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28 Jun 99 - 10:23 PM (#90559) Subject: Lyr Req: On Down the Miss to the Gulf of Mexico From: buchananb@earthlink.net Can someone help me w/ the lyrics and poss. melody of verse for this song...the refrain is something like: "We fired our guns and they began a runnin' There wasn't nigh as many as there was awhile ago. We fired once more and they began a runnin' on down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico!" I think it's a Civil War ballad? I thought it was the Battle of New Orleans, but NOT... Thanks! |
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28 Jun 99 - 10:36 PM (#90564) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: catspaw49 I'm having trouble getting in at cowpie so somebody else can probably help. It is the Battle of N.O. It's not a ballad. It's the War of 1812, not the Civil War. catspaw |
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28 Jun 99 - 10:57 PM (#90568) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: buchananb Thanks, catspaw49. I'm so new to mudcats I hesitate to ask....Is the cowpie on this site, or is that another? I looked up the "battle of N.O." in this database before I posted, and the words didn't match at all? Thanks for the history notes...I had an idea I was wrong the minute I hit the send button..... |
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28 Jun 99 - 11:01 PM (#90570) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: Just put 'driftwood' in that box at the upper right of this page and click |
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28 Jun 99 - 11:25 PM (#90574) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: catspaw49 Well welcome aboard the Mudcat. We're mainly a folk and blues site, but we are a very diverse bunch and can generally find whatever. Cowpie is a good place for C&W songs and the version you're looking for is there. Here's a clickable link that I hope takes you to the roughstock.com website and the song you're looking for. If not, enter roughstock.com in your search engine. Come back anytime -- join up........This is a great place. catspaw |
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29 Jun 99 - 10:58 AM (#90706) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: dick greenhaus I'm baffled. I entered [down the missis*], in the DT search box, and the Battle of New Orleans (the one you're looking for) was the fourth hit that came up. |
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10 Sep 01 - 02:44 AM (#546019) Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS^^^ From: GUEST BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS Recorded by Johnny Horton Written by Jimmy Driftwood CAPO: 2nd Fret/KEY: A/PLAY: G 1. [G] In 1814 we [C] took a little trip A-[D7] long with Col. Jackson down the [G] mighty Mississip'. We took a little bacon and we [C] took a little beans And we [D7] caught the bloody British in a [G] town in New Orleans. CHORUS: We fired our guns and the British kept a-comin'. There wasn't nigh as many as there [D7] was a while a-[G] go. We fired once more and they began to runnin' On down the Mississippi to the [D7] Gulf of Mexi-[G] co. 2. We looked down the river and we see'd the British come, And there musta been a hund'erd of 'em beatin' on the drum . They stepped so high and they made their bugles ring. We stood beside our cotton bales and didn't say a thing. CHORUS 3. Old Hick'ry said we could take 'em by su'prise If we didn't fire our musket till we looked 'em in the eyes . We held our fire till we see'd their faces well , Then we opened up with squirrel guns and really gave 'em ... Well - REPEAT 1ST CHORUS 2ND CHORUS: Yeah! they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles And they ran through the bushes where a [D7] rabbit couldn't [G] go. They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch 'em On down the Mississippi to the [D7] Gulf of Mexi-[G] co. 4. We fired our cannon till the barrel melted down, So we grabbed an alligator and we fought another round. We filled his head with cannonballs and powdered his behind And when we touched the powder off, the 'gator lost his mind. REPEAT 1ST CHORUS REPEAT 2ND CHORUS^^^ [already in DT - two versions (trad -click here) and (Driftwood - click here) -Joe Offer- ] |
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10 Sep 01 - 08:12 PM (#546682) Subject: RE: Lyr Request: Down the Miss to the Gulf/Mexico From: Banjo-Flower I've got the original sheet music from way when and guest's lyrics are correct except its ole Apry instead of old Hick'ry Gerry |
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18 Oct 11 - 10:22 PM (#3241068) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Richie Hi, I'm doing a series of unrehearsed (haha) videos showing people how to play different songs. This is my tutorial on Battle of New Orleans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBq3y33wWQ8 Hope it helps someone learn this or the fiddle tune Eighth of January in the Key of G, Richie |
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24 Nov 11 - 02:14 AM (#3262513) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST, James Molloy Written by Jimmy Driftwood in 1936 and recorded by Johnny Horton in 1959.Lonnie Donegan had a No 2 hit with it in the UK Charts in 1959. It was also recorded by Vaughn Monroe, Johnny Cash and Bill Haley.Jimmy Driftwood also wrote, Tennessee Stud. The Battle Of New Orleans is said to have been based on hthe "American fiddle tune 8th Of January". Does any one out there ha |
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24 Nov 11 - 07:19 AM (#3262593) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,kendall General Andrew Jackson's nickname was "Old Hickory", not Old Apry. |
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24 Nov 11 - 08:53 AM (#3262639) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler Never forget that date! My daughter's birthday(different year though). This must have been one of the few battles fought after the peace treaty had been signed. |
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24 Nov 11 - 09:05 AM (#3262646) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Lighter The version above is Horton's abridgement. Driftwood's song is considerably longer. |
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24 Nov 11 - 10:48 AM (#3262706) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower "General Andrew Jackson's nickname was "Old Hickory", not Old Apry." I'm not disagreeing with what you say Kendall as your knowledge of American History is far greater than mine but my original copy definately says"Old Apry" BTW have you noticed this thread is 10/12 years old Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 10:54 AM (#3262707) Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: THE BATTLE OF KOOKAMONGA (Homer & From: Arkie Also recorded by the Chordettes, Doug Kershaw, Tex Williams, Derek Warfield, Boots Randolph, Pete Seeger & Frank Hamilton, Leon Russell,the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band, Billy Strange, the Good Brothers, and a host of others not to mention Jimmy Driftwood. Also was a hit of sorts for Homer and Jethro as the Battle of Kookamonga. Jimmy also wrote "Long Chain On", which I consider his best song, that was recorded by Peter, Paul, and Mary and on a more recent recording by Peter and his daughter Bethany and her duo partner Rufus. Again, my opinion, but that version is one of the best recordings of all time and ages. The Battle of Kookamonga By: Homer and Jethro [G]In Nineteen and fifty nine we[C] took a little hike, With[D7] our scout master up to[G] lake Aneekanike, We took a little pizza and we [C]took some sour krauts, And[D7] we marched along together till we [G]heard the girl scouts Chorus: We're the boys from camp Kookamonga, our mothers sent us here for to[D7] study natures[G] ways, We learned to make sparks by rubbin' sticks together, but if we catch the girls we'll [D7]set the woods [G]ablaze. Well we crept up to the water and we[C] see'd the girls aswimin', there[D7] must of been a hundred of them [G]pretty young women, They looked so fine even[C] birds forgot to sing, we[D7] laid down in the posion oak and[G] didn't say a thing. Chorus: Well our counciler said we could [C]take em by surprise if we[D7] didn't say a word till we[ ]Glooked em in the eyes, We kept real still and we[C] kept our eyes aglued, we [D7]saw how they were dressed, they were[G] smimming in the....Well we're Chorus: Chorus 2: Well they ran through the briars and they ran through the brambles and they ran throught the bushes where the [D7]rabbits couldn't [G]go. They ran so fast even we couldn't catch em all the way from Lake Aneekanike [D7] all the way to Buff[G]alo. Well we ran right after them till[C] everyone was pooped, so we [D7]rested for a minute and our[G] forces we regrouped Then we saw the girls[C] behind some evergreens, [D7]captured by a company of [G]United States Marines. Chorus: Chorus 2: (in cadence) Rutty toot toot, rooty toot toot, we are the boys from the boy scout troop, We do smoke and we don't chew and we don't go with the girls that do. |
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24 Nov 11 - 12:27 PM (#3262750) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Lighter Even if "Old Apry" is actually printed on an insert somewhere, I guarantee you that "Old Hickory" is what's sung. Like most Americans of the '50s and earlier, Driftwood knew Jackson's nickname. ("Old Apry" would be like an American calling Churchill "Willie." Worse, since "Apry" doesn't even make sense.) |
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24 Nov 11 - 04:25 PM (#3262899) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower OK I hold my hand up and admit I was wrong I've rechecked my original sheet music and "Apry" is not mentioned (senior moment)but neither is "Old Hickory" My version names Colonel Packenham fighting "the rebels" I think this implies there was a UK version as well as a US version Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 04:32 PM (#3262904) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower PS they even spelt his name wrong it should have been Pakenham Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 05:53 PM (#3262935) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Les from Hull It also should have been 'General'. |
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24 Nov 11 - 05:55 PM (#3262938) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower Lighter Hick'ry/Apry my ears v your accent? BTW Churchill would have been Winnie not Willie Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 05:57 PM (#3262942) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower It also should have been 'General'. Sorry Les but the sheet music says colonel Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 06:03 PM (#3262945) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower but Google says General so you pays yer money and yer takes yer choice Gerry |
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24 Nov 11 - 06:53 PM (#3262974) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,Rog Peek My earliest recollection of Lonnie Donegan. Rog |
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24 Nov 11 - 07:51 PM (#3263008) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Donegan definitely sang "General Pakenham", and he also sang "Pakenham said we could take 'em by surprise". I still have the single, though virtually unplayable. Doesn't follow that he was right though, as there were other songs he altered, some of them quite drastically. Still, he was a great entertainer. Don T. |
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25 Nov 11 - 03:47 AM (#3263122) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower youtube Johnny Horton Battle of New Orleans(British Version) He sang Colonel Pakenham and Old Apry/Apree so my ears are ok Gerry |
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25 Nov 11 - 04:29 AM (#3263136) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,JimP Speaking from memory here, but I believe that Pakenham was a colonel at the time of the Battle of New Orleans. He had succeeded in the command of the British force after the death of (and here I can't remember -- Ross?). Of course, I grew up hearing the song, so that may be so ingrained in my consciousness, that I can't remember correctly. |
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25 Nov 11 - 08:33 AM (#3263221) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: kendall Someone was heard to say the Andrew Jackson was tougher than old Hickory, and the name stuck. |
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25 Nov 11 - 09:20 AM (#3263248) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Lighter Right here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxB42cjHTGg Horton sings "Old Hick'ry" as plain as can be. The transcriber, however, seems to think it's "Old Hitcreek." There are other errors as well. In this video, Johnny and his army sings the song at the North Pole: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsRK3DNoa_Q But he still sings "Old Hick'ry." Here's the cynical, make-us-even-richer overseas "British Version," which must take place in an alternative universe because the redcoats evidently win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWVypBROMgQ And guess what? Johnny still sings "Old Hick'ry." As he does here: |
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25 Nov 11 - 09:37 AM (#3263257) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower "Lighter Hick'ry/Apry my ears v your accent?" guess we'll have to agree to differ Gerry |
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25 Nov 11 - 09:54 AM (#3263269) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Lighter I suppose so. BTW, the last line of my post was accidentally deleted. But it was just another YouTube video of the same recording. Of course, if you decide to sing "Old Arpee," your version instantly becomes "folk." Which to choose? |
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25 Nov 11 - 09:58 AM (#3263274) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower BG I'm begining to rather like Old Hitcreek Gerry |
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25 Nov 11 - 10:37 AM (#3263298) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Les from Hull Major-General Sir Edward Pakenham. |
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25 Nov 11 - 01:15 PM (#3263398) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Banjo-Flower "Major-General Sir Edward Pakenham" that's a bit of a mouthful to fit in one line of a song no wonder they changed it to colonel plus it didn't do him any good as he didn't survive the battle Gerry |
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25 Nov 11 - 03:30 PM (#3263474) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: voyager Johnny Horton's BoNO recording was about my 1st exposure to the Folk Tradition. In 1984 (abouts) I penned my own version of - The Battle of New Oil-Lease (CHORUS) Iran thru the presses and Iran thru the papers Iran thru the White House where the oil money flows Iran so bad, our Army couldn't catch them They took our radar bases In the Gulf of Texaco {lyrics available on request} - voyager |
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08 Jan 21 - 01:18 PM (#4087080) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: voyager In case anyone needs reminding.....it's the 8th of January (Elvis's birthday) again. A rewrite of the BoNO / EoJ lyrics to the white lash political violence in DC might be a timely bit of craft. just saying voyager |
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08 Jan 21 - 01:56 PM (#4087087) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: leeneia The Battle of New Orleans was a cruel military debacle that is best forgotten, except to ask for forgiveness. If you really want to sing to that tune, write some new words. |
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08 Jan 21 - 02:09 PM (#4087091) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Felipa Leenia, we have had discussions before and will have them again about whether or not we believe in/approve of everything we sing. Although I do often tweak lyrics a bit, sometimes I am singing a song for its historical value or what it tells us about how others think. And sometimes there's a degree of ambivalence, when the lyrics appeal in some ways and not in others. The name of the tune does represent the date of the Battle of New Orleans, January 8, 1815 |
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08 Jan 21 - 02:11 PM (#4087092) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Felipa Is 8 Jan the date someone could write The Articles of Impeachment? |
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08 Jan 21 - 02:23 PM (#4087094) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: Felipa or the Gabby Gifford song (10 years since the date of attack on legislator and constituents) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/capitol-mob-recalls-attack-on-us-rep-giffords-decade-ago-gabby-giffords-mark-kelly-daniel-hernandez-paramedics-politics-b1784626.html |
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08 Jan 21 - 03:32 PM (#4087108) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,Hootenanny Leeneia, Aren't all battles cruel?? |
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01 Feb 22 - 05:10 PM (#4134815) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Battle of New Orleans (Jimmie Driftwood) From: GUEST,Henrithehero A lot of information on the origins of the song on this page: http://www.tsimon.com/battle.htm |