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22 Mar 09 - 03:54 PM (#2594688) Subject: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Folkiedave Many of you will remember that Malcolm was ill towards the end of last year. He was taken into hospital just over a week ago and his condition was found to be inoperable. It was his expressed wish that this news was kept to a number of close friends. Malcolm died this afternoon this afternoon (Sunday March 22nd UK time). His brother Ian and his mother were with him. I am sure there are many people who hold Malcolm in great esteem and rightly so. Ron Day recorded some of his story recently and I'll put together a short version of that and post it on here over the next week or so. Dave |
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22 Mar 09 - 03:57 PM (#2594691) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: The Sandman I did not know Malcolm personally,but I am sorry to hear of his death. |
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22 Mar 09 - 03:58 PM (#2594693) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Stilly River Sage He was such a treasure! I'm so sorry to learn this. Please post an obituary when it is available. 8941 Mudcat posts by Malcolm SRS |
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22 Mar 09 - 03:59 PM (#2594694) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: AllisonA(Animaterra) What a great loss. Go well, Malcolm. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:00 PM (#2594695) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Anglo Oh my God. This is absolutely dreadful news. In the small world of traditional music knowledge Malcolm stood as a giant. He leaves huge shoes to fill. Condolences to friends and family. This is devastating. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:00 PM (#2594696) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Emma B My sincere condolences and sympathy for his family in their time of loss A great loss to the folk scene too. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:00 PM (#2594699) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Noreen What a terrible shock! I have been enjoying seeing Malcolm around the mudcat threads after the worrying time when he was ill- never thinking we only had him for a short time. I will miss him a great deal, his great knowledge, sense and musicality. Rest in Peace, Malcolm. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:01 PM (#2594702) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Terry McDonald I am so sorry to hear of Malcolm's death. He was always the voice of reason and scholarship on this forum and is irreplaceable. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:09 PM (#2594707) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Desert Dancer I'm so very shocked and sorry to hear of this. I and many others in the Mudcat world appreciated his help with our queries and his contributions in the world of folk song scholarship. He's a great loss to us. There's some comfort that he had some time to read how we cared before he went. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to him. ~ Becky in Tucson & Long Beach |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:09 PM (#2594708) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Waddon Pete This is sad news indeed. All my thoughts are with his family at this time. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:11 PM (#2594710) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Jack Blandiver I'm shocked at this news; his erudition was legendary, and his patience with the rest of lesser mortals in this respect was that of a saint. He was one of the reasons I came to Mudcat and always kept a close eye on his contributions. His legacy in this respect is one of the most important on-line resources with respect of traditional folk song. Malcolm and I met many moons ago in Sheffield & I was flattered that he alluded to it once on Mudcat. My thoughts are with his family and friends at this time. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:15 PM (#2594714) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Will Fly I never knew Malcolm, being a comparative newbie here, but it was very obvious, from the posts of his that I read - and from references to him from other Mudcatters - that he was enormously erudite, knowledgeable and respected. My condolences to his family and to his friends. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:16 PM (#2594715) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: wysiwyg Oh dear. Rest well, Malcolm. ~S~ |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:18 PM (#2594718) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: bobad Sad news, he will be greatly missed. Condolences. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:19 PM (#2594720) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Phil Edwards I'm stunned. Dreadful news - we've lost a good one. I never got to know Malcolm properly and now never will, but he stood out even among the friendly and erudite Mudcat crowd both for the depth of his knowledge and for his willingness to take time over queries from ignorant newcomers. Heartfelt sympathies to everyone who was close to him. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:25 PM (#2594727) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: curmudgeon While this is indeed terrible news, we are all most fortunate to have the benefit of the immense contributions of knowledge and wisdom Malcolm bestowed upon us. And if we make good use of it, we can keep his spirit alive and with us - Tom Hall |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:26 PM (#2594728) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Paul Burke A huge loss, a massively learned scholare who freely disseminated his knowledge to the benefit of all. A decoration to humanity. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:29 PM (#2594729) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Mick Pearce (MCP) I'm really sorry to hear this. Although I live in more-or-less the same area as Malcolm I never met him, though we exchanged emails a few times. I was thinking just yesterday when looking at a thread that I was surprised he hadn't posted to and that it was a while since I'd seen him post. A sad loss of a knowledgeable and sensible contributor. My condolences to his family. Mick |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:30 PM (#2594730) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Seamus Kennedy Sad news indeed. Another good 'un gone. Thank you, Malcolm. Seamus |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:31 PM (#2594731) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: maeve Yes, Tom. That is a good way to honor the man. Thank you, Malcolm. maeve |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:42 PM (#2594737) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: John Minear I'm sorry that you are gone, Malcolm. It's a shock. I have a tremendous respect for your work. We will all continue to benefit from that and miss your presence very much. Best wishes to your family. J. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:45 PM (#2594743) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Amos Oh, no, no!! Not Malcolm. This is an outrage! He has been a mainstay of clarity and reason and a well-loved and respected source of deep musical knowledge here for many years. He will leave a huge hole in the forum, and in the music community at large. A |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM (#2594746) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Bonnie Shaljean I'm absolutely horrified to learn of this. I always enjoyed reading his highly knowledgeable and sometimes peppery posts, and it's hard to think they're at an end now. We're all the poorer for it. My deepest sympathies to his family. R.I.P. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:47 PM (#2594747) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: DMcG what can be said? like so many others here, Malcolm was always most helpful to me, not only in providing detailed information when I needed it, but also encouragement in PMs, written notes, scans of songs ... Malcolm worked on the notes for the new revision to 'Marrowbones' and hoped to do the same for the other 3 books in the set. Whoever takes up the challenge has much to live up to. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:50 PM (#2594752) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Azizi I join with others to send my condolences to Malcolm's family and friends. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:54 PM (#2594754) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: GUEST,Ed Cray I think I speak for a number of us on the western side of the pond when I feel a sense of great loss with the death of Malcolm Douglas, gentleman and scholar. |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:59 PM (#2594760) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Noreen Malcolm playing with our scratch ceili band at the Yorkshire Mudcat Gathering in 2001 |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:59 PM (#2594761) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Peace I'll miss you, Malcolm. Thanks for so much you shared so willingly. Bruce |
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22 Mar 09 - 04:59 PM (#2594762) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: ard mhacha A sad day, this man was a legend on this Site, to his nearest and dearest my heartfelt sympathy. |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:00 PM (#2594764) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: nutty Terrible news ... Mudcat and folk in general will be the poorer for his loss. He stood for all that was good about the 'cat' and will be sorely missed. Condolences to his family |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:05 PM (#2594771) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Sorcha I DID meet the gentleman, and was hoping to connect with him again....goodnight, Malcolm, sleep well. |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:17 PM (#2594778) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Zen I only met Malcolm once but always admired his knowledge and willingness to help. Condolences to his family. Zen |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:22 PM (#2594781) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Joybell So sad. We only ever met here. He always treated me as though I understood what I was saying. He even offered to look things up for me in the course of his studies. I felt so proud. Every time I think about chocolate teapots I'll think of him. Joy |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:25 PM (#2594785) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: Maryrrf Oh no this is horrible news. Malcolm will be sorely missed. I still can't believe he's gone. He will be very sorely missed. |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:41 PM (#2594800) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mrs.Duck Sad news. Thoughts are with his family and friends. |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:42 PM (#2594804) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: catspaw49 Malcolm Douglas was a fixture and a cornerstone of this community all these years and though we knew his health had become a problem he kept it well in the background as was his nature. There are no words to express the overall sadness the news of his passing brings to this place. He was much loved and respected. All of my best goes to his family and those who knew him best but I'd also send some compassion out to the other denizens of this unique place we have here. The Mudcat was far better than it ever could have been with him and we will be lessened immeasurably by his loss. This comes, almost to the day, five years on from the death of Rick Fielding.....another giant of the 'Cat. We can never replace what these men brought here. We are left blessed by the time they spent, the knowledge they left, and passion they shared. Thank you Malcolm.............and goodbye. Pat |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:42 PM (#2594806) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Joe Offer I met Malcolm in person at the home of Bill Sables many years ago; and I was surprised that he was so young, since he showed so much wisdom online. The body of work he left behind will be of great value to us over the years. Malcolm, you taught me a lot. I'll miss you. -Joe Offer- |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:45 PM (#2594808) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Herga Kitty This is an awful loss. He contributed so much, so helpfully, patiently and eruditely. Deepest sympathy to his family. Kitty |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:46 PM (#2594809) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Seamus Kennedy Malcolm Douglas - Mudcat Master, Posthumously? All in favor..... Seamus |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:52 PM (#2594814) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Matthew Edwards I'm very sorry to hear this news: my sympathy to his family. He very generously shared his knowledge and enthusiasm, and his erudition will be much missed. He had a great knack for disentangling some hoary myths about folk songs and folklore and crisply laying out the known facts. He was a man of many parts; he drew some rather good cartoons for a Manchester United fanzine. Rest in peace, Malcolm. Matthew Edwards |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:55 PM (#2594817) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) Farewell and Godspeed to a fine man, with much appreciation for the goodness and knowledge his life gave to this world. Jean Ritchie |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:58 PM (#2594822) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Betsy This the last thing Mudcatters needed - losing a contributor who contributed so much wisdom ,knowledge and patience. I knew that whenever I got to one of his postings , it would be intelligent and considered .Indeed , a sad loss. Deepest condolences to his family. RIP Betsy |
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22 Mar 09 - 05:58 PM (#2594825) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Barry Finn Because of the WWW this is a very severe blow to the folk community he touched around the globe. We are all the worst for losing him but we are all the better for his time, friendship & knowledge that he shared so freely with us all. He will be sorely missed. My condolences to his family & those lucky enough to had been his loved ones Barry |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:05 PM (#2594829) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: jacko@nz One of the finest. His scholarship in, and enthusiasm for, our music will be greatly missed. Jack |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:09 PM (#2594833) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Linda Kelly This is sad news indeed. Rest in peace Malcolm. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:17 PM (#2594842) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Lonesome EJ I used to give Malcolm a hard time for being such a serious scholar, and in part because he never hesitated to straighten me out on the facts when I ventured into any area of music history with which he was familiar. Which was pretty much all of them. As the years went by, I began to look for his posts concerning music which interested me, and took his word as gold. I don't ever recall seeing a post by him below the BS line, because he took this forum and his scholarship seriously. Goodbye Malcolm. This particular folk music dilitante will miss your flashes of erudition. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:20 PM (#2594845) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: meself A tremendous loss to Mudcat. I always felt that we as a group were fortunate that Malcolm was so generous with his time, knowledge and intelligence. ... |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:21 PM (#2594846) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Richard Bridge The loss of his knowledge and decency is a dreadful thing. Will someone write a song to him as splendid as the Keeler's homage to Hugill - "The Old Man's Gone"? |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:25 PM (#2594850) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: RTim I am Stunned! Although we never met, we have corresponded often and he has been a HUGE help to me on a number of projects. He was generous to the max with his insight and knowledge, and I have just given him a credit on my latest CD. He will be missed very much, and I am very sad. Tim Radford |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:27 PM (#2594853) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Tootler I did not particularly like his online persona, but I did respect his scholarship and knowledge of traditional music. I am saddened to hear of his death. He will be sorely missed. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:27 PM (#2594854) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST He will be missed, terribly. He was a good and a gentle soul, and a passionate scholar. Peace, Paul |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:29 PM (#2594855) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mooh Very very sorry to hear this. My hopes and prayers for him and his. Being around here for so long means we know each other in ways that just didn't exist pre-internet, kind of a bystander effect, just as we know literary, movie and TV characters, only with an interactive possibility that allows us to know more deeply. Malcolm, I didn't know you, but I'm so glad to have known you. "What we call death is only an horizon which is the limit of our sight." (Bede Jarrett) Peace, Mooh. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:33 PM (#2594859) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: johnadams This is shocking news. I have known Malcolm for several years and he has been a huge driver in the academic work of the English Folk Dance and Song Society, republishing song books (Marrowbones and English Classic Folk Songs) and putting the contents pages of the Folk Music Journal online. His work in other areas such as support for Yorkshire Folk Arts and South Riding Folk Federation was also an important contribution. And a really nice guy to have a drink with. The folk world is indeed a poorer place tonight. J |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:43 PM (#2594867) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jean(eanjay) So sorry to hear this sad news. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:47 PM (#2594870) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Anne Lister I'm sorry too to hear of this - deepest condolences to all who loved him. Anne |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:54 PM (#2594873) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas From: M.Ted When questions came up about the origins of a song, he was always the one who pulled the story together. A discussion was not complete until Malcolm Douglas had his say, and, more often than not, it was not even begun till his initial post. Often, he entered a discussion somewhat late, owing to the fact that he took time to research and check his answers, and to make sure that his references were properly cited and complete. In his postings, he was always both a gentleman and a scholar, and as enriched as we were by his presence, we are that much poorer for his loss. I only knew him from his postings here, but I'll miss him a lot. Deepest regrets to his family and friends. |
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22 Mar 09 - 06:56 PM (#2594876) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Janie All I can do is echo what others have already said at this shocking news. Peace be with him and all who loved him. Janie |
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22 Mar 09 - 07:07 PM (#2594887) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Surreysinger I'm saddened by the news. I had hoped that one day I might meet Malcolm .. his posts were always informative and of his knowledge was wide indeed. On a couple of occasions he posted messages to me about my research which made me feel that I was doing something worthwhile. His absence is certainly going to be a very great loss to us. Many condolences to his family and friends. |
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22 Mar 09 - 07:27 PM (#2594898) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Jon I'm sorry to read this news. |
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22 Mar 09 - 07:28 PM (#2594900) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Lighter This is a terrible shock and an irreplaceable loss. Malcolm seemed to have mastered everything worth knowing about English folksongs and he never stinted in sharing that extensive knowledge with the rest of us. In both particulars, Malcolm was among the very few. Though he and I never met in person, the world of the Mudcat suddenly feels like a much, much smaller place. My deepest condolences to his family. |
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22 Mar 09 - 07:30 PM (#2594902) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Steve Gardham The measure of the man, the legend. Malcolm knew he hadn't got long left and yet he continued to post to at least 2 other ballad lists as well as this one almost to the last. Amongst all the ballad scholars his star shone the brightest. An immense loss. |
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22 Mar 09 - 07:44 PM (#2594914) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Q (Frank Staplin) A great loss. No one could have been more helpful. |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:13 PM (#2594929) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Kent Davis If anyone knows how to contact his family, please pass on to them the contents of this thread. I will just repeat what I wrote to him a year ago: "Thank you so much for your contributions to Mudcat. I have learned so much from them. Your erudition is immense. That it is combined with common sense is refreshing. That these are combined with a clear style of writing is amazing." Kent |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:15 PM (#2594930) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Susanne (skw) Oh no! I never met him, but I'll miss him more than many people I have met. The Mudcat will be different without his knowledge and also without his welcome voice of sanity. |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:17 PM (#2594932) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Sandy Mc Lean On subjective issues we often differed, but I am very sorry to hear of his passing! He will be greatly missed here by one and all! RIP! |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:19 PM (#2594934) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz Rest in Peace... |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:21 PM (#2594936) Subject: For Malcolm - Tonight. From: RTim Tonight, while I was eating my dinner - I drank a toast, in a good French Pinot Noir, to the memory of Malcolm Douglas, whom I admired very much.
Also, in respect and in memory, I played the CD of 'East Anglia Sings' -
I am continuing to think of him, and his family and friends, may they be To Malcolm - a fine man indeed........ Tim Radford |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:23 PM (#2594939) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: SINSULL Rest in peace. |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:24 PM (#2594941) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: NOMADMan This is a terrible shock. What a great loss to those who relied on Malcolm for his vast knowledge and his ability to get to the heart of all questions of scholarly folksong research. Malcolm simply can't be replaced and he will be sorely missed. Sadly, John |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:38 PM (#2594952) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Big Mick In the grand realm of it all, Mudcat is a small part of this man's life. Yet his contributions here, which touched and enlightened us around the globe, cannot be measured. There are many that have shared wisdom with us, many that have enriched our knowledge and love of the music, but rare is the one who has been so consistent and giving of their hard earned knowledge. This was a gentleman, and a gentle man. Good on ya, Malcolm, thanks for all you did for us. Your voice will be heard in all those graced by your scholarship, in many lands and for many years to come. We are a poorer family today, friends. Mick |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:43 PM (#2594953) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Charley Noble Malcolm will certainly be missed, although his contributions to threads here will continue to sustain us for years. I only regret that I never got to meet him in person to thank him for his efforts. Charley Noble, rising a glass |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:47 PM (#2594957) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: katlaughing I echo what Spaw and Barry Finn said...Rick Fielding immediately comes to mind as another *biggie* loss here at Mudcat. We will survive such losses, but Mudcat will never be the same...each time we lose one of them, it changes. Thank you, Malcolm, for all things. My condolences to his family and friends. Noreen, thanks for the link to the picture. kat |
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22 Mar 09 - 08:56 PM (#2594967) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jack Campin Shit. Malcolm was somebody I really wanted to meet one day. One of his last postings was a followup to a comment of mine. As so often, he could be absolutely precise about something I was only making an informed guess about. He did that with my postings for years. Now it looks like we'll all have to do that careful research for ourselves. |
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22 Mar 09 - 09:10 PM (#2594981) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bill D ....coming in late today, I am in shock. Malcolm was ....was... all the good things said above. He was the rare combination of musician and scholar. I had the rare honor a couple years ago of being able to obtain a scan of an old book he was unable to obtain in England, and get it to him. Malcolm & the late Bruce Olson used to compare notes here on arcane details of early music.... I don't think either of them were religious, but I'd like to imagine them with an eternity to argue over minutiae. We have so many of their contributions in Mudcat to remember them by.... We will miss Malcolm terribly. |
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22 Mar 09 - 09:52 PM (#2595003) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Suegorgeous Gosh, I'm shocked and saddened. Didn't really know him, but he obviously had a vast knowledge of his subject and cared deeply about the music and what lies behind it. I found him a little abrasive, but came to respect his contributions and the love he had for our tradition. Go well. |
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22 Mar 09 - 10:44 PM (#2595025) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Rowan So sad! I only ever met him via his postings on Mudcat but his scholarship set, for me anyway, the benchmark. Always succinct, only ever critical in the properly constructive sense, his contributions will be sorely missed. Because of the detail he contributed and also the way he drew together the relevant postings from diverse threads I think it important that newcomers have their attention drawn to his contributions. Perhaps via a Permathread. Some may see this as a memorial but I suggest it as a valuable resource. Vale Malcolm! |
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22 Mar 09 - 10:58 PM (#2595032) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dave the Gnome I met Malcolm at the Yorkshire gathering and have fond memories of both the event and the person. Another one bites the dust:-( DeG |
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22 Mar 09 - 11:34 PM (#2595045) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Phil Cooper I always liked to read Malcolm's posts. I'll miss them. RIP Malcolm. |
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23 Mar 09 - 12:11 AM (#2595057) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mark Clark Like many, I only knew what he posted here. His knowledge, wit and contributions here have been well documented. I too am saddened by his passing. - Mark |
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23 Mar 09 - 12:17 AM (#2595060) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: The Borchester Echo Devastating. He and I exchanged views and knowledge on and offlist on a vast variety of subjects, conversations to which his contribution was infinitely more erudite and valuable than mine. Not least, his Mac Help By Email was without parallel. Time indeed to conclude that wading through the rest of the dross by comparison that gets posted on here is utterly pointless if Malcolm's not going to show up any more to impart the right answers. Farewell and RIP. |
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23 Mar 09 - 01:57 AM (#2595080) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,DWR Can't even imagine what I could say to add to all that those who came before me said so eloquently. So I'll just say that it goes for me too. I'll miss him. Dale |
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23 Mar 09 - 02:23 AM (#2595084) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: nager Sad news indeed. Rest in peace Malcolm. Paul |
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23 Mar 09 - 03:23 AM (#2595093) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Hrothgar I am sad that he is gone, but I am glad that he was here. Rest in peace. |
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23 Mar 09 - 03:35 AM (#2595100) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: r.padgett I have just seen this very sad news Malcolm was a regular at the TSF meetings at Sheffield where I last saw and spoke to him He was a true fountain of folk song knowledge and a mainstay for Stirrings and SRFN around Sheffield, South Yorkshire A gentleman to the last God bless Ray |
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23 Mar 09 - 03:59 AM (#2595105) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jim Lad Well this is a sad day. I must confess to getting into the "She Moved Through the Fair" debates as often as I could, just to get his reactions. He never let me down and I enjoyed him immensely. Take your time, Malcolm. We're not too far behind you. God Bless and keep. Jim |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:28 AM (#2595111) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dave Sutherland From my earliest ventures into Mudcat he was always there with the source of a song plus a number of alternative versions should they exist. A wealth of knowledge which will be so sadly missed. RIP |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:33 AM (#2595113) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: John J I'm shocked and upset - Malcolm was such a knowledgeable man. The way he contributed to Mudcat (and no doubt humanity too) should be an example to us all. A true gentleman. To echo Paul Burke's message: 'A huge loss, a massively learned scholar who freely disseminated his knowledge to the benefit of all. A decoration to humanity.' There really is no-one to replace such a man with such a fount of knowledge. I will miss his informed contributions. My very sincere condolences to his family and his friends - and to us all for such a terrible loss. This really has buggered up my day. John |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:35 AM (#2595114) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MoorleyMan Only just found the thread on my return. Hey, this is sad news indeed. In common with many other Catters I never had the privilege of meeting Malcolm, even though we lived a mere stone's throw apart as it were, but his intense erudition and consistent good sense were both inspirational and aspirational and rightly commanded a tremendous amount of respect. My sympathy and condolences to his family. MM |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:38 AM (#2595116) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MC Fat I heard the sad news at my session. Malcolm will be missed as a musician, scholar and friend. He was a great supporter and worker for the Sheffield folk festival producing graphic work of exceptional quality at times being a voice of reason at committee meetings. He was a one off and very special |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:49 AM (#2595121) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bryn Pugh Oh, dear. The world is a darker, gloomier place, today. I never met him in person, and now I won't. The erudition and scholarship he demonstrated was colossal. If it isn't a contradiction in terms, so was his modesty. Our heartfelt condolences to those near to him in love - all of us, I'd say. May he rest in the arms of the Great Mother, and know the All Father's smile. So mote it be. Erica and Bryn |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:22 AM (#2595126) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: stallion It doesn't surprise me that I, like so many others, never actually met in the flesh but had the benefit of his knowledge and scholarship through this place. bugger |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:34 AM (#2595130) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: sian, west wales This is a sad sad loss. How many times has discussion of a tune or song deteriorated into a mess of conjecture and wrong turns and brick walls, and we've known that it would all get sorted out when Malcolm showed up? I can't help but think of that Gary Larson cartoon of sheep at a cocktail party, with the caption: "Our party's total chaos! No one knows when to eat, where to stand, what to .. Oh, thank God! Here comes a Border collie!" That's how I often felt about discussions awaiting Malcolm's appearance. My sincere condolences to his family and friends - including us here, regardless of how well we may have known him. Like Spaw, I too thought right away of the empty chairs at the Mudcat table ... I'd like to think there is a renewed obligation upon all of us who remain to keep Malcolm's commitment to research and accuracy alive, off list and on. sian |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:45 AM (#2595135) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Mary Humphreys I will miss his generosity, help and knowledge greatly. My condolences to his family and friends in their sad loss. It is also ours. Mary Humphreys |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:50 AM (#2595139) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST, Sminky Sad news indeed. Although we never met, I felt I knew him somehow. His erudite posts will remain as a testament to his scholarship. RIP Malcolm - and thanks. |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:00 AM (#2595144) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: bill\sables A very sad loss, Malcolm was good to know. Bill |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:05 AM (#2595146) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Roberto A deep scholar, I've learned many things from his comments and even changed some of my bad habits in using terms about traditional music, after he rebuked me (e.g.: I used to say "version" for what is not a different version but just another "recording" of a song). A strict teacher. I held him in high esteem. R |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:05 AM (#2595148) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Fred McCormick I only met him once, and that recently, when he bought some LPs I was selling for charity. I hope he had time to enjoy them. As his voluminous contributions to Mudcat and elsewhere testify, he was that rare combination, a gentleman and a scholar. |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:18 AM (#2595152) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jim McLean Very shocking news. I always looked for Malcolm's conribution to a thread as I would be sure of a sound, erudite answer. My condolences to his family. |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:43 AM (#2595165) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Brian Hoskin Malcolm's name on a contribution was a assurance of erudition, accuracy and thoroughness, this terribly sad news has left a huge gap in this forum. My condolences to his family and friends. |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:55 AM (#2595168) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Little Robyn Oh, no! I had hoped to meet Malcolm someday. Threads were never complete until Malcolm had added his knowledge. I will miss him. Robyn |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:06 AM (#2595172) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Diva I really enjoyed his posts over the years, he was so knowledgable. I was lucky enough to meet him at the TMSA conference in Edinburgh a few years ago and it was a rare treat to have a chat. My sympathies go his family and to those who knew him well. Kathy Hobkirk |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:16 AM (#2595179) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST Spaw has so eloquently said all I could possibly say: I second his every word. Thank you Malcolm for so freely sharing your knowledge. --Stewie. |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:22 AM (#2595181) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: rich-joy Reading this thread title a few minutes ago, was a real shock. Mudcat (and the world) were all the better for his knowledge and his sharing of it. Vale, Malcolm. R-J |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:36 AM (#2595190) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: fat B****rd My best regards to Malcolm's family and friends. RIP |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:39 AM (#2595193) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: RoyH (Burl) Like so many others I am shocked and saddened to learn of the death of Malcolm Douglas. His posts were always worth reading and his love of the music shone through. The folk world loses a friend. My condolences to his family. Rest in Peace Malcolm. |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:45 AM (#2595195) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: George Papavgeris Very, very sad. RIP, Malcolm. |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:50 AM (#2595202) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Christine Dowling (inactive) I am an avid reader of mudcat. It is my first stop in researching any song and Malcolm's name on a thread always guaranteed a well-researched and thoughtful contribution. It is a terrible loss. |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:10 AM (#2595212) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST I'm very sorry to hear this sad news. I'm not sure if I ever met Malcolm personally but I read his contributions to this forum and other groups with great admiration and pleasure. I considered him to be a most reliable source of information but also valued his gentle humour and the way that he could point out mistakes without offending. As is evident by the number of messages above, he will be sadly missed by a great many people besides his family and those who knew him personally. I hope they may be comforted a little by knowing that. Good night, Malcolm, and thanks. Yorkie Bartram |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:42 AM (#2595236) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: A Wandering Minstrel So sorry to hear of this. Malcolm was a great scholar of folk music and his posts here were always well worthy of reading and consideration. I shall miss his contribution to many debates. |
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23 Mar 09 - 09:12 AM (#2595255) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MMario I can't really add anything to what others have said. mY condolences to his friends and family; my grateful thanks for the contributions he made here. Malcolm was always gracious and responsive to my admittedly non-scholarly approach to tune searches; and his contibutions were enormous. |
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23 Mar 09 - 09:55 AM (#2595287) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Abby Sale I too am shocked and saddened. I thought Malcolm would always be there and I had plenty of time to meet him or write another PM. Always stunning when I thought I had checked out some song to find there was so much more to it. His understanding for where and how to research humbled and encouraged. I'm not surprised but actually did not know how highly he was esteemed here and elsewhere. The appreciation shown by so many posters, many of whom I admire as serious and knowledgeable, gives Malcolm's legacy. Sorely missed already. Abby |
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23 Mar 09 - 10:07 AM (#2595293) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dave Hanson I never had the pleasure of meeting Malcolm, but like many, I regarded him as a friend. Sincere condolences to Malcolm's family |
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23 Mar 09 - 10:14 AM (#2595299) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Tinker Just as I picture Rick Fielding with a guitar in the middle of a Jam with a couple of watchful students nearby.... I see Malcom with access to every dusty reference tome (and the original authors) sorting out the true story to be had behind the tune. Joyful rest and knowledge to one who passed it on with patience and gentle wit. |
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23 Mar 09 - 10:18 AM (#2595302) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bernard He's achieved one thing we all dream of... he will be fondly remembered, even by people whom he never had the chance to meet. That's one of the good things about Mudcat - his memory will live on. |
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23 Mar 09 - 12:53 PM (#2595404) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Spleen Cringe Like many others here I never met the man, but thoroughly enjoyed and appreciated and learned so much from his contributions to Mudcat. Sorry to hear this sad news and my thoughts go out to his friends and family. Nigel |
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23 Mar 09 - 01:12 PM (#2595418) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Les from Hull I was so sad to hear this news. What a great loss Malcolm's passing will be to his family and many friends, especially here on Mudcat. I feel privileged to have met him and was impressed by his quiet manner (I'd always been impressed by his encyclopaedic knowledge and his scholarship). Malcolm taught me an important lesson here on Mudcat - if you're imparting some information, mention where you got that information. Or if it's just your opinion, say that it's just you opinion, or that you might have read it somewhere. People who use the Internet to gain knowledge (not just Mudcat, we are much better than the average) would do well to follow Malcolm's example. So long, old friend! |
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23 Mar 09 - 01:45 PM (#2595438) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Bob Askew The world is a smaller place. A great man has gone. I am not a dab hand on the computer, and rarely get a chance to read Mudcat. But these postings underline the immense good work he has done. I was lucky enough to meet Malcolm a couple of times, and he was generous and helpful with his great knowledge. We had a long chat in November at the TSF in Sheffield: he was mentally vigorous, cheerful and positive, but he was obviously very ill and quite weak. We were walking back up a hill, and I suddenly felt that I was drawing ahead. I apologised for going too fast. He said No, It was he who should apologise! A gentleman to the end. Rest in peace Malcolm Bob Askew |
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23 Mar 09 - 02:41 PM (#2595480) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST It is a strange sensation to find myself so devastated by the loss of someone with whom my relationship existed largely in cyberspace. I fear Malcolm is irreplacable in terms of his huge knowledge and his generosity and patience in sharing it. Many of the above remarks have echoed my feeling that Malcolm's messages on any topic were the ones I would always look out for. He would never rush to comment, but always wait until he was absolutely certain of what he had to say. And those of you who might hold an image in your mind of some dusty academic, would possibly be surprised by some of his musical tastes and the artwork mentioned above. There were few if any in our little world for whom I bore more respect. |
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23 Mar 09 - 02:47 PM (#2595483) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Brian Peters Sorry, above 'Guest' was me, cookieless in Buffalo. |
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23 Mar 09 - 04:51 PM (#2595579) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: BB Such a shock to find this thread. It feels as though we've lost a friend that we thought would always be there. Especially as he had started posting on Mudcat again after his earlier hospitalisation. It is said that no-one is indispensible - I disagree. In terms of academic knowledge and research in folk song, I can't imagine anyone ever being of such help to so many people. Never getting embroiled in the arguments, sorry, heated discussions that arose in so many threads, but always the voice of calm reason and fact, Malcolm seemed to me to be the most valuable resource any of us could wish for. It saddens me that his work on the 'Marrow Bones' series can't be completed - or will have to be completed by other lesser mortals. If we feel the loss so much, how much harder must it be for his family and close friends. I hope that the knowledge of the high regard in which he was held will help them in their loss. Thank you, Malcolm. Rest in peace. Barbara |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:17 PM (#2595607) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: greg stephens Very very sad news. Malcolm was the voice of scholarship on Mudcat, immensely knowledgeable, painstaking in his pursuit of truth, quick to pounce on sloppy and ill-considered statements, eloquent in defence of traditional music, always ready to help to point you in the direction of what you were seeking, and occasionally an irascible old bastard. A great man, I shall miss him hugely. |
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23 Mar 09 - 05:36 PM (#2595624) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MikeofNorthumbria Having access to Malcolm's wisdom on this forum has been a great privilege. We are all the poorer for his passing, and he will be sadly missed for many a long day. But perhaps the best way to honour his memory is for all of us to try a little harder to get our facts straight before we rush into print with our opinions. Wassail! |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:46 PM (#2595674) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MartinRyan Just back from a wonderful weekend of singing (Inishowen festival) to hear this sad news. A man of wisdom, intellectual rigour and patience - a great loss. Regards |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:51 PM (#2595681) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: gnu RIP |
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23 Mar 09 - 06:53 PM (#2595686) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Derek Schofield very sad news indeed. Malcolm was generous with his time and his knowledge. Even though ill, he took time to send me information for the latest issue of English Dance & Song and I was honoured to contribute a piece about Frank Purslowe to Malcolm's new edition of Marrow Bones. he will be very sorely missed. Derek Schofield |
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23 Mar 09 - 07:00 PM (#2595695) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Gulliver Sorry to hear this. RIP |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:00 PM (#2595745) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Jim I I think a measure of Malcom's importance to so many is the fact that so many have logged on to regret his passing in such a short time. I would also like to add my sincere regrets and to say that I cannot believe anyone could ever replace him, either in our thoughts or here on Mudcat. Jim I |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:09 PM (#2595751) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Scabby Douglas (sadly, no relation) His contributions were always precise and scholarly, which occasionally, I believe, irked some others who would much rather take an easier, less exacting path. His devotion to the music shone through, always. He will be missed. |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:15 PM (#2595754) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Snuffy We are all diminished by his passing: he was simply irreplaceable. I like Bill D's conceit of Malcom and Bruce Olson spending eternity ironing out the minutiae of old broadsides and Child ballads. Good-night, sweet prince; And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest. |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:19 PM (#2595756) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Barbara The world and ours is poorer for his loss. Condolences to his family, and to us, his Mudcat family. Blessings, Barbara |
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23 Mar 09 - 08:55 PM (#2595775) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Dave MacKenzie I only met Malcolm face to face a couple of times at Cecil Sharp House but on the too frequent occasions when I phoned the library with a desperate request he always took the time to try to find me an answer. Even though I haven't done it for several years, it was always a comfort to know that Malcolm's patience and knowledge were there. He'll be sorely missed. |
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23 Mar 09 - 10:35 PM (#2595815) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Desert Dancer Dave MacKenzie, as often happened, you may be confusing Malcolm Taylor (RVW Librarian) with Malcolm Douglas (editor of Classic English Folksongs, webmaster for the South Riding Folk Arts Network, etc.). ~ Becky in Tucson |
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23 Mar 09 - 10:43 PM (#2595821) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Derby Ram This is very sad and shocking news. Losing Malcolm is like losing a limb. He was the friendly and helpful face of the 'House' from as far back as I can remember always ready to help any and every equirer seeking information from the Library resource - often 'above and beyond. What an immense and tragic loss to us all. He's certainly going to be a hard act to follow. My condolences to all his closest. R.I.P. Malc. Keith & Sylvia |
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24 Mar 09 - 01:00 AM (#2595870) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Desert Dancer (Again - Malcolm Taylor, EFDSS Librarian is still with us.) |
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24 Mar 09 - 01:09 AM (#2595873) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: YorkshireYankee Haven't permitted myself to visit Mudcat much during the last few years (due to its addictive qualities), but when I heard about Malcolm... I was shocked to hear this dismal news from FolkieDave at a pub sing in Sheffield last (i.e. Sunday) night. Like so many others, I knew he had been ill, but had no idea just how serious it was. We drank to his memory, and Paul & Liz D. sang one of his favourite songs (an Anglicised version of 'Twa Corbies' which, it turns out, was a Scottish version of a song which originated in Yorkshire... so -- very appropriate.) Earlier today, Ron & Jenny Day assured me that copies of this thread will be shared with Malcolm's family; they think the family will enjoy being able to see the high esteem in wich Malcolm is held by so many. May it provide some comfort... As for me, while it has already been mentioned here & there above, I'd just like to emphasize the huge part Malcolm played in the Sheffield & Yorkshire folk scene(s). Although I only met him a couple of times myself, I can tell you that he was one of those people who do a great deal of work 'behind the scenes' -- but isn't necessarily one of the better-known faces -- because he didn't do the high-visibility stuff. A lot of people in the folk scene are in it (at least partly) for the attention and/or enjoy the limelight (that's an observation, not a criticism), but Malcolm -- quietly -- did massive amounts of tedious, 'non-glamourous' work, including setting up & maintaining the South Riding Folk Network website; doing the layout for loads of printed materials for the Sheffield Folk Festival; working on 'Stirrings' -- the local folk publication; and no doubt a fair few other things I don't know about. Not only that, he coped with tight deadlines and the (too often) late supplying of needed info -- with good humour; a model of grace under pressure. IF he received credit for his contributions, it was usually in small print near the bottom (of whatever). I have a special admiration for those who are honestly not bothered about whether or not they receive any recognition for their efforts, and I believe Malcolm was one of those rare souls. Sometimes it seems like it's the folks we can least afford to lose who get 'taken away' the soonest... |
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24 Mar 09 - 05:54 AM (#2595938) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Dita Sad news for the world, the folk world and Mudcat. Kind thoughts to those who knew and loved him. I only encountered him here, and his contributions were always enlightening, knowledgeable and informative. If that makes him sound dry, he was anything but. He always backed up his thoughts with references. Any time we did cross swords, it was invariably me who was wrong, and it was others, never Malcolm who made sure I knew it. The world is now a lesser, less knowledgeable place. John McCreadie |
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24 Mar 09 - 06:27 AM (#2595956) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: pavane I can only add my agreement as to the sad loss, and a devastating blow to Mudcat. Malcolm was very helpful with my own research, and I will always treasure his words. |
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24 Mar 09 - 10:31 AM (#2596119) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Sue Coe I just wanted to add my thoughts on our huge loss of Malcolm. He was such a knowledgeable friend and so generous with his knowledge and skills. He built and maintained the Yorkshire Folk Arts website ( as well as the South Riding Folk Network one) - on a totally voluntary basis and was a much valued member of the committee. Just a very special person who will be so much missed. |
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24 Mar 09 - 10:46 AM (#2596132) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: JohnB Almost met him last year, I guess I will have to wait a bit longer now. What a loss to all of the Community's he was involved with. JohnB. |
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24 Mar 09 - 11:21 AM (#2596156) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Wyrd Sister It was months (if not years) before I realised the chap who turned up with his fiddle halfway through the session was THE Malcolm Douglas - he really was that unassuming. Also A man of many talents RIP |
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24 Mar 09 - 01:36 PM (#2596267) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,jOhn Very sad news, we will all miss Malcolm. John Evans |
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24 Mar 09 - 04:26 PM (#2596417) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Bearheart Malcolm's contributions here enriched my musical and intellectual life immeasurably. Mudcat is a treasure, and Malcolm is one of the people who has made it so. It is a joy to be connected if only by the Net to so many people who share a passion for the music. And many who take it seriously. Yet even here, not so many of us have had the drive, the dedication, the resources (inner and outer), and the brilliance to track down the music to the extent Malcolm did. There was something deeply satisfying about the way he could illuminate a tune or a song, bringing it to life in one context or another, that made it easy to acknowledge one's own limitations or biases. I never felt chided by his corrections, never felt that they were motivated by anything other than a desire for truth and understanding. There is a lot not to like in the world sometimes; I feel deeply blessed when I think about Mudcat, and Malcolm. Integrity, passion, intellectual excellence, and a sense of not being alone in the things that really matter, the things that feed the soul. I often send a prayer of appreciation for the departed and good speed when I see an obituary here. It's not often I feel compelled to express it to the community. I couldn't let this one pass without a word for how much Malcolm's presence here meant to me. |
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24 Mar 09 - 04:32 PM (#2596423) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: alanabit He was one of Mudcat's most rigorous intellects. I did not know him at all personally, yet I have no doubt that he will be hugely missed by anyone who knew him in any capacity. My condolences to all those who knew him better. |
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24 Mar 09 - 06:51 PM (#2596535) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,John Moulden I much regret the passing of Malcolm Douglas. When I had time to be a regular contributor to this forum, it was he and Bruce Olsen who had the best things to say. Bruce's work (website) has been preserved by the Department of Folklore at the University of California in Fresno. It is to be hoped that a similarly appropriate memorial will commemorate Malcolm. |
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24 Mar 09 - 07:03 PM (#2596541) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Alice Oh, this is sad news. I learned so much from Malcolm. Alice |
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24 Mar 09 - 10:25 PM (#2596641) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: IvanB Coming to this thread late, I can only echo many of the sentiments expressed here. As I've mentioned several times in other threads, when I joined Mudcat specifically for help on some lyrics, Malcolm was the first to answer, not only with the line in question but background information on the poem and its writer. I soon learned that, most often, the most learned and considered response to any "squabble" on Mudcat would come from Malcolm. I already miss him. Although I did have the opportunity to meet him once I knew him far better from his online persona. My tribute for a life well spent, Malcolm. May your onward journey be filled with even better and greater quests. |
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25 Mar 09 - 12:57 AM (#2596706) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Joybell I've just remembered -- it was Malcolm who came up with the words to "Sleepers Awaken" when I needed them. Nobody else remembered them. Not anyone anywhere. I just had the few bit's from True-love's memory. It was this song that made my production special. Now I can't get the words out of my head along with the thoughts of the special person we've lost. Joy |
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25 Mar 09 - 06:57 AM (#2596802) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Spillers I had the pleasure of working (and occasionaly playing) with Malcolm between 2003 - 2007 as part of Sheffield Folk Festival team. Among other things Malcolm was reponsible for designing the programmes where his tirless attention to detail, vast knowledge and graphic skills ensured that these publications will be collectors items. Apart from the 2004 programme, where there was "a bit of space to fill" Malcolm's work was largely uncredited which is how he preferred things. The folk world in general and the Sheffield area in particular will miss Malcolm enormously. |
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25 Mar 09 - 07:43 AM (#2596838) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work) Malcolm produced the programmes and publicity material for Sheffield Folk Festival from 2003-2007 and they were indeed of great quality. I'm sure the standard of the work was one of the reasons we acheived good audience numbers from the start. He was, as my colleague there has reported, in the background beavering away but when he had a comment to make it was always pertinent and usefull never trivial. A wise man indeed, who as this thread has shown will be greatly missed |
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25 Mar 09 - 09:32 AM (#2596915) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Sheila God bless you, Malcolm. You steered me to "Ae Fond Kiss" after much fruitless searching. Sheila |
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25 Mar 09 - 10:19 AM (#2596948) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Malcolm's Funeral will take place on Thursday April 2nd at 2.00pm. It will be at Grenoside Crematorium, North Chapel, Skew Hill Lane, Grenoside, Sheffield, South Yorkshire S35 8RZ. There will be a session afterwards - details not yet confirmed but be prepared to bring your instruments and voices. If there is any coming who is able to let me know in advance please PM me. |
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25 Mar 09 - 10:20 AM (#2596950) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: masato sakurai Malcolm has been my mentor on the web. I've learned a lot from his erudition. Masato |
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25 Mar 09 - 11:55 AM (#2597040) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Willie-O Damn. Knew his stuff. There are none so knowledgable, articulate and opinionated. Well, "damn few and they're all deid." Thanks for the 9000 posts, Malcolm! They will be useful forever. Damn. Bill |
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25 Mar 09 - 01:34 PM (#2597124) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave A few people have asked about dress code etc, at the funeral. First of all no flowers. Donations to go to the Macmillan Nurses. Dress casually. Those who knew Malcolm personally will know he rarely appeared without a waistcoat. So if you have a fancy coloured waistcoat then wear it in his memory. |
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25 Mar 09 - 05:15 PM (#2597294) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Bob Coltman What a shock. I was used to Malcolm's frequent rescue of questions no one else could answer, and often benefited from his encyclopedic knowledge. His vast well of folksong information, as far as I know, was close to endless. He was very nearly as much a master of numerous ins and outs of American folksong as he was of his native British. He did not suffer fools gladly, and was not afraid to be blunt. I knew if I got a point wrong on a thread, he would sternly set me straight. He expected us to be knowledgeable, even when we weren't, and lost no time in giving us a brusque comeuppance. (Hope nothing inaccurate crept into this one, Malcolm!) But how we benefited,and how much he gave us! His tart presence was one of the major factors that made Mudcat what it is. There can be no replacement. Malcolm was unique. This loss is huge for all of us, and I will sorely miss him. Bob |
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25 Mar 09 - 07:57 PM (#2597413) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: MC Fat Believe Wake/Session will take place at Kelham Island Tavern from 3pm in afternoon Thursday 2nd April. According to Trev at pub correct if wrong. Jim |
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25 Mar 09 - 07:58 PM (#2597416) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave No problem Jim, Sounds about right to me. Dave |
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27 Mar 09 - 09:12 AM (#2598498) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Trevor Just arrived late at this thread. I'm so sorry to hear this sad news - RIP Malcolm. |
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27 Mar 09 - 02:03 PM (#2598706) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,HiLo I am very sorry to hear this..although I have only recently begun to post here, I have been reading Mudcat for many years and always enjoyed and appreciated his vast knowledge...a great loss. |
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27 Mar 09 - 02:09 PM (#2598709) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: meself Has there been an "official" obituary notice? If so, could someone post it, or direct us to it on the 'net? Thanks. |
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27 Mar 09 - 07:14 PM (#2598919) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Gina Le Faux It was a shock to hear the news of Malcolms death, I still can't get my head around it. Gina Le Faux |
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27 Mar 09 - 07:32 PM (#2598924) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: katlaughing Wyrd Sister, thank you for the link to Malcolm's artwork. I think I've seen the "loaded" badger before, but had no idea of the rest of it. Marvellous and makes the loss even more tragic. |
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27 Mar 09 - 07:59 PM (#2598943) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Kenny B (inactive) RIP Malcolm A gentleman and a scholar who will be sadly missed Kenny B |
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27 Mar 09 - 08:07 PM (#2598948) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Joe G Sadly I did not know Malcolm but clearly he was held in high regard by friends here so I wish those who knew and loved him the deepest sympathies. Joe G |
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27 Mar 09 - 09:06 PM (#2598974) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca I'm so sorry to hear that Malcolm has passed on. Wonderful person from what I can see of all of what I could learn here over the years |
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28 Mar 09 - 09:00 AM (#2599176) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Philippa I too will greatly miss Malcolm's knowledgable postins on Mudcat |
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28 Mar 09 - 11:58 AM (#2599272) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GeoffLawes Malcolm's contributions to Mudcat were always well informed,clear and to the point. I am grateful for the time that he gave to ensure that it was so. We will miss him. Geoff Lawes |
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29 Mar 09 - 07:15 PM (#2600092) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Richard Mellish I have come to this even later. I can't add anything original but I wish to register my agreement with all that has been said. It won't be the same without Malcolm's contributions, but let's do the best we can. Richard |
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01 Apr 09 - 02:47 PM (#2602454) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Malcolm's mum has asked that people do not make a fuss of her. If you are coming to the funeral please respect this and pass it on. |
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01 Apr 09 - 04:16 PM (#2602520) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: PoppaGator Sad news. Since Malcolm was so tremendously knowledgable, and seemed to epitomise the deepest kind of wisdom, I always assumed he was relatively elderly; so, when I first spotted the "Obit" thread title, I was not immediately shocked or taken aback. However, after reading through the above, after seeing a fairly recent picture, and having learned of his mum's plans to attend his funeral, I am now shocked to realize that he was a relatively young man who died well before his time. I don't believe there has been any mention here (yet) of his birthdate or his age, only his date of passing. Such information is, of course, standard in any regular newspaper-type obituary, so it should become available to the public, at least in the area of his home. I would be glad it someone could link us to such an obit, or to pass along a little more biographical data. Again, condolences to his family, of course ~ and also to all the many people around the globe who depended upon Malcolm for answers to questions that no one else could be trusted to answer with such care and in such detail. |
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01 Apr 09 - 04:35 PM (#2602545) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST, topsie It seems he was only 55 - far too soon to go. See Desert Dancer's posts in the 'In praise of ...' thread. |
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01 Apr 09 - 06:59 PM (#2602660) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave I don't believe there has been any mention here (yet) of his birthdate or his age, only his date of passing. Such information is, of course, standard in any regular newspaper-type obituary, so it should become available to the public, at least in the area of his home. I would be glad it someone could link us to such an obit, or to pass along a little more biographical data. The Guardian "Other Lives" column will almost certainly use the stuff we have sent. So it will appear there. I will certainly provide a link once it is on-line. August 10th 1954 – March 22nd 2009 are the dates. At the funeral there will be talks about his work as an illustrator, as a mudcatter, as a local musician and his work with the EFDSS. Once the funeral is over if anyone wants a copy of the "mudcat" talk I am happy to email it. |
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01 Apr 09 - 11:43 PM (#2602776) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: katlaughing FolkieDave, if you are comfortable posting it, here, I think it would be more than appropriate. If not, then I would definitely like a copy and will PM you with an email addy. Thank you for offering. |
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01 Apr 09 - 11:47 PM (#2602777) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: mouldy I've only just really put my head to thinking if I could add anything to what has already been said. I can't. I can remember meeting him at the Yorkshire gathering. Superb bloke! It's already 2nd April here in NZ. Hope his farewell is a good one. (He will never really be gone as long as the knowledge and wisdom he imparted over the years is there). Andrea |
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02 Apr 09 - 03:18 AM (#2602828) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: georgeward I feel as Mouldy does in the post above. It has all been said - eloquently - and I'm just here to mourn with the rest of you. Then again, is that not one more way that one of our greats has brought us together - in however much sorrow ? Mourn. Celebrate a life that meant something. Carry it on. Be grateful. Never forget. All we can do. What we must do. - G |
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02 Apr 09 - 03:30 AM (#2602838) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Little Robyn If he was born in August 1954, then he's only 54, would have turned 55 in 4 months. Far to young. Robyn |
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02 Apr 09 - 04:04 AM (#2602849) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Big Phil RIP. |
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02 Apr 09 - 12:04 PM (#2603182) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: nutty I've been thinking about him all afternoon. Hope he got a good send-off. |
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02 Apr 09 - 03:25 PM (#2603362) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: johnadams I've just got back from Malcolm's send off. After Bob Dylan's 'Lay Down Your Weary Tune', Raymond Greenoaken introduced four speakers on four topics. The Illustrator: Tony Husband (cartoonist) The Mudcat Hero: Dave Eyre (of this parish) The Indispensible Quiet Man: Ron Day (South Riding Folk Network) The Scholar: Malcolm Taylor (Vaughan Williams Memorial Library) Then Musicians Martin Harwood, Keith Hinchliffe and Cath James played for Tegwen Roberts to sing 'Linden Lea', a piece that Malcolm himself nominated as his funeral music on a Mudcat thread. Then the assembled company went to the Kelham Island Tavern in Sheffield to play music and sing songs. It was a fitting send-off for a remarkable man. |
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02 Apr 09 - 03:33 PM (#2603365) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,suzi Rest well Malcolm. x |
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02 Apr 09 - 03:34 PM (#2603366) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Thanks for that Johnny it was indeed a fitting send-off. Lots of people including childhood friends and some great stories. The Guardian "Other Lives" section will be publishing the piece that Raymond Greenoaken and Ron Day and I wrote ASAP. So keep an eye out for that. |
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08 Apr 09 - 06:38 AM (#2607179) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: alanww I have only just caught up with this tragedy. Yes, Malcolm was a remarkable man with remarkable knowledge and he will be sorely missed. His scholarship certainly encouraged me to widen my own knowledge, partly by collecting old song books. I hope his extensive collection will go to good use elsewhere. "... for I be free to go abroad ..." Alan |
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15 Apr 09 - 03:59 AM (#2611488) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Derek Schofield The Guardian has published the piece on Malcolm in today's issue (Wed 15 April). Other Lives section of the obituaries page, written by Ron day, Dave Eyre and Raymond Greenoaken. Derek |
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15 Apr 09 - 04:23 AM (#2611497) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST Link to Guardian article |
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15 Apr 09 - 07:21 AM (#2611567) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Sue Coe Many thanks to Dave, Ron and Raymond for that piece in the Guardian. With their permission we've also use it for our Yorkshire Folk Arts site. |
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15 Apr 09 - 10:36 AM (#2611679) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Desert Dancer Obituary Malcolm Douglas * Ron Day, Dave Eyre and Raymond Greenoaken * The Guardian, Wednesday 15 April 2009 Our friend Malcolm Douglas, who has died from cancer aged 54, had many talents, but two in particular brought him to national prominence. He had a compendious knowledge and understanding of traditional folk song (mainly, but not exclusively, English folk song), and he was a renowned illustrator and comic artist. He fell into these contrasting fields by accident, but he treated them with meticulous attention to detail and a professionalism that belied his lack of formal training. He became an illustrator after volunteering to illustrate a student union newspaper at Sheffield University, and found that people were prepared to pay him to do what had hitherto been a hobby. His illustrations featured in a wide range of comics, of which the best known was Oink; he was also the illustrator of the footballing devilkin Fred the Red, for five years delighting both young and old readers of Manchester United match programmes. For the English Folk Dance and Song Society (EFDSS) he revised the evergreen song collection The Penguin Book of English Folk Songs, originally edited by Ralph Vaughan Williams and AL Lloyd in 1959. In his new edition, published in 2003 as Classic English Folk Songs, he corrected previous errors and brought to the book a wealth of additional detail. He did the same well-researched and comprehensive review of another of the EFDSS's most successful publications, Marrow Bones (2007), a collection of folk songs from Dorset and Hampshire, originally edited by Frank Purslow. He was working on a third, The Wanton Seed, when he succumbed to illness. He was also well-known among folk-music enthusiasts for his contributions to the online forum The Mudcat Café, where he had posted almost 9,000 detailed answers to questions about the most obscure aspects of folk song and music. Malcolm was born and brought up in south London, and after attending Trinity School of John Whitgift in Croydon, he went to Sheffield University to study French and English and decided to stay on in the city, which he regarded as his home town. He was committed to the principle of the people's ownership of their cultural heritage and was involved in many grassroots initiatives, even expressing concern about what he saw as the over-professionalisation of the folk arts. He was co-host at the Red Deer folk club in Sheffield for a decade and was active in regional organisations such as the South Riding Folk Network (SRFN) and Yorkshire Folk Arts, maintaining websites for both organisations, editing the SRFN magazine and designing the South Yorkshire folk magazine Stirrings. Malcolm was also a performer, playing the fiddle, mandolin and cittern with various concert and dance bands, and was a familiar figure at music sessions in and around Sheffield. He is survived by his mother, Sylph, and his brother, Ian. |
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15 Apr 09 - 05:36 PM (#2611963) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Steve Gardham Excellent, Well done, Ron, Dave and Raymond! Over the next couple of weeks we will be looking at what further needs to be done to get Wanton Seed to the publishers. |
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17 Apr 09 - 10:08 PM (#2613571) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Michael Mannix As Malcolm's scriptwriter and collaborator from Sheffield University days I wish to add my signature to that of those people who mourn his passing. 'Malc' was a major influence on me, and his artwork was one of the iconographical hallmarks of Sheffield University life in the mid-1970s. I maintain our collaborative 'Mickey Drivel' chararacter as my usual email address: Mickeydrivel@aol.com. |
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17 Apr 09 - 11:20 PM (#2613601) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: ex-pat RIP Malcolm. Read many a post on Mudcat. |
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18 Apr 09 - 12:39 AM (#2613627) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: sharyn How sad. I loved reading posts from Malcolm, although I never met him. At least we will have his voice here. Sharyn |
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18 Apr 09 - 01:02 AM (#2613634) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: katlaughing Thanks for posting the Guardian obit. Well done, fellows. kat |
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24 Apr 09 - 01:20 PM (#2617899) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave This is kind of repeated in today's Sheffield Telegraph linked to the story of the World's Biggest Ceilidh Band attempt later this year. There is a good piccie of Malcolm taken a while ago, and the illustration off his website http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/Folk-band-play-tribute-.5197617.jp |
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24 Apr 09 - 01:33 PM (#2617913) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Surreysinger Thanks for that Dave. |
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24 Apr 09 - 02:47 PM (#2617992) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Wyrd Sister Folkiedave, is that pic really Malcolm? It looks nothing like I remember him! |
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24 Apr 09 - 04:44 PM (#2618079) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST It really is Malcolm! I think his hair is tied back in a pony tail. Look closer you can see it is him! |
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24 Apr 09 - 04:49 PM (#2618082) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Sorry that Guest was me! |
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24 Apr 09 - 05:06 PM (#2618093) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Jack Campin Could somebody keep us informed about the October event? |
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24 Apr 09 - 06:14 PM (#2618137) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Of course Jack. And I am sure that accommodation will be available to those who wish to conme from afar. |
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07 May 09 - 10:39 AM (#2626254) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: YorkshireYankee Ron Day (one of the co-writers of the pieces that appeared in the Guardian and the Sheffield Telegraph) has been kind enough to pass along a short note written by Malcolm's mum and brother. It was intended to appear with the Telegraph article, but in the end was not included. We thought that at least some of the people it was written for (and many more as well) would have a chance to see it if it was posted [modified very slightly] here: Since coming to Sheffield in recent times and meeting Malcolm's friends and acquaintances, we have become aware of the depth of his involvement in the English folk music scene, both practically and academically. Thanks to all who were able to attend on April 2nd at Grenoside -- and afterwards at the Kelham Island Tavern, where we witnessed a celebration of Malcolm's life through his friends' respect and obvious love of performing music -- and also to all those who sent messages, but were unable to attend. We also wish to specifically thank Malcolm's friends who supported him during his illness. -- Mr Ian Douglas, brother and Mrs Sylph Douglas, mother. |
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07 May 09 - 12:10 PM (#2626339) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Thanks for passing that on Vicki. |
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16 May 09 - 05:36 AM (#2633161) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: GUEST,Ewen Kirk RIP I just received from Ebay a collection of old "Oink!" comics, and after flicking through them, my brother decided to search online for information concerning one of our favourite childhood artists, JT Dogg (Malcolm Douglas).. I was devastated when I heard the news of his death. His work was a great inspiration, and many of his famous double-paged posters lined my old bedroom walls. Having discovered that he also shared a love of folk music has made me want to discover even more of his work.. Having found this forum in my search, I thought it would be a good place to show that his earlier work in illustration also inspired and touched peoples lives, and that this was indeed a great loss.. My condolences to his family and friends. Ewen Kirk |
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05 Oct 11 - 07:52 AM (#3234211) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: Folkiedave Thanks for that Ewen. Nice to know his work is still appreciated. |
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05 Oct 11 - 09:01 AM (#3234246) Subject: RE: Obit: Malcolm Douglas (22 March 2009) From: stallion Malcolm's contribution to this forum through his scholarship and comment was enormous and I miss his insight and Barry was in the same mould miss them both |