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18 May 99 - 08:30 AM (#79418) Subject: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Peter T. "80% of life is just showing up." - Woody Allen. |
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18 May 99 - 10:25 AM (#79439) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Art Thieme You can lead a horse to water, but you can't rip his lips off. Art Thieme (copy written) |
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18 May 99 - 10:32 AM (#79441) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Bert Well I only showed up 80% today, is that OK? Bert. |
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18 May 99 - 10:34 AM (#79442) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing How do I lose that 20%? **smile** |
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18 May 99 - 10:40 AM (#79448) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: kb in Oklahoma There is something much more important than the Y2K crisis, ETERNITY!!! In 26 million years, will you even remember what happened on January 1, 2000? "Are you ready for Y2K, the year 2000? Do you know Jesus Christ as your personal savior? If not, then you aren't even ready for tomorrow." (No problem with going into the new millenium, i.e. 2001) Think about forever in Heaven or in Hell, KB |
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18 May 99 - 11:03 AM (#79454) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Bert Hi KB, I think you wandered into the wrong thread. Try here Bert :-) |
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18 May 99 - 11:10 AM (#79457) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: annamill Thank you Bert. Anna |
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18 May 99 - 11:15 AM (#79462) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: kb Bert and Anna, maybe I got it in the wrong place but you two both saw it and will maybe think about it from time to time. KB |
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18 May 99 - 11:16 AM (#79463) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The_one_and_only_Dai KB - out of genuine curiosity, what do you get out of this? |
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18 May 99 - 11:17 AM (#79464) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing "Jesus was a Capricorn. He ate organic foods." Our signs aren't compatible.
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18 May 99 - 11:59 AM (#79473) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: LEJ Just one of those cyber-doorknockers. |
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18 May 99 - 12:04 PM (#79474) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Penny S. What sort of person gets people to love him by threatening them with torture? The God I meet in prayer isn't like that. The Jesus of the Gospels isn't like that. Love God because God is love-worthy. No other reason counts. Penny
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18 May 99 - 01:40 PM (#79509) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing "It is the nature of a civilisation dominated by fundamentalist religions to find so-called evil within other denominations which do not adhere to its beliefs. Satan is basically a usurpation of symbolism and invention of the Christian church meant to scare people into conforming to its particular beliefs. "From the Metaphysical Bible Dictionary, the ancient Aramaic translation of Satan is defined as `lier in wait; accuser;,etc.' The metaphysical or symbolic meaning is defined as, `the deceiving phase of mind in man that has fixed ideas of Truth.' "Humankind's ego, negative thoughts and actions are manifestations of the accusing or critical consciousness which is out of harmony with God. "The history of many Christian churches is one of diviseness, hatred, genocide, and subjugation of native peoples all over the world and among fellow Christians of differing beliefs. "In its aftermath is a legacy of continued hatred and self-righteousness which does not reflect the kindness, balance, and open-mindedness of true Christianity. During this age of Aquarius, we see reflected in paganism, some Christian churches, and other faiths, the true principles of balance, non-violence, peace, love, and harmony that Jesus taught." Excerpts from "Pagan belief seeks a life of harmony" Copyright 1996 by Kathleen LaFrance |
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18 May 99 - 02:15 PM (#79525) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: campfire Hmmm....can I be 20% pagan? (JUST KIDDING!!!) |
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18 May 99 - 02:15 PM (#79527) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles Kat How does the tune go for that one? Great stuff.
The clergy dazzle us with heaven Leon Rosselson 'The World Turned Upside Down' Sure got to do a lot of thinking, this May 18th! |
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18 May 99 - 02:18 PM (#79528) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles The World Turned Upside Down |
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18 May 99 - 02:21 PM (#79532) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles More thoughts for the same day May 18th |
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18 May 99 - 02:24 PM (#79535) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing Thanks, Shamb. Did you see Rick's note about his friend's song, "Til All Thy Names Are One"? Beautiful song. He sang it on his radio show a couple of weeks ago. I'll see if I can find it. I think it is in the Rick Fielding's radio show thread. Campfire, no prob! I am a mix of so much, I figure I've got 16ths in me! Hell, maybe even 64ths! kat |
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18 May 99 - 02:27 PM (#79538) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: SeanM There's been a lot of research done on who Jesus was and what he actually said. I won't go in to too much detail, but from the reputable sources I've read, about %20-%30 of what's in the bible can be verified as having been part of his teachings, with the rest being tacked on over the years in various religions to put more of an angle on 'enforcement'. Being devoutly non-Christian, I still say that from what I believe are his actual teachings, that he was a wonderful person and I wish I could have met and spoken to him. Other than that, put me down on the side of 'Organized religion (Christian and otherwise) has done more to exalt humanity than any other force in existence, as well as having done more to destroy it' (Can't remember who said it, but I'm pretty sure that's the quote) M |
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18 May 99 - 02:28 PM (#79540) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles Kat Yes, thanks, I did see the song, I do seem to be able to sniff the good ones out. I'm sure it will be easier to sing than yours. |
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18 May 99 - 02:35 PM (#79545) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing Hey! Shamb! You don't want to try to fit all that into a tune? Whyevernot!**grin** Here's the link to that threadclick here Yes, Sean, here are the names of a couple of realy good books about that: The Mystical Life of Jesus by H. Spencer Lewis, Ph.D., F.R.C., and, The Secret Doctrines of Jesus same author. ISBN numbers are 0-912057-46-7 and, 0-912057-91-2 Peace, katlaughing |
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18 May 99 - 02:37 PM (#79546) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: SeanM Just remembered the person I couldn't remember earlier... Joseph Campbell has done a LOT of research in this area. One of his (many) books is a detailed dissection of the Old Testament, with historical backing and research on all events therein. Don't agree with everything he says, but he DOES give one a whole lot to think about. M |
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18 May 99 - 02:41 PM (#79551) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: puzzled oh, for the life of a bee. To visit flowers all day and hum my own song. |
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18 May 99 - 04:01 PM (#79575) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Allan C. Spring is sprung. Da grass is riz. I wonders where Da posies is! I was just feeling a little silly and wasn't up to discussing non-Christian co-existentialism or whatever. |
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18 May 99 - 04:33 PM (#79584) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Penny S. Sean M, try a translation of the Gospel of Thomas. Penny |
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18 May 99 - 04:41 PM (#79586) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles Allan C. Nice that. I can hear Jimmy Durante saying it. |
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18 May 99 - 04:44 PM (#79587) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing Allan C. : I wrote this for a phone message in the spring of 1998:
The Sun is growing stronger And, in the Spring of 1995, when it didn't seem winter was ever going to be over:
Has Spring sprung? kat |
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18 May 99 - 04:56 PM (#79591) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Allan C. Shambles, now that you mention it, so can I. It was something my father used to recite. One of his others was: I wish I was a little egg A-sittin' in a tree So I could fall out of my nest And cover thee with me Kat, I love your spring poems! I also have very much enjoyed the various quotes you have shared - especially those from your own writings. |
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18 May 99 - 04:57 PM (#79592) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing Thanks so much, Allan C.! |
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18 May 99 - 05:10 PM (#79597) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Sheye Speaking of Woody Allen: "To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition." -- Woody Allen |
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19 May 99 - 01:34 PM (#79858) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: The Shambles What a day that was! |
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19 May 99 - 01:50 PM (#79861) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Matthew B. Yeesh. As a Jew, I often feel like a cat in a room full of rocking chairs when everybody starts talking about Jesus, Satan, damnation, and all that other good stuff. My skin starts to crawl and a voice inside says: Get out of here before somebody see you and says "Look, a Jew; let's get him!" |
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19 May 99 - 04:32 PM (#79892) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Fadac 100% wica, 20% tolerant. ------------ A joke: Jesus, Joseph, and Mary were doing chores around their home in Nazareth when suddenly, Jesus ran outside to Joseph, and asked, "Did you call me?" "No, I'm sorry," Joseph replied, "I just hit my thumb with the hammer...again." ------------- Happy Wed. |
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19 May 99 - 04:44 PM (#79897) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: katlaughing Merry Meet, fadac! Good joke! Welcome to the Mudcat! MathewB. Have we really ever made you feel that way? I think there are plenty of us here who are also non-Christians. I hope you haven't felt singles out. I didn't even know you were Jew and it doesn't matter to me. I enjoy your postings, even when we don't agree and would hope you would not feel compelled, by the voices *smile* to leave. katlaughing |
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19 May 99 - 04:52 PM (#79898) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: LEJ Would it make you feel any better, Matthew if I told you all Christians weren't anti-semitic. Heck, there's a vicious rumor goin around that even JESUS was a Jew! Of course, as Kinky Friedman says "they just ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore." LEJ (low-profile Christian who sees nothing wrong with sitting in a sweat-lodge wearing a mazzuzah if that gets you there) |
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19 May 99 - 05:17 PM (#79903) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: denny The Paradox The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings, but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints; we spend more, but have less; we buy more, but enjoy it less. We have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, but less time; we have more degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, but more problems; more medicine, but less wellness. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often. We learned how to make a living, but not a life; We've added years to life, not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor. We've conquered outer space, but not inner space; we've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul; we've split the atom, but not our prejudice; we have higher incomes, but lower morals; we've become long on quantity, but short on quality. These are the times of tall men, and short character; steep profits, and shallow relationships. These are the times of world peace, but domestic warfare; more leisure, but less fun; more kinds of food, but less nutrition. These are the days of two incomes, but more divorce; of fancier houses, but broken homes. It is a time when there is much in the show window and nothing in the stockroom; a time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to make a difference or just hit delete.
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19 May 99 - 05:31 PM (#79907) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) 19? From: Fadac Denny, Gee Whiz. Way too heavy a thought for a Wed. Those are like Monday thoughts. Lighten up a bit. How about some nice happy Thursday thoughts? Like, POETS day: Piss Off Early It's Thursday. From the good old UK. |
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19 May 99 - 06:45 PM (#79925) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Terry Great thoughts, Denny! May I copy them and send them to friends who don't visit the Mudcat? |
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19 May 99 - 07:02 PM (#79929) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Matthew B. Dearest kat, Of course you have never made me feel uncomfortable. You're all cuddly and yummy and fun. I just get that way when the bible-thumping evangelical energy in the room gets too high. I get very wary when I'm around massive gatherings of "the converted." The rallies at Nuremburg in 1939 were considered to be joyful events by those present, but the repercussions were not. I am certainly not Christo-phobic. I even love Christmas, and most Christian songs. (I used to sing a capella sacred music of the Renaissance with the Renaissance Street Singers.) I even admire its teachings. I just ain't inclined that way myself. Many of my closest, dearest friends are devout Christians, and on rare occasions I have even joined them in prayer (God knows I need it)... but only when they fill the room with love (as opposed to Messianic fervor). |
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19 May 99 - 07:13 PM (#79934) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Matthew B. Speaking of, um, music (remember that?), does anybody have the lyrics to Kinky Friedman's They just ain't makin' Jews like Jesus anymore? |
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19 May 99 - 09:37 PM (#79965) Subject: RE: Thought for the Day (May 18) From: Barbara You know, my friends, I remember the good old days at Mudcat where we responded to some of these thoughts by not responding to them. Blessings, Barbara |