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19 Dec 08 - 10:52 AM (#2519832) Subject: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Comrac (troll alert contact max) With the pound and the euro more or less the same we are now seeing the Tide turn as Poles end great migration. A wave of immigration that helped to fuel Ireland's early 21st century boom is over. Hard statistics on the number of Poles leaving Britain do not exist. There are no embarkation controls on EU members so they are are not counted out. But Polish officials, Irish/British employment agencies and the Polish media all believe that the tide of immigration has turned. Since Poland joined the EU in 2004, 274,065 Poles have signed up for work permits. They make up 66 per cent of all applications from Eastern European countries. But a combination of tightening economic conditions in this country, a comparatively weak pound and an unprecendented surge in the Polish economy has made it unattractive for Poles to remain. Half of the estimated one million British-based Poles are expected to return home within the next few months. This means you will be able to get an appointment with your doctor or dentist a lot quicker and there will be primary school places available. There has been a number of murders within the Polish community living in Ireland, and a large number have been charged with drunk driving, and no road tax or insurance. The tide of immigration prompted supermarkets to introduce ranges of Polish products as they sought to tap into the substantial spending power of the new arrivals. Polish newspapers and radio stations sprang up. Libraries started stocking Polish books. |
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19 Dec 08 - 11:03 AM (#2519846) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Dave the Gnome Shame realy - I was enjoying the new Polki Sklep round the corner from us and it gave my Dad someone to talk to in the 'old tongue':-) Well, at least it should stop the whinging gits who were complaining that they took all the jobs. Maybe all these complainers will now get of their arses and start to do the jobs that no-one but the Poles would take... Cheers DeG |
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19 Dec 08 - 11:09 AM (#2519855) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Paul Burke ..a large number have been charged with drunk driving, and no road tax or insurance. They really got into the local culture, didn't they? |
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19 Dec 08 - 11:52 AM (#2519898) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Paco Rabanne I hope my nice Polish NHS dentist doesn't go home! |
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19 Dec 08 - 12:01 PM (#2519903) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Will Fly Yes, there was a similar sort of influx of Poles into Britain around 1939-1940 - you know, caused by the German invasion of Poland. Perhaps on a slightly smaller scale, but an influx all the same. Because of the political state of post-war Poland, with Uncle Joe in charge, many of them stayed and contributed even more to Britain after fighting with us. My father-in-law was one of them, and a fine man he was. And so were his friends in the local Polish community in Lancashire. Good luck to today's Polish people - wherever they may go! |
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19 Dec 08 - 12:15 PM (#2519919) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger Mexicans are leaving America too. If there is a silver lining to be found in the disaster of this financial melt-down, this has to be it. |
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19 Dec 08 - 02:13 PM (#2520029) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Richard Bridge That is not nicely put! |
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19 Dec 08 - 02:28 PM (#2520039) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: PoppaGator Is it Poland's turn to have an economic resurgence, a la "Celtic Tiger" Ireland? |
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19 Dec 08 - 07:03 PM (#2520208) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow That is not nicely put! That isn't exactly surprising. |
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19 Dec 08 - 07:07 PM (#2520212) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: GUEST,lox "There has been a number of murders within the Polish community living in Ireland, and a large number have been charged with drunk driving, and no road tax or insurance." Of course ... "they" bring their crime with "them" ... _____________________________ "That isn't exactly surprising." That is nicely put. |
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19 Dec 08 - 07:53 PM (#2520256) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger "'Of course ... "they" bring their crime with "them" ...'" That isn't exactly surprising. |
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19 Dec 08 - 08:38 PM (#2520284) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Jack Campin Is there somewhere Comrac and Ringinslinger can be incentivized to go back to? Preferably the underside of some flat rock that can't access Mudcat? |
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19 Dec 08 - 09:35 PM (#2520306) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Bee-dubya-ell Mexicans are leaving America too. Really? Where are they going? Europe? Asia? If they're returning to Mexico they aren't leaving America, they're only leaving the US. Anyway, regardless of where they're going, a good number of them will be back next time a hurricane knocks the shingles from the roofs of a few hundred thousand houses. You see, a lot of white people have two major personality issues when it comes to home repairs: 1) They're too lazy or stupid to do it themselves. 2) They're too cheap to pay what other white people want to charge to do the job when a crew of Mexicans will do it for half as much. |
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19 Dec 08 - 10:10 PM (#2520325) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Richard Bridge Hmm, is that racial prejudice against whites? |
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19 Dec 08 - 10:32 PM (#2520333) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger Seems like it to me! |
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20 Dec 08 - 07:16 AM (#2520509) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: GUEST,beachcomber What kind of RACIST Sh--e is allowed on this forum, nowadays ? Is it becoming one of those sites ? |
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20 Dec 08 - 07:14 PM (#2520981) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Rapparee I thought they were talking about nationalities. I didn't know Poles and Mexicans weren't part of the human race. |
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20 Dec 08 - 07:20 PM (#2520988) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Chris Green It's nice to see small-minded, bigoted pricks aren't just confined to the UK! |
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20 Dec 08 - 09:13 PM (#2521029) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger And, of course, there are really small minded pricks who can't seem to grasp the reality that Poles and Brits are mostly Europeans, so any friction between them certainly couldn't be racial. |
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20 Dec 08 - 10:14 PM (#2521049) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: bobad The appropriate term, in this case, is bigotry. |
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20 Dec 08 - 11:03 PM (#2521073) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger Probably the proper term is "concern for the survival of the planet." |
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21 Dec 08 - 01:30 AM (#2521107) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Ebbie Good god, Rig. What on earth makes a person feel -and espouse - the notion that one group is more entitled to survival than another? |
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21 Dec 08 - 08:26 AM (#2521283) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger I'm not aware of anyone doing that! |
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21 Dec 08 - 09:09 AM (#2521308) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Comrac (troll alert contact max) Listen twist and turn this whatever way you wish, there is nothing bigoted about it. Christ you can't open your mouth these days someone is ready to pounce on you with this race shit card. Look I live in Ireland, I speak as I see it. I have no problems with individuals from Poland or anywhere in Europe coming in here. What I do have problems with is, If the government want an open door policy, fine. Please build extra schools and hospitals to cope with the numbers. Befor they came over we heard we needed more primary school places and more hospitals, so that problem didn't go away. And it would help if those wishing to live here took a crash course in English before taking up residence. A lot simply don't have a word of English. And yes a lot of Polish are appearing in the local papers every week for minor crimes. There seems to be problems within their own community. They fight a lot, sadly a lot seem to carry knives and hammers. They are certain to get stopped by the police and asked to blow into the bag, the numbers caught drunk driving is serious. They do like their Vodka ! Cut this racist shit out, I speak as I see it. |
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21 Dec 08 - 09:41 AM (#2521320) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Ruth Archer "You see, a lot of white people have two major personality issues when it comes to home repairs: 1) They're too lazy or stupid to do it themselves." *Puts hand up* The Polish guy who does my handyman chores has just left my house. I ordered a new bed for Christmas guests, and it would have taken me the better part of a day and untold stress to put it together myself. It took him half an hour. He did some other stuff for me while I got on with making the Christmas pudding. I hope Tomasz doesn't go back to Poland. he has a young family and his eldest starts school next year, so he's in two minds about whether they should start at an English school. The Polish community around here is still quite strong, but I think it has been for some time - that post-war influx found a home in this part of the country, and in fact there are some well-known Polish war graves up the road in Newark. Anyway, I am glad they came. I can get decent rye bread at Sainsbury's now. |
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21 Dec 08 - 10:05 AM (#2521338) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: number 6 I want to move to Mexico ... it's warmer there .... and the people are also friendly. biLL |
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21 Dec 08 - 10:12 AM (#2521342) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Joe Offer They do like their Vodka ! Gee, that's what they said about the Irish in America, and so many other places. Interesting how the tables turn, isn't it? Comrac, I'm sure there are social problems caused wherever there is immigration. But immigration is one of the results of economic downturns, and immigrants deserve sympathy and assistance from those in a better economic situation. If you call yourself Irish, you're from a race that plagued the rest of the world with immigrants in the not-so-distant past. Those Irish immigrants turned out to be a blessing in many places. Maybe you should try some Polish food before all the Poles go home. -Joe Offer, of Irish ancestry and married to a Pole- |
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21 Dec 08 - 11:18 AM (#2521388) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Comrac (troll alert contact max) As I said Joe if you had read my post, I am not knocking them. I think the government should have proved the structures to deal with the numbers arriving in. Yes the Irish planted themselves in a lot of pockets around the table. I didn't. I worked, put myself through college and paid my way, never received a hand out in my life. Sonot in a position to speak about that point. I am an non smoking, tea total Irishman who remained in the land of his birth. |
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21 Dec 08 - 06:45 PM (#2521770) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow MIf they're returning to Mexico they aren't leaving America, they're only leaving the US. And it is arguable that a Mexican crossing the border with the United States is not actually leaving Mexico anymore than an Irishman or Irishwoman crossing the UK border is leaving Ireland. |
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21 Dec 08 - 07:21 PM (#2521791) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Lox No Comrac - you aren't knocking them ... ... you're just saying that "They fight a lot, sadly a lot seem to carry knives and hammers. They are certain to get stopped by the police and asked to blow into the bag, the numbers caught drunk driving is serious. They do like their Vodka !" No generalizations there, just you saying it as you see it. |
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21 Dec 08 - 08:40 PM (#2521850) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger And I'd watch out for a guy carrying a hammer! |
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21 Dec 08 - 08:44 PM (#2521854) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow Best thing to do when you want some work done that needs a man with a hammer. |
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21 Dec 08 - 09:37 PM (#2521892) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger Of course, one would have to know something about hammers! |
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22 Dec 08 - 01:50 AM (#2521944) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Folk Form # 1 For Britain, at least, the return of Poles back to Poland is a good thing because this will help slow down the rate of unemployment that always comes with a recession. Also, they will free up jobs that we didnt want originally,but do now- or rather, jobs that we did want, but couldn't get, because we had been squezzed out by the low wages that attracted immigrants but would not sustain a British person. The rate of immigration was far too high to be sustainable and we didn't have enough housing for them, which, in turn, pushed up rents for immigrants and indeginious people alike. Wages were pushed down and rents pushed up. As always, it is the, mostly, unskilled working class that suffers. |
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22 Dec 08 - 02:25 AM (#2521950) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Comrac (troll alert contact max) So Lox, Please enlighten us all. What do you know about the Polish community living in Ireland ? Do you not believe me ? the two Polish guys that live two doors away from me were the first to agree with me when we spoke about this. They gave me a great insight to their culture last night. I never realised there was so much tension among them. So come on Fill us all in. |
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22 Dec 08 - 04:35 AM (#2522005) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Lizzie Cornish 1 My daughter's Polish friend, is off to Portugal soon, with her English boyfriend, to open a cafe and start a new life in a country where they can afford rent and food, without having to worry about it, as they do here. She works extremely hard. She came over a few years back with her Polish boyfriend, but was abandoned by him. He spoke fluent English, she spoke not a word. She was left here penniless and scared, but she taught herself the language, held down two jobs, worked every hour she possibly could, sending most of her money home to her family. There are many, many Poles and Eastern Europeans in Sidmouth, where they keep the hotels going for those who visit the town. They all work damn hard for very little money, and in my opinion, they're exploited by the rich and greedy hotel owners, who use them as 'cheap labour', don't look after them at all well and even rent them rooms, at vast amounts, in the houses they own around town, where they so often like to keep their workers, ensuring they get their money back from them in rent. If it wasn't for the Polish dentists who came over a few years back, then many people in Cornwall would have no dental care at all. Here in Sidmouth, the trouble is caused by the English, not the Polish. If they all return to Poland, then I'll miss them. |
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22 Dec 08 - 04:41 AM (#2522011) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Folk Form # 1 So why are British people not being trained as dentists? Yes, a lot of people are exploiting Poles for their cheap labour, but by doing so, they also squeeze out British labour. |
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22 Dec 08 - 04:47 AM (#2522019) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Megan L The season of good will to all? Aye except if they don't come from your wee cleek. Of course local people never get drunk or cause any trouble except when they go to the folk club of course but thats tradition aint it. A person is a person not a country. |
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22 Dec 08 - 12:00 PM (#2522198) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger We don't want no people what won't get drunk! |
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22 Dec 08 - 02:07 PM (#2522313) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow If they are able to go home, good luck to them, and if they stay they good luck to them too. I just wish that Polish good manners could rub off on some of the young natives, and I hope it doesn't happen the other way round. |
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22 Dec 08 - 02:21 PM (#2522325) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: ard mhacha Hello Comrac or should I say Walter Mitty, you have now entered the Guinness book of records for alias's, have you collected any more nazi uniforms?, we all know this idiot from he first posted,his finger prints are on every post. |
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22 Dec 08 - 04:47 PM (#2522455) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Comrac (troll alert contact max) As I said, as a tax payer all my life (unlike some) I feel the government should have improved the infrastructure to cope with the numbers arriving into the country. Schools, hospitals and councils have all expressed concerns. It is nothing to do with race. No one expected the numbers that arrived. I suppose one thing people like myself who always worked for a living instead of scrounging of the state (like some) admire about these guys is they pay their way. I admire their attitude to hard work. There probably wouldn't be the requirement for their labour if the government over here would chase half the bloody loafers off benefits and make them do something to earn their hand-outs ! There are too many in the North of Ireland that don't want the crown, but they want the half crown ! |
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23 Dec 08 - 03:38 AM (#2522744) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Folk Form # 1 I must say, I do feel sorry for the Poles. Slagged off by some. Patronised by others. You all know who you are. |
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23 Dec 08 - 07:59 AM (#2522879) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger "I feel the government should have improved the infrastructure to cope with the numbers arriving into the country." I would think it would make more sense for the government to try to do something to curb human population growth, so we all don't have to live like sardines. |
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23 Dec 08 - 08:32 AM (#2522892) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: bubblyrat Why is it that every time somebody,ANYBODY, in Great Britain,or ,especially,England, says ANYTHING, or expresses ANY concern about the OVERWHELMING and TOTALLY UNSUSTAINABLE numbers of uncontrolled immigrants to an ALREADY OVERPOPULATED small island, they are immediately branded a RACIST or a NAZI ??? Why ??Why ?? Why ?? I have nothing against Poles "per se".....my first girlfriend was a Burzinski, my first "proper" partner a Ziolkowski,and I really fancied a Bozena Radomski (despite her Glasgow accent ! )---in fact, many Poles,displaced by WW2, were housed in special camps in and around the Henley--Reading area, and the Polish Catholic College of The Sacred Heart, staffed by the Polish Marian Fathers,only very recently closed its doors at Fawley Court,near Henley-on-Thames where I was born and live today.BUT----I am talking about the 1950s and early to mid 1960s here, when A) the recent anti-German alliance between Britain and Poland was much more in the public collective mind and B)..there was far less overcrowding and congestion than there is today !!Thus were we ready,willing,and able to assimilate large numbers of refugees from the European theatre of the war.(including many GERMANS, which I think speaks volumes about the KINDNESS and TOLERANCE of the British people.) Fast forward to today, however, and you have a DIFFERENT STORY altogether.Poland itself was lost to us for many years,and a whole generation grew up here in Britain knowing Poland as a COMMUNIST BLOC country, ---a part of the SOVIET EMPIRE, for God's sake !! COMMIES !! Now, because of recent political events, Poland is A) restored to its status as a non-communist country, and B) is suddenly part of the European Economic Union !! SO.....times are hard over there,after years of COMMUNIST maladministration,and there are no restrictions on cross-border travel in the EU, so, what do the Poles do ?? What anyone else would do, of course !! They come to SOFT,SENTIMENTAL,TOLERANT,FRIENDLY but, sadly, OVERCROWDED Britain----where, sadly,their prescence is not so welcome. It's a mixture of ECONOMICS and DEMOGRAPHICS, quite simply. So, some of you out there, PLEASE vent your Anti-Racist spleen elsewhere, and GET REAL ( Or come and live here in OVERCROWDEDSVILLE UK !!). Shalom !! Roger |
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23 Dec 08 - 09:30 AM (#2522924) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: GUEST,John from Kemsing Bubblyrat, Factually and reasonably expressed. You could be my Home Secretary for England, Wales , Northern Ireland and Scotland any day of the week. It`s about time someone on our behalf began to address Brussels with these terms. |
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23 Dec 08 - 11:54 AM (#2523047) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: astro You know, it is amazing to me that there are always unsubstantiated claims that the immigrant communities bring nothing to our country. This does not even get close to the true facts. There is great initiative and culture that is mixed within ours that enriches us and brings economic growth (read Post America by Zacaria). My only suggestion to those who disparage our neighbors is that they most likely enjoy paying them minimum wage or below while complaining about them....My suspicion is that growth in all countries can also be attributed to motivated people including ones who have just arrived. Astro...in Los Angeles...where the communities are mixed and we enjoy a multi-cultural life, much richer than some who seem to like to express themselves as if they have one too... |
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23 Dec 08 - 02:16 PM (#2523160) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow Poles come to Britain for the same reason the Irish came here - there are jobs here that they can do. If the jobs aren't there, or the locals can do them as well they won't come here or stay here. If things are better back home they'll go home or stay home. And, like the irish before them, they greatly improve the place. |
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24 Dec 08 - 12:02 AM (#2523532) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger The Poles came to Britain for the same reasons the Irish came--and the Mexicans come to America for the same reasons the Poles and the Irish came to Britain. |
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24 Dec 08 - 04:17 AM (#2523608) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Paul Burke Where were the Mexicans before they came to America? |
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24 Dec 08 - 06:54 AM (#2523689) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Keith A of Hertford I remember a very cross Pole on the Today programme (BBC flagship current affairs prog) complaining bitterly that the Poles and other eastern Europeans were being cast as immigration scape goats. His point was that, even at its peak, Eastern European immigration never approached in numbers the steady inflow from Africa and the Indian subcontinent. Mainstream centre left media was suddenly able to run stories about the impact of immigration because they could talk about white immigrants. The overwhelming source of immigrants to the UK was, and is, Africa and the subcontinent. |
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24 Dec 08 - 07:02 AM (#2523694) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Dave the Gnome I must say, I do feel sorry for the Poles. Slagged off by some. Patronised by others. I am not sure if that is patronising, ironic or just plain stupid... PLEASE vent your Anti-Racist spleen elsewhere, and GET REAL ( Or come and live here in OVERCROWDEDSVILLE UK !!). So venting racist spleen is quite acceptable to you then bubblyrat? But we already knew that didn't we... and btw - Poles are the same now as they were 50 years ago. They are all still, believe it or not, all people, just like us, and entitled to live in reasonable peace and prosperity. DeG (aka David Polakow) |
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24 Dec 08 - 07:37 AM (#2523715) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Folk Form # 1 I was being neither patronising, ironic or just plain stupid. I was making an observation.Yes, we know they are people just like us. No-one said they weren't. |
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24 Dec 08 - 09:17 AM (#2523784) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger "Where were the Mexicans before they came to America?" In Mexico! |
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24 Dec 08 - 11:17 AM (#2523882) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Dave the Gnome I realise that you were probably not being intentionaly patronising PE but it is somewhat of an ironic statement - Saying that you feel sorry for people because they are being patronised is, to me, one of the great oxymorons of our language:-) Apologies if my rebuff came over as offensive to you but just substitute the word 'Poles' with 'disabled' and I think you will see what I mean. Cheers DeG |
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24 Dec 08 - 01:56 PM (#2523989) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow "In Mexico!" Along with Texas, California, Nevada, Utah, and much of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, and Wyoming... |
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24 Dec 08 - 02:13 PM (#2524008) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger The people who were legalling residing in the states you mention, McGrath, were Americans. But what you seem to be describing is Aztlan, not Mexico. |
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24 Dec 08 - 02:28 PM (#2524017) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Goose Gander Aztlan is a myth, with as much veracity as pan-Celticism. |
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25 Dec 08 - 12:53 PM (#2524457) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: GUEST,beachcomber Well said bubblyrat, I couldn't have put it better myself. |
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26 Dec 08 - 08:30 AM (#2524884) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger Yes, and what bubblyrat is saying for the UK is going on in other parts of the world as well. Places that are not islands, and still have some open space left, are seeing that "space" become rapidly swamped with people. There is nothing of a racist nature in being concerned about that. |
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26 Dec 08 - 11:26 AM (#2524939) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Dave the Gnome I Hate Wogs -Eric Bogle I'm a dicky-dye Australian guy and me name is Blooey Schmidt. I love this sunburned country and I'm bloody proud of it And I love our simple way of life and the things we all hold dear Like V.F.L. and Big Ben Pies and foamin' Tueeze beer I love our open friendliness where a man can make good mates In fact in all Australia there's just one thing I hate: I hate Wogs, they live like dogs Some eat bananas and some eat frogs Soome wear turbans some wear clogs All the bloody same to me 'cause I hate Wogs. They can't speak proper English and they never seem to learn And the awful guff that they call food would make your stomach turn It's always dipped in garlic sauce or fried in olive oil I've never tasted any meself, but I bet it all tastes vile! What's wrong with good Australian food, you Slovaks and you Poles? Good healthy stuff like pie and sauce and chips and chigger rolls 'Cause I hate Wogs, they live like dogs Some eat bananas and some eat frogs Soome wear turbans some wear clogs All the bloody same to me 'cause I hate Wogs. And the local chip shop down the street is run by a bloody Greek He's open sixteen hours a day and seven days a week And every cent that you spend there on a pie or on dumsim Helps to send back home to Greece for a bastard just like him! Oh, I never eat there meself 'cause I couldn't touch Wog meat I usually eat at the Chinese caf' that's just across the street! 'Cause I hate Wogs, they live like dogs Some eat bananas and some eat frogs Soome wear turbans some wear clogs All the bloody same to me 'cause I hate Wogs. I was queueing down at the Registry, a-pickin' up me dole In front of me was a Yugoslav, in front of him a Pole Behind me was a Eyetalian, behind him was a Turk Those lazy migrant bastards do, they never bloody work! But in spite of what the papers say, there's work for those who want to The wife and twenty-seven kids is all the work I'm going to! 'Cause I hate Wogs, they live like dogs Some eat bananas and some eat frogs Soome wear turbans some wear clogs All the bloody same to me 'cause I hate Wogs. So send the bastards home to Spain, and Italy and Greece And maybe when they've all gone home, we'll get some bloody peace To sit in the shade of the killabar tree and drink beer all day long And run amok with a flat-bed truck, down by the billabong And every night at twelve o'clock to show that we're not slaggards We'll stand and sing our national song, "Advance Australia", backwards! |
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26 Dec 08 - 12:22 PM (#2524974) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: pdq Mexico was mentioned a while ago in this discussion. The native people of Mexico have been abused by each other, by tribes that now are within the US, by the Spanish Conquistadors, and now by the corrupt Mexican government. Many speak no Spanish, just their native languages. Here is a list (note: some tribes are found on both sides of the US/Mexico border): Amuzgo Aztecs (Mexicas) Chatino Chichi-Pooloca Chichimeco Jonaz Chinanteco Chol Chontal (de Tabasco) Chuj Cochimi Cora Cucapa Cuicateca Guarijio Huasteco Huave Huichol Ixcateco Jacalteco Kikapu (Mexican Kickapoo of northern Coahuila state) Kiliwa Kumiai Lacandon Lipan Apache (north of Chihuahua) Mame Matlatzinca Mayans Mayo Mazahua Mixe Mixteca Motozintleco Nahua Olmec Opata (Northwestern Sonora) Otomi Paipai (akwa'ala) Pame Papago Pima (Alto/Bajo) Popoloca Popoluca Purepecha (Tarasco) Seri Tarahumara Tepehua Tepehuano Tequistlateco (Chontal de Oaxaca) Tlapaneco Tojolabal Tolteca Totonaco Trique Tzeltal Tzotzil Yaqui Zapoteco Zoque |
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26 Dec 08 - 12:32 PM (#2524981) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger And your point, pdq, is what? |
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26 Dec 08 - 01:08 PM (#2525000) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow Maybe people who are worried about there being too many people should consider starting with themselves. |
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26 Dec 08 - 01:48 PM (#2525035) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger People who are worried about the survival of the planet--at least as we know it--should start worrying about there being too many people. |
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26 Dec 08 - 03:01 PM (#2525085) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: McGrath of Harlow But in any case what's this got to do with whether people are living in Poland or England? So far as the planet goes it doesn't make any difference. |
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26 Dec 08 - 04:13 PM (#2525127) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: Riginslinger I really can't speak for Poland specifically, but if someone is leaving one country for another, it shouldn't be an issue. And it wouldn't be if that person were not simply making room for another. The industrial countries had solved the problem of expanding populations, and some were on the decline. Things were looking up until the mass migration began. More troubling to folks who made personal sacrafices to recognize the problem and to take it upon themselves to do something about it, all their efforts have gone out the window, along with their heritage in many cases. |
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26 Dec 08 - 10:59 PM (#2525316) Subject: RE: BS: Tide turns as Poles end great migration From: GUEST,jOhn A bloke in the pub told me that polish people eat donkeys, he reckons that some of them went to a donkey farm down south somewere and ate all the donkeys, and the woman waht owned it was really upset wehn she found out, and she was crying for ages, i think she had no frends, just a few donkeys, and then them poles went and ate them, that must be upsetting i suppose. |