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29 Mar 97 - 03:10 AM (#3636) Subject: Lyrics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Barry Finn A friend is trying to find the words to Coulter's Candy, it's either Scottish or Irish & he thinks the Clancy's and/or Makem may have done it way back. Thank you in advanced. |
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29 Mar 97 - 09:24 AM (#3638) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Allan.... My Grandmother used to sing this to me ! Ally bally, ally bally bee, Sitting on my grannies knee, begging for a wee baw'bee, tae by some Coulter's candy. A baw'bee was a halfpenny, and the song is Scottish. I don't know the rest of the lyrics, but if anybody knows them,I would be grateful. |
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29 Mar 97 - 03:09 PM (#3650) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: dick greenhaus Surprise! It's in the database. Look for Coulter* or candy |
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04 Feb 99 - 08:09 PM (#57280) Subject: Tune Add: COULTER'S CANDY From: alison hi, I always knew this as "Ally bally bee"......mum and dad used to sing it to us as kids.
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13 Oct 99 - 09:36 PM (#123642) Subject: Lyr Add: COULTER'S CANDY (plainer English version) From: BK I got a message requesting the plainer language version of "Coulter's Candy" I'd mentioned in a past thread. Then was told about putting line break commands... Sooooo, I stuck line breaks (I think that's what they are called; know NOTHING about HTML) on the ends of the lines & spaces of the words on my hard drive WP file, copied the whole schmear to the clipboard, & I'll paste them here. Hope it works... Cheers, BK (hope it doesn't have a million little "br's" in it. I think it came from an album by the "Kerries?"
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21 Jan 01 - 03:31 PM (#379103) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,john.moira@btinternet.com Whilst researching the attributes of Candy freezers i was amazed to discover your website and the words to COULTERS CANDY, a song which has been sung by three generations of our family.I was most interested to discover the full version,having previously only ever heard the first verse. John Airdrie,SCOTLAND |
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21 Jan 01 - 03:49 PM (#379111) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: Metchosin John, if you type Coulter's in the digitrad lyrics search box on the fourm page you will come up with two versions with all the lyrics. We were taught this song by my Grandmother, but perhaps she came to Canada before the Coulter's version came into being, because there is no reference to the brand name in her song. In place of "Coulter's candy" we just sing "sugar candy". Also, she sang Owa Dowa, Owa Dowa Dee in place of Ally Bally Bee. |
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21 Jan 01 - 06:12 PM (#379218) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: Susanne (skw) Try this link as well: Coulter's Candy |
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21 Jan 01 - 06:34 PM (#379224) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: Susanne (skw) Sorry, it takes you to yet another set of words. For the notes, click on 'English notes' at the top of the page. |
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21 Jan 01 - 09:56 PM (#379324) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: Sorcha I guess in this UK?Scots? whatever, it is sugar candy, but I know what Coulter's Candy is in the US, and I'll bet Bill in Alabama does too-------buffalo (bison) guts. Gross! There was this mountain man contest, where they pulled the guts out, and 2 men started swallowing, each at one end. The contest involved swallowing and pulling out what the other guy swallowed......first one to swallow it all won.........yuck, yuck. |
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21 Jan 01 - 11:51 PM (#379393) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca From what I gather, the Coulter's Candy comes from the "border" areas between Scotland and England. Coulter was the traveller who sold his candy out of his wagon directly to the kids. I learned the song from Patrick Crilly, an oil engineer who was in Halifax for about 10 months a few years ago. It's an excellent song, with many many verses. |
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21 Jan 02 - 07:41 PM (#632591) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,Patrick Crilly Hi George...I'm still singing regards to all who know me Patrick |
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22 Jan 02 - 12:55 AM (#632748) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,Boab I have always [ I could be wrong!] introduced this as a Dumfries street-song. I sing a "Canadianised" version for the kids over here. The "bawbee" becomes a penny, the "thrifty" becomes a piggy-bank etc.. |
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22 Jan 02 - 04:53 AM (#632813) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,swirlygirl Oh my mum used to sing this to me all the time when I was wee!! :) xxx |
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22 Jan 02 - 06:46 AM (#632848) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Ewan McVicar sang this song at my school when he visited and had a detailed story about Mr. Coulter who was a historic figure. So there's a Scots version of the song with a bit of historical backing! I don't have the details here but can look for them if needed. A Google search on "Coulter's Candy" gets about 227 hits! |
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22 Jan 02 - 10:10 AM (#632968) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Robert Coultart sold candy in the streets of Galashields and all the Border towns. He made it on his fire - I've stood in the room. He died in 1880, of a benign tumour, which seems to explain his eccentric character. The candy was hard and flavoured with aniseed. I've identified some ten verses in all, some made by him, some added by singers along the way. My guess is that the song was originally Sugar Candy till Coultard turned it into an early advertising jingle. The tune has all kinds of interesting relatives. I wrote a whole chapter about this song and the others it links to [one is Johnnie Todd] in a book that I'm still pressing upon reluctant publishers. Hi Animaterra! |
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22 Jan 02 - 10:50 PM (#633499) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,Boab Aye, Ewan---I've noted that Johnny Todd and Coulter's Candy melodies are very close. |
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17 Dec 03 - 06:34 AM (#1074369) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Fiona We had slightly different verses to the ones in the threads above. The burroo is the dole. Poor wee soul, you're looking awfay thin, A skittle o' bones covered ower wi' skin, But soon you'll be gettin' a wee double chin Wi' eatin' Coulters candy Livin's awfay hard the noo, Faithers signin' oan the buroo, But Mammys saved a penny for you, Tae buy some Coulters candy |
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17 Dec 03 - 12:51 PM (#1074622) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Jim McLean It's a 'rickle' o' bones. |
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17 Dec 03 - 05:43 PM (#1074816) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Barb'ry I sing the version from the North East of England - pretty similar really. Apparently there are versions of it sung all along the north east coast of Britain. |
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17 Dec 03 - 06:52 PM (#1074882) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: alison my gran used to sing it to me in Ireland too slainte alison |
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17 Dec 03 - 07:46 PM (#1074925) Subject: RE: Lurics; Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Anne Croucher Another verse Come my boy my fine wee man Run down the road, fast as you can Pay the money to the sweetie man For a bag of Coulter's Candy I first hear the song with just three verses in The Railway, Fratton Southsea Hants back in the early 70s. It was the mammy's knee, wee Jeannie (rickle of bone) and Little Annie's greetin too verses. I have the name Robert Coltart written by it but what the connection is I do not know. Anne |
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18 Dec 03 - 01:47 AM (#1075091) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Metchosin My old Granny from Scotland (came to Canada late 1800's, early 1900's) used to sing this for us too, but she never sang "Coulter's" candy, just sugar candy. Her version: Owa Dowa, Owa Dowa Dee Sitting on her mamies knee Greetin' fur a bonnie bawbee Tae buy a sugar candy |
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18 Dec 03 - 03:48 AM (#1075136) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar On an older thread I gave details of Robert Coultart of Galashiels, his one room sweetie factory cum kitchen, and his 1870s advertising jingle, which I think was based on the older Sugar Candy rhyme. |
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18 Dec 03 - 08:47 AM (#1075313) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: vectis Puckle (bag) of bones. Ma, hand me my thrifty doon Here's old Coulter coming to toon Wi' his basket on his croon Selling Coulter's candy |
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18 Dec 03 - 02:14 PM (#1075563) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Murray MacLeod Does anybody have the words to Ronnie Browne's parody of the song ? I can only remember the first verse in it's entirety.... Ally Bally ally bally bee Scotland is the place for me Even though it's awfy wee I think it's fine and dandy One of the other verses goes something like Land of something something something Land o' soup(?) and tasty stews Wi' men dressed up in tartan trews To stop their legs going bandy |
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18 Dec 03 - 04:46 PM (#1075650) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Susanne (skw) Murray, where's the parody in that? It just seems to be a different set of silly lyrics. I've tried to collect verses and info on Coulter's Candy in My Songbook |
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18 Dec 03 - 05:07 PM (#1075664) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Murray MacLeod I suppose you are right Susanne, it's not really a parody, but it is faintly risible nonetheless, being a gentle poke at "Scottishness". Did the Corries ever record it? You of all people should know ... |
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18 Dec 03 - 07:52 PM (#1075780) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Jim McLean Vectis, there's no such word as 'puckle' meaning a bag. The phrase 'a rickle o' banes' is common. |
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18 Dec 03 - 09:16 PM (#1075838) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Murray MacLeod PUCKLE A word denoting approximate measurement, puckle can mean any imprecise amount. A homespun recipe for fruit cake might include "a puckle raisins." When you need to guess a quantity, this is a handy word to use! From the Scots Magazine ... |
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19 Dec 03 - 04:41 AM (#1075972) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Jim McLean Precisely, Murray, or should I say imprecisely? The Concise Scots Dictionary gives one definition similar to your quote. It nearly always meant 'a small particle, or grain of salt, grain etc.' and is cognate with 'pickle'. The use of 'Puckle' it says, is now usually confined to The Shetlands. Jim |
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19 Dec 03 - 02:43 PM (#1076342) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST irish rovers recorded it i believe on thier "first of the irish rovers album |
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19 Dec 03 - 07:45 PM (#1076526) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Susanne (skw) Murray, I haven't got any recording of 'CC' with any words from the Corries, but then, I've only got half a dozen of their albums ... If you're really interested I'll ask Ronnie's son and merchandise manager, Gavin. |
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21 Oct 04 - 11:54 PM (#1303516) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Jean Davidson A lady told me once that she had been taught to measure a puckle of something by holding it in her closed hand. A puckle was the amount you could hold without it falling out. She was of Scottish descent.(My maiden name was Puckle) |
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22 Oct 04 - 05:15 AM (#1303674) Subject: RE: Lyrics: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Tam the Bam (Nutter) Robin Hall and Jimmie McGregor recoreded it on an album (name from the past) called Scottish Choice. I sing rickle, but who really care Rickle/puckle it's only a word. |
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15 Nov 05 - 05:48 PM (#1605862) Subject: RE: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy From: GUEST,Christine I have a memoir from my great grandmother where she gives a description of the man who sang this song at the railway station as she travelled to Galashields. She described him thus: "At the railway station a man called Coulter met the trains. He was a peculiar man, wore a number of waistcoats and sold candy and sang this song as he walked along the platform: ally bally, ally bally bee...etc she then gives three verses of the song... Christine Lynch, Nova Scotia, Canada |
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19 Mar 06 - 05:48 PM (#1698110) Subject: Chord Req: coulter's candy From: GUEST ive searched in here but didnt see any chords/tabs of this song...ive heard many different versions so i would love to see different ways to play this great song... thanks |
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19 Mar 06 - 11:49 PM (#1698288) Subject: RE: Chord Req: coulter's candy From: michaelr jeez, there's only 3 chords to it... do a little bit of work yourself! |
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05 Sep 08 - 06:38 PM (#2432254) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Brian Farley, Glasgow If you search WIKIPEDIA, using "Coulters Candy" without the aposterphe, you'll get the history. Scottish candymaker/seller Robert Coultart, the "Coulter" of the song, [1890s] wrote it. |
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05 Sep 08 - 10:11 PM (#2432338) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Malcolm Douglas Yes. That information was provided by Ewan McVicar six years ago, in another discussion here on the subject (see links above: MUS ADD: Coulter's candy). Thanks for mentioning it. |
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23 Jul 09 - 02:40 AM (#2685757) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Joe Offer Not much in the Traditional Ballad Index on this song, but I think it's worth posting: Coulter's CandyDESCRIPTION: "Ally, bally, ally bally bee, Sittin' on yer mammy's knee, Greetin' for anither bawbee, Tae buy mair Coulter's candy." The parents feed the slender boy on candy, say he will grow up to go to sea, or will later buy candy for themAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: 1948 (Montgomerie) KEYWORDS: mother father food FOUND IN: Britain(Scotland) REFERENCES (3 citations): Montgomerie-ScottishNR 154, "Colter's Candy" (1 short text) DT, COULTR COULTR2 ADDITIONAL: _Sing Out_ magazine, Volume 32, #4 (1987), pp, 84, "Coulter's Candy" (1 text, 1 tune, supplied by Sam Hinton and with some unusual verses) NOTES [121 words]: Murray Shoolbraid's notes in the Digital Tradition cite Buchan to the effect that "Coulter" was in fact a Scottish candy-seller named Robert Coltart who was active around 1900. Ewan McVicar reported on the Ballad-L mailing list that "Coulter's Candy was made and sold by Robert Coltart, a weaver in Galashiels. He stamped his name on every piece and flavoured it with aniseed. He sold it all round the Borders fairs, attracting customers by playing his tune on his penny?whistle and singing out?his song. An early advertising jingle. He died in 1880?aged 48." This is the most substantial description I've seen of who Coulter/Colter was -- but I've heard performers cite other sources. So I suppose it's not quite proved. - RBW Last updated in version 3.3 File: MSNR154 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2018 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. Take note of these instances of the song that are listed in Roud #19019. There's much more at Susanne's mysongbook.de |
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23 Jul 09 - 04:02 AM (#2685777) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Jim McLean Joe 'the slender boy' is usually called Jean in all the versions I've heard. |
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23 Jul 09 - 06:48 AM (#2685845) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: BobKnight Academics are full of shit. "Puckle" is NOT confined to the Shetlands - it's still in common use in the Abedeenshire area, and no doubt further afield too. |
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23 Jul 09 - 09:17 AM (#2685945) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Big Tim Ewan MacVicar devotes 9 pages to this song in his book 'Doh Ray Me, When Ah Wis Wee: Scots children's song and rhymes' (Birlinn, 2007). Here comes Coulter doon the street, A big lum hat upon his heid, He's been roon aboot aa the toon, Singin and sellin candy. ! PS I wonder if Coulter was of the same family as David Coulthard, the F1 driver: similar name, Borders area? |
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07 May 10 - 04:17 PM (#2902288) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST A thousand years ago - when I was a lad growing up in Newcastle, I heard a version with this as the chorus: Ally bally, ally bally bee Baby's high on LSD Looks like sugar but it's not for tea Selling Coulter's Candy There was a verse about selling it through the neighbourhood ice cream van that came around Does anyone know anything of this warped version and who sang it and what the rest of the lyrics are? |
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17 Jul 11 - 04:09 PM (#3189611) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Allan Conn "Puckle" is NOT confined to the Shetlands - it's still in common use in the Abedeenshire area, and no doubt further afield too A very common everyday word in the Scottish Borders too. Was over the border in Carlisle when I was a teenager and was buying a doner kebab. The guy asked me if I wanted chilli sauce. "a wee puckle please" I said. He looked at me in a puzzled way and replied "sorry we have no pickle just chilli sauce". I honestly had no idea at the time that the word wasn't common to England as well :-) |
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17 Jul 11 - 04:14 PM (#3189612) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: GUEST,Allan Conn "From what I gather, the Coulter's Candy comes from the "border" areas between Scotland and England" I know this an old post but I couldn't help giggling thinking of what the reaction would be should George go into a pub in Hawick or Jedburgh etc and tell the locals "no this is not Scotland - this is an area between Scotland and England" The border areas of England and Scotland is a safer term to use :-) |
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17 Jul 11 - 05:03 PM (#3189651) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Commander Crabbe He may be a distant relation of mine! We hail fae Fife and The Lothians Chris Coulter |
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29 Jan 19 - 08:05 AM (#3973960) Subject: RE: lyr/Origins: Coulter's Candy (Caulter's ?) From: Jack Campin Statue of Coulter planned |
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15 Oct 23 - 11:43 AM (#4183709) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST robert gorberg of galashiels of the borders rote this song for advertising this chocolate for a jingle there was no such thing as recording songs but when the song came more remembered was when in 1956 this jingle was sung by roddy macmilan ho recorded a lot of children's songs and bbc programs for children. in his recording he sings two verses that were written by him the first was written in 1852. my friend martin was not happy when ronny brown sed of the passing away of roy williamson in that year trip to the royal blind school ronny brown talked about the song and sung others. the advert jingle had ten verses but i do not no ho wrote all of them a pam 1 and 2 and 3. i do think brown might have written at least 3 other verses but not 1 2 or the third a lady who taut me the guitar at school many years ago was working for the old folks had sed that we did a song about her being 160 using the same tune with 6 verses in 1997 i learned the song on my guitar but could not get the right cords. martin my friend rote the first verse and more and made it in to a new song set to the same tune of the folk song worth other words written by one of her family. from joe |
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15 Oct 23 - 11:43 AM (#4186938) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST robert gorberg of galashiels of the borders rote this song for advertising this chocolate for a jingle there was no such thing as recording songs but when the song came more remembered was when in 1956 this jingle was sung by roddy macmilan ho recorded a lot of children's songs and bbc programs for children. in his recording he sings two verses that were written by him the first was written in 1852. my friend martin was not happy when ronny brown sed of the passing away of roy williamson in that year trip to the royal blind school ronny brown talked about the song and sung others. the advert jingle had ten verses but i do not no ho wrote all of them a pam 1 and 2 and 3. i do think brown might have written at least 3 other verses but not 1 2 or the third a lady who taut me the guitar at school many years ago was working for the old folks had sed that we did a song about her being 160 using the same tune with 6 verses in 1997 i learned the song on my guitar but could not get the right cords. martin my friend rote the first verse and more and made it in to a new song set to the same tune of the folk song worth other words written by one of her family. from joe |
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15 Oct 23 - 12:12 PM (#4186939) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST,Ally This song was the bane of my life as a kid, along with many other Allys I am sure! |
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15 Oct 23 - 12:12 PM (#4183712) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST,Ally This song was the bane of my life as a kid, along with many other Allys I am sure! |
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15 Oct 23 - 02:15 PM (#4183723) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST According to Wikipedia the song > It was written by a former Galashiels weaver, Robert Coltart (1832–1880) |
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15 Oct 23 - 02:15 PM (#4186940) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST According to Wikipedia the song > It was written by a former Galashiels weaver, Robert Coltart (1832–1880) |
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15 Oct 23 - 02:54 PM (#4186941) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST,allan Conn yes there is a statue of Coltart in the centre of Gala |
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15 Oct 23 - 02:54 PM (#4183735) Subject: RE: Origins: Coulter's Candy From: GUEST,allan Conn yes there is a statue of Coltart in the centre of Gala |