12 AM (#2172134)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: gnu

Some of you are clearly out the window.


16 Oct 07 - 05:59 AM (#2172142)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy

From Wikipedia:-
Defenestration were a UK heavy metal band from 1999 to 2004, based in the Northamptonshire town of Kettering.

Skipy


16 Oct 07 - 06:07 AM (#2172146)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy

Closing down my computer now, must get out of windows!
Skipy


16 Oct 07 - 07:12 AM (#2172167)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Leadfingers

Dave - You beat me to it - I was going to ask wether any one had asked Bill Gates' opinion


16 Oct 07 - 07:29 AM (#2172175)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: skipy

LOL
Skipy


16 Oct 07 - 07:37 AM (#2172180)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bryn Pugh

We have no panes, dear Mother, now . . .


16 Oct 07 - 07:41 AM (#2172182)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Amos

Defenestration can be sloppily done, such as using the same window for two consecutive instances. This leaves the second defenestree in the enviable position of feeling no pane.

A


16 Oct 07 - 07:41 AM (#2172186)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Grab

It's always a problem, shifting bracken out of the corners of your garden when it's established - oh wait, that'd be defernestration...


16 Oct 07 - 08:17 AM (#2172208)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks

Grab, let us have no thread spread!!


16 Oct 07 - 08:43 AM (#2172223)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly

Ermintrude make a great outboard engine.


16 Oct 07 - 08:55 AM (#2172231)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee

Sorry, I was thinking of deforestation. But the environmental consequences of defenestration could also be dire. How would we see outside if all of our windows were taken away? More importantly, where would we store them and would they leak into the water supply? Would the off-gassing destroy the Earth's protective layer of tin argide (SnAr2), which prevents passing aliens from peeking in at us while we're dressing or in the shower or picking our noses?

I need a comprehensive Environmental Impact Statement!


16 Oct 07 - 09:45 AM (#2172276)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Grab

For the blokes in Prague heading out the window, I imagine the environmental impact 20 feet below was what worried them too!


16 Oct 07 - 11:57 AM (#2172364)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

LOL! By God...some great puns here. Nice work, people. I'm still wondering who Chongo is ticked off at this time.


16 Oct 07 - 12:18 PM (#2172375)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly

Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia
Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia

Wind it up and pull the rope, Halleluia
Putt-putt, die and pull again, Halleluia

Hold the choke when it's chilly and cold, Halleluia
Back the trottle when the spark takes hold, Halleluia

Grab the handle, steer from the dock, Halleluia
Blessed days off of the clock, Halleluia

Fishing's great there in the cove, Halleluia
Bamboo bent as the bobber dove, Halleluia

12 inch striper grabbed in the net, Halleluia
Pan-fried eatin' is good, you bet! Halleluia

Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia
Evinrude the boat ashore, Halleluia


16 Oct 07 - 12:19 PM (#2172376)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

Lovely...


16 Oct 07 - 12:22 PM (#2172379)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: TheSnail

Grab

I imagine the environmental impact 20 feet below was what worried them too!

Well, the paticipants in the Second Defenestration of Prague landed in a pile of horse shit and survived. Very environmentally friendly.


16 Oct 07 - 01:08 PM (#2172424)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth

From my notebook of song sheets:
A Bonnie, Wee Lassie

A bonnie, wee lassie whose name it was Nell
Lived in the house where her grandmother dwell.
The house it was small and the windows no less;
Having four panes, one needed a glass in that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that nice little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

"Oh, Johnnie, dear Johnnie, d'you think it amiss
E're going home just to give me one kiss?"
"Oh, that I will, Nellie!" he answered her true.
And to her surprise, he poked his head through that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that nice little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, he gave her three kisses and great was the smack;
But to his surprise, he couldn't get his head back through that
CHO:
Hole in the window, that cute little window,
That cute little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, he ripped and he tore and he cussed and he swore.
Grandma heard the racket and jumped to the floor.
She picked up the poker and gave him a whack!
Another like that would have broken his back
CHO: With his head in the window, that cute little window,
That sweet little window where grandmother dwell.

Well, she lifted the ladle from out of the pot.
No batter e're took the beating he got!
He ran down the road with might and with main
Whilst 'round his shoulders, the sash and the frame of that
CHO:
Nice little window, that cute little window,
That sweet little window where grandmother dwell.

Learned in the early 1950s from The Burl Ives Song Book, Ballantine Books, 1953.
Don Firth


16 Oct 07 - 01:13 PM (#2172427)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth

Hmm! Just noticed in re-reading the above, I got some of my "cutes" and "sweets" mixed up. I gotta fix the song sheet. In the meantime, just ad lib. But stay away from the windows!

Don Firth


16 Oct 07 - 02:17 PM (#2172469)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Amos

Thanks, Don...I knew that song by heart long ago and had completely forgot it!!!!


A


16 Oct 07 - 02:27 PM (#2172479)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

I LOVED that song! Thanks, Don! We had a bunch of those Burl Ives records when I was a kid, and that one was my favorite.


16 Oct 07 - 02:28 PM (#2172480)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee

Windows Post
to the tune of "Whipping Post" by the Allman Brothers

System went down
Fileserver too
I don't know why I let windows make me a fool
It took all my memory
Crashed my new box
Now its down and my programs won't run,
this has been so much fun.
Sometimes I feel like crying in a Usenet post
Good Lord I lost all my files.
Tech Support tells me
I've been such a fool
Running more than one program at once
Now my computer's FU.
I'll reinstall tomorrow.
Bill Gates what have you done?
Nothing seems to change.
The errors are the same.
My programs won't run.
Sometimes I feel like crying in a Usenet post
Good Lord I lost all my files.


16 Oct 07 - 04:22 PM (#2172542)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth

AHA! I was wondering how long it would be before Microsoft Windows started taking a few shots. Good one!

Momentary thread drift:

For a kind of a ditzy little ditty, A Bonnie Wee Lassie has stood me in good stead during the past couple of weeks.

A week ago Sunday, Bob Nelson (Deckman) and I were at a gathering of friends, and after dinner the guitars came out and we did a bit of singing. Sometimes we play a little game of naming a sort of off-the-wall subject, and then seeing if we can come up with a song that fits. The son of the hostess tossed out the subject "big ears." After some thought, Bob said, "I got nuthin'!" I was about to pass also, then suddenly had an inspiration. I said, "This song doesn't mention ears, but it may very well be the cause of this fellow's problem." Then I sang A Bonnie Wee Lassie. Bob and the others cracked up, and the hostess's son allowed as how it fit the category.

Then this Sunday (Oct. 14th), at Bob's and my reunion concert (CLICKY), I did it again. It always goes over well.

And then here on this thread, where, in a weird sort of way, it seems to fit yet again. It's a cute song—not necessarily the song I want to be best known for—but it seems to work.

Now, back to our regular broadcast.

(Clinging fiercely to an inside wall!!)

Don Firth


16 Oct 07 - 04:28 PM (#2172548)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bill D

shucks, I've been singing that song for 45 years. It's one of the few I can't forget. (Got it off the Burl Ives LP, which I still own)


16 Oct 07 - 06:24 PM (#2172613)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T

Quasimodo had the same problem, according to Les B.

"Quasimodo and the bishop fought a duel in the belfry,
It was bats at twenty nine paces,
At the third pace the bishop fell out of the window,
'Cos belfries are very small places".

Don T.


16 Oct 07 - 06:58 PM (#2172639)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Herga Kitty

Wikipedia also records that the defenestrees of 1618 survived because they landed on a pile of horse manure..... also of course, this was apparently a trigger for the 30 years war, not sure whether that was a pro or a con?

Kitty


16 Oct 07 - 07:37 PM (#2172658)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

Horse Puckey!


16 Oct 07 - 10:52 PM (#2172684)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace

I will have to read the thread later, but here's what I think:

If you get it done to your dog I'd say that's OK. Getting it done to yourself is definitely a bad idea. We defenestrated some young bulls, and despite the procedure being quite fast, it's also painful and shocking for the animal. To reiterate: Just say no to defenestration.


16 Oct 07 - 11:03 PM (#2172689)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace

. . . or if you're real polite, "No, thank you."


16 Oct 07 - 11:11 PM (#2172696)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Joe_F

ObSongs:

Old Mother Hubbard went to her cupboard
To get her poor dog a bone,
But when she got there, the cupboard was bare,
So she threw it out the window,
The window, the window, the second-story window,
But when she got there, etc.

Most of Mother Goose can be enlivened in that way.


16 Oct 07 - 11:12 PM (#2172697)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Dead Horse

Herga Kitty,
Trigger, as we all know very well, was Roy Rogers horse.
His manure couldnt possibly have travelled back thru time and space to Prague 1618 !


16 Oct 07 - 11:42 PM (#2172714)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Gurney

Never happened to me, but it would be a con if it did.


I JUMPED out of a window once. That was a con.



Long time ago, and in another country. The wench may well BE dead.


16 Oct 07 - 11:49 PM (#2172718)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Don Firth

Well, Peace, I suppose having something like that done to one would tend to reduce one's window of opportunity. . . .

Don Firth


17 Oct 07 - 12:32 AM (#2172729)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Peace

Darned right, Don.


17 Oct 07 - 09:28 AM (#2172937)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: EBarnacle

In general, defenstration is one of the few murder styles where you don't bring your own weapon to the meeting. Of course, if you do bring your window, you might find it difficult to remove the victim from the room.


17 Oct 07 - 09:40 AM (#2172945)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: artbrooks

Oh no...not true at all. Removing the victim from the room is essentially a given in defenestration. It is the 500-year-old manure that is optional.


17 Oct 07 - 10:45 AM (#2172987)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly

Good defenestrations make for good neighbors.


17 Oct 07 - 11:31 AM (#2173023)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee

I was at a defenestration against the Vietnam War where they used tear gas.


17 Oct 07 - 11:34 AM (#2173026)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Stilly River Sage

Rap said Sorry, I was thinking of deforestation. But the environmental consequences of defenestration could also be dire.

Peace said If you get it done to your dog I'd say that's OK. Getting it done to yourself is definitely a bad idea. We defenestrated some young bulls . . .

A window on my past:

These semantic misprisions remind me of a time in my relatively-well-spent youth when I did an unkind thing to a very annoying young man (who in about 1975 in a Forest Service fire-fighting job kept insisting that he should be paid more, not less, than I in the job we were hired for because he was male, regardless of my superior education and experience). Our crew went out for dinner at a local restaurant and the place was packed with locals. He started in on his complaint about my pay, and I cut him off. As he paused to put a forkful of food into his mouth, I politely asked "Jim, do you masticate?"

"What!?? You're asking me something like that HERE?!!"

"It means 'to chew,' Jim," was my answer back.

"DAMN YOU!!!" and he shoved his way out of our booth and stomped out of the restaurant, and the whole place went up in a roar of laughter. He didn't bother me again after that, but I've always felt a little guilty about doing that do him.

SRS


17 Oct 07 - 01:41 PM (#2173084)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Bill D

...you should have asked him if he gesticulated....ot matriculated.


17 Oct 07 - 01:44 PM (#2173087)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: TheSnail

It's the "and I cut him off" that worries me.


17 Oct 07 - 03:35 PM (#2173125)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Herga Kitty

Dead Horse - thanks for giving away my age! The reference to Trigger comes from wikipedia
. Perhaps the message is that your 4-legged friends will let you down gently!

Kitty


17 Oct 07 - 03:38 PM (#2173128)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly

"misprisions"

I had one of these once. Sure, it broke down light into its full spectrum of colors, but they came out all mixed up so that purple was between yellow and blue instead of between red and blue.

Suddenly infrared was visible. Still, ultraviolet was, as always, cool. Ultraviolet is always cool. Ultra-cool. That's why they use it for black light posters.


17 Oct 07 - 03:47 PM (#2173135)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: MudGuard

Pro: The defenestrated persons usually stop breathing after the defenestration, thus they do not contribute to the CO2 production any longer.

Con: The defenestrated persons usually can't be bothered to clean up the stains they leave on the ground.


17 Oct 07 - 04:56 PM (#2173179)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Stilly River Sage

Those words are part of the bonus of going to graduate school, John. Not many occasions when they are applicable, however. I'm glad to see that you've found a misprision for misprisions. :)


17 Oct 07 - 04:59 PM (#2173185)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: John Hardly

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power.


17 Oct 07 - 07:22 PM (#2173263)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: robomatic

"Out the window" when translated into Russian, loudly, sounds like:

"Fok NO!"

An elderly public school Russian teacher in these parts was proud of having introduced this to her male students.


17 Oct 07 - 09:46 PM (#2173330)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Rapparee

If someone is defenestrated from a height sufficient to cause vitality-impairment, their "carbon footprint" does not instantly disappear. Left to themselves eventually a variety of gases, including hydrogen sulphide, methane, cadaverine and putrescine, will appear. As we know, bovine and other methane-contained flatus has been blamed for ozone depletion. When combined with water hydrogen sulfide can form sulfurous acid and affect our drinking water; if inhaled the effects can range from untoward comments to near-instantaneous death -- and it's also highly flammable.

I shall leave cadaverine and putrescine to your own investigations.


17 Oct 07 - 09:59 PM (#2173339)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: MaineDog

I liked the one about the Evinrude. Now that I am lacking a first mate, I think I'll have to go get one.

MD


17 Oct 07 - 10:01 PM (#2173341)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Stilly River Sage

A new first mate or a new Evinrude?


17 Oct 07 - 10:21 PM (#2173353)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: MaineDog

As I recall from the Bible, defenestration is appropriately followed by the defenestratee being eaten by dogs.
MD


17 Oct 07 - 11:09 PM (#2173375)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Art Thieme

Takin' a dump out the window killed the recipient. Next stop was the cemetary -- because he was "in turd" !

Art


18 Oct 07 - 10:27 AM (#2173627)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: MaineDog

Both, in good time! (but more likely, a Mercury)
MD


19 Oct 07 - 12:08 AM (#2174194)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Stilly River Sage

An aside: After my Dad died I had to sell a variety of things from the estate. One was his Boston whaler and the Evinrude that ran it. I put a fairly low price on it and it sold quickly (newspaper ad). There was a young guy all gung ho about how he was going to charge all over the place in this boat, but another guy called and I sold it to him. His previous boat had been stolen, and he wanted one so he could take his wife fishing.

SRS


19 Oct 07 - 06:59 AM (#2174339)
Subject: RE: BS: Defenestration: pros and cons
From: Little Hawk

That's a bit odd. Most men go fishing to get away from their wives, don't they? At least that seemed to be the case on that lake I used to live on in New York State many years ago. There were all these old reprobates who would float around out on the lake all day, drinking beer and avoiding their familial responsibilities. Very occasionally they would also catch a fish.