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Tech: Mudcat slow?

13 Nov 08 - 03:04 AM (#2492475)
Subject: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Paul Burke

The last couiple of days, I've noticed that Mudcat seems furchtbar slow- frequently hangs and times out. This is with Firefox 3 and the NoScript plugin. Other sites are normal, so it's possibly not this end. Anyone else had problems?


13 Nov 08 - 03:35 AM (#2492489)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST

No


13 Nov 08 - 03:43 AM (#2492492)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: JohnInKansas

When I tried to hook up on Monday morning I couldn't get in at all. My connection "hung" until early Wednesday morning when my friendly ISP guy brought me a new modem - so I suspect that's not your problem.

The only "slow connections" I've seen here in recent months are always with a "waiting for AdServer" notation in the IE status bar at the bottom, so I assume it's traffic conflicts/collisions with the remote server that delivers the little Google ads. Usually a "refresh" will connect instantly, which probably indicates it's not high traffic; but if I don't "kick the tires" the hang may last last for a very long time - (probably on the order of ten or fifteen seconds) indicating a likely "packet collision" which is more likely to give you a "dead" link.

The ads are, I think, linked by jscript(?), so your NoScript plugin could actually be what's bogging you down. I find the over-use of java scripts annoying, but with current plugins the malware vulnerabilities appear to be reasonably well controlled, and so many sites are now using it for legitimate(???) purposes that it's almost necessary to have it available.

My "blockers" ask permission before allowing scripts from sites I haven't prevously approved; but then a quick click lets the script run - or not - as I decide. I've encountered a very-rare-few pages (not at mudcat, mostly at Yahoo "groups") that won't load at all without scripting. That's so very rude that I don't ever look at those pages.

John


13 Nov 08 - 03:48 AM (#2492498)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: VirginiaTam

I've been having trouble with Mudcat all morning. Connection is fine, can access other sites no problem. But clicking many of the thread links gets me an error page. Nevermind trying to post. I will be surprised if this posts.


13 Nov 08 - 03:51 AM (#2492502)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Paul Burke

Seems to be an intermittent thing- it siezed completely half an hour ago, but it's smooth as peanut butter now.


13 Nov 08 - 03:53 AM (#2492504)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Liz the Squeak

I've been having that too.

Max has been doing some tweaking to the site - there's a big thread about it, and I suspect that the errors are coming up because of that. But I'm no techie so don't quote me!

I've noticed it seems to get indigestion when I try to open the larger threads - anything over 15 posts gets me the error message, but the smaller ones like this seem to be OK for now.

I would suggest you just be patient and, as I'm attempting to, get some real work done instead! :D

LTS


13 Nov 08 - 06:44 AM (#2492614)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: VirginiaTam

Real work! I am taking a flexi day today. The plan is to stay in and play. Work she says. :P


13 Nov 08 - 09:06 AM (#2492702)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Leadfingers

Work is the Curse of the Surfin' classes !


13 Nov 08 - 09:13 AM (#2492709)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Max

Yeah, its my fault. I'm copying a lot of data off the server to create a 2nd database for a development server. The mudcat database server keeps pretty busy with its mudcat duties and is getting a bit angry with me that I'm asking it to do more. Growing pains.


13 Nov 08 - 10:35 AM (#2492776)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

I figured it was something like that--keep up the good work! I've noticed some pages are slow to load, but then, my system isn't speedy and needs upgrading itself.

Last year I made several Amazon purchases through the Mudcat link, so I'm glad to see from your report on that other thread that the effort makes a difference to the Mudcat bottom line.

Another thing that can slow threads is some of the security software on your machine. There is a noticeable slowdown when I let my AVG anti-virus software use it's "link scanner" feature. It is actually a useful tool I should be using, but while my connection is so slow, I have it turned off. You might want to see if you have updated or installed anything like this that is causing new pages to hang or load slowly.

SRS


13 Nov 08 - 11:52 AM (#2492831)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Bill D

Yep...that 'link scanner' feature is a nice idea, but it's like checking the I.D. of everyone at an Obama rally....it really backs up the crowd.


13 Nov 08 - 12:05 PM (#2492841)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: catspaw49

LOL.....I just finished reading this thread and wasn't going to post but when I clicked "Forum Home" I got the Error message. Just another one of those "Mudcat Synchronicities."

Now if it doesn't take this message or loses it, that will make it even funnier..........except no one else will know. Hmmmmmmm..............Okay.....If you see this post have a chuckle and if you don't have two chuckles! And if you can walk and chew gum at the same time and grab your ass with BOTH hands as well, then bugger off......You're no fun at all.

Spaw


13 Nov 08 - 12:25 PM (#2492870)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,Mr Red

Lost posts have been a problem for a while I have seen on broadband, public PC's and dial-up so it definitely was a Mucat problem. - particularly when trying to tell a newbie "how to" over the phone (basic is too complicated a word to describe it) and missing posts then cause all sorts of confusion.

But we are a community - we work together - at the speed allowed.


13 Nov 08 - 03:49 PM (#2493079)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

Posts go missing when the form won't load and you don't go looking for your post right away. If you realize it didn't stick before you've clicked away from the page too far you can go back and get your response, open a new window, go to Mudcat, and paste it in and it should go that time.

SRS


13 Nov 08 - 04:20 PM (#2493098)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Bill D

It happens to me at times, and I **reload** Mudcat and it works fine...not *refresh* like at the top of Mudcat, but **reload** in your browser.


13 Nov 08 - 04:23 PM (#2493099)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

Reload doesn't seem to work for me. It might partly be the browser I'm using (IE, most of the time).


13 Nov 08 - 08:30 PM (#2493304)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Charley Noble

Several of my posts have been hanging fire, and they were brilliant, at the moment. I saved them but "the moment had passed" when I rechecked them.

I can certainly live with upgrade inconvenience!

Upgrade, baby, upgrade!

Charley Noble


19 Nov 08 - 08:01 PM (#2498107)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe Offer

Are others still having trouble? It seemed to me that the problem is the Google ads. The page will load, but my mouse cursor jumps back and forth and I can't navigate on the page until the ad finishes loading. Now I notice there's an Amazon ad, complete with mouseover popups. Maybe THAT is that ad that's giving me trouble. It's a big box with lots of links on it, and mousing over each link will bring up a picture and more links.
I have a fast connection and a fast computer, but those ads are too much for me - even if they DO pay the rent.

-Joe-


20 Nov 08 - 02:46 AM (#2498209)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,suzi

No..... Running great here in Hull uk, well at least mine is...Thank you Joe.


20 Nov 08 - 02:55 AM (#2498213)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Paul Burke

It seems a tiny touch slower than it used to be; if I load a long thread (a 50 chunk say), and I'm too quick off the mark clicking on a poster's name, it goes there briefly before returning to the top again. I don't remember this befiore.

But the problem I asked about originally was serious slowness, and Max's explanation of lots of copying seems to have been correct.


20 Nov 08 - 04:04 PM (#2498737)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe Offer

Am I the only one having trouble with those Amazon links? It completely freezes my browser until it finishes loading. I can't look at other tabs while the thing is loading, either. It seems to happen only when there's an Amazon link loading on the most recent page. Doesn't seem to be the Google ads.

-Joe-


20 Nov 08 - 04:10 PM (#2498743)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: John MacKenzie

No probs here so far, on Firefox anyway.

JM


20 Nov 08 - 04:23 PM (#2498757)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

I've noticed the mouse arrow quivers while pages load, but I can't say this is exclusive to Mudcat. I'll have to pay more attention. It never used to do that.

SRS


20 Nov 08 - 04:36 PM (#2498773)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: MMario

Amazon does that to me frquently - not just off mudcat.


20 Nov 08 - 05:54 PM (#2498833)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: The Fooles Troupe

Your arrow quivers? Are they full? have you shot your bolt?


... bye now...


20 Nov 08 - 08:47 PM (#2498966)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Max

Yeah, this one amazon widget causes some weirdness. I'm getting rid of it.


21 Nov 08 - 07:57 AM (#2499233)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Snuffy

I've been getting the same behaviour on the home PC, but not at work, though both have broadband connections: the cursor oscillates and the browser is locked up until the ad is loaded. Good to hear you're zapping it, Max


15 Sep 09 - 11:58 AM (#2724169)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: katlaughing

Anyone else having trouble with slow loading? I've dumped cookies, cleared my cache, and still each time I click on a thread, page, etc. it is r-e-a-l-l-y slow. AVG, spybot, and adaware say my PC is okay and other websites are loading at regular broadband speed.

Thanks,

kat


15 Sep 09 - 12:07 PM (#2724179)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Amos

Same here--it is only half as fast as it has been. Not that I am accusing Maxof being half-fast. I'm just saying... ;>0


15 Sep 09 - 12:15 PM (#2724184)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: BB

Certainly not good today...


15 Sep 09 - 12:25 PM (#2724192)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: bfdk

It's been s-l-o-w for some days as seen from here.


15 Sep 09 - 12:32 PM (#2724198)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: BobKnight

Just today - I log on and the header comes up, but the page is blank. After about 20-30 seconds the "threads" appear. Didn't used to be like that.


15 Sep 09 - 12:33 PM (#2724199)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: longboat (inactive)

The cat is definitely having a slow day today, it started (or stopped) for me, late yesterday (14th Sept.)


15 Sep 09 - 12:37 PM (#2724204)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield

yes, agree with all these comments - very slow for the last day or so.
derek


15 Sep 09 - 12:57 PM (#2724219)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: katlaughing

Thanks, folks. Good to know it's not just me, I guess...:-)


15 Sep 09 - 01:21 PM (#2724237)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: VirginiaTam

Same here. I thought it was my plaptop and kept swearing at it.

Did you know that my machine reacts negatively in proportion to my level of stress?

It is one of them there vacuous siecle things.


sucked into the vortex of cyber despair


15 Sep 09 - 01:24 PM (#2724240)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Monique

Same here. It started yesterday.


15 Sep 09 - 01:25 PM (#2724241)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: gnu

I just figured it was the beagle again.


15 Sep 09 - 01:43 PM (#2724252)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: The Sandman

yes very slow,other sites are not


15 Sep 09 - 01:54 PM (#2724259)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe Offer

Yeah, it's slow. I sent Max a text message just now. We were down off and on all night.

-Joe-


15 Sep 09 - 02:02 PM (#2724263)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: ard mhacha

I was getting, error 267, Sunday all day.


15 Sep 09 - 04:50 PM (#2724361)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Tootler

Definitely sluggish for me tonight. I thought it might have been my so called broadband connection which has deteriorated massively recently, but if others are having problems then maybe it is mudcat this time.


15 Sep 09 - 05:26 PM (#2724385)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: terrier

I've been following the L'pool Folk Club thread and over the last few days it takes forever to load, I thought it was just 'overuse.' :)


15 Sep 09 - 05:38 PM (#2724395)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Bill D

Might be the hosting company...might be Max playing with it..


15 Sep 09 - 05:55 PM (#2724408)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: dwditty

Max is simply catering to the appreciation of the folk tradition and has implemented measures to take us back to the good old days of dial up.


15 Sep 09 - 06:17 PM (#2724426)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe_F

It does seem to be taking its time to bring up long threads & to refresh.


15 Sep 09 - 07:53 PM (#2724467)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stewie

Very slow yesterday and today.

--Stewie.


15 Sep 09 - 08:04 PM (#2724470)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Fergie

Yes definitely much slower but still the best site on the internet IMHO

Fergus


15 Sep 09 - 08:35 PM (#2724485)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Beer

Slow as cold molasses running up hill in the month of January.
Beer (adrien)


15 Sep 09 - 09:10 PM (#2724498)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Janie

I've noticed it more problems with it being slow, and also off-line, ever since Max moved to "the mountain."   

I'm really, really ignorant about such things, but I notice since I moved to a more rural area last year, my DSL is slower. My theory is the phone company has not invested as much in the infrastructure and carrying capacity as they have in more urban areas, so the lines carry more traffic, and are slower for that reason. If there is any merit to that notion (and some one please feel free to educate me if it is a stupid theory,) I assume that if I had a server from which I was running a site such as the 'Cat, it would also be slower to respond to those accessing it.

Actually, I have no idea why, and that seemed to be the best ignorant answer I could come up with.


15 Sep 09 - 10:50 PM (#2724541)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

It is screaming along...as usual...with my configuration.

BLOCK the paypal, and google.analytics, etc...and active X and Java.

Mudcat...is a good-ol' fashioned BBS (text based)...one of the last remaining creatures of its kind....it should stay that way....but someone is always out for an extra buck.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I find it fun...to drop in from active X (push marketing sites) and then watch the exchange...as the limited bandwidth of the MC is consumed by media and ads attempting to connect from the Big Mogul Guys ... corruption ... that is like a Zombie Attack (great J. Tanner play)


15 Sep 09 - 10:55 PM (#2724542)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Effsee

Ye Gods, but this place is slow tonight...and has been for hours. Summat wrong somewhere!


16 Sep 09 - 12:01 AM (#2724568)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

Changing browsers didn't help, so I am assuming it's from the source. It has been so long since our chronic Mudcat slowness and crashes that we're all spoiled now.

Thanks for all of your work, Max!

SRS


16 Sep 09 - 12:29 AM (#2724576)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Tim Leaning

What Stilly River sage said...


16 Sep 09 - 01:21 AM (#2724582)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: John J

One thing I am absolutely sure of: Max knows of the situation and he's doing something about it.

He's a shiny star!

JJ


16 Sep 09 - 05:50 AM (#2724663)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Interestingly the first couple of dozen posts to this thread seemed to be dated 2 months in the future....Now thats clever!!!
Anyone in futureworld able to tell me next weeks lottery numbers?!


16 Sep 09 - 06:08 AM (#2724669)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: theleveller

Been running slowly for a few days - it's taking so long to load that I have to leave it and do something else. Getting on to long threads is practically impossible.


16 Sep 09 - 06:35 AM (#2724674)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Mooh

It has been sluggish for me too, but this morning I'm sluggish too. As soon as we synchronize it won't be as obvious.

Is it Friday yet?

Peace, Mooh.


16 Sep 09 - 08:32 AM (#2724718)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: maeve

Guest, Ralphie- Future? From my place set firmly in the Present time, I'd call November 2008 a part of the past. Time travel is sure confusing, eh?

maeve


16 Sep 09 - 08:42 AM (#2724724)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Beer

"We are living in the future
I'll tell you how I know
I read it in the paper
Fifteen years ago
We're all driving rocket ships
And talking with our minds
And wearing turquoise jewelry
And standing in soup lines
We are standing in soup lines"

..................John Prine

Adrien


16 Sep 09 - 10:08 AM (#2724767)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: melodeonboy

Yes, it's really ssssssssllllllllloooooowwwwwwww!


16 Sep 09 - 10:38 AM (#2724782)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Stilly River Sage

Ralphie, this is the adaptive re-use of an old thread. :)


16 Sep 09 - 11:52 AM (#2724819)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: jacqui.c

I'm just opening the threads I want to look at in new tabs on Mozilla. Just like going through the supermarket shelves, pick an interesting one, right click, open in new tab, go on down the list to where I stopped last night and then go through the now opened threads.


16 Sep 09 - 12:23 PM (#2724836)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST

Slooooooooooooow, it has ground to a halt, I cant send a message, it keeps jamming.


16 Sep 09 - 12:30 PM (#2724844)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: ard mhacha

I was the Guest, tis Site is in serious trouble, all my other Site are ok, I`M GETTING OUT QUICK IN CASE i HAVE TO RE0BOOT.


16 Sep 09 - 01:21 PM (#2724865)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: ranger1

My guess is that there may be some site maintenance going on. At first I thought it was my computer, SO had downloaded something and I was worried that it might have caused a virus, but then I read a post from Janie somewhere that the 'cat was slow so I stopped worrying.


16 Sep 09 - 01:26 PM (#2724868)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: VirginiaTam

I think it is the advertisement applications. That is why Mudcat is blocked at my work. Something in the code that forces the ECC Information Security Policy screen to rear its ugly head when I go to Mudcat since the move to the new server.

I just work through lunch and breaks now.

But is annoying that it is slow at home, because I only have so much time to devote to Mudcat and I fear I am missing so much.


16 Sep 09 - 01:42 PM (#2724878)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe Offer

I can assure you that this time, the problem is Mudcat and not your computer. I'm sure Max will get it fixed when he can.

Oh, and Ralphie, take another look at the dates of the messages up top....

-Joe-


16 Sep 09 - 02:06 PM (#2724898)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: My guru always said

Hey jacqui, that a good idea!!!


16 Sep 09 - 02:45 PM (#2724911)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: jeddy

i haven't been here for a few days, i get bored very easily. the page loads ok, but i get the top of the page and rest takes awile to load too. glad is isn't just me, i have been messin around with the settings and stuff so thought i had messed up somewhere.

janie, i think the further you are from whatever it is that sends the signal, thew slower your connection gets. they really need to invest in small towns and villages, to keep connections good everywhere.

take care all, and be patient, someting i have never beengood at.

good luck

jade x x x x


16 Sep 09 - 02:47 PM (#2724913)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: jeddy

that was second time lucky, i am glad when you press the back button, it saves the message that has just been written. LOL

j x x x x x


16 Sep 09 - 03:06 PM (#2724920)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: katlaughing

Now, it still hangs up a long time just at the end of loading AND< once I get to a thread, post and push Send, it takes me to the 503 Service Unavailable page. I hit the refresh button, it asks me if I want it to resend info, I say yes and, after a long wait, it takes me to the thread to which I posted.


16 Sep 09 - 03:13 PM (#2724922)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: gnu

I just heard from a buddy... it is running much faster for him today, so it may be improving.


16 Sep 09 - 04:15 PM (#2724950)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: gnu

Oh wow man! It's zippin right quick now!


16 Sep 09 - 05:22 PM (#2724987)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Richard Bridge

Less slow to load this thread...


16 Sep 09 - 07:18 PM (#2725067)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: SharonA

Took me three tries to trace a thread just now. Got that "503 Service Unavailable" message the first two times.

I have similar problems opening a thread and posting a message. Trying, trying again to do these actions until I "catch" each Mudcat page.

Maybe I need better bait?


16 Sep 09 - 10:47 PM (#2725190)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Janie

Very weird. Response is much faster, but still getting "503 error message adiministrator has taken site off-line" frequently (and quickly.) When I either refresh or hit the "back" button, the site is quickly and appropriately responsive.


16 Sep 09 - 10:47 PM (#2725192)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Gweltas

Having similar problems with slow loading and the appearance of the 503 page !! Hopefully Max will sort it soon, as its a right pain in the posterior at present.
XX


17 Sep 09 - 01:24 AM (#2725232)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: michaelr

Glacial at the moment.


17 Sep 09 - 02:52 AM (#2725240)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Kampervan

I have to agree with Janie. Lots of '503' messages and sometimes the Forum Home page can take 30 - 40 seconds to load.

This feedback is constructively meant. Love the site and I'm sure that Max et al are working hard to sort it. Good luck and thanks to them.
Regards
K/van


17 Sep 09 - 10:22 AM (#2725318)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: artbrooks

I think Max may be slightly sidetracked...he is back in a town that worships college football. A slow Mudcat is better than no Mudcat - all I need to do to feel better is remember the days of 1200kbpm dial-up connections.


17 Sep 09 - 12:04 PM (#2725406)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Soldier boy

I've had problems for the past 3 or 4 days. Keep getting 503 error message or the site is unavailable and on one occasion I had nearly finished quite a long posting when it suddenly vanished; very frustrating!
Today when I clicked on Lyrics and Knowledge it seemed to take ages for all the threads to come up, so if anything, it's got worse.


17 Sep 09 - 12:32 PM (#2725429)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Soldier boy

Could it be anything to do with the "Google Friend Connect" site now appearing at the top of the home page? I am a complete technophobe but just wondered if this is a huge Google site and if so could it be sapping up all yer juice (so to speak).


17 Sep 09 - 12:36 PM (#2725430)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: katlaughing

Wonder if BillD is going to have to bring the hamsters out of retirement?


17 Sep 09 - 02:49 PM (#2725519)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST

I have blocked google-analytics from sending outgoing packets.

I have zero problems with the Mudcat.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Do you want "bells and whistles" or do you want the Mudcat?


17 Sep 09 - 03:05 PM (#2725526)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Consumation of actions very slow.

I wonder if the Mudcat is overloaded?
Removal of all below-the-belt BS before current and two weeks of messages would free a lot of disc space.

Removal of these old excretions and archiving them outside of the active Mudcat for future sociologists and psychologists may be helpful.


17 Sep 09 - 03:08 PM (#2725532)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

It appears to me -
They have implemented -
My once lamented -
Suggestion -

THREE and LET It Be !

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

A limit of THREE postings within any Mudcat 24 hours. This is the reason Mr. Joe wants consistant sign in names. It will greatly increase the quality of Mudcat - and decrease the whinners.


    Oh, Garg, what am I going to do with you?
    yours truly,
    -Joe Offer-


17 Sep 09 - 03:30 PM (#2725546)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: GUEST,Roj

Sorry, Max, this is shocking. I've got a 20 Mb/s connection (measured at 19.38) and it's taking minute to get to a thread. What happened?


17 Sep 09 - 07:16 PM (#2725700)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: McGrath of Harlow

I thought it must be my computer, but I;ve defragmented eveything, and it doesn't happen on other sites.

I do hope this clears up soon. It's getting to the stage where I'm starting to use the Mudcat differently. I click on a thread to open a threrad, and while the Cat is getting ready to perform, I pop off to visit some other site in another tab, and come back later.


18 Sep 09 - 07:46 AM (#2725922)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: glueman

Connections are timing out on Mudcat but no other sites. Mudcat, we have a problem.


18 Sep 09 - 08:00 AM (#2725934)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: maeve

"Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow since the upgrade?
From: Joe Offer - PM
Date: 16 Sep 09 - 01:42 PM

I can assure you that this time, the problem is Mudcat and not your computer. I'm sure Max will get it fixed when he can."
***************************************
That's good enough information for me for now. Thanks.

maeve


18 Sep 09 - 08:51 AM (#2725954)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Max

My fault. Well, actually it's your fault. Here's how it is. Mudcat is, what, 13 years old now? At last check, we're well over 3 million messages in almost 100,000 threads. Add to that the Digitrad, PMs, links, etc and so on, and essentially, we're bloated. That's not a real problem normally. But in reaction to the super search not functioning properly and another weird issue involving the file size of all this data, it takes a LOOOOONG time to do things, even with fast computers and big bandwidth. So every time I try to solve a problem, make an adjustment or improvement, this kind of thing happens. Some sites would just go offline for a spell, but frankly, I'm scared that mudcatters will start showing up at my door. And since I now live in the woods, I keep a shotgun by the door and expect only the postman, the UPS man and the Fedex Lady. Anyone else definitely at least gets aimed at.

Also, other sites have the luxury of downtimes such as 3am EST because their users are asleep. Due to the global nature of mudcat, there is no downtime. As one group lays down, another is burning the toast.

Make sense?


18 Sep 09 - 09:09 AM (#2725964)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Leadfingers

Thanks for that bit of info Max ! I at least realise that you DO have a life outside of Mudcat , and am grateful for the friensdship I have found through the site . Keep up the good work sir !


18 Sep 09 - 09:14 AM (#2725969)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Jack Blandiver

It slow down here when that rogues gallery thing shows up, so much so that sometimes I have to refresh the connection...


18 Sep 09 - 09:33 AM (#2725983)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: bobad

Blazing along now, it is.


18 Sep 09 - 09:39 AM (#2725985)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: artbrooks

A life outside Mudcat? Nittany Lions - Bah!

Max, give us all a couple of days fair warning, shut the system and down and do what'ch gotta do. We'll survive. Wait until after football season.


18 Sep 09 - 10:17 AM (#2725997)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Max

Careful Art.


18 Sep 09 - 10:46 AM (#2726024)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: John J

It's flying now - well done that man!

John


18 Sep 09 - 10:49 AM (#2726028)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Rog Peek

Congratulations mate, what an improvement. thanks Max.

Rog


18 Sep 09 - 10:53 AM (#2726029)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: bfdk

Yup, it's working as before now. Thanks, Max :-)


18 Sep 09 - 11:20 AM (#2726044)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: jeddy

working well for me too. whatever you did max, thanks. it was starting to drive me nuts!

take care all, and max, if you see a small lass coming towards you house, please don't shoot, i come bearing beer!!!!!

jade x x x x x


18 Sep 09 - 11:24 AM (#2726045)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Brian Peters

Yes, that's better. It was getting very tedious waiting to download 200-odd messages' worth of 'What's the Tradition'. Thanks!


18 Sep 09 - 12:05 PM (#2726067)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Sandy Mc Lean

Ah Max, she's fast as a greased eel now. Thanks!


18 Sep 09 - 12:43 PM (#2726097)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: artbrooks

Very, very nice. Now, if Penn State only had a couple of running backs that fast...


18 Sep 09 - 12:54 PM (#2726107)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: gnu

Just a reminder for newbies, if you click the "d" next to the number of posts, you can download 50 at a time... much faster.


18 Sep 09 - 01:18 PM (#2726120)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: gnu

Of course.... that little d is so small that it's hard to tell if you have already clicked it if your eyesight is not what it used to be so you might click it again to see if you clicked it before if your memory is not what it used to be and that takes server time too.

I think it would be a good idea to change it, say to "Last 50 posts" or whatever, but that would take time and Max is bogged as it is. Plus, last post by Max explained why it might not be a good idea... I think... my eyesight and my memory are waning.


18 Sep 09 - 03:12 PM (#2726200)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Rasener

Well done Max

You shouldn't worry about us. You should take the service off air to suit yourself, not us. After all what would we do, if you didn't sort things out occasionally.

Anybody that moans about you taking it down, should have 10 lashes on the backside/butt.


18 Sep 09 - 03:44 PM (#2726224)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: McGrath of Harlow

That isn't what the little d is specifically for. Click either on the number or on the little d, and you get the posts split up into 50s. The difference is that the little d reverses the order on what you get with the slightly larger underlined number.


18 Sep 09 - 04:04 PM (#2726231)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: katlaughing

And the "d" will take you to the most recent posting.

Better, Max, thanks!


18 Sep 09 - 06:41 PM (#2726338)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: gnu

Ahhhh... yeah... that is what the little d is specifically for. You get the last 50 posts. Am I missing sommat McG?


18 Sep 09 - 06:57 PM (#2726350)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Janie

Thanks, Mr. Max.


18 Sep 09 - 08:49 PM (#2726403)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Fergie

Max is the man. Well done Max. For sevices above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks Max

Fergus


18 Sep 09 - 09:05 PM (#2726410)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Max

Art,

According to my information, your closest college is the University of New Mexico, and your Lobos happen to be 0-2 with a combined score of 85 to 16.

And it's not the running backs that are the problem, its the offensive line.

You keep it up, mister, and I'll edit all your posts, replacing whatever folk musician you mention with punk and rap artists.

Don't mess with my Nittany Lions.


18 Sep 09 - 09:53 PM (#2726419)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: artbrooks

Potent threats indeed - but I root for Utah and anyone who plays BYU. My wife is from Pgh and my daughter has a degree from Pitt, so there is a certain - atmosphere - ya know.   I shall crawl back in my hole and allow you your delusions.


18 Sep 09 - 10:30 PM (#2726433)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Max

Hmmm, certainly not a fan, but I gotta root for BYU this weekend. Tell you what, if we don't put 200 rushing on Temple, I'll yield. Clearly you ain't backing down.


18 Sep 09 - 10:54 PM (#2726446)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Janie

How 'bout them 'eers?"

West Virginia, that is.


19 Sep 09 - 11:36 PM (#2727061)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

Slow on my intake....

I expect that Mudcat will be seeing "DoubleClick"

In The Near Future?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

One of the most incessant...and yet easiest to block...but I believe they have a "new powerhouse" behind their push.


20 Sep 09 - 05:56 AM (#2727171)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Leadfingers

Thanks from me too Max ! Nice to be back up to speed ¬


20 Sep 09 - 08:09 AM (#2727222)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST,JimMartin

I keep getting this error coming up:

http://www.mudcat.org/@NewSSResults.cfm


20 Sep 09 - 08:12 AM (#2727223)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST,JimMartin

Error Occurred While Processing Request

Error Diagnostic Information

An error occurred while evaluating the expression:

(len(trim(FORM.UserName)) gt 0) and ((left(FORM.Subject,3) is not "RE:") and (FindNoCase("http:", FORM.body)) or ((len(FORM.body) - len(replacenocase(FORM.body,"http:","","ALL"))) gt 10) or (FindNoCase("sites", FORM.Subject)) )

Error near line 21, column 38.

This is the message I keep getting:

"Error resolving parameter FORM.USERNAME

The specified form field cannot be found. This problem is very likely due to the fact that you have misspelled the form field name.

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFIF), occupying document position (21:1) to (21:234) in the template file C:\!webserver\mudcat\htdocs\ThreadNewMess-Sub.cfm.

Date/Time: 09/20/09 08:09:58
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.0.14) Gecko/2009082707 Firefox/3.0.14 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)
Remote Address: 212.100.250.227"


22 Sep 09 - 06:55 AM (#2728678)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST,JimMartin

refresh


22 Sep 09 - 11:50 PM (#2729347)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST

Jim - You are a smart fellow - you fellow smart - what do YOU believe the translation of your message means? Asstoude enough to know cut and paste...don't let rest go to waiste


06 Oct 09 - 07:51 AM (#2739471)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Monique

Is it just me or is Mudcat slow again?


06 Oct 09 - 08:00 AM (#2739479)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Tug the Cox

Nope, mine started a go slow last night.


06 Oct 09 - 08:09 AM (#2739484)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: jeddy

mine too is on a go slow. i thought it was IE but switching to firefox has only improved it abit.

take care all

jade x x x


06 Oct 09 - 07:31 PM (#2740024)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Tug the Cox

Back to normal.


07 Oct 09 - 07:10 AM (#2740290)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin

Seems to be getting slower & slower (about 2mins for some threads to come up)!


07 Oct 09 - 07:17 AM (#2740292)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Mr Happy

Seems severely retarded from here


07 Oct 09 - 07:59 AM (#2740306)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: jeddy

mines got worse. ggrrrr

max, even a slow mudcat is better than no mudcat at all!!!!

take care all

jade x x x


07 Oct 09 - 08:02 AM (#2740308)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: John MacKenzie

It's crap, yet again. What a fucking waste of space it is lately


07 Oct 09 - 08:09 AM (#2740310)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Dave Hanson

No, slow is better than not at all.

Dave H


07 Oct 09 - 11:18 AM (#2740431)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Tug the Cox

Yep, slow again.


07 Oct 09 - 12:41 PM (#2740501)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Charley Noble

Most likely some maintenance going on or needed.

Charley Noble


07 Oct 09 - 03:48 PM (#2740650)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: The Barden of England

It's slow, but still wonderful!
John Barden


07 Oct 09 - 04:28 PM (#2740688)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: terrier

Mine ain't slow, it's just progressing verrrry carefully :)


07 Oct 09 - 10:29 PM (#2740907)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Effsee

Slow, especially threads this long!


07 Oct 09 - 11:57 PM (#2740934)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Peace

Many folks are one with what many folks call the "I want it give it to me right now" generation. As with all things, Mudcat slowness will pass.


05 Jan 10 - 05:51 PM (#2804314)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: katlaughing

Anyone else having trouble with Mudcat, today? It is really, really slow, times out, etc. I've dumped all of my cookies, cache, history, etc. no virus, etc. No problem on other websites. Wonder what Max is cooking up?


05 Jan 10 - 06:20 PM (#2804339)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Joe Offer

Yes, it does seem slow, especially with some functions. I posted a message with a really dumb mistake in it, and I couldn't get the editing function to work and now I have to live with my mistake.
(no, I won't say where the mistake is....people think Max gave me an edit button so I could help people, but it really was because I made so many dumb mistakes that needed correction)

-Joe-


05 Jan 10 - 06:47 PM (#2804359)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Bonnie Shaljean

That's a relief, I thought it was only me. There was also a "frozen" period yesterday where nothing moved or got added, and people in some of the threads mentioned trying to post and not being able to. But during that time I send a dummy PM as a test, which got through and also made it back on the Reply journey, so that part of the site seems to have been functional.

While I'm writing: Whazzup with the Search function? At least for the Forum (haven't tried the DT) I cannot get it to work AT ALL. Whatever I ask for, it just shakes its head at me and says No Results. Even when I look for obvious things that I KNOW are in there. And one thread - not a contentious one as far as I can see, so I can't imagine it got deleted - has completely disappeared from the site altogether.

??? [cue Twilight Zone music na-na-na-na, na-na-na-na...]


15 Dec 10 - 04:21 PM (#3054222)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Joe Offer

It has seemed slow to me over the last few days. Is anybody else noticing unusual slowness, or is it my Internet connection?

-Joe-


05 Sep 12 - 11:33 AM (#3400383)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: John MacKenzie

25 seconds minimum to open any thread !!


05 Sep 12 - 11:36 AM (#3400386)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: John MacKenzie

TWICE as long to post !!


05 Sep 12 - 05:20 PM (#3400514)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: gnu

Have a cup of tea and shine up yer pic-a-nic tables ya growley old bear.

>;-)


05 Sep 12 - 05:32 PM (#3400521)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Joe Offer

Hmmm. They're loading in about two seconds for me, John.
And then a couple minutes later, it will take forever to load a thread.
-Joe-


05 Sep 12 - 05:39 PM (#3400524)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Henry Krinkle

Does Mudcat have a virus? Cold? Flu? Chicken or Monkey Pox?
(:-( 0)=


05 Sep 12 - 05:53 PM (#3400534)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: Midchuck

It's definitely slow today. But I think it's just the Bullshit Filter getting clogged and backing up the pipeline.

P.


05 Sep 12 - 07:47 PM (#3400573)
Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat slow?
From: gnu

Heheheheee!