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26 Apr 08 - 08:55 AM (#2326144) Subject: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Jim Saville (Shantyfreak) and I have been working up a discography of recordings of Cicely Fox Smith poems adapted for singing, in connection with our forthcoming anthology of this poet's works. Note in this list there is no credit to whoever adapted the poem for singing; that information is provided in full with each poem in the Anthology. We would very much appreciate any suggestions for recordings we may have overlooked in our survey, or any corrections for what we have found. The list is sorted by CD publication date: Breeze for a Bargeman, by Bob Roberts, © 1981 Race of Long Ago (Racing Clippers) Port of Dreams, by William Pint & Felicia Dale, © 1991 Tow-Rope Girls Making Waves, by Tom Lewis, William Pint & Felicia Dale, © 1992 Sou' Spain Seaboot Duff & Handspike Gruel, by Pinch o' Salt, © 1995 Sou' Spain, Cooper Ore, Eight Bells, Hoodoo, The Tow-Rope Girls, Let Her Go (a Tramp Shanty), Lee Fore Brace, Shanghai Passage, The Cape Horner, Peaceable Mister M'Gee, Home for Christmas - Old Style, A Sailor's Delight, Follow the Sea, The Half Loaf, Merchantmen Tinker Tailor Soldier Singer, by Tom Lewis, © 1995 150 Days Out from Vancouver Round the Corner, by William Pint and Felicia Dale, © 1997 The Tow-Rope Girls, Blue Peter Tomorrow's Tide, by Salt of the Earth, © 1998 A Wool Fleet Chorus, Copper Ore Constant Lovers, by Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman, © 2000 Limehouse Reach Bank Trollers, by Bob Webb, © 2000 150 Days Out from Vancouver Never a Cross Word, by Danny & Joyce McLeod, © 2002 The Capehorner, Tryphena's Extra Hand, The Stately Blackwaller, Port o' Dreams, Lee Fore Brace, So Long Away from It All, by Dave Webber and Anni Fentiman, © 2002 Race of Long Ago (Racing Clippers) Full Sail: Inside the Lid, by Gordon Morris, © 2002 Port o' Dreams, Racing Clippers, Mainsail Haul, The Convalescent, Tom Pascoe (Told at the Pilchards), Sea Change, The Extra Hand, Admiral Dugout, Stately Blackwaller, Mariquita, The Shipkeeper, See You in Liverpool Now & Then, by Johnny Collins, © 2002 Sailor Town Around the Harbour Town, by Dick Miles and Friends, © 2003 Sailor Town Tom Lewis 360º, by Tom Lewis, © 2003 Towrope Girls Long Road Home, by Peter Massey and Gordon Morris, © 2005 Conversation Book, The Long Road Home, A Parting, Blue Anchor Lane Uncommon Sailor Songs, by Charlie Ipcar, © 2004 Flying-Fish Sailor, Outward Bound, Shanghai Passage, Limehouse Reach, Port o' Dreams, Mariquita More Uncommon Sailor Songs, by Charlie Ipcar, © 2005 Rio Grande, Lee Fore Brace, Lumber, Hastings Mill, Old Fiddle, Rosario, Pacific Coast, So Long Rolling Down to Sailortown, by Roll & Go, © 2006 Outward Bound, So Long (All Coiled Down), Mariquita, Port o' Dreams Sing the Sun into the Sky, by Two Black Sheep & a Stallion, © 2006 Homeward (Home, Boys, Home) Closehauled on the Wind of a Dream, by Bob Zentz, © 2007 Ships & Folks, A Dog's Life, The Eternal feminine, The Blue Peter, Pictures, Sea Dream, Casey's Concertina, Ice: The Bosun's Story, The Tryphena's Extra Hand, The Portsmouth Road, Ships that Pass, The Red Duster, The Ballad of the Eatern Crown, Racing Clippers, The Tow-Rope Girls, Bill's Christmases, Eight Bells, Leave Her Johnny Old Sailor-Poets, by Charlie Ipcar, © 2007 Sailor Town, Shipmates (1914), A Ship in a Bottle, The Long Road Home Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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26 Apr 08 - 09:54 AM (#2326183) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: nutty There is a CD by Dogwatch from billingham UK that has some CFS songs on it DOGWATCH |
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26 Apr 08 - 10:27 AM (#2326200) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Saro Charley Noble, just to save confusion with a traditional song, the song I created from "Homeward" is called Home Lads home, not Home Boys Home, so if you are printing anything, could you give it its correct title? Thanks and good luck with the project Saro |
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26 Apr 08 - 07:20 PM (#2326555) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Nutty and Saro- Thanks for the reminder and the correction. Charley Noble |
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26 Apr 08 - 09:37 PM (#2326621) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble I'm thinking that the Harry Browns of Bristol have also recorded some C. Fox Smith poems. Ian "Nobby" Dye once send me his research notes of C. Fox Smith which were quite helpful. It's not clear from their website when their recording were made or what other recording they might have made previously. I've e-mailed them but if anyone else has information, it would be appreciated. I've also sent an e-mail to the Swansea based sea music group Baggyrinkle who have recorded at least one C. Fox Smith poem. And I've added The Keelers who recorded So Long and The North Sea Ground back in 1998. Another one which I've overlooked is Bob Walser's recording of Shanghai Brown, as arranged by Alan Fitzsimmons. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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27 Apr 08 - 05:28 PM (#2327130) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: stallion Saro, Charley didn't make the mistake, I did, it is called Home Boys Home on the cd , I had never heard of it before i had sung it and the cd was put out in a rush for an event and had a lot of mistakes in the "sleeve" notes which were entirely mine and for that I apologise. Peter |
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27 Apr 08 - 05:30 PM (#2327132) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Saro Hi peter, I realise it was just an error, so no problems here - glad you like the song! saro |
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27 Apr 08 - 09:04 PM (#2327236) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Peter and Saro- There is that danger with all good traditional style songs that one hears, the assumption that they are traditional. I've heard rumors that my adaptation of Hamish Maclaren's "Yangste River Shanty" is cropping up in many strange and exotic corners of this world, and is considered a traditional shanty. Hamish would be amused! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Apr 08 - 09:12 AM (#2327533) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble I've heard from Dave Robertson of the Swansea based sea music group Baggyrinkle. He confirms that they recorded "150 Days Out of Vancouver" on Old Swansea Town in 2000 and "Lee Fore Brace" on One More Pull in 2006. I've also heard from Nobby Dye of The Harry Browns of Bristol that he is reviewing their CD's for C. Fox Smith songs. I haven't heard back from Dogwatch yet to confirm the dates of their recordings. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Apr 08 - 01:38 PM (#2327797) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: stallion John Conolly tells a story of being in Ireland when a band introduced Fiddlers Green as "that good old Irish traditional song", he said he felt that there were too many to argue with! |
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28 Apr 08 - 03:48 PM (#2327921) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Here is the Harry Browns Discography via Nobby Dye: Shipshape and Harry Fashion, © 2005 Tow Rope Girls (arrangement by Stephen Derrick) Rolling Home to Bristol, © 2006 A Sea Burthen (tune by Jaqui Haigh) Raising Wind with The Harry Browns, © 2007 Sacramento (tune by John Knowler) Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Apr 08 - 05:10 PM (#2328009) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Found another one: Bung Up Bilge Free, by the Portsmouth Shantymen, © 2003 All Coiled Down (So Long), Tow-Rope Girls Reviewing this list, I find it odd that so few women lead C. Fox Smith songs. I suppose that there are relatively few women in sea music groups period. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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28 Apr 08 - 08:51 PM (#2328213) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Here's another important group that did an early recording of Sarah Morgan's adaptation of "Homeward": Doin' the Manch, by Cockersdale, © 1988 Home Lads Home (Homeward) There are probably a dozen or more other groups who have covered this particular song but Keith Marsden's group deserves special mention. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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29 Apr 08 - 05:04 AM (#2328400) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Saro I recorded it myself with Bread and Roses a few years earlier, but it is only on LP! Saro |
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29 Apr 08 - 03:40 PM (#2328941) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Saro- Oh, I think we'll be sure credit you as a major contributor to the reviving of this old poem as a song, LP or CD. I think C. Fox Smith would be pleased as well. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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29 Apr 08 - 04:03 PM (#2328985) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Herga Kitty Tall Stories (Ken Howard, Pat Ryan, Malcolm Gibbons) recorded Home, Lads, Home - on a cassette. Kitty |
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30 Apr 08 - 09:46 AM (#2329718) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Thanks, Kitty, for the additional reference. "Home, Lads, Home (Homeward" is the clear winner in this Discography so far. "The Tow-Rope Girls" is the runner-up. We may need to revise the guidelines for this Discography so that we only include "primary" recordings. This could get sticky! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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04 May 08 - 10:36 AM (#2332596) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Here's another one which needs a little more information; I'm not sure what the title of the recording actually is: Gerrans Churchtown First adapted for singing by David Watts (UK) with collaboration from other members of Elsie's Band, © 2007. I'm in correspondence with John Hills who says: "The melody is an original idea by Dave Watts, just to suit the rhythm of the poem as he sees it. The arrangement you have on the mp3 is a collective effort on the part of all four of us, sharing the verses with my harmony, and the idea to include "Keep the Home Fires Burning" as a very apt instrumental break came from the imaginative Iris Bishop. We first completed it during the winter of 2007. We have not amended the poem in any way and, providing our memories behave during performances, stick to the original lines." Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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04 May 08 - 10:44 AM (#2332601) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band |
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04 May 08 - 10:49 AM (#2332605) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: GUEST,John from Elsie`s Band Dear Charley, Regarding "Gerrans Churchtown" it is to be found on our limited edition cd by "Elsie`s Band" called "Extra Rough Tracks". Yours, John |
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04 Sep 10 - 07:21 AM (#2979813) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: bradfordian Could someone confirm whether or not Martyn Wyndham-Reed (or anyone else)recorded a song based on CFS's Farewell to Anzac? brad |
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04 Sep 10 - 11:46 AM (#2979936) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: GUEST Martyn has recorded 'Farewell to Anzac' on his latest CD 'back to you', and very good it is too, even if it doesn't yet appear on his website. I doubt anyone has recorded it as the tune is Martyn's, and only dates from a little earlier this year. |
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04 Sep 10 - 12:11 PM (#2979946) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: The Doctor The above was me. I hadn't realised I wasn't logged in. That's what happens when you change your computer. |
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04 Sep 10 - 01:54 PM (#2979988) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Interesting! We'll be happy to update our information. Cheerily, Charley Noble, currently in Greenwich, UK |
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04 Sep 10 - 01:55 PM (#2979989) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: NOMADMan Here's one that might be a bit obscure, from way back: "From the North" - Gary and Vera Aspey on a 1975 Topic LP of the same name. Regards, John |
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05 Sep 10 - 08:25 AM (#2980321) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: bradfordian Martyn's CD BACK TO YOU is now listed on his website HERE Farewell to Anzac is track 14. I heard it sang at the FIRST FRIDAY IN THE MONTH FOLKNIGHT AT THE HARTSHEAD HOTEL GIGLESWICK (adjacent to Settle, North Yorks --for anyone in the area!) That's two more to add to the discog Charlley! brad |
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06 Sep 10 - 04:49 AM (#2980806) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: The Doctor That was me at The Harts Head too. I bought the CD at Whitby and started learning the song. Last Friday was the first time I'd sung it in public. |
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06 Sep 10 - 04:59 AM (#2980809) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: bradfordian Delighted to have met you Doc. Hope to be back at the Harts Head on bonfire night! brad aka Barrie |
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06 Sep 10 - 12:05 PM (#2980968) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: bfdk Martyn sang the song at the Rifle Club in Whitby on 22nd August, I recorded it and have posted it (with Martyn's permission, I hasten to add) here: Farewell to Anzac. It's a very moving song. Best wishes, Bente |
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07 Apr 21 - 05:12 AM (#4101118) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Daniel Kelly I know I'm 11 years late to the party, but would it be possible to add my album? Cicely Fox Smith Sung by Daniel Kelly, Daniel Kelly, 2020 link Tracks: Bewitched The Tow-Rope Girls The Oldest Thing in London The Fight of the Caroline The Ketch Ceres The Fair Hills of Ireland Deep Water The Anchor Watch The Loss of the Birkenhead Twelve Tree Barrow The Passing of Sail |
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07 Apr 21 - 08:58 AM (#4101141) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: r.padgett Pinch O'Salt ~ Alan Fitzsimmons, Peter Wood, and Danny McLeod had a compilation cassette Alan did the tunes ~ 1 Sou'Spain 2 Copper Ore 3 Eight bells 4 Hoodoo 5 Tow Rope Girls 6 Let her go 7 Lee fore brace 8 Shanghai Passage side 2 1 Cape Horner 2 Peaceable Mr M'Gee 3 Home for Christmas 4 A Sailor's Delight 5 Follow the sea 6 The half loaf 7 Merchantmen Sea boot duff and Handspike Gruel 1995 Ray |
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07 Apr 21 - 01:16 PM (#4101195) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Charley Noble Daniel, Never too late, and you've found some poems to adapt for singing that no one else has recorded. We are now discussing a new downloadable edition of The Complete Poetry of Cicely Fox Smith, much more useful for singings who want to work on her poems. Cheerily, Charlie Ipcar, Co-editor |
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07 Apr 21 - 02:02 PM (#4101202) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: Reinhard On Mainly Norfolk I have these albums with tracks attributed to Cicely Fox Smith: From the North, by Gary and Vera Aspey (1975) From the North The Parting Beneath Our Changing Sky, by Test Valley Community Choirs (2001) Home Lads, Home A Little Bit Off the Top by Den Giddens (2003) Home Lads Home Liverpool Connexions by Hughie Jones and Friends (2005) The Cape Horner Shanghai Brown Manchester Angel by Pete Wood (2007) Shanghai Brown Find the Lady by Belshazzar's Feast (2010) Home Lads, Home The Fox, the Hare and the Poacher's Fate by Danny Spooner, Duncan Brown (2011) From the North Only Remembered by Sarah Morgan (2013) Home Lads, Home A Day's Work by Mick Ryan (2014) Home Lad, Home Celebrating Cicely by Various Artists (2 CD, 2015) A Celebration of the life and work of Cicely Fox Smith Upward Onward by Peter & Barbara Snape (2016) From the North |
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07 Apr 21 - 02:40 PM (#4101205) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: The Sandman Sailortown words Fox Smith, tune R Miles Around the Harbour Town Brewhouse 1988? |
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08 Apr 21 - 08:55 AM (#4101348) Subject: RE: Discography (C. Fox Smith) From: The Sandman Sailortown words Fox Smith, tune R Miles Around the Harbour Town Brewhouse 2003 |