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07 Jun 08 - 07:45 AM (#2359979) Subject: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bobert Well, seems there are a few folks here who have no interest in discussing policies and issue of the presdential race but are merely intent on smearing Barak Obama personally so... ...here's you thread, folks... Have it it!!! B~ |
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07 Jun 08 - 07:50 AM (#2359983) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: kendall He's half white. |
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07 Jun 08 - 08:07 AM (#2359995) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad And educated. |
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07 Jun 08 - 08:12 AM (#2360001) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: jacqui.c He's a lawyer. |
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07 Jun 08 - 08:21 AM (#2360004) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bee-dubya-ell His ears are big enough to land him the starring role in a stage production of "Dumbo". |
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07 Jun 08 - 08:36 AM (#2360012) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger He's mastered the Ronald Reagan head bobble. |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:19 AM (#2360035) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow He's uppity |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:24 AM (#2360039) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee He "talked" with Hillary. |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:25 AM (#2360041) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Willie-O I hear he's American. Just saying... W-O |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM (#2360044) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee He can't play the banjo worth shucks. |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:38 AM (#2360049) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow His bowling leaves much to be desired. |
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07 Jun 08 - 09:55 AM (#2360057) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee Can't play the saxophone, either, I betcha. |
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07 Jun 08 - 10:34 AM (#2360066) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad Barack HUSSEIN Obama |
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07 Jun 08 - 10:36 AM (#2360068) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos KNows too much for his own good. And those speeches? WAY above his station. Wants to change things, always a suspect indication. Too fast on his feet, and has big white ideas all the time. A |
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07 Jun 08 - 11:13 AM (#2360078) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,Mrs Olive Whatnoll Wot's "Obama" then? Is it some kind of spread loik vegemite wot you Americans smear on toast? Wot good would it do for the loiks of me to smear it 'ere on some stupid Mudcat 'fread? If I carn't 'ave some Obama of me own to smear on me toast I'm not bloody well interested. |
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07 Jun 08 - 12:14 PM (#2360121) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: meself O-BOMB-a? Oh, bomb a - what? |
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07 Jun 08 - 12:42 PM (#2360137) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley Dylan likes him |
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07 Jun 08 - 02:10 PM (#2360167) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk I bet he likes Dylan too. Joan Baez also likes him. |
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07 Jun 08 - 02:14 PM (#2360171) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Move the letters of bus name around and you get "Bakes Marihuana Cobs" "Cob" is a name for a bread roll in parts of England. So the man's clearly not just a stoner, but a Limey stoner... |
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07 Jun 08 - 02:54 PM (#2360196) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley "Joan Baez also likes him " who, Dylan ? waiting for Tommy Chong with the Obama Bong |
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07 Jun 08 - 02:56 PM (#2360198) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Jeri You might wait long... |
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07 Jun 08 - 03:11 PM (#2360204) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric He uses persuasive language AND SO DOES THE ANTI-CHRIST. |
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07 Jun 08 - 03:15 PM (#2360207) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric He has San Francisco values and he buys arugula at Whole Foods. |
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07 Jun 08 - 03:28 PM (#2360211) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk So do I! ;-) The arugula, I mean. |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:24 PM (#2360235) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee He's visited and even LIVED in countries other than the good old US of A! |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:27 PM (#2360239) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity I just popped over from the other thread I was on, to read these, laughed my ass off! You guys are alright!! |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:30 PM (#2360242) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,Zach He is a sound guy, but there is still one barrier between him and the Oval office and it's a centuries old problem. |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:38 PM (#2360245) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Melissa spot on, Zach. He seems like a pretty good guy, but he certainly doesn't Know His Place. For example, I keep hearing how the small towns/rural folk detest him..yet, I've only seen three political bumperstickers in my area. Every one of them favoring Obama. Hmmph! |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:55 PM (#2360255) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Joe Offer Somebody found this (click) on the Internet, detailing fifty ways Obama is a liar. If it's on the Internet, it must be true - right? Oh, and somebody else sent me an e-mail of this (click), which proves beyond a doubt from the Internet and the Book of Revelation that Barack Hussein Obama is the Anti-Christ! It's a good thing Al Gore invented the Internet to tell us the truth about things like this!!!!! -Joe- |
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07 Jun 08 - 04:59 PM (#2360258) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace He's better lookin' than me. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:01 PM (#2360262) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Come to think of it, my dog was better lookin' than me. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:06 PM (#2360271) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow He doesn't have a dog! |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:08 PM (#2360274) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Peace, I can say in all honesty that you are better looking than Obama's dog. I'll see if I can come up with more. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM (#2360275) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos I think that depends on the point of view, there Heric. From down where dogs stand, Obama's dog wins paws down. A |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM (#2360276) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Ah ... a smear test eh ... is that cuz he's hoping to be a public cervix-dude ... He's better looking than peaces dog! |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:14 PM (#2360280) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric He married a lawyer. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:15 PM (#2360282) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,Cruiser An uppity half-a** half-Black is wusser than them uppity half-a** full-bred white folks is... |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:19 PM (#2360284) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox errr ... hmmm ... I ... um ... ... interesting ... Whaddaya think Joe Offer?
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07 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM (#2360288) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric I bet you're sorry you started this now, Bobert. Anyone can print this out and mail it to the Mc527's. Way to go, sachmo. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:31 PM (#2360296) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Yeah, but I am talking UGly. How ugly? That dog was so ugly I had to hang a pork chop around his neck so the other dogs would play with him. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:33 PM (#2360299) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox So how did you get other kids to play with you? ... I don't wanna know!!!!!!!!! .... |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:34 PM (#2360302) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Hang on ... ... now I know why you need the jujubes ... ____________________________________________ Seriously, I'm a bit concerned about that "cruiser post" ... not seeing the joke ... |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:39 PM (#2360307) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,Cruiser It is called parody. I am a white, life-long Republican who is an Obama supporter and who is criticizing ignorant, stupid white folks! |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:44 PM (#2360312) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace Don't mention jujubes. Some idiot(s) though it was spam and complained about it. My new thing is pizza, so for the spam police, be advised. |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:52 PM (#2360321) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: frogprince I might vote for him, if he would just come clean and admit that he's really an Islamic terrorist... |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:54 PM (#2360324) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace And he does shady real estate deals--well, not HIM actually, but someone he knew years ago and you know what they say about guilt by association . . . . |
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07 Jun 08 - 05:58 PM (#2360329) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos ANd he was known once to actually look at a person who had been part of the Communist-Jihad Alliance. He didn't know it at the time, but he did look at him, because they were making crossing left turns at an intersection in Chicago. He has never denied it, either, you notice!!! And he's been living in the SAME CITY as several known terrorists for twenty years. TWENTY YEARS!!! And I'll bet he'll say he didn't know about them. Riiiight. Twenty years, and not know about them??? I don't THINK soooo. A |
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07 Jun 08 - 06:11 PM (#2360336) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace He is a POLITICIAN! Need more be said? |
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07 Jun 08 - 06:23 PM (#2360349) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace OK. That last one wasn't fair. Sorry. |
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07 Jun 08 - 07:39 PM (#2360390) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos The image of one of those circular steel spring-traps with teeth around the edges that are used for catching bears, raccoons, and such on forest trails comes to mind. A |
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07 Jun 08 - 07:55 PM (#2360407) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bobert Now, now, now, Fantz... This is my thread and it ain't for smearin' Obama supporters but Obama himself... Don't make me ask Joe to send you to yer room, now... Awww, jus funnin'... If you wanta smear Obama's supporters then as the creater of this thread you jus have at it... You tell Joe I said it is okay in my book... B~ |
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07 Jun 08 - 11:07 PM (#2360482) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,dianavan He's a fast talker with expensive suits. |
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07 Jun 08 - 11:49 PM (#2360495) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk He smiles too much! You can't trust people who smile all the time. I want Nixon back, shaking his jowls and scowling. ;-) |
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08 Jun 08 - 12:13 AM (#2360504) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos Well, if it is any comfort, Fantz, I don't fear you OR Joe. So there. A |
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08 Jun 08 - 04:50 AM (#2360535) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: akenaton Why are all guest Fantasma's posts being deleted? The members seem to respond to them fairly well while they are on the board. Joe, I think you taking this too far, we are not children!
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08 Jun 08 - 05:48 AM (#2360550) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox What's that peace? You used spam? You should've given your dog the spam and kept the porkchops for yourself! |
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08 Jun 08 - 06:25 AM (#2360563) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox I'd like you a whole lot more if only I thought you had some pork chops. |
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08 Jun 08 - 06:36 AM (#2360569) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox Hey ... you haven't been smearing Obama with Spam have you? |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:35 AM (#2360597) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley even if he sneaks around about it and is married, Obama enjoys the occasional fag... (cigarette, that is) |
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08 Jun 08 - 09:44 AM (#2360620) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bee-dubya-ell As far as I know, Obama has not claimed to have had direct contact with beings from another planet. The fact that such beings find him unworthy of contact automatically makes him unworthy of being President. On the other hand, if he did claim to have had direct contact with beings from another planet he'd be a whacked out nut case and, therefore, unworthy of being President. |
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08 Jun 08 - 09:52 AM (#2360623) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric He's mever admitted to being attacked by a rabbit, hitting someone in the head with a golfball, smashing his head when extiting an airplane, or throwing up at a State dinner -- which means he is entirely lacking in the requiste entertainment value expected of a President. |
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08 Jun 08 - 10:01 AM (#2360626) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric He can't even say nuculur -- a subtle but revealing indicator that he's not as American as he should be. |
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08 Jun 08 - 11:05 AM (#2360656) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley is conspiring with Billy Bob Thornton and Randy Owen to start a Southern Roots/Country band called Alobama, which will just be a front for pure Yankee "Barack and Roll" but he's better with a mic than Billy Bob |
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08 Jun 08 - 01:05 PM (#2360746) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace There it is, Lox. This will be very sublime, so STAY WITH ME! Spam pizza. |
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08 Jun 08 - 01:34 PM (#2360762) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Rapparee He's never called and asked me for MY opinion on anything. |
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08 Jun 08 - 02:05 PM (#2360795) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bankley well, what do you expect from someone whose name ends with a vowel ? then there was Kennedy, but they only used a part-time vowel... and SPAM is MAPS spelled backwards.... a conspiracy brewing... |
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08 Jun 08 - 02:50 PM (#2360832) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bee-dubya-ell More Spam is consumed, per capita, in Hawaii than anyplace else in the U.S. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. I'll say no more lest I be labeled some sort of whacko conspiracy theorist. You may draw your own conclusions. |
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08 Jun 08 - 03:06 PM (#2360843) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee . . . |
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08 Jun 08 - 04:04 PM (#2360887) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus He's not b;lack; he's not white; have another go. Unfortunately, he's a human being. No human being is going to get a universal thumbs-up, solved OUR problems, be G-d. The hunt for an error-free-politician is as useful as for an error-free person. Yours humorously ot humour-free, depending Ivor |
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08 Jun 08 - 05:00 PM (#2360929) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Azizi It amazes me that some people are still going on about Barack Obama's racial identity. "He's not b;lack [sic]; he's not white; have another go".??!! Obama's not Black?! Says who?? Surely not Barack Obama. I consider Kendall's comment that "he's [Baracka Obama]half white" to be interesting phrasing since for a long time in the United States an individual was either considered to be all White, or not White at all. Racially mixed people with Black/White ancestry were called "half Black" but never "half White". Perhaps that custom is changing. But the only reason why Obama and other Black Americans who have one Black birth parent and one White birth parent aren't considered White is because of the United States' racist one drop of "black blood" rule. Actually, in a sane world Barack Obama would be considered to be Black and he would also be considered to be White. Not that his racial identity or anyone else's racial identity would matter in a sane world. However, the fact of the matter is that according to the way the USA socially defines racial identity at this time Barack Obama is Black. And Barack Obama's election as the Democratic party's nominee for President is a historical occurance for African Americans and for all other Americans. And when, God willing, Senator Barack Obama is elected President of the USA, he won't be the Black President or the White President or the half-white President. When he wins this election, Barack Obama won't be or the half-black President or the racially mixed President. BHe will be the President of the United States of America. Barack Obama will be the President of all of the people in the United States equally regardless of our race, ethnicity, gender, sexually orientation, income, age, and/or our religion or our lack of religion. Some people may not be ready for a new day, but a change is still gonna come. |
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08 Jun 08 - 05:11 PM (#2360934) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: akenaton Don't hold your breath. |
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08 Jun 08 - 05:25 PM (#2360949) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow The man's got a beard like a commie Cuban - it's just that he conceals it by shaving every day. |
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08 Jun 08 - 06:01 PM (#2360972) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus Azizi I'd prefer to just talk of candidates, not red, yellow or green ot aNy other colour ones. I was just making a small amendment. It's different in the US, I gather, but here in the UK, we used to use the phrase 'mixed race' for someone with mixed parentage. Actually, we're all 'mixed race', and cousins of each other. These are guerilla tactics in this questionable thread. Still a humourous, therapist-cum-philosopher-cum-Spurs supporter-cum-left/hander-cum-book collector - cum- occasional Guardian reader - cum - supporter of the BBC would say that, wouldn't I? Should we have threads to smear posters? Course not. Ivor |
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08 Jun 08 - 07:59 PM (#2361030) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: EBarnacle He's a politician who wants to change the world and become a statesman. |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:10 PM (#2361034) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos I think Obama's election to the WHite House is going to make an important, fundamental change in the future track of this country and, indirectly, of the world. It will be interesting times, that much is for sure. The convergence of upcoming technical advances and a re-balancing of the economy with a stronger basic bloc and less emphasis on hyperactivity and derivatives, instead of basic productivity, will gradually restore strength tot he economy and between these two vectors and his sense of perspective, I think some positive things will appear. A |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:13 PM (#2361035) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Peace I think he'll do a great job despite being a bit weak on foreign policy, not that the present president is an example to follow. IMO, no place for the US to go but up. |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:14 PM (#2361036) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Mixed parentage is the general pattern in most places. A mother and a father. .......................... You'll note Obama has never denied that he is a vampire. |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:27 PM (#2361040) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Bobert Bad Amos and Peace... This is the official "Obama Smear" thread... Stay on topic, please... There are plenty other threads about Barak's talents and all that... And I support Obama but... ... we do have to keep this thread pure fir the knotheads... Know what I mean??? B~ |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:39 PM (#2361046) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric Thank you, Norbert. Obama went to Pakistan. |
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08 Jun 08 - 08:46 PM (#2361049) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie While there, he may have talked to the American ambassador. |
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08 Jun 08 - 09:00 PM (#2361053) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad HAD A PET APE AS A CHILD: Obama lived in Indonesia for nearly five years as a child and had a pet ape named Tata. He also sampled exotic foods — dog, snake and grasshopper. |
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08 Jun 08 - 09:03 PM (#2361054) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: bobad According to Barack Obama in an interview on 1/18/2008 his favorite food is from Italian Fiesta Pizzeria in Hyde Park, Chicago, IL. We know what that means, don't we - FUGGETABOUTIT! |
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08 Jun 08 - 09:33 PM (#2361070) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ed T If he's never been to a Tim Horton's, how can he expect to get the Canadian vote? He did not capture a single Canadian delegate (or even a super delegate) during the primaries. McCain's subliminal association with frozen french fries could help him at the Canadian ballot boxes during election time. |
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09 Jun 08 - 01:50 AM (#2361141) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: autolycus WHY CANNOT KNOTHEADS START THEIR OWN THREADS? Oh. because they're knotheads (whatever that is)? Ivor |
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09 Jun 08 - 05:21 PM (#2361774) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Stringsinger He has stated and I paraphrase, "Religion should not be left out of the public arena". Sounds like an intent to fuse Church and State. I don't think Obama likes non-believers. |
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09 Jun 08 - 05:24 PM (#2361778) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Hear hear! |
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09 Jun 08 - 06:31 PM (#2361849) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie "I don't think Obama likes non-believers". That's quite a leap from the little that we know. Unless your hypothesis is that he really didn't care for or respect his mother. |
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09 Jun 08 - 06:52 PM (#2361872) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Amos I'd like to see the actual quote, as I haven't seen it. In its correct context I think the chances are good your paraphrase is an alteration. A |
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09 Jun 08 - 08:36 PM (#2361940) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,lox "religion should not be left out of the public arena" to leave any individual or group out of the public arena is undemocratic and descriminatory. Democracy is inclusive by it's very nature. I'm not religious but I believe every point of view has the right to be represented. I condemn any attempt to exclude any group or individual from the democratic process. Stringsinger and Riginslinger, it is interesting how such purportedly progressive and modern viewpoints as yours turn out on closer examination to be merely reactonary and politically backward. Clutching at straws ... bitter twisted and sad. Thankfully you represent a fading era. |
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09 Jun 08 - 09:08 PM (#2361961) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: heric A mystery is developing, arising from on obscured and contentious factual assertions. Looks like a job for heric This appears to be a reference to a speech by Obama June, 2006 at a conference sponsored by progressive evangelicals. He apparently said (again paraphrased): "Obama's three points were presented as 'some truths' or 'ground rules' fostering civility and effective political compromise in the public arena of a democracy. 1. Leaders must understand and appreciate the critically important role that the separation of church and state 'has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice.' 2. When the religiously motivated attempt to influence public policy they must be prepared to argue from universal, rational values and insights that are open to debate. Obama's point is quite clear and very specific – 'I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God's will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.' 3. Harmonious interactions between religiously motivated public political activity and the multiple realities of democratic pluralism require what Obama calls a 'sense of proportion.' He argues that not every public citing of God is a breach in the divide between church and state. His advice is a cautionary word to those who react with indignant outrage at the use of school property by voluntary student prayer groups or the recital of the Pledge of Allegiance phrase 'under God.' The coercive impact of such events and phrases Obama suggests need to be seen in context and proportion. |
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09 Jun 08 - 10:29 PM (#2361993) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies There also seem to be some who are trying to muddle the clear differences between Obama and McCain on the separation of church and state. McCain said (9-2007) "the Constitution established the United States of America as a Christian nation". When immigrants come here "they know they are in a nation founded on Christian principles". Source: Pew Center Obama's views are rather different, as indicated already in this thread. Anybody thinking of not supporting Obama should research further what McCain believes on this issue. |
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09 Jun 08 - 11:05 PM (#2362007) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Well, of course, a guy could not support Obama, and not support McCain at the same time. There are other candidates out there. |
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09 Jun 08 - 11:29 PM (#2362025) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Little Hawk That's right. Chongo, for instance. |
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10 Jun 08 - 07:41 PM (#2362782) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Back to smears. Shakespeare might have been describing him: Yon Cassius has a lean and hungry look. He thinks too much. Such men are dangerous... And the elitist Obama would recognise that quote too. |
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10 Jun 08 - 08:22 PM (#2362816) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Mrrzy Thread title sounded a little kinky to meee... |
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10 Jun 08 - 08:47 PM (#2362828) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ebbie Mrrzy! lol |
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11 Jun 08 - 04:14 PM (#2363569) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: DannyC ** WARNING ** AMERICAN DOMINIONIST-FASCIST CONTENT *** Here's a posting I received here in America's Heartland... as you will see, the dull-wits known as the American Right are getting organized. You might also note that it is rabies season in these parts. I send this without edits of any kind. I would like to publicly thank the idiot who had forwarded the message to me: If our nation elects Obama as president - we had better buckle our seat belts - the ride is going to be rough! This will be a time when we, as Christians, need to be/become vocal or else we will get what we deserve. Bill Brown, is a highly respected retired member of the Billy Graham team. So, I take his assessment of Obama very seriously and for that reason accept his challenge to pass this on. I share his concern about the 'rock star' image Obama has and watch with growing concern at the celebrity status the media has foisted upon him. Here is hope this email informs you in a wise way. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We are witnessing a political phenomenon with Barack Obama of rare magnitude. His speeches have inspired millions and yet most of his followers have no idea of what he stands for except platitudes of 'Change' or that he says he will be a 'Uniteder'. The power of speech from a charismatic person truly can be a powerful thing. Certainly Billy Graham had charisma and both his manner of speech and particularly the content changed millions. On the extreme other hand, the charisma of Adolph Hitler inspired millions and the results were catastrophic. Barack Obama certainly is no Hitler or a Billy Graham, but for many Americans out there feeling just like a surfer who might be ecstatic and euphoric while riding a tidal wave, the real story is what happens when it hits shore . Just Some of What Defines Barack Obama: · He voted against banning partial birth abortion. · He voted no on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. · Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government. · In 2001 he questioned harsh penalties for drug dealing. · Says he will deal with street level drug dealing as minimum wage affair. · Admitted marijuana and cocaine use in high school and in college. · His religious convictions are very murky. · He is willing to meet with Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez, Kim Jung Il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. · Has said that one of his first goals after being elected would be to have a conference with all Muslim nations. · Opposed the Patriot Act. · First bill he signed that was passed was campaign finance reform. · Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers. · Supports universal health-care. · Voted yes on providing habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. · Supports granting driver's license to illegal immigrants. · Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants. · Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform. · Voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. · Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'. · Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes. · Is a big believer in the separation of church and state. · Opposed to any efforts to Privatize Social Security and instead supports increasing the amount of tax paid. · He voted No on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. · He voted No on repealing the 'Death' Tax. · He wants to raise the Capital Gains Tax. · Has repeatedly said the surge in Iraq has not succeeded.... · He is ranked as the most liberal Senator in the Senate today and that takes some doing. If your political choices are consistent with Barack Obama's and you think that his positions will bring America together or make it a better place, then you will probably enjoy the ride and not forward this Email. If you are like most Americans that after examining what he stands for, are truly not in line with his record, it would be prudent to get off the wave or better yet, never get on, before it comes on shore and undermines the very foundations of this great Country. We have limited time to save America or the Supreme Court as we know it. Inaction is action. If you agree this is important, pass it on. The mainstream media will not do it for you! Bill Brown MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS |
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11 Jun 08 - 09:48 PM (#2363861) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies Re: supporting neither Obama nor McCain. "There are other candidates". For somebody in denial, yes. Anybody who does not back what McCain stands for has only one choice: Obama. Otherwise he or she is likely to see President McCain. If that's fine with you, great. But in that case let's have no whining about what President McCain does--and that he will act on his belief that the US was founded as a Christian nation, and appoint Supreme Court justices who also believe this. And he will continue the Iraq war til "victory". Etc. |
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11 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM (#2363868) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger It's probably reasonable to assume that a voter who finds himself/herself voting for a third party candidate will discover there is a counter vote out there for some other third party candidate, so it doesn't follow that if you are not voting for one of the major party candidates, you are casting a vote for McCain. Myself, for instance, I'm registered "Green." If I vote for the Green Party candidate, somebody else will vote for the Libertarian candidate. We can both take comfort in the fact that neither one of us did anything to advance the insanity that the two major parties are trying so desperately to impose on the American people. |
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11 Jun 08 - 10:06 PM (#2363871) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Ron Davies In a close election, as many recently have been, a minor candidate can easily make the difference. Perhaps people have forgotten the 2000 election. The only way to prevent a similar event is to vote for the major party candidate who reflects your positions more than the other major party candidate. It ain't rocket science--except to those in denial. |
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12 Jun 08 - 09:06 AM (#2364151) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow The other way of course is to arrange some kind of vote-twinning. So if you like Obama but live in some state where it is inconceivable that he could win, you get in touch with someone in a swing state who prefers Obama to McCain, but who fancies registering a vote for Nader. And you agree that they vote for Obama, and you vote for Nader. You could do it via the Mudcat with someone with whom you've been arguing about these things. Of course you'd need to trust each other, but what's wrong with that? |
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12 Jun 08 - 09:27 AM (#2364166) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Danny C, Thanks for posting that message from Bill Brown. I admit, I had my doubts about Obama, but seeing how he voted on all those issues has convinced me he's the right man for the job. Now, if only I had a vote.... |
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12 Jun 08 - 12:43 PM (#2364308) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: DannyC < Danny C, Thanks for posting that message from Bill Brown. I admit, I had my doubts about Obama, but seeing how he voted on all those issues has convinced me he's the right man for the job.>> Yo Crazy Eddie --- precisely... |
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12 Jun 08 - 03:13 PM (#2364452) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Mrrzy Thanks, Ebbie! |
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12 Jun 08 - 07:48 PM (#2364660) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger These are the bad things! · Supports granting driver's license to illegal immigrants. · Supports extending welfare to illegal immigrants. · Voted yes on comprehensive immigration reform. · Supports affirmative action in Colleges and Government. · His religious convictions are very murky. · Voted No on prohibiting law suits against gun manufacturers. |
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12 Jun 08 - 07:54 PM (#2364664) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Those are bad things? |
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12 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM (#2364726) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Terrible! |
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12 Jun 08 - 10:04 PM (#2364730) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: DannyC As with all phobias, a xenophobic person is aware of the fear, and therefore has to genuinely think or believe at some level that the target is in fact a foreigner. This arguably separates xenophobia from racism and ordinary prejudice in that someone of a different race does not necessarily have to be of a different nationality. In various contexts, the terms "xenophobia" and "racism" seem to be used interchangeably, though they can have wholly different meanings (xenophobia can be based on various aspects, racism being based solely on race and ancestry). For xenophobia there are two main objects of the phobia. The first is a population group present within a society that is not considered part of that society. Often they are recent immigrants, but xenophobia may be directed against a group which has been present for centuries. This form of xenophobia can elicit or facilitate hostile and violent reactions, such as mass expulsion of immigrants, or in the worst case, genocide. The second form of xenophobia is primarily cultural, and the objects of the phobia are cultural elements which are considered alien. All cultures are subject to external influences, but cultural xenophobia is often narrowly directed, for instance at foreign loan words in a national language. It rarely leads to aggression against individual persons, but can result in political campaigns for cultural or linguistic purification. Isolationism, a general aversion of foreign affairs, is not accurately described as xenophobia. |
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12 Jun 08 - 11:58 PM (#2364764) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger Of course the problem here is world wide human population growth, and the part that migration plays into it. |
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13 Jun 08 - 01:11 AM (#2364785) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Lonesome EJ He's really not very nice to lobbyists. |
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13 Jun 08 - 07:52 AM (#2364908) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow I think the distinction between racism and xenophobia is quite important. One way and another a degree of xenophobia - fear of, or suspicion towards outsiders - is something that crops up in all kinds of times and places, and it's probably true to see it as natural enough. Racism is something else. The focus for racists isn't strangers and outsiders, it's liable to be neighbours picked out on the basis of some insignificant physical difference, who may well be essentially indistingishable in other ways. It's based on a perverted pseudo-science, and on manipulation. There is nothing natural about it. |
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13 Jun 08 - 08:46 AM (#2364945) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: artbrooks A driver's license is proof, one hopes, that the possessor knows how to physically operate a motor vehicle and has passed a very simple written test on driving regulations. It is not, and should never be, proof of citizenship or the legal right to be in the US. There are other documents for that. If supporting granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants is a bad thing, than one assumes that the opponents of this proposal are ok with them being out on the road unlicensed? Having been rear-ended a couple of years ago by a lady who had no license, no vehicle registration, no proof of insurance and who no habla ingles, somehow I think that is a bad idea. |
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13 Jun 08 - 09:50 AM (#2364983) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Donuel Smear Obama Here... Barak Butter : smear some on toast. ITs made of ground sun flower seeds, walnuts, cashews and spices. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm good |
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13 Jun 08 - 09:57 AM (#2364990) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow That would surely depend on what spice was used and in what quantity... |
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13 Jun 08 - 10:43 AM (#2365040) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: katlaughing My apologies if this has already been posted: Fight the Smear. |
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13 Jun 08 - 10:31 PM (#2365576) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger I went there but I couldn't enter. Before you can enter the sire you have to give them an e-mail address and your zip code. I didn't enter. My first thoughts were, "This is somebody not to trust." |
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13 Jun 08 - 10:42 PM (#2365584) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: artbrooks A very interesting site, and there is no requirement to enter either an e-mail address or a zip code. One is invited to do so, but need not to view the site's content. |
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13 Jun 08 - 10:45 PM (#2365586) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: katlaughing Thank you, Art. Rigin...I don't know what you're on about unless you're adding to the nefarious smearing!? You do not have to sign up or anything, as Art has said. |
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13 Jun 08 - 11:29 PM (#2365601) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Willie-O · Wants to make the minimum wage a 'living wage'. · Voted with Democratic Party 96 percent of 251 votes. · Is a big believer in the separation of church and state. Ummmm....clearly a dangerous character. And I'm stunned that he so often sides with the Democrats! I bet he might be one himself...wouldn't surprise me one bit. W-O BTW there was a minor Canadian political scandal a few months ago tied to Obama. It was leaked to the press that "his people" contacted certain Canadian officials to assure them, quietly, that if he was talking tough about Canada, it was just talk. The leak was, if you heard about it, supposed to damage Obama's credibility. With the people who might vote for him. (A significant number of whom also hold Canadian citizenship, if they could only figure out the rules for expatriate Americans voting). Funnily enough, the leak was traced to our Conservative Prime Ministers chief of staff, one Ian Brody, who has suddenly resigned, feeling that age-old urge to see his family more often. This isn't really a smear since it appears to be settled as an even split...minus one for Obama, minus one for Harper. W-O |
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14 Jun 08 - 12:25 AM (#2365631) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: Riginslinger "Rigin...I don't know what you're on about unless you're adding to the nefarious smearing!? You do not have to sign up or anything, as Art has said." The site I went to didn't let me access anything unless I gave up that information. Maybe I went to the wrong place. I'll double check. |
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14 Jun 08 - 07:45 AM (#2365746) Subject: RE: BS: Smear Obama Here... From: McGrath of Harlow Click on the link kat gave. Then try moving your cursor over the underlined blue bits which say "continue reading" and left clicking... |