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10 Feb 08 - 12:21 PM (#2258510) Subject: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: topical tom I hope that I'm not repeating a thread here, but there didn't seem to be one in the Forum or Digitrad. I have greatly enjoyed my relatively brief venture into Mudcat.Among many other things,I never dreamed of how many different versions there could be of the same song, though I know I should have learned that from the folk process as described by Pete Seeger and many others.Anyway, I could ramble on much longer but it's other people's turn now.By the by, negative aspects may also be included but with respect for other people's feelings and with fairness. |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:02 PM (#2258557) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Mrrzy All KINDS of stuff on songs I never knew about although I knew the .song... |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:05 PM (#2258559) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bert I've always said "Everything I needed to know I learned from Mudcat!" |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:14 PM (#2258564) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bee-dubya-ell I've learned how to do a Blue Clicky Thing. (I haven't learned how to be a smart-ass. I already knew how to do that before I got here.) |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:17 PM (#2258568) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Richard Bridge That not all "online communities" are sex-games in disguise. |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:32 PM (#2258579) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: catspaw49 And Tom.....Some subjects are worth revisiting every now and again. This has often been discussed here but its normal to talk about it every so often. There is so much more here than music if you want it. Very few sites become as "intimate," for lack of a better word, as the 'Cat. I came here in '98 and have seen the reactions of people here including myself, in all manner of situations. Mostly I have seen the best of what people can be but occasionally I've seen the worst. It makes Mudcat much like any other part of life. I get a kick out some who rag on the joint saying its nothing but another message board. For some reason though they keep coming back. We have someone posting on the political threads at the moment who swears undying contempt (for the past 7 or 8 years) for the place and yet can't seem to stay away. She and a few others like Gargoyle are kinda' our "In-House Trolls." But ain't that a lot like the 3D world too? I've learned more than I ever needed or wanted to know on some subjects and found myself amazed at the depth of knowledge and intelligence that inhabits this place. I've laughed til I've cried at some of the wit and humor. And I've simply cried over losing close friends I have made here, many of whom I never met in the 3D. It didn't make their friendship or their loss any less real. I've had the privilege of inflicting my incredibly warped sense of humor on the place and also sharing the most personal details of my life with one of the most supportive communities I have ever known......in any fashion. Don't let anyone tell you that the 'Cat isn't a "place." The people here have pulled me through some tough times and I hope I have helped out when they needed an ear or a good thought. We're glad you're here Tom and I hope you enjoy your stay.......and that its a long one. ...........your stay that is............well, that too but I was referring to your stay here and not your dick.............but then again you probably figured that out................or maybe not..................hell, I dunno'.............just skip this paragraph....................or not........... Spaw |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:36 PM (#2258585) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: topical tom catspaw49: LOL! |
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10 Feb 08 - 01:42 PM (#2258590) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Lonesome EJ I concur with what Catspaw said, except for the dick references. I have been visiting the Mudcat for nine years now, and have made some very good friends here, had some good arguments, engaged in some creative writing, and been praised, castigated, or ignored when appropriate. I've also been stimulated to learn more about playing and appreciating acoustic music, and find that the eclectic nature of the discourse here is conducive to acquiring at least a modicum of knowledge in multiple areas of traditional music forms. And...oh yeah...Thanks, Max! |
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10 Feb 08 - 02:55 PM (#2258662) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Beer Since joining the Mud I have met the following great people in person I otherwise would never have met. Bobad Peace Bankley Bee Gnu Noah Zacharin Cet Charmion Susan of DT Dick Greenhaus Emma B Rehab I and 2 John F. Weldon Bob Ryszkiewiez And two whom I have met but won't identify their mudcat name to me. Topical Tom and C. Ham. I will find out eventually. Then there are all the other folks whom have been so supportive, friendly, kind and pricks. Love you all. Beer (adrien) |
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10 Feb 08 - 03:03 PM (#2258666) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Alice I've learned a lot more about folk music in the last 10 years than I would have without mudcat. I learned songs and song origins and lots more "extra" stuff. I also learned that, like everywhere, there are people who are wonderful in a group and a few who are not. |
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10 Feb 08 - 03:24 PM (#2258690) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: gnu All of the above... and below, with one exception. |
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10 Feb 08 - 03:45 PM (#2258723) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: topical tom Personally, it's just great to be able to converse with so many singer-musicians, true scolars of the music I so love.Before Mudcat there was nowhere that I could learn the words to old songs and chat about them with people I now consider my friends.I hope I have learned to be more thorough in my research.How easy it is to be sure something is a fact which, upon hearing from others, is not so!What a treasury of music and knowledge Mudcat is! |
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10 Feb 08 - 03:48 PM (#2258733) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: topical tom Oh, and the humour too! LOL! |
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11 Feb 08 - 09:54 AM (#2259394) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Rapparee What humor? Everything here is dead serious and all those who post are sober tee-totalers. All of the women wear their hair in a tightly wrapped bun and wear burkas, all of the men where highly starched shirts, scratchy wool suits, pince-nez glasses, and work as accountants. That's what I learned from Mudcat. And that the trumpet is the instrument of the gods and goddesses.... |
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11 Feb 08 - 10:35 AM (#2259411) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bill D In addition to most of the things mentioned by others, I've learned a lot about myself. In conversing about many interesting topics, I spent time composing ideas & answers much more slowly than I would have in person: often having days or weeks to consider my feelings or positions. I have learned to hone and refine my comments and perhaps revise a few of them! *wry grin*. There are so many folks here with different positions, attitudes, knowlege...and yes...even weirdnesses... that I have learned to moderate how I interact with them. Maybe *I* am a bit of a better person for having hung out here for over 11 years. (yes...since late Oct. of 96!) |
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11 Feb 08 - 10:41 AM (#2259415) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: MMario I used to think there wasn't enough time in the day. Thanks to the MudCat - I now *KNOW* there isn't enough time in the day. |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:00 AM (#2259430) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace I've learned and that about sums it up. (I'm trying out that 'invisible' writing.) |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:03 AM (#2259432) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bill D "I've Got Plenty of Nothin'"??? *grin* |
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11 Feb 08 - 11:22 AM (#2259452) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: John MacKenzie That I really DO dislike Wee Jimmie Krankie! G |
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11 Feb 08 - 12:14 PM (#2259522) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,rock chick Joined just over 5 years ago and found some great people right across the globe who have helped in all sorts of manner, music etc etc, alas as with the humans species I have also found some complete arses, and trolls, who can and will lie and are deceitful beyond believe, although saying that it is a very small percent, thank god. Some Catters have helped me through some very tough moments, and to them i am truly grateful, and I hope I have been able to give some of that back when it was needed. All in all I have made some good honest friends, found some great music and hope this will continue for many years to come. rc |
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11 Feb 08 - 12:24 PM (#2259528) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Big Al Whittle don't try to explain, its too complicated.....just express yourself and walk off! I think you should denounce those liars and cheats and arseholes rock chick! best wishes al |
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11 Feb 08 - 12:45 PM (#2259542) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: PeadarOfPortsmouth I have learned... * an incredible amount of history about the songs I heard growing up * how to be a better singer, storyteller and musician (thanks) * that most Mudcatters are a fun-loving bunch of people with whom I'd gladly share a pint (anytime, really!) * that the VAST majority of Mudcatters are supportive to newcomers to the tradition (thanks again) * that some Mudcatters are self-righteous folk snobs who only seem to log-on in order to validate their self-worth (bugger off, the quicker the better) But the most shocking thing I've learned is this: * NO ONE CAN AGREE ON WHAT FOLK MUSIC IS! Peter |
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11 Feb 08 - 01:26 PM (#2259583) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace I can agree on what it is, Peadar. It's those other folks . . . . |
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11 Feb 08 - 01:35 PM (#2259594) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bill D "NO ONE CAN AGREE ON WHAT FOLK MUSIC IS!" yup...we even have trouble agreeing on what it ISN'T! |
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11 Feb 08 - 01:37 PM (#2259595) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace LOLOL |
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11 Feb 08 - 01:56 PM (#2259616) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos It 's not so much that we COULDN'T; but its like that old story of putting a million monkeys into a room with typewriters and expecting them to come up, eventually, with a complete Shakespearean text. Sure, they could do it. But they wouldn't hang around long enough to prove it to anyone. Same thing here. We just found the subject too deep and time consuming to stick to long enough! :D A |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:03 PM (#2259621) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Severn Well.....if someone could only Amos in the right direction....... |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:14 PM (#2259632) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: john f weldon Like Beer, I've ended up meeting or communicating with some cool people (like Beer). Frank Hamilton also comes to mind. I've learned that people can become steamed at the most innocent remarks, and have very strong opinions on topics both weighty and flakey. I've found that when I inadvertently cause someone to let loose a string of vituperation, it's strangely enjoyable; almost as good as a compliment. I imagine steam belching from their ears, as I smile seraphically, and head off for the more serene world of Facebook. |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:17 PM (#2259637) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace I would, but I don't understand what he said. He seems to be indicating that The Bard's works were dome by a million typewriters with monkeys in them, but the monkeys didn't survive long enough to prove how deeply they were consumed by the stick. Is that it? |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:21 PM (#2259639) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Wesley S The Mudcat has taught me that I love the music of Nic Jones. And that some people are just too pigheaded to argue with. So I try not to. But sometimes they suck me in. |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:45 PM (#2259649) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos SUck you IN? Wesley???!?!! I would NEVER!!!!! Peace: no, man, it's the monkeys who have the typewriters, dig? And they type all day!! ANd finally one of the scientists jumps up and down and yells in excitement, "We've got something!!! We've got something!!!!" He grabs the sheet out of one monkey's typewriter, and reads, "To be, or not to be, that is YUIY&*(*(HB+@E$%^%&(pogkl;sn." Kinda like that... A |
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11 Feb 08 - 02:49 PM (#2259655) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace OH. |
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11 Feb 08 - 03:19 PM (#2259689) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bill D hmmmpppfff... I'd be willing to bet the monkeys would do e.e. cummings first....after they finished Robert Frost. |
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11 Feb 08 - 03:30 PM (#2259699) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Lonesome EJ Yeah, Amos. Infinite patience would also be required of the proofreaders of such an experiment. Imagine the frustration of getting to the last speech in A Midsummer Night's Dream and reading and, as I am an honest Puck, if we have unearned luck now to scape the serpent's tongue we will make amends ere long; Else the Puck a liar call. So goodnight unto you all. Give me your hands if we be friends, and a ham sandwich with extra mayo and having to shout "my God we almost had it!" And then realizing the same mistake was also likely to be repeated an infinite number of times. The mind boggles. |
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11 Feb 08 - 03:36 PM (#2259707) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos ROFLMAO!!! The mind, indeed, is bogglèd!! A |
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11 Feb 08 - 04:37 PM (#2259772) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Rowan I've found some wonderfully quirky people. And, LonesomeEJ, keep that creative writing coming; your next instalment of Tolkien Outtakes is overdue and we want you onto it without distraction by Will. Cheers, Rowan |
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12 Feb 08 - 09:55 AM (#2260335) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Roger the Skiffler 1)To do blue clickies 2)To proof read before sending 3)To check facts before posting (now all I have to do is remember to do 1-3) ....oh and I've picked up a few more obscure artists for my blues & skiffle CD collection, learned the proper words to several songs I thought I knew (now all I have to do is learn to sing them in tune)and learned of the amazing generosity of this community (thanks for all the CDs & help guys, you know who you are!). The nasty bits I ignore. RtS (and thanks for all the jokes) |
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12 Feb 08 - 09:58 AM (#2260337) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace I awlways proofraed before sneding. Thats' a given. |
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12 Feb 08 - 12:47 PM (#2260512) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: katlaughing I have learned, among many things, that certain islands of Greece are superb spots for vicarious vacations with much hilarity, wonderful music, and the best ever descriptive writing for those of us who go there only in our office chairs. Thanks, RtS! |
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12 Feb 08 - 02:55 PM (#2260634) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: greg stephens Well I have learnt that the world is a much nicer place than I had imagined, there are some very generous and lovely people about. There are also one or two exceedingly unpleasant trolls. That I am by no means the only person in the world obsessed with the study of folk music. That no two people agree on the definition of what we all talk about. That there's a woman who likes Seth Lakeman a lot, and another woman who doesn't. That Iraq and Israel are thread subjects best left alone That some Americans understand irony, but not many (The most important lesson) think very carefully and reread before you press that "submit message" That Sir JOhn from Hull is the funniest writer in the world. That you should not come home from the pub after half a dozen pints of the landlord's best, and expect to write coherently about the Myxolydian mode. That there are some people here who know an absolutely fantastic amount of stuff about folk music. How to make hash browns(not that anyone agreed about that, either) That will do for starters |
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12 Feb 08 - 03:16 PM (#2260662) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: PeadarOfPortsmouth Greg, Half the time, I couldn't even spell Myxolydian after coming home from the pub. (Of course, I'm a bit dodgey on it before going to the pub as well.) Peter |
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12 Feb 08 - 03:20 PM (#2260671) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Herga Kitty I have learned that the Young Student Sent Down in His Prime was written by McGrath of Harlow and MikeofNorthumbria And when I see a letter to the Guardian from Greg Stephens I suspect it's from a member of the Boat Band. And that Canberra Chris's mother was born in the road where I now live, so the world is really quite small. Kitty |
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12 Feb 08 - 03:39 PM (#2260711) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace I have learned that there is much about folk music I really like. |
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12 Feb 08 - 03:57 PM (#2260733) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: gnu Much to do about all folk? |
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12 Feb 08 - 11:55 PM (#2261106) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Gurney I've learned that there are a lot of people pretty much like me. Doesn't seem to matter much where they were born. I've learned that if I need wise council, I can get it here, usually from direct experience. I've learned to appreciate some odd people. Well, who I consider odd. I've learned that not everyone on line is a wanker, and a lot of non-wankers end up here, even if they aren't that fond of folk music. Even some trolls stay and become members. I think. As someone further up said, I've learned to have second thoughts before submitting. |
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13 Feb 08 - 10:21 AM (#2261372) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bryn Pugh I have made some lovely friends ; and (believe it or not) I have learned to guard me tongue and not jump in at the deep end. I have learned that I have a broader back than I thought, when on the butt end of a troll's malice. I have learned that the nice Catters outnumber the others by a long chalk. I never fail to be amazed, amused and educated, on the 'Cat. Long may it flourish. Blessed Be, and be blessed, all. |
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13 Feb 08 - 11:56 AM (#2261459) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: gnu I'll try again.... ahem... Much ado about all folk? Maybe it's just me. |
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13 Feb 08 - 12:08 PM (#2261471) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos Gnu: THis time, I think it is.... A |
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13 Feb 08 - 12:35 PM (#2261492) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Lonesome EJ Alright, gnu, I'll try. After 9 years posting here, I've decided you're sweet folk all. |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:11 PM (#2261526) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Little Hawk All of the above.... And... I have learned several new words and phrases, courtesy of Amos, such as "persiflage", "frisson", "I swan", and "bloviate", for example. I sprinkle them now casually through idle conversations with friends and acquaintances, and it reduces them to stunned and perplexed silence. They have no idea what I'm talking about, but they think I'm a genius. It's fun! ;-) And I owe it all to Amos. |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:29 PM (#2261547) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos Ah, Gnu was being TOO abstruse for understanding by fools such as I. Much ado about sweet folk all, yes. A |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:33 PM (#2261550) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Big Al Whittle Fotunately I knew everything before joining mudcat, but its been a pleasure to share my enlightened state with you all. |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:42 PM (#2261557) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Little Hawk Ha! Spoken like a kindred soul, Weelittledrummer. ;-) Do you admire yourself in the mirror for lengthy periods each morning, as I do? I've been trying to make out which is my best profile, but I just can't decide! They are both so perfect. (A derisive snort is heard from Chongo, who is over there on the couch, disassembling and cleaning the Tommy Gun...) |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:49 PM (#2261564) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace Many things I think. Humility when reading the words written by others in their songs and posts; sadness when reading the depths of despair people reach at different times; conscience when someone posts from a POV I'd never considreed. I've learned that a kind word goes far with greater ease than a harsh word. That compared to so many people here I really don't know all that much about anything. Learned that there are folks here who are encouraging--others discouraging. That a smile goes better than a frown, and that there are some utterly wonderful humourists on Mudcat. |
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13 Feb 08 - 01:50 PM (#2261565) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: PoppaGator I've learned that there is something called "Morris Dancing," but I still don't know what it is. I've learned that different countries had entirely different and separate "folk revivals" about 40-some-odd years ago. I've learned that many people around the world who profess an interest in folk music have difficulty agreeing on much of anything, BUT. . . most of them are very articulate writers of opinionated prose. And I thought I was the only one! |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:04 PM (#2261580) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Beer I learned that I have a henway. |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:07 PM (#2261582) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Peace Really? What's a henway? |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:12 PM (#2261586) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: PoppaGator About ten stone. What's a stone? |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:12 PM (#2261587) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Severn Yes, beer, but it's covered with updoc. |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:28 PM (#2261598) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Amos Not much. Snew? A |
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13 Feb 08 - 02:44 PM (#2261613) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Big Mick I have learned that some folks will see a conspiracy in the choosing one outhouse instead of the other at a folk festival. (see current idiotic discussions of such stellar names in science and engineering as Willie Nelson and Rosie O'Donnell) Mick |
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13 Feb 08 - 04:16 PM (#2261680) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: gnu I have learned that many good 'Cats don't post so much anymore below the line because they just can't be arsed with all the BS and antagonism, even though it's a lot better than it was by times. Nice to see a few of you down here with the rest of us lower lifes. And, you know who you are, you uppers, you. :-) |
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14 Feb 08 - 01:32 PM (#2262404) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: bankley how to get in touch with Murdoch.... still don't have the blue clicky link thingamajig mastered |
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14 Feb 08 - 01:37 PM (#2262412) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Wesley S Mick - I've heard stories that you always pick the outhouse on the left at folk festivals. Doesn't that PROVE you're a leftist leaning commie???? It's a code isn't it? |
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14 Feb 08 - 01:49 PM (#2262425) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Little Hawk There are usually at least 10, even 20 outhouses in a giant line at a folk festival...so it isn't just a question of picking "the one on the left". No, no, it is much more complex and esoteric than that. One must observe the outhouse choices of a folkie meticulously over a period of several years, bringing in advanced numerology in order to understand exactly where his political sympathies lie. Having done so, one can finally arrive at an absolute certaintly about something that never mattered much in the first place...but OH, the satisfaction of knowing that one knows! |
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14 Feb 08 - 01:59 PM (#2262436) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: catspaw49 How appropriate Hawk. I've always said you're a guy who just has to stick his nose into things................ Spaw |
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14 Feb 08 - 02:05 PM (#2262446) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Donuel How to better learn and how to strive for understanding. |
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14 Feb 08 - 02:08 PM (#2262451) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Little Hawk Hey, Spaw? You need to talk to this bird... the Foul Owl |
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14 Feb 08 - 11:03 PM (#2262794) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Azizi I have learned that posting on this online forum is a meaning full, often educational, sometimes enjoyable, sometimes maddening, sometimes energizing, and sometimes emotionally draining form of interaction. I have learned that a person's spirit can be communicated vividly through their words, so much so that over time and/or as the result of a large number of posts in a short time, it can seem as though you know other people who post here very well, even if you've never met them-and may never meet them-face to face. I have learned that you can very much like some things about some people, and very much dislike some other things about the same people. I have learned that because of the positive experiences I have had relating with them on this forum, the positions that some people take on issues that I consider important matter to me so much more than the same positions taken by other people who post here who I have not related to [with?} as well. I have learned that I have a lot to learn- about music, folk cultures, and life itself. {Actually, I knew the last four things before my involvement on Mudcat, but I know them more deeply now than I did before} |
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14 Feb 08 - 11:29 PM (#2262804) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Riginslinger Azizi makes a really good point. It amazes me sometimes that I can agree completely with a poster on one issue, and disagree just as completely on something else. |
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12 Mar 08 - 12:11 PM (#2286453) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,Appaloosa Lady I've learned that sometimes you find a diamond, amongst the pebbles. |
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12 Mar 08 - 12:45 PM (#2286494) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Bill D I'll bet Demosthenes broke a couple of teeth. |
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12 Mar 08 - 03:24 PM (#2286661) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,Neil D I came to Mudcat via Google while trying to learn what a Hogeye was. I learned that it is a type of boat that is pulled by a rope. Now does anyone know what Dylan means by "Eating Hogeye beef in a Hogeye town". Since then I have discovered Planxty (and the various members solo work), Nic Jones, Dick Gaughan, The Corries, and many other wonderful musicians. All thanks to Mudcat with a big assist from You-tube which I barely knew existed before Mudcat's Blue Clickies steered me there. I've also learned much about current and historic events and that 'Spaw is one funny dude. Some of his Cletus stories like the one about the recycled Christmas trees or the one about the blow-up dolls and explosives make me LOL, like reading Twain used to do. (Uh... btw thats Mark not Shania.) Any more installments coming our way? |
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12 Mar 08 - 04:47 PM (#2286741) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,Appaloosa Lady "I've learned that sometimes you find a diamond, amongst the pebbles." "I'll bet Demosthenes broke a couple of teeth." And...I've learned all about Demosthenes (thank you Bill) :-) Demosthenes 384-322 BC As a youth in ancient Athens, Demosthenes had a severe speech impediment, and people jeered at his stuttering when he addressed his first large public assembly. Demosthenes, the son of a prosperous sword maker, was orphaned when he was only 8. His guardians so pilfered his estate that little was left when Demosthenes came of age. Seeking justice, he successfully pleaded his own case and won damages. To improve his elocution, he talked with pebbles in his mouth and recited verses while running along the seashore over the roar of the waves. |
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12 Mar 08 - 08:10 PM (#2286917) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: DougR Tolerance. DougR |
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13 Mar 08 - 12:55 AM (#2287106) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie A journalist friend of mine says, "If you want to find out what happened, write what you THINK happened and go wait by the phone." Mudcat has let me learn things I knew I didn't know. Sorcha must know when I'm going to post a question ahead of time, because the answers are there before the question is finished, or so it seems. Mudcat has also let me learn more about things I thought I "knew" but didn't. That's sometimes a chastening experience. Sokratic questioning sometimes hurts the brain but in the end you get a better answer for the NEXT time somebody asks the question. Recently I tried out another site, for the simple reason that some folks on that site had dissed Mudcat rather egregiously. I don't get it. Mudcat is the real world. "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen" type thing, and thank you, Harry Truman. I already conclude that I will learn more here in a week than in a year on the other site. And the older I get the less I care about tip-toeing around, so just give it to me straight out, Mudcat style. But be polite, maggot. Chicken Charlie |
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13 Mar 08 - 01:36 AM (#2287116) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: The Fooles Troupe The going price is $4000 + ... |
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13 Mar 08 - 04:35 AM (#2287145) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: Gervase Quite a bit - but mainly that there is no virtue in entering into an argument in the hope of changing someone's mind. Below the line (and even sometimes above it) one can venture an opinion that, however impeccably researched and lucidly written, will attract a negative knee-jerk comment in seconds. It's a bit like a popular beach on one of those rare, hot summer days; there are respectable families, sunbathers, dreamers, exhaustingly active types and just a few boisterous and ill-mannered kids who take delight in kicking over sandcastles. There may even be someone playing music quietly to themselves and and a few friends. All in all, it's a nice beach, though, and there's no shortage of sand... |
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13 Mar 08 - 04:41 AM (#2287146) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: GUEST,Appaloosa Lady Beautifully expressed, Gervase. :-) |
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15 Mar 08 - 03:18 AM (#2288896) Subject: RE: BS: What Have You Learned From Mudcat? From: semi-submersible All of the above, especially: That an electronic, virtual world can harbour a truly human community. That simple elements (alphabet, basic communication equipment, simple procedures that anyone at a public library computer can jump in and use) breed complexity (wisdom, give and take, healing, hurtfulness, learning) even here outside the real universe. But most online communities are not "alive" like this one. That in this cyberspace, one can ask for help at a time when family and friends are fast asleep, and someone will answer from Australia or Iceland. That each visit here costs us real life hours from our lives, and can be well worth it. (Great mix of feeling, ideas, and good laughs, and sometimes I can add something.) Maureen on the west coast of Canada |