BS: The Peace sign

09 Apr 08 - 12:48 PM (#2311208)
Subject: BS: The Peace sign
From: Donuel

No one has ever brand named or copywrited it.

whats up with that

A green car maker might be afraid Mercedes would sue them?
Is an organic food distrubutor afraid they would lose staunch republican buyers?

Mudcat should buy the copywrite today.

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09 Apr 08 - 12:49 PM (#2311209)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Wesley S

Peace - Bruce - already owns it. Why do you think he's so rich??

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09 Apr 08 - 12:53 PM (#2311215)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Donuel

No really I heard this on radio yesterday.
by know I bet someone has snapped it up.

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09 Apr 08 - 12:57 PM (#2311220)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Emma B

I think this one is still available.

Peace
'Em'

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09 Apr 08 - 01:12 PM (#2311243)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Peace

Hey, that's cool. I can figure out how you drew the plane, but how'd you do the circle around it?

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09 Apr 08 - 01:15 PM (#2311244)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: gnu

☮

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09 Apr 08 - 01:29 PM (#2311254)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Emma B

Darn! think I needed a bigger circle :)

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09 Apr 08 - 01:39 PM (#2311266)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Peace of cake.

☮

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09 Apr 08 - 02:34 PM (#2311326)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D

Now...I just have to figger out where these are stored, defined and listed in a chart!

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09 Apr 08 - 02:43 PM (#2311335)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: john f weldon

The one yr talking about, according to my memory, was designed by Bertrand Russell's Committee for Nuclear Disarmament back in the sixties. Whether they were clever enough to protect it, I know not.

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09 Apr 08 - 03:29 PM (#2311373)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Big Al Whittle

Who ya gonna call....

Nuke Busters!

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09 Apr 08 - 03:35 PM (#2311378)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Jim Dixon

I don't think you could register the peace sign as a trademark today, since it's already so popular.

Existing trademarks have been lost because of popular usage. See List of generic and genericized trademarks at Wikipedia.

But then, I'm only reasoning by analogy here, assuming the law applies to symbols in the same way it applies to verbal trademarks like "Coke".

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09 Apr 08 - 04:21 PM (#2311399)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Jack Blandiver

I've always understood the peace sign was a combination of the semaphore letters N (for Nuclear) & D (for Disarmament). Another account has it that the original symbol was an encircled Christian cross, the arms being 'dropped' when the Anglican Church objected.

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09 Apr 08 - 05:02 PM (#2311439)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: bobad

From Wikipedia

"This forked symbol was designed for the Direct Action Committee Against Nuclear War (DAC) and was adopted as its badge by the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) in Britain, and originally was used by the British nuclear disarmament movement. It was later generalised to become an international icon for the 1960s anti-war movement, and was also adopted by the counterculture of the time. It was designed and completed February 21, 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist in Britain for the April 4 march planned by DAC from Trafalgar Square, London to the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston in England[4].


The symbol itself is a combination of the semaphoric signals for the letters "N" and "D," standing for Nuclear Disarmament. In semaphore the letter "N" is formed by a person holding two flags in an upside-down "V," and the letter "D" is formed by holding one flag pointed straight up and the other pointed straight down. These two signals imposed over each other form the shape of the peace symbol. In the original design the lines widened at the edge of the circle.[5]


A conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's peasant before a firing squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

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09 Apr 08 - 05:05 PM (#2311441)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Peace

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Bill, you have just invited aliens to invade Earth. ARE YOU CRAZY?

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09 Apr 08 - 05:19 PM (#2311455)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Bill D

No, no! They only monitor messages in Klingon

They follow 'em Here

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09 Apr 08 - 08:07 PM (#2311628)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Sandra in Sydney

back in the late 70's a friend was teaching a toddler to make the peace sign.

After a bit of practice the lad showed off his new skill to his father - unfortunately he reversed his hand while waving it around as he was excitedly saying "Piss, Daddy, piss"

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10 Apr 08 - 07:18 AM (#2311927)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: gnomad

Which leads neatly to the (false, of course) origin of the sign circulating when I was a kid: that the sign was modelled on mens Y-front underwear...the kind that prevents fall-out.

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10 Apr 08 - 07:48 AM (#2311941)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: kendall

Years ago there was a sign that pictured the peace sign and the caption, "FOOTPRINT OF THE AMERICAN CHICKEN"

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20 Dec 08 - 04:22 PM (#2520871)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: Amos

Then there's Old Fat Naked Women For Peace, well worth thinking about.


A

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21 Dec 08 - 11:34 AM (#2521404)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Frogprince, in cold, cold Wisconsin

The sign has also been characterized as satanic, as it is "an upside down, broken, cross", supposedly deliberately designed as anti-Christian.

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21 Dec 08 - 12:07 PM (#2521437)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: bobad

Sigh.........if you would have read the previous posts Froggy, you would have seen that this satanic symbolism stuff is a bunch of fundie nonsense, no doubt cooked up by religious zealots to foster the righteous vs. the unsaved dichotomy they employ in order to maintain their flock safely penned.

"It was designed and completed February 21, 1958 by Gerald Holtom, a professional designer and artist in Britain for the April 4 march planned by DAC from Trafalgar Square, London to the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment at Aldermaston in England


A conscientious objector who had worked on a farm in Norfolk during the Second World War, Holtom later wrote to Hugh Brock, editor of Peace News, explaining the genesis of his idea in greater depth: "I was in despair. Deep despair. I drew myself: the representative of an individual in despair, with hands palm outstretched outwards and downwards in the manner of Goya's Peasant Before A Firing Squad. I formalised the drawing into a line and put a circle round it."

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21 Dec 08 - 09:19 PM (#2521875)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Frogprince, in cold, cold Wisconsin

Bobad, I'm sorry if I left the impression that I gave any credit to that interpretation of the peace sign; I don't, and I didn't think anyone here would

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21 Dec 08 - 09:38 PM (#2521893)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: number 6

I thought the peace sign was derived from the artist Frida Kahlo's peace dove ... specifically the dove she designed for a banner she carried in a demonstration im Mexico City in 1954 against the CIA organized military coup that overthrew the elected government of Guatemala.

biLL

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21 Dec 08 - 09:57 PM (#2521903)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: number 6

here is a picture of it ... if anyone is interested ...

Frida Kahlo peace dove

biLL

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22 Dec 08 - 06:35 PM (#2522543)
Subject: RE: BS: The Peace sign
From: GUEST,Allan s.

What is the differance between the V for victory sign in ww2 Palm IN AND palm OUT   If I am correct one was for victory and the other up yours?? or F--K you    I seem to remember it being used by Churchill..

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