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Casting Terry Pratchett films

28 Oct 07 - 03:06 PM (#2181135)
Subject: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

A post on the Russel Crowe thread suggested he'd make a good Vimes; I thought he was more like Carrot. But this gives me an idea: Whom would you cast in some of the most memorable Pratchett roles? Here is a starter:

Commander Vimes
Captain Carrot
Corporal Nobby Nobbs
Sergeant Colon
Sergeant Detritus
Lord Vetinari
Moist van Lipswig
CMOT Dibbler
Igor
DEATH
Mort
The Librarian
Ponder Stibbons
Rincewind

...and...

Granny Weatherwax
Nanny Ogg
Magrat
Tiffany Aching
Mrs Cake
Ysabell (Death's stepdaughter)


28 Oct 07 - 03:07 PM (#2181136)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

Hit "enter" too soon - could a kind Mudelf move to BS please....


28 Oct 07 - 03:14 PM (#2181142)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Rasener

Captain Carrot - why Jasper Carrott of course
Corporal Nobby Nobbs - Nobby Stiles
The Librarian - John Conolly
Moist van Lipswig - George Papavgeris :-)


28 Oct 07 - 03:18 PM (#2181145)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

CMOT must be George Cole in Arthur Daley mode:-)

Lord Vetenari - Alan Rickman`

Nanny Ogg - Pam Ferris (or, giving it a folky flavour, how about Norma Waterson;-) )

Death's voice could be none other than Christopher Lee

Simon Pegg could make a good Rincewind (Or Jasper Carrot in his younger days!)

Cheers

Dave


28 Oct 07 - 03:46 PM (#2181154)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty

Whoever plays the librarian will have to wear an orang-utan suit, so we're just talking about the voice, really..... who sounds good saying ook?

Kitty


28 Oct 07 - 04:05 PM (#2181164)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

Dunno - I think maybe Wayne Rooney could do it...

:D


28 Oct 07 - 04:28 PM (#2181178)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Anne Lister

Rincewind - Mackenzie Crook, without a doubt.
Vimes - John Simm
Totally agree that Vetinari should be Rickman.
CMOT - David Tennant


Anne


28 Oct 07 - 04:57 PM (#2181204)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Inspired idea for a thread!

Yes, George Cole for CMOT Dibbler. Or maybe Dirty Den.

I assume we are allowed a time machine, so as to cast people from the past, or at prevous ages.

Alan Rickman is quite wrong for Vetinari, much too overtly sinister but with an air of a bungler about him which Vetinari is not. It would be a nice role for the young Leslie Phillips, a chance to play intelligence rather than folly, and the voice would work well. How about Peter Bowles?

Ysabell I think the young Fenella Fielding.

Nobby Nobbs could be Arthur Askey, or Charlie Drake, or Norman Wisdom.

I quite like the idea of Jackie Chan as Rincewind.

I think Detritus has to be Sylvester Stallone.

Igor is Baldrick!

I may be back with more thoughts on this....



Who will do Gaspode's voice?

Old Steptoe for Cohen the Barbarian.

Nanny Ogg is Irene Handle to the life.

Sergent Colon - Mike Read (the East Enders one)

Captain Carrot - the bloke who played the Russian boxer who lost in Rocky - playing way against type.

Magrat I think is Una Stubbs - she really could act.

Vimes is difficult, there has to be the big streak of street in him, yet the obsessive virtue.


28 Oct 07 - 06:07 PM (#2181241)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

I see Vimes played by Bob Hoskins... don't ask why, I just do.

LTS


28 Oct 07 - 06:28 PM (#2181254)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Shimrod

If I'd ever got past chapter one of volume one, I might have some idea of what you're talking about.

Same thing happened with 'Harry Potter'. I've seen a couple of the films on telly - they were OK but also sort of persuaded me that I hadn't missed much in not reading the books. I suspect that the same could be true of Terry Pratchett.


28 Oct 07 - 06:34 PM (#2181256)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

As Lord Vetinari, nobody can beat Ian Richardson (Francis Urquhart in House of Cards) for my money.

Why not Alan Rickman for Vimes? He could swing it.

Detritus just has to be Arnold Schwarzenegger.

A young Rita Tushingham for Ysabell?
Robert Carlyle or Ewan McGregor for Mort.
Death could be Vincent Price.

Rincewind is Charles Hawtrey (the weakling in the Carry On films)

And CMOT Dibbler, surely, is Sid James!


28 Oct 07 - 06:38 PM (#2181260)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

Chalk and cheese, Shimrod. The Harry Potter stories are for kids. The Terry Pratchett ones began masquerading as such, but they were always for adults. The pretense has been dropped now.

Harry Potter stories are about adventure. Terry Pratchet stories are about biting humour, taking the piss of everything and everyone that catches his attention, from mathematicians to filmmakers to police to religious fanatics, to ordinary folks' little quirks.

Rawlings made the millions, but Pratchet wrote the classics.


28 Oct 07 - 07:44 PM (#2181314)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Anne Lister

I enjoy both Harry Potter and Pratchett (and Philip Pullman - and Ursula le Guin - and Dorothy Dunnett - and lots more besides). The great thing about music and literature is you don't have to choose just one writer to love. But it seems odd to join a thread about casting novels which you haven't read!

In terms of living actors, I'm sticking to Rickman as Vetinari. He hasn't got a bungling bone in his body (apart from the Die Hard villain) and he can act anyone else off the stage. I'm basing this comment on watching him in action in the film studio (as Snape) in comparison with Kenneth Branagh and anyone else around - the man has krisma!

Anne


28 Oct 07 - 07:57 PM (#2181323)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Couple of good ones there George. Sid James - love it! David Jason could do it too (remember him in Porterhouse Blue"?). Likewise Richardson for Vetinari. Must blow the rest out of the water.

But, no, Schwarzeneger is too capable for Detritus. It has to be Stallone. Schwarzenegger can be the bad werewolf in the one about the fat meteor.

I'm not sure we've got Carrot right yet. Who was the good bodybuilder in "A kid for two farthings"?


28 Oct 07 - 07:58 PM (#2181326)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: HuwG

Corporal Nobby Nobbs would have to be played by Andy "Gollum" Serkis, though the images would have to be a little less benign. Only Rickman could be Vetinari - I recall seeing him play the Reverand Obadiah Slope in the BBC adaptation of Trollope's "The Warden" and "Barchester Towers", and have never seen anything quite so machiavellian.

Christopher Lee has voiced "Death" several times.

My other recommendations: Timothy West for Sergeant Fred Colon, and his wife Prunella Scales (with a bit of padding) for Lady Vimes (nee Ramkin).

See Internet Movie Database for cast list for "Hogfather", see what the industry has already come up with.


28 Oct 07 - 07:58 PM (#2181327)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Vimes! I have it! Alec Guinness (if he could lose the RADA accent) - imagine his flawed conscience from the "Bridge over the River Kwai"!


28 Oct 07 - 08:02 PM (#2181330)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Mort is wotsisname from Some Mothers do 'ave 'em - Frank Spencer (character)


28 Oct 07 - 08:04 PM (#2181332)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Lady Vimes - Geraldine James


28 Oct 07 - 08:13 PM (#2181341)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Been on IMdB - David Jason is good as Albert, too.


28 Oct 07 - 08:58 PM (#2181369)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: folk1e

They are in the process of making the second Pratchet film (can't remember which at the moment)
How about Tony Blair as CMT Dibbler,
or following the political theme how about Prescot as either the Librarian (no speaking) or Detrius (little speaking).
Jeramy Paxman would be a good Vetinari and Billy Piper could play Anguna, carrots love interest/ Weirwolf.


28 Oct 07 - 09:00 PM (#2181372)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

If we can take actors from the past then Lynn Redgrave from the 60's for Sybil Vimes. I see Rickman an too big for Vetinari although he could probably pull it off. And Andy Serkis would be perfect for the Librarian, though if I were him I would resist the typecasting. I still would go for Russel Crowe for vimes.


28 Oct 07 - 10:24 PM (#2181441)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

Just a few suggestions - unfortunately several are dead or, by now, too old.

Voice of DEATH - Christopher Lee (or Valentine Dyall)
Vimes - Clint Eastwood (in Dirty Harry mode) has been suggested eleswhere
Carrott - Dolf lungren has the build but not the charisma
Nobby Nobbs - Russell Hunter (the bloke who played 'Lonely' in the series 'Callan - for those old enough to remember)
The ArchChancellor of UU - Brian Blessed (Comes complete with own beard and bellow)
Bursar - Alan Bennett
Dibler - I think Sid James could carry it off
Colon - Bill Fraser
Magrat - Jan Horrocks ('Bubble' in Ab Fab)
Rincewind - Rowan Atkinson
Nanny Ogg - Joan Sims
Voice of Gaspode - Jon Culshaw
"...Been on IMdB - David Jason is good as Albert, too..."
I've always seen Albert as Wilfred Bramble (Albert Steptoe)

Walrus


28 Oct 07 - 10:26 PM (#2181444)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Bee-dubya-ell

Billy Bob Thornton as The Luggage


29 Oct 07 - 03:32 AM (#2181540)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Sooz

I want to be Granny Weatherwax!


29 Oct 07 - 03:37 AM (#2181542)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

Can't blame you, if I wasn't a bloke I would want to be her! Spunky lady.


29 Oct 07 - 04:18 AM (#2181557)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Rasener

Oh no Anything but Sooz being Granny Weatherwax :-)


29 Oct 07 - 04:21 AM (#2181559)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Granny Weatherwax is a very hard one to cast - there has to be the power, but without grandeur, and the tragedy of her unconsummated love in her youth for Mustrum Ridcully. Glenda Jackson or Helen Mirren? Maybe Vanessa Redgrave (again, if she can lose the RADA accent).

No, George, you don't want to be her, she's a virgin remember?

Maybe Daryl Hannah for Angua.

LTS for Perdita?

And Twoflower? If you don't like Jackie Chan for Rincewind, how about him for Twoflower?

And you can't have Wilfred Bramble for Albert, he is Cohen the Barbarian to the life.


29 Oct 07 - 04:30 AM (#2181562)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

You want me to be Perdita? I wonder why that could be?

(smirk)

LTS


29 Oct 07 - 05:27 AM (#2181583)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

How about Magrat, LTS?
WOW, inspiration: Kenneth Williams for Death Of Rats.


29 Oct 07 - 07:29 AM (#2181646)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Actually, now I think of it, the Muscles from Brussels for the bad boy werewolf,

Schwarzenegger for Chrysoprase.

It's the (alleged) voice, LTS...

Felicity Kendall for Cheery Littlebottom


29 Oct 07 - 08:34 AM (#2181704)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest

Margaret Rutherford for Granny Weatherwax - or rather Nanny Ogg?

Hard to deceide...


29 Oct 07 - 09:25 AM (#2181770)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Funny, something ate a post.

Mr Teatime - is it Stephen Berkov, or Boris Karloff?

Moist von Lipwig I think could be Dickie Attenborough or Alec Guinness.

I haven't yet found a part for Jack Hawkins or Lou Ferrigno...


29 Oct 07 - 09:33 AM (#2181778)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Mr Tulip is Michael Caine.


29 Oct 07 - 09:37 AM (#2181783)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

What about Eskarina - my favourite character after Gaspode?


29 Oct 07 - 10:00 AM (#2181804)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

James Earl Jones for Death. Has to be.


29 Oct 07 - 10:21 AM (#2181825)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Ah-hah - that give me an idea for Vimes - is it Tommy Lee Jones who is the hard man in Men in Black and Fugitive (notthe TV prog, the film)?


29 Oct 07 - 10:25 AM (#2181829)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

I do believe so.


29 Oct 07 - 01:58 PM (#2182032)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest

So many postings and no one suggested a role for Shatner...Little Hawk, where are you?

And I suggest Sean Bean for Vimes - there are some similarities (low upbringing, career in service) between Vimes and Sharpe...


29 Oct 07 - 02:19 PM (#2182050)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

Shatner can play whassisname - Death's servant that only has a coupole seconds left to live if he shows up in the "real" world.


29 Oct 07 - 04:20 PM (#2182118)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Albert. No, quite unsuitable.


29 Oct 07 - 04:22 PM (#2182119)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

Yea - James Earl Jones has my vote for Death as well!

Agree with whoever said Wilfred Bramble for Albert.

Some of the new (and old) Last of the Summer Wine characters slot in but I can't quite figure out who does what - Apart from Burt Kwok who has do do anyone Chinese (or Agatean)!

Stick to my guns on Rickman - he can do sinister realy well.

How about Prince for Buddy?

Keep 'em coming!

:D


29 Oct 07 - 04:25 PM (#2182121)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

Oh - Spike Milligan for the Bursar.


29 Oct 07 - 04:26 PM (#2182124)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

shatner's unsuitable for any role - but if he played Albert - well, we probably wouldn't have to see much of him.


29 Oct 07 - 05:39 PM (#2182184)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty

Patricia Routledge as Sybil Vimes?

Kitty


29 Oct 07 - 05:49 PM (#2182190)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty

Rowan Atkinson as Rincewind.

Kitty


29 Oct 07 - 05:52 PM (#2182193)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Herga Kitty

Gerard Depardieu as Detritus....

Kitty


29 Oct 07 - 07:38 PM (#2182283)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

Good choices Kitty, I see where you're coming from. Depardieu for Detritus - excellent.


29 Oct 07 - 10:17 PM (#2182368)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

Sean Bean would make a good Vimes. the problem with casting Carrot is that he is a red headed greek god with charisma. Just doesn't call up a real person. And then there is the problem of Nobby. remember he has to carry a certificate to prove he is human.


30 Oct 07 - 02:15 AM (#2182427)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: George Papavgeris

Yep, Sid James then for Nobby.


30 Oct 07 - 02:58 AM (#2182435)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest

How about Danny de Vito for Nobby Nobbs?


30 Oct 07 - 03:39 AM (#2182446)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Patricia Routledge only does common striving to be middle class. Lady Vimes is the real thing. Now what's the name of the woman from "To the Manor Born" and "the Good life"? Good actress too. They could give her a fat suit for the physical attributes.


30 Oct 07 - 05:18 AM (#2182485)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

Penelope Keith is who you mean.

I see Caroline Quentin as Lady Vimes - she can be remarkably cultured when she wants to be.

LTS


30 Oct 07 - 05:37 AM (#2182492)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

I must disagree with Milligan for Bursar - he's not nervous and put-upon enough.
Milligan could carry off Cohen or, at a pinch Albert, but not the Bursar (he just doesn't look like a man that gets bellowed at on a regular basis).

How about Edward Woodward as Dr. Downey (of the Assassin's Guild).

W


30 Oct 07 - 08:24 AM (#2182550)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa

I see Nicholas (? - Rodney the plonker) as Rincewind.

Rickman is too charismatic and "forward" for Vetinari, but how about as the villain from Going Postal?

Carrot is difficult - maybe Kevin Costner, but perhaps a bit too old?

Keep the girl who did Susan in the TV Hogfather.

Agree Brian Blessed as Ridcully.

I see John Tams as one of the wizards - maybe even Vetinari, with a trim and hair dye.

Tom Cruse as King of the Dwarfs - or is that naughty?

Off the wall perhaps: Michelle Pfeiffer as Weatherwax.

But who is going to be Adora Belle Dearheart?


30 Oct 07 - 10:17 AM (#2182625)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Dr Downey - now who was the sinister gang boss (on the inside) in Porridge? Gimlet eyes!


30 Oct 07 - 12:19 PM (#2182687)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

That would be Grouty, can't remember his name either but he'd be a good choice.

Nicholas Lyndhurst is the one you were thinking of for Rincewind, but he's a bit plumper and less put upon now. I'd cast a non-actor in that part - I'd have Michael Rosen the poet. He has that same sort of hunted air about him.

Frank Bruno would make a good Chrysophase, so long as he doesn't have to speak.

Rickman would make a good voice for Gaspode the WonderDog.

LTS


30 Oct 07 - 12:37 PM (#2182705)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

woody allen for rincewind


30 Oct 07 - 02:11 PM (#2182785)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

No, Woody Allen for the bursar. He's got the hunted look down to a T.

I was re-reading some Pratchett last night and if you think about the way Rincewind ducks, weaves, runs, gags, etc, it HAS to be Jackie Chan. Which makes casting Twoflower a problem.


30 Oct 07 - 05:51 PM (#2182935)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa

Sean Bean isn't old and tired enough for Vimes, but might make Carrot.

No suggestions for Otto? Clarissa? Leonard of Quirm? Colon?


30 Oct 07 - 06:29 PM (#2182975)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri

Robin Williams as Rincewind. I think Alan Rickman could play everybody else, including Gaspode's voice.
Al Pacino as Vetinari maybe.


30 Oct 07 - 06:41 PM (#2182983)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Otto - Leonard Nimoy.


30 Oct 07 - 06:44 PM (#2182987)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Leonard of Quirm - Patrick Moore


30 Oct 07 - 06:45 PM (#2182991)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Maybe Lou Ferrigno could do Carrot, with the right makeup. He used to do sensitive in the Amazing Hulk.


30 Oct 07 - 06:48 PM (#2182995)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Gottit, yes, I've got Carrott, at last. Johnny Weismuller. (Tarzan)


30 Oct 07 - 06:49 PM (#2182997)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

And that makes Angua Fay Wray.


30 Oct 07 - 07:10 PM (#2183019)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri

Rule #1: Actor has to be alive (unless playing a zombie or vampire)

That lets out Weismuller. I like George's suggestion of Russell Crowe as Carrot, but he'd want too much money.

Whoopi Goldberg as Granny Weatherwax.


30 Oct 07 - 07:51 PM (#2183058)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

Sybil Is not Fat!! She is generously endowed, actually, if we could bring back Margaret Dumont she would be perfect.


30 Oct 07 - 10:08 PM (#2183147)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

"...Rule #1: Actor has to be alive (unless playing a zombie or vampire)..."

Here! You can't go slapping on rules like that at this stage of the game!

Perhaps after this thread breake the 100 (or 150) barrier, it might be possible to produce a 'practical' list (all actors alive as they are today) and an 'ideal' list (any, alive or dead at their prime or the appropriate age).

How about the late Charles Grey (the crimanologist in 'Rocky Horror Picture Show') as Dr. Downey ?

Walrus


30 Oct 07 - 10:22 PM (#2183157)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Jeri

Maybe we should do up a realistic live cast and a separate dead one. Or not. If we're letting dead people play roles, I think Basil Rathbone would be a good Vimes. Carel Struycken (not dead) would be a good DEATH, but he doesn't have The Voice. It's hard to speak in upper case all the time!

Charles Grey - the guy with no neck? Sounds good to me.


31 Oct 07 - 03:10 AM (#2183256)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

Only Christopher Lee has ever managed to sound as if he were speaking in upper case all the time. James Earl Jones would be Deaths' Boss - the one who has a single word to say that takes up the entire page in bold - and even then it might need a tweak with a voicebox.

LTS


31 Oct 07 - 03:48 AM (#2183264)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

I postulated very early on that we were allowed a tme machine.


01 Nov 07 - 07:10 PM (#2184613)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Been re-reading the Pratchetts (starting at the beginning).

Cohen the Barbarian is DEFINITELY Wilfred Bramble.

Ysabell is equally definitely the young Fenella Fielding.

I am worried about Death. There is an element of uncertainty, of doubt, of wistfulness that we are not capturing here yet.

I still really like Jackie Chan for Rincewind - despite "Some Mothers do 'ave em" I don't really think Michael Crawford has the moves (and he'd be better as Mort, or King thingamjig).

But that does make casting TwoFlower really hard.

Windsor Davies might make a decent fist of Jackrum.


01 Nov 07 - 08:12 PM (#2184655)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Les from Hull

I did see Paul Darrow (Avon in Blakes 7) as Vimes in a stage production. He was very good.


01 Nov 07 - 08:18 PM (#2184659)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Avon? Amazing. He'd have been a good Vetinari. Blake could have done Vimes.

What about the young Hayley Mills for Eskarina?


02 Nov 07 - 12:18 AM (#2184773)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly

Well, I couldn't get them all, but here's what I could think of:

I actually think Jackie Chan would be an inspired choice for Twoflower. Or else, if you wanted someone younger (though I guess not, since he has a daughter), Masi Oka of the new US show "Heroes" would be brilliant--his character essentially IS Twoflower. :)

Commander Vimes - maybe too sexy, but Daniel Craig?

Captain Carrot - buff him up a bit and I think Ewan McG. could hit this one out of the park.

Corporal Nobby Nobbs - I agree, Andy Serkis would be PERFECT.Lord Vetinari - Much as I adore Alan R., he's not as angular as he used to be. If we had the A.R. of "Robin Hood" perhaps.

Igor - which one? ;)

DEATH - gotta agree with Christopher Lee.

Ponder Stibbons - Michael Sheen? He was so endearing in "Heartlands"...


Granny Weatherwax - if we can count the deceased, I would actually say Katharine Hepburn. Her beauty could be made pretty severe, and she had that no-bullshit air about her. I think she'd be a perfect practitioner of Headology. ;)

Nanny Ogg - I know she's way too young, but for some reason Brenda Blethyn springs to mind. I think it's her portrayal of the super-flooze Mari Hoff in "Little Voice".

Magrat - I was a little disappointed in Jane Horrocks' Mag. in the animated "WS", because I'm a huge fan of hers. But none of the voices in that really made me happy, and I think it may have been the direction rather than the acting.

Tiffany Aching - hmm. For the earlier books, let's see how this Dakota Blue Richards girl turns out (the Golden Compass/HDM films).


02 Nov 07 - 06:52 AM (#2184874)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa

The problem with permitting dead actors is that Alec Guiness could play all of the male roles and the elder females too. Olivier could play the more posturing ones (and others too, to be fair).

My wife suggests Maggie Smith for Weatherwax.


02 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM (#2185051)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly

YES!!!!!!


02 Nov 07 - 08:44 PM (#2185382)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

How about Joanna Lumley for Lady Sybil?

LTS


02 Nov 07 - 10:08 PM (#2185422)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

I always think of Lady Sybil as being somewhat more Junoesque
Penelope Keith certainly has the height
Perhaps the woman in the British TV version of 'Life and Loves of a She Devil' (Julie something) may work.

Any recommendations for the Agony Aunts?

W


03 Nov 07 - 09:53 AM (#2185609)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

Whassername that plays Alice the Verger in Vicar of Dibley could do a good Magrat as well I reckon. Has Dolph Lungren been mentioned as Carrot? He did a good He-Man:-)

Victoria Wood as anyone her age and shape!

:D


03 Nov 07 - 10:37 AM (#2185618)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

Oh - and I think whoever it was may have meant Patricia Routledge, Liz - Mrs Bouquet from Keeping up Appearances. I think she would make a good Sybil but I wouldn't be able to see Vimes without imagining the long suffering Richard:-)

Talking of Sybil - How about Prunella Scales?

Mind you, John Cleese wouldn't work as Vimes!

:D


03 Nov 07 - 04:19 PM (#2185797)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Raedwulf

But who is going to be Adora Belle Dearheart? Instantly I saw Lauren Bacall, for some reason.

Christopher Lee for Death, has to be.

Can't believe you're arguing about Vimes. He started out as Dirty Harry - it *has* to be Clint Eastwood (& yes, the man can act more than enough to encompass the way Sam has grown).

Can't argue with Geraldine James (Blott on the Landscape anyone?) for Lady Ramkin.

Katherine Hepburn would be a superb Granny W. (but Brian Blessed feels wrong as Ridcully - not big enough & too hammy).

I can go with Sid James for Nobby Nobbs, but Dibbler ought to be "Del Boy" David Jason. Nicholas Lindsay as Rincewind isn't perfect, but the best of the suggestions so far.

Alec Guinness beats Rickman for Vetinari in my book. Rickman isn't spare/spartan/economical enough, call it how you will (& I think Rickman is a genius!), in physique or manner.

Rickman, perhaps, for Greebo. Or Sean Bean. Or me!

Oliver Hardy for The Dean? Doesn't quite work, but no-one else has mentiond The Dean. There must be a part for Stan Laurel too, but he's halfway between The Bursar & Ponder Stibbons, for me. Lon Chaney for whatshisname, the old zombie git in the bath chair.

A young George Clooney for Victor Maraschino of Moving Pictures (presuming that Errol Flynn is not available).


03 Nov 07 - 05:27 PM (#2185830)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa

I hadn't thought of Greebo - Johnny Depp, surely?

Having raised the point about Adora - I do like the thought of Lauren Bacall.

You mean that Ridcully isn't hammy? Not with you there.

I had the Dean when I started that last sentence......it wasn't Alan Rickman, but now I've thought of it, he could do it......I know, I know! Shatner!

I suppose someone will suggest Nimoy for Vetinari now.

For Ponder Stibbons, I keep seeing Michael Redgrave as Barnes Wallis in the Dam Busters. A bit too old, though.


03 Nov 07 - 08:08 PM (#2185897)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Nimoy is a superb actor - and I want to put him in somewhere, but I have not got it right yet.

I think Clint Eastwood (from the early "Rawhide" days) might be better as Greebo - Greebo has to be big and to have that catlike grace. If you just want burly and evil maybe the young Oliver Reed, but he always had trouble with grace.

What's the name of that Irish actor who does the sinister psychotic undercover policeman (and the hammy TV ads for yellow pages)? He might be good for Vimes - and he is small enough too. Don't forget Vimes has to collapse under the weight of Lady Vimes (pre-wedding) when rescuing her from the dragon.

The fat tenor (is it Harry Sugg?) - Rik Waller surely (or Meatloaf).

What about David Suchet for Dr Downey? Or he could probably do the trick of disappearing so as to be Moist Von Lipwig.   Another wholly superb actor.

I am however amazed that there are those who dispute the casting of Vetinari - it simply HAS to be Ian Richardson.

When we get to "Soul Music" I have an acting role for Pete Docherty!

Maybe Roy Kinnear for the Dean?

Off to continue the re-reading now....


04 Nov 07 - 01:15 AM (#2186008)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly

Sean Bean as Greebo...are you trying to kill me??? Someone draw a bath with ice cubes, please.

Ooh, Adora Belle, what a juicy role. Jodie Foster. *grin*She can do sexy yet hardened integrity like no one else I know.


04 Nov 07 - 02:30 AM (#2186015)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

Greebo for me has always been Sean Connery... Don't know why.. it's just whenever I read any of the Greebo bits, Sean Connery sounds in my head.

I think it's the seducing all the ladies and beating up the men bit from the Bond movies that does it. And it would have to be him in his 'Goldfinger' days at the ball when he's turned into a human.

LTS


04 Nov 07 - 06:59 PM (#2186498)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

Micca (au natural) as the "wild" Santa - which is captured to become hogfather ...or am I in the wrong series....hmmmm, I'm pretty sure that chase and capture scene is in Pratchett.


05 Nov 07 - 12:42 AM (#2186575)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

It is


05 Nov 07 - 09:45 AM (#2186748)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Rumncoke

If we can have a time machine, it has to be Hattie Jaques as Sybil Ramkin.


05 Nov 07 - 02:13 PM (#2186942)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,redhorse

Richard E Grant as Moist von Lipwig

Don Henderson as Vimes?


06 Nov 07 - 10:01 AM (#2187477)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

For detritus, current IFBB mr Olympia Jay Cutler, Imp the bard Orlando Bloom, Susan Renee Zellweger.


06 Nov 07 - 03:18 PM (#2187758)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,sam

what about wolfgang or the baron from the fifth elephant???


06 Nov 07 - 11:44 PM (#2188102)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly

What about our boy Johnny Depp for Moist VL? I think he'd be hilarious. He's got that combination of goofiness and gravitas. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.


07 Nov 07 - 02:48 AM (#2188134)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Wolfgang - the muscles from Brussells.


07 Nov 07 - 10:08 AM (#2188325)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

Johnny Depp would be great in about half the roles. I can even see him doing a great Vetinari


07 Nov 07 - 06:30 PM (#2188634)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Liz the Squeak

I have a sneaking feeling that David Tennant would make a good Moist VPL or whatever he's called... I think it's the eyes.

LTS


07 Nov 07 - 08:57 PM (#2188683)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

Gary Oldman (in 'Dracula' mode) in a cameo role as Otto the photographer?

W


07 Nov 07 - 09:11 PM (#2188687)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: CET

I'm going to stick with live actors, I think.

I think most of the characters need to be played by Brits, or at least actors who can convincingly portray Brits. There is no escaping the fact that Terry Pratchett is writing about the British (and particularly the English). Therefore, I just can't see Clint Eastwood as any of the main characters, certainly not Vimes.

I can certainly see Sean Bean as Vimes. He doesn't come across as too young - more like cynical, mature and tough.

Depardieu as Detritus - you'd have to get past the accent, and I think you'd need somebody even bigger. Schwarzenegger has the physique, but the accent would be a problem.

I think Alan Rickman would be a great choice for Vetinari. Personally, though, I would prefer James Purefoy who played Marc Antony on the Rome series. Perhaps a bit buff, but he wouldn't be appearing in the nude, as he did on Rome in every other scene. He could certainly carry off the intelligence and menace required for the part. Don't forget, Vetinari is smooth as silk, but physically deadly and completely unscrupulous. I think Purefoy could do that even better than Rickman. Or, how about Patrick Stewart?

Brian Blessed would be an inspired choice for the Chancellor.

I can't think of any well known actor who is exactly right for Capt Carrot. He would have to be well over six feet tall, with a physique to match. I think you would have to have a special casting call.

You would have to consider Christopher Plummer for the role of Death.

Definitely Maggie Smith for Granny Weatherwax, but I could also see Cate Blanchett with the appropriate make up.

Edmund


08 Nov 07 - 04:18 AM (#2188793)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Santa

I'm afraid that Brian Blessed no longer counts as a live actor.

There must be a role for Alan Titchmarsh, he's in everything else.

Carrot is difficult: how about Simon King, the wildlife presenter? I don't know if he can act, but he has the naive enthusiasm down pat. In which case Bill Oddie has to be found a role as one of the minor wizards.

Cate Blanchett would make the Queen of the Elves.

Ponder Stibbins is an intellectual Harry Potter, no? Problem solved. Or the actor who plays Michael in Robert Lindsay/Zoe Wannamaker's disfunctional family. Hmm. Perhaps there's a potential Magrat there, too?


08 Nov 07 - 10:39 AM (#2188986)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

100


08 Nov 07 - 10:41 AM (#2188989)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

ook!


08 Nov 07 - 06:03 PM (#2189337)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Dave the Gnome

I'm sure both Clive Owen abd Ray Winstone have a role to play but I'm not sure what. I'll think about it...

:D


09 Nov 07 - 02:01 AM (#2189528)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: harpmolly

Cate as the Queen...I love it! Galadriel from Evil Mirror World! :D


09 Nov 07 - 07:47 PM (#2190246)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Fred Maslan

I can't agree that all the possible actors should be british, after all Discworld may not even be in our universe. Not to mention the fact that the trolls all seem to speak brooklinese. (except of course Diamond)


14 Nov 07 - 11:22 AM (#2193560)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Corlia

What about Simon Pegg from Hot Fuzz for Carrot?


15 Nov 07 - 05:45 AM (#2194223)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST

Carrot has already been cast and had his own series - the Mountie in 'Due South'. Think about it - the knowing everyone in the neighbourhood, unflinching good manners even in the heat of the chase, the doggedness, and underneath it all the feeling that he'll come out the winner.


15 Nov 07 - 05:46 AM (#2194225)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST,Wyrd Sister

...sorry, mi cookie's gone...


15 Nov 07 - 10:51 AM (#2194442)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes

Granny Weatherwax is clearly Liz Smith (Vicar of Dibley, Royle Family).


15 Nov 07 - 11:03 AM (#2194451)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes

Incidentally it's "The Colour of Magic" they are filming at the moment, David Jason is playing Rincewind. Blicky


15 Nov 07 - 11:05 AM (#2194453)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Greyeyes

Or even Blicky


15 Nov 07 - 11:52 AM (#2194496)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Oh, no! David Jason is far too old and unathletic to do Rincewind. A young Michael Crawford might have done him.


15 Nov 07 - 01:50 PM (#2194586)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Santa

The one thing Rincewind is good at is running.

And who is going to play Ffahrd and the Grey Mouser - or whatever Pratchett called them in the book?


15 Nov 07 - 01:54 PM (#2194587)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: MMario

Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Nov 07 - 05:45 AM

Carrot has already been cast and had his own series - the Mountie in 'Due South'. Think about it - the knowing everyone in the neighbourhood, unflinching good manners even in the heat of the chase, the doggedness, and underneath it all the feeling that he'll come out the winner

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
I think you have a point there, guest - too bad you didn't sign a name so we could give you credit for it.


15 Nov 07 - 03:43 PM (#2194681)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Ernest

I think Pete Postlethwaite (sp.?) deserves a role - how about Fred Colon?


15 Nov 07 - 04:26 PM (#2194732)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Nigel Parsons

100+ posts and no mention of Anthony Hopkins?
Vetinari possibly, the calm, smooth manner, with an undercurrent of threat!

Rosie Palm: Billie Piper in her 'Belle de Jour' persona.


15 Nov 07 - 04:47 PM (#2194760)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

There is no doubt.   Vetinari is Ian Richardson. It is perfect.

Hopkins could do either of the new Firm

Billie Piper does nothing but annoy me (as does the arrogance of the alleged call-girl demeaning the great film and book Belle de Jour by nicking the name)


15 Nov 07 - 05:32 PM (#2194812)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Wyrd Sister

Thanks Mmario (1.54 pm)- if you check the next post you'll see I did 'fess up to the Carrot/Fraser!

To be really honest, it was my son who pointed it out. I think we watched the first series of 'Due South' arouind the same time Carrot was introduced. Since then I've not seen him as anyone else. Even to the 'human' wolf companion, now I think of it...


15 Nov 07 - 08:54 PM (#2194959)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: The Walrus

Wyrd Sister,

I like the idea of Paul Gross (Benton Fraser) as Carrot (so, does that mean the dog 'playing' Deifebaker as Angua in Wolf form?)
------
Richard Bridge,

I agree, David Jason is too old for Rincewind, the actor needs to be young and thin (he does spend his life running from everything).
-------
Ernest,

Pete Postletwaite as Colon? Oh No, he's totally the wrong shape. Colon is a middle aged man run to fat (at one point it is said that he fits his breasplate as a jelly fits a mould), perhaps William Simmons (Alf Ventress, the fat desk sergeant in 'Heartbeat' on TV) would be a better choice.
------
Nigel,

I think Billie Piper too young for Rosie Palm (except, maybe in Night Watch), I think Siobhan Redmond [(Midwife in "Mary Shelley's Frankenstein"(1994), Kate Higgins in "Beautiful People" (1999)], might, IMHO, be a more suitable choice.
------

Walrus


16 Nov 07 - 03:16 AM (#2195089)
Subject: RE: Casting Terry Pratchett films
From: Richard Bridge

Yes, Walrus, Ventress would be good as Colon. Apt casting is still escaping us on many of these.

Vimes himself is still elusive. Many have not remembered his despairing vulnerabilility when first introduced - a failing alcoholic. Others forget his revolutionary pride as descendant of regicide, and his stubborn reliance on cheap boots. Then there is his tenderness for Lady Ramkin/Lady Vimes. Again there is his "policeman's policeman" persona as he re-grows. And the acuteness as he starts to find his feet in Vetinari's world of somoke and mirrors, and the half-lies of inter-state diplomacy.

In some ways Clint Eastwood has already done most of these, but he is now too old actually to cast for the part. I have never seen Tennant manage the inner despair, nor, quite, the pride.