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26 Mar 97 - 12:13 PM (#3510) Subject: "Rose, Rose" round: more verses? From: Tamara tamarad@dolphin.upenn.edu Hey ! I've got the round that goes:
Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose, These other two rounds can be sung together with "Rose":
Thou poor bird, take thy flight And:
Heigh, ho, nobody home I've also collected these verses (or variants):
Ding, dong, ding, dong
Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose
Ding, Dong, Ding, Dong
So. Does anybody
Thanks! Tamara tamarad@dolphin.upenn.edu
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27 Mar 97 - 12:45 AM (#3530) Subject: RE: From: CATFEET C/O INCUBUS@ICI.NET Yes, there's at least one more, here it goes.
Ding dong, ding dong Sorry about the other, I don't know any history about it. Catfeet
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28 Mar 97 - 10:20 AM (#3589) Subject: RE: From: Tamara tamarad@dolphin.upenn.edu ThankS!! Here's a couple more I dug out of my DB, if you're interested:
Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose
Many a moon has waxed and waned
Thou poor bird
Vent frais, vent du matin
Hey, ho, spaun der Wagen an I'm afraid I don't even have the translations for these last. Can anyone help?
Thanks again, Cat,
Tamara
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29 Mar 97 - 10:51 AM (#3645) Subject: RE: From: cathy Here is the song the way I learned it:
Rose, rose, rose, rose
Ding, dong, ding, dong
"Mother, father, dig my grave
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21 May 97 - 02:22 PM (#5495) Subject: RE: From: Kate One more verse:
Red rose, white rose |
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22 May 97 - 09:11 AM (#5529) Subject: RE: From: lindahl@pbm.com There's a round from 1609 which is compatible with Rose, Rose:
O My Loue, lou'st thou mee? then quickly come It's sung to the tune of "Thou poor bird", which is different from the tune for Rose, Rose. I have midi for it on my Ravenscroft webpage: http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/ravenscroft/modern/ Deuteromelia #24. -- g |
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22 May 97 - 03:36 PM (#5555) Subject: RE: From: Anna Root Just a small variation:
Oh, poor bird! Thanks for collecting all these. Very interesting thread. |
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22 May 97 - 07:40 PM (#5570) Subject: RE: From: Susan of DT Kate's verse sounds like the War of the Roses with Tudor uniting York (white) with Lancaster (red), or at least uniting them when Henry Tudor VII married a York princess. |
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26 May 97 - 08:13 PM (#5779) Subject: RE: From: Kitdiva@AOL.com Vent frais, vent du matin Vent qui souffle les sommets des grands pins joie du vent qui souffle allons dans le grand...
Literal translation: (For what it's worth!) |
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09 Jun 97 - 11:45 AM (#6490) Subject: RE: From: rechal@earthlink.net I remember a verse that went:
Love, love, love, love Love, the gospel Love, the word Love thy neighbor as thy brother Love, love, love. |
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09 Jun 97 - 06:28 PM (#6511) Subject: RE: "Rose, Rose" round: more verses? From: mcgrew@alumni.stanford.org I'm used to hearing/singing Love, love, love, love |
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10 Jun 97 - 09:46 AM (#6555) Subject: RE: From: Steffan O'Sullivan (sos@oz.plymouth.edu) A tiny variant on the original, but with a very large and modern difference: "...I will marry at my will, sire, at my will." I learned this from the San Francisco Mime Troup, who used the song as a group warmup. |
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14 Jun 97 - 10:53 PM (#6836) Subject: RE: From: Charlie Baum The first set of words I ever learned to that tune were in Hebrew: A transliteration: Mah tovu, // ohalecha ya'akov, // mishkinotecha yisrael. ("Ch" is fricative as in Scottish "loch") It translates as: "How goodly are your tents, O Jacob, your habitations, O Israel." It is sometimes sung in the synagogue at the very beginning of a service. --Charlie Baum |
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15 Jun 97 - 02:45 AM (#6856) Subject: RE: From: Bill Howdy Folks, Some variations that I commonly use include:
America! America!
Holy is God. A Greek version of the one above. (I've never checked these spellings, but they seem to be the way I heard it years ago.)
Hagios ho Theos.
Love, love, love, love.
Allinkausay, |
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19 Jun 00 - 11:05 PM (#244752) Subject: RE: From: GUEST,eponine80@hotmail.com I know this thread is very old, but I woke up this morning with this song in my head. I had learned it in camp, and someone had written out a bunch of verses for me, but I lost the paper. I've spent an hour looking for lyrics and my search finally ended here. Yes! Anyways, here are the ones I remembered ( besides the first "Rose..."): I won't be my father's Jack And I won't be my mother's Jill I just want to be a fiddler's wife And fiddle at my will Ah, poor bird Why art thou Flying in the shadows Of this dark hour? Ah, poor bird Take thy flight High above the shadows Of this sad night |
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20 Jun 00 - 10:24 PM (#245194) Subject: RE: From: Hotspur I won't be my father's Jack And I won't be my mother's Jill For I will be a fiddler's wife, And fiddle where I will.
Love, love, love, love |
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21 Jun 00 - 01:28 PM (#245481) Subject: RE: old thread From: GUEST,LOSTSCADIAN@PRODIGY.NET heres a few more werses
Come, Come, everybody come
Gloom, Gloom, sadness and doom
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04 Feb 02 - 07:04 PM (#642457) Subject: RE: From: Dug Tune of Irish Ways and Irish Laws? |
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04 Feb 02 - 07:24 PM (#642473) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Sounds as though many folks have used this old tune to carry their various messages and feelings. I think the "original," if there can be such a thing, had only these four lines:
Rose, rose, rose, rose, which gives it a totally different meaning, having nothing to do with being "wed" (suggested by the word "marry" in the second line which means "certainly," or,"to be sure," in this case. What the song says (to me) is, If you have patience, what you wish will come to pass. But it IS a tune that we love to borrow- my "Peace Round" is set to (almost) this tune. It is now in the Friends Hymnal, so you can check it out! Jean P.S. Speeded up, it's also the melody for the round, "Hey Ho, Nobody Home." |
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04 Feb 02 - 07:36 PM (#642485) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: CapriUni Jean -- Just thought I'd let you know: the first version of this song I learned was your lyrics. We sang it as part of my school's Thanksgiving celebration, when all the grades from kindergarten through 12th would gather for a communal meal. Hearing it sung in parts (and being a part of it), by 100+ voices of all ages, made quite an impression on me... So, where can I get a copy of The Friends Hymnal? |
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05 Feb 02 - 07:38 PM (#643432) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) CapriUni- I don't know; I don't have one myself. Maybe there's a website? Or do you have a friend who's a Friend? This was all done with correspondence, through my publishing company, Geordie Music Pub. Co., and occasionally there's a small royalty statement. They also included another song of mine, "Now is the Cool of the Day." I'd have loved to hear all you school-kids singing, "Peace!" It's a good thought... Jean |
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05 Feb 02 - 11:08 PM (#643544) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: E.T. Jean Here's one that may be "it" - one of the books is sacred rounds and chants. Believe title was 'On Holy Ground". I'd like to look at it anyway. Will have to check with "my" Friend. http://www.quaker.ca/religious_education/y-community.html Elaine.
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05 Feb 02 - 11:47 PM (#643563) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: CapriUni Jean -- Actually, I was raised as a Friend... Or rather, my father was, and he introduced "Friendly" philosophy to my mother, and together, they raised me with this philosophy... but we never did anything with organized religion other than to subscribe to The Friends' Journal. And as far as I know, there were no pre-selected hymns with my father's Meeting, or any other such "embellishments". (I didn't even know there was such a thing as a "Friends' Hymnal"). Thanks for the addy, Elaine... I'll check it out. ... And see if I recognize any of the songs ;-) |
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06 Feb 02 - 04:39 PM (#644094) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,mollificent Hmmm...it's funny, I first heard the original verses to this song at a late night harper's ceilidh just last week. I had originally learned the round from a friend in college who was introducing me to Wicca (insert shocked gasps here ;)) and whenever we did a ritual we would sing the following round to the Rose Red tune:
Lady, weave your circle tight, I rather like the sound of it, especially sung in a round. But the original words are lovely, too. Moll |
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06 Feb 02 - 06:13 PM (#644147) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Eclipse Lots of varients... and here is another
Up poor bird |
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06 Feb 02 - 11:11 PM (#644281) Subject: RE: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) We found, Quakerbooks.Org, A Resource Guide for Quaker Materials from the Friends General Conference Bookstore. They list WORSHIP IN SONG: A FRIENDS HYMNAL ("A songbook/hymnal with music and words reflecting the diversity of The Society of Friends"). It costs $20, but doesn't list the contents- so I don't know if it's the one with, 'The Peace Round,' in it. Maybe they'd tell you if you want to pursue it (kind of a lot to pay for a little song like that- which you already know!). People keep quoting, "Ah poor bird, take thy flight..." as though it were sung to the same tune as, "Rose, Rose." The "poor bird" song that I know has a completley different melody. No? I'm leaving tomorrow for 10 days, so I guess the thread will be long gone when I get back! Jean" |
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01 Aug 03 - 12:02 AM (#994750) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,jasmine I learned this song when I was camper at Camp Steven's Ranch. I cannot believe that there are so many different lyrics of this song. I've only read a couple so far and am quite amazed. My fiends will be surprised to here about all of these different verses. |
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15 Nov 03 - 02:25 PM (#1054233) Subject: translation to modern english From: GUEST I need translation to modern english for those lines of the song: "Aye marry then thou wilt All thou but stay When thou are dead" Thanks Hadas |
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13 Dec 03 - 10:26 PM (#1071832) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,jlsandberg@lycos.com I work for a program where we have campfire everyday. The staff sings this song after the kids leave, everyday. We sing a lot of these versions you have listed. We also have one of our own. Trees, trees, trees, trees When I sleep I dream of trees Alder, Maple, Yew and Hemlock See how they grow Some folks also sing the following song to complement the round. Building bridges between our divisions If I reach out to you will you reach out to me With all of our voices and all of our visions Friends we can make such sweet harmony Hope that helps. Jesca |
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10 Mar 04 - 11:09 PM (#1133553) Subject: Lyr Add: ROSE, ROSE From: GUEST,Syscodoubles1@aol.com I have a few different verses we would always sing in our S.C.A. (Society for Creative Anachronism) medieval recreation group... ROSE Rose, rose, rose red Shall I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will, sire, At thy will. Rose, rose, rose, rose, When shall we meet again? When the nights are cold and lonely, We shall meet again. Rose, rose, rose white, Will you be my lover tonight? I will love thee at thy will, sire, At thy will. Ding dong, ding dong, Wedding bells on an April morn. Carve her name on a moss-covered stone, On a moss-covered stone. Come, come, everyone, come. Join us in our happy home. We celebrate the birth of a son, Our first-born son. Gloom, gloom, sadness and doom, My rose took ill at the harvest moon. Chills and fever tortured her so. Lord, Why my rose... Ding dong, ding dong, Funeral bells on a September morn. Rose o rose is dead and gone, sire, Dead and gone. Enjoy! Lady Jayne |
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10 Mar 04 - 11:41 PM (#1133566) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: LadyJean It is with deep regret that I inform you that some of my friends at Camp Riamo would sing, Johns johns johns johns, Will I ever find a john No they are too far away Ha! You lose! Ha! You lose! |
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03 May 04 - 08:59 PM (#1177326) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: Q (Frank Staplin) At least six threads (plus scouting threads) on this little round. A bookful of speculation but nothing useful on origin. It seems to be absent from the 19th c. compendia of rhymes Is it modified from lines in a play? (suggested before). Looking over the added rhymes in other threads as well as this one, most were once independent or have floated in from other songs. |
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23 Jun 04 - 09:08 PM (#1213266) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST The way I learned "thou poor bird", it had three verses: Thou poor bird, mournst the tree, where sweetly thou didst warble in thy wand'ring free. Ah, poor bird, take thy flight far above the sorrows of this sad night. Ah, poor maid, shed thy tears, your love has fallen and will not return to you. Hope this helps a bit. We sang it in round against "Rose rose rose rose, will I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will, sire, at thy will." ((as was mentioned above)) ~*~*~*~* |
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24 Mar 05 - 09:03 PM (#1443126) Subject: even more!! From: GUEST,Delia I know Mother Father dig my grave dig it with a golden spaid bring a few friends and an early morning dove to show that I died for love Brother Sister at my head lay the rose which now is dead lay it on my moss coverd stone my moss covered stone hey ho hey ho no meat no bones no body I have none still I will be here forever still I will be here the wind in the willows sighing like a solitary soal alone I read this somewhere: Rose is a haunting set of five songs, the tale of a young woman's life. Rose tells of her impending marriage. In Jack, the next song , she defies her parents, vowing to "be a fiddler's wife." Her marriage is described in Ding Dong. Unfortunately, with her marriage to the fiddler came poverty - "Heigh Ho, nobody's home." There is some debate over the meaning of the final song in the sequence, Ah Poor Bird - some believe that it talks about Rose after her death, her spirit unable to rest; others think it simply continues the description of her empoverished life, perhaps including her shame at being in her position. Peace is not necessarily a part of the sequence, but it has the same general tune, and it is possible that it is in reference to the king mentioned in the first song, (if that is what "sire" refers to). Peace, peace, peace, peace Wars will come and wars will cease We must learn to live together Peace, peace, peace |
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29 Nov 05 - 02:20 AM (#1616113) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Someone (a friend) Thanyou everyone! I was looking up this song because I knew a few verses such as... Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose, will I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will, Father At thy will. (I learner the firstone at camp and the next in choir) Heigh, ho, nobody home Meat, nor drink, nor money have I none yet, I will be merrrrry. and... stay home where nobody knows I was under the impression that the two songs went together somehow and lets face it, this is not a happy song. Just a Tragic girl who loves a man but her farther is forcing her to marry someone else so she runs away with him. I have so many different veiws of it, not just that but ya. here are three rounds put together that I know of Hey ho nobody home No more sleep nor money I have none still I will be very marry, Hey ho hum Rose rose rose rose Will I ever see thee wed I will merry at thy will, father At that will The wind in the willows sign like a solitary sole alone, The wind, the wind, the wind, the wind I hope this helps in some way... ~K.A.C.~ |
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29 Nov 05 - 12:04 PM (#1616427) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: Liath I never thought of singing 'Ah Poor Bird' and the Rose round together - I bet that sounds beautiful :-) I learned a different version to the rose round, which I only remember imperfectly. There was only one verse, which went something like: Rose, rose, rose red Whenever shall I see thee wed? I will marry at your will (I'm sure that's not quite right) When I am dead. I've no idea where I learned this. Definitely not a family song - perhaps it was something we sang at school. |
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29 Nov 05 - 12:21 PM (#1616445) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: Seiri Omaar Version I learned from Crucible: Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose Shall I ever see thee wed Aye, marry that thou shalt When thou art dead Cheers, Seiri. |
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30 Nov 05 - 06:55 AM (#1617072) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: *Laura* That's roughly the version I know - Rose rose rose red, when shall we be wed? Aye, marry that we shall when thou art dead xLx |
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31 Dec 05 - 02:13 AM (#1638041) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Neko I learned the following while camping with my troop, the former Troop 282 of the Appalachee Bend in Florida Little bird, fly away High up on a mountain-top On this sad, sad day On this sad day Neko |
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21 Jul 06 - 04:51 PM (#1789368) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST The "Love" verse as I learned it went: Love, love, love, love Love is the password of the world Love thy neghbor as thy brother(sister) Love, love, love |
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28 Aug 06 - 05:25 PM (#1821020) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST this is all of it that i know: rose rose rose rose will i ever see thee wed? i will marry at they will sire at thy will hey, ho nobody home meat nor drink nor money have i none still i will be merry hey, ho, nobody home ah poor bird why art thou flying in the shadows at this dark hour? the wind in the willows crying like a silly savage all the time the wind, the wind, the wind |
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29 Nov 06 - 12:41 AM (#1895260) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Melissa The version I know goes like this: Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose, Will I ever see thee wed? I'll marry at thy will sir, when thou art dead. |
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08 Apr 07 - 09:47 PM (#2020211) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Liz well, by putting together all of the different verses and versions of the versus, I have come up with a story that the rose song may or may not have expressed. It seems to me to be a story about a girl named rose (obviously) who had an affair with what seems to be a soldier. They ended up getting married after the war and had a child, a boy. After child was born rose took ill and passed away. Here's what I have of the lyrics: Rose rose rose rose will I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will sire if thou but stay Rose Rose Rose Rose will you be my lover tonight? I will love thee at thy will sire, at thy will Rose Rose Rose Rose When shall we meet again? When the nights are cold and lonely we shall meet again peace peace peace peace wars will end and wars will begin I shall never fight again never fight again what a godly thing if the children of the earth could dwell together in peace love love love love christians this is your call love thy neighbor as thy self for god loves all ding dong ding dong wedding bells on an April morn carve her name on a moss covered stone a moss covered stone hey ho nobody's home meat nor drink nor money have I But I'll still be very very merry hey ho nobody's home many a moon has waxed and waned on this day a child is born what shall be the name of the lad, rose? name of the lass come come come come join us in our happy home we celebrate our first born son our first born son gloom gloom gloom gloom my rose took ill at the harvest moon chills and fever torcher her so, lord why my rose? ding dong ding dong funeral bells on a september morn rose oh rose is dead and gone sire dead and gone brother, sister at my head lay my rose who now is dead lay her under the moss covered stone the moss covered stone At poor bird why art thou flying in the shadows of this dark hour? up poor bird take thy flight high above the sorrows of this sad night |
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23 Sep 07 - 07:10 PM (#2155900) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Robin I learned "Rose" at camp, but have sung this variant in mostly Pagan or activist setttings (ie. peace marches and the like): Love, love, love, love people we are made for love love your neighbor as yourself/thy self/your brother for we are one just adding my $.02 peace, Robin |
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15 Oct 07 - 03:55 PM (#2171791) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Calidath I learned this song at a few years back, so I may have it a bit wrong, but I think I learned it like this: Rose, rose, rose, red, Will I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will, sir, At thy will. Heigh ho, anybody home, Feed nor drink nor money have I known, Still I will be marry, married, Heigh ho, anybody home. America, America, Let us tell you how we feel, You have given us your treasures, And we love you still. Ding, Dong, Ding, Dong. Wedding bells on an Easter morn. Carve your name on a moss covered stone, On a moss covered stone. Oh, poor bird, Take thy flight, High above the sorrows of this sad night. There were a couple of verses in Hebrew(?) after that. |
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16 Oct 07 - 04:05 PM (#2172526) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: Melissa We sang one called "rosen fra fuhn" (which I no doubt spelled wrong) with Rose and Ah, Poor Bird. |
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22 Apr 08 - 09:14 PM (#2323210) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,a 12 year old rose,rose,rose,rose shall i ever see the wed i marry that thy will if thou but stay ding dong ding dong wedding bells on a september morn carve your name on a moss covered stone moss covered stone |
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10 May 08 - 08:45 AM (#2337077) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Joanna Rose Rose Rose Rose Shall I ever see thee wed? I will marry at my will, sir A my will Ding dong, ding dong Wedding bells on an April morn Carve thy name on a moss covered stone, on a moss covered stone Father, Mother dig my grave Dig it with a golden spad Tell my friends and two turtle doves That I died for true love. |
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12 Jun 08 - 09:57 PM (#2364725) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Zoe A verse I remember from camp goes like this Ding dong, ding dong Son of Mary, son of God I believe that you are my saviour Lord and my God |
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24 Jun 08 - 12:32 AM (#2373004) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,GUEST, Sirius My friends and I discovered that this round also works with the Christmas Carol "God rest Ye Merry Gentlemen", and it sounds really pretty Sirius =^.^= |
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24 Jun 08 - 12:36 AM (#2373005) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,GUEST, Lockheart Someone was talking about a hebrew verse, and while I don't speak hebrew, I know what they're talking about. The tune is different, but maybe someone else could find that. The words basicaly sound like: Ha shalom lay mahn ha ahmein Ha ahmein lay mahn ha shalom Sorry to anyone if I butchered that, I know that translated, these words can be sung to the same melody as above: Peace shall be for all the world All the world shall be for peace This definetly works with all the rounds you guys have been talking about |
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04 Jul 08 - 08:12 AM (#2380885) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Katherine I heard a version that I was told had something to do with Tudor propagander, about the untiting of the houses of York and Lancaster. Rose, rose, rose, red shall I ever see thee wed? I shall marry at thy will sire at thy will Red rose, White rose Now unite on Englands throne We shall have no treason, none sire Grow rose, grow It is something like that anyway, and then there are many verses after that I dont know. |
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06 Sep 09 - 01:46 PM (#2717518) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST I learned a variant of these round at summer camp this year though I'm no longer sure of the order it was something like this, (the second being molodic repitition of Zoom gally gally to the tune of rose. 1) Rose Rose Rose Red Shall I ever see the wed I will marry at my will sire, At my will 2) Zum gally gally 3) Hey Ho, Nobody's home No meat, no drink No money, have I none but still I will be very merry 4) A poor bird Why art thou Sing in the shadows At this dark hour 5) The wind in the willows Sighing like a solitary soul alone The wind, the wind, the wind, the wind 6) Ding Dong, Ding Dong Wedding bells on a April morn Carve your love on a moss covered stone On a moss covered stone 2 cents |
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10 Sep 09 - 02:54 PM (#2720874) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,I've got the same words in a different order Here's what I learned years ago at girl scout camp: Rose, rose, rose, rose Will I ever see thee wed? Carve your name on a moss covered stone On a moss covered stone Ding-dong, ding-dong Wedding bells on a September morning I will marry at thy will, sire At thy will |
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11 Sep 09 - 07:54 AM (#2721413) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: sing4peace My daughter and I used to sing it this way: Child, child, child, child Will I live to see you grow? I will fight for your future I love you so. I love you so. Oh what a goodly thing for the children of the world to live together in peace. In peace. Love, love, love, love people we are made for love love each other as ourselves for we are one, we are one. There's a tunnel along the bikepath here where I like to go with friends and sing this round.This round has some of the most haunting harmony I have ever heard. |
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08 Jan 10 - 12:22 AM (#2806284) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Mandi Don't forget this one: What a goodly thing, if the children of the world, could dwell together, in peace. |
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21 Jan 10 - 09:47 PM (#2818165) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST The version I grew up with (which has a slightly different cadence) takes a much darker turn. It describes the perspective of a Medieval girl who is being forced (likely by her father) to marry someone she doesn't love; to avoid this, she kills herself on her wedding day: Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose I will live to see thy wed. I'll be married at MY will, Father, at my will. Ding dong, Ding dong, wedding bells on a September morning. Carve my name on a moss-covered stone, on a moss-covered stone. Mother, Father, dig my grave. Dig my grave with a golden spade. Bring my friends and a white turtledove to show I died for love, to show I died for love. - |
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25 Oct 10 - 09:00 PM (#3015410) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,KT When I went to camp I learned it like this. We started with the "Rose" tune and wnet into "Thou poor bird" Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose Shall I ever see thee wed I shall marry at thy will, Sire At thy will Hey ho, nobody home Meat nor drink nor money have I none Yet I shall be merry Hey ho, nobody home Thou poor bird Take thy flight High above the sorrows Of this dark night. That's just what I learned, and I have no idea how that song came to that camp, the origin, ect. |
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30 Mar 11 - 05:13 AM (#3124637) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Aerith Wow! Another Steven's Ranch-er... but I probably predate you by a few years lol It's amazing that this song has so many variations, but it's really the same song at the core. That's oral traditions at work right there. Our version Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose Will I ever see thee wed? I shall marry at thy will, sire At thy will. The wind in the willows Sighs like a solitary soul alone The wind in the willows Sighs like a solitary soul alone Ah poor bird Take thy flight Up high above the sorrows of This sad night. Hey ho, nobody's home Meat, nor drink, nor money have I none But I will still be merry Hey ho, nobody's home Ding dong ding dong Wedding bells on a September morn Carve thy name on a moss covered stone A moss covered stone I always felt it was a story of a girl who was forced into a wedding by her father. Judging by the language, it would be during a time period where an arranged marriage is not rare. This was especially true since the final verse was in the same haunting, heavy melody from the first verse rather than something celebratory. I don't know... I always loved the feeling of singing it. It was one of my favorite campfire songs to teach the girls. This one, Tumbalalaika (woah, no idea how to spell that one) aka the Riddle, and Bah-Na-Nah (no words, just sound with both melody and harmony). |
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17 Jun 12 - 05:45 PM (#3364706) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST At my pre-school, we would sometimes get to a three-part round with: Oh, what a goodly thing When the people of the world All learn to dwell together I-in peace I am a poor, Wayfaring stranger I have no home, To call my won Ah, poor bird Take they flight far above the sorrows of this sad night. |
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12 Oct 12 - 11:48 AM (#3418663) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,GUEST, Harper Rose Wow, it's so fascinating to see all the variations. This is the way I learned it years ago at girl scout camp, though I've heard a few other verses since then. The first two are the same as others have already said here. Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose Will I ever see thee wed? I will marry at thy will, sire At thy will Ding, dong, ding, dong wedding bells on an April morn Carve thy name on a moss covered stone on a moss covered stone Love, love, love, love Gospel in a word is love Love thy neighbor as thy sister Love, love, love Peace, peace, peace, peace Wars will come and wars will cease When we learn to live together peace, peace, peace |
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15 Oct 12 - 04:58 PM (#3420387) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST I learned this song at a girls camp many years ago. The version I learned went like this: Rose, Rose, Rose, Rose, Will I ever see thee wed, I will marry at thy will, sire at thy will I won't be my father's Jack I won't be my mother's Jill I will be a fiddler's wife and fiddle when I will Ding Dong, Ding Dong Wedding bells on an April morn carve your name on a moss covered stone on a moss covered stone hey hoe, nobody's home eat, nor drink, nor money have I none still I will be marry hey hoe hum oh poor bird, why art thou flying in the shadows at this dark hour Who can sail when there is no wind or no oars to be rowing and who can sail away from friends with no tears a flowing I can sail when there is no wind or no oars to be rowing but I can't sail away from friends with no tears a flowing |
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28 Apr 14 - 10:26 AM (#3622716) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Atlanta I have just realized that the Rose Rose round I learned in Girl Scouts has essentially the same melody as the Ma Tovu prayer in Hebrew. Charlie Baum's comment - copied below - is the only mention of this I have seen on the internet! Thank you all for this discussion :-) Subject: RE: From: Charlie Baum Date: 14 Jun 97 - 10:53 PM The first set of words I ever learned to that tune were in Hebrew: A transliteration: Mah tovu, // ohalecha ya'akov, // mishkinotecha yisrael. ("Ch" is fricative as in Scottish "loch") It translates as: "How goodly are your tents, O Jacob, your habitations, O Israel." It is sometimes sung in the synagogue at the very beginning of a service. --Charlie Baum |
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23 Jul 16 - 11:30 PM (#3801759) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Hope I have also heard "buliding bridges" sung as a verse at my Quaker camp. These are allo the verses I remember singing. It goes as a round until everyone is singing 'I love you so much' at the end. Hey ho nobody home No meat nor drink nor money have I none But still I will be merry Hey ho nobody home Buliding bridges between our divisions I reach out to you and you reach out to me With all of our voices and all of our visions Friends we can make such a sweet harmony Rose rose rose rose Will I ever see thy wed I will marry at thy will Rose rose rose rose Ah poor bird Take your flight High above the sorrows Of this dark night Dear friend dear friend Shall I tell you how I feel You have given me such treasures I love you so much. |
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03 Nov 17 - 08:27 PM (#3886660) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST,Blubb The last one is german and goes: "Heyo, spann den Wagen an. Sieh der Wind treibt Regen ?bers Land. Hol' die gold'nen Gaben, hol' die gold'nen Gaben." I can't really translate it word by word because it's old and my English isn't good enough. But it speaks of someone who says to a boy that he should go out and bring the harvest in because rain is coming. I'm sorry if I made mistakes or if this doesn't make sense... |
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23 Dec 17 - 05:06 AM (#3895387) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Rose, Rose' round: More verses? From: GUEST the real german version(cuz i saw that the one german version listed here was not quite right.) theo spann den wagen an sieh der wind treibt regen übers land holt die goldnen garben holt die goldnen garben |