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Modal Appalachian songs

24 Mar 09 - 11:49 AM (#2596186)
Subject: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Jayto

I want to find some more modal Appalchian songs. Kind of in the vein of Coockoo Bird, Rueben's Train, Honeybaby,.. etc. I know my spelling is off and I also know some of the ones I listed are older than what would be considered Appalachian but that gives you an idea of the type of sound. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
cya
JT


24 Mar 09 - 12:39 PM (#2596230)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: maeve

Many of Jean Ritchie's songs would be appropriate, Jayto. She is Mudcat's kytrad, and I doubt she's ever sung or played a poor one.

maeve


24 Mar 09 - 12:47 PM (#2596238)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Jayto

Oh yeah I am familiar with her. Thanks for reminding me. I knew I was just needing my memory jogged a little.
thanks
JT


24 Mar 09 - 01:43 PM (#2596272)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: oombanjo

Bangum, same old man. chilly winds. Aint got no Honey baby now,Rock the cradle.Sailaway ladies.Little Sadie.


24 Mar 09 - 02:41 PM (#2596316)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Jayto

I will have to check it out. I haven't heard a few of those. Little Sadie and Honey Baby are the only 2 I am familiar with.
Thanks
JT


24 Mar 09 - 02:45 PM (#2596319)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: ClaireBear

Does Some Dark Holler qualify?

C


24 Mar 09 - 02:58 PM (#2596330)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Sorcha

Shady Grove, Mattie Groves, LOTS of the Child Ballads, Cluck Old Hen, Cold Frosty Morning, Home with the Girls in the Morning...


24 Mar 09 - 03:33 PM (#2596367)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: fretless

Elzig's Farewell, East Virginia (at least in some of its variants). Try going to banjo tab sites such as Banjo Hangout and look for tunes in modal tuning, gDGCD.


24 Mar 09 - 03:34 PM (#2596369)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: fretless

And once you've got your list, post it for the rest of us!


05 Apr 09 - 09:03 AM (#2605007)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Nehi

Here's 200 appalachian songs you might find interesting.

http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/english-folk-songs/


05 Apr 09 - 12:12 PM (#2605075)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Geoff the Duck

Shall we turn that nto a BLICKY - http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/english-folk-songs/.
Quack!
GtD.


05 Apr 09 - 12:36 PM (#2605085)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Nehi

Thanks Geoff.


05 Apr 09 - 01:15 PM (#2605106)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: WyoWoman

What a treasure, Nehi! Thank you so much. It is bookmarked in my world now!

--WW


05 Apr 09 - 04:15 PM (#2605185)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: open mike

Tim Eriksen does some wonderful ones...he is in the group Cordelia's Dad and has had a hand in the music from several movies...he also specializes in shape note singing as seen in Cold Mountain.

I played a cut from "Spine" (on my radio show yesterday) by Cordellia's Dad and it has those haunting modal harmonies...


05 Apr 09 - 04:25 PM (#2605189)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: open mike

http://www.timeriksen.net/, http:// www.cordeliasdad.com


05 Apr 09 - 09:51 PM (#2605361)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: GUEST,Michele Callaghan

Also you can find some good songs on Elizabeth LaPrelle's CDs. She has a different kind of voice than Jean Ritchie but is a good example of Appalachian-style singing.


05 Apr 09 - 09:57 PM (#2605365)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: open mike

see: http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/appalach.htm
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old-time_music
and http://www.aca-dla.org/dlamusic/dlamusic.html


06 Apr 09 - 02:24 AM (#2605442)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Tradsinger

Check out our version of 'The Wife of Usher's Well'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbri9Nfjcr8

Enjoy

Tradsinger


06 Apr 09 - 03:24 AM (#2605458)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Spleen Cringe

Cath and Phil Tyler.

Lovely stuff. I believe Cath used to be in Cordelia's Dad, too.


06 Apr 09 - 12:07 PM (#2605679)
Subject: RE: Modal Appalachian songs
From: Stringsinger

Almeda Riddle, Texas Gladden, Horton Barker (these are voices you have to get used to)
all sang songs of this tradition. Buell Kazee, Clarence Ashley,(East Virginia) and of course Jean Ritchie carries on this tradition (as well as the Ritchie family from the Cumberlands). It's a marvelous musical style that is often not understood by new interpreters.

Peg Seeger knows about this style too. "Wedding Dress" for example. Or Hally Wood's "Saint James Hospital". The "modal" thing is speculative. Were the so-called Church modes employed by these traditional Appalachian songs? The jury is out on that one.

Check out Texas Gladden singing "I Never Will Marry". "Cousin" Emmy singing "East Virginia Girls".

Then there's the "House Carpenter", many versions of "Barbara Allen" that precede the popularization by such folks as Joan Baez.

The connection with the ballad style of Northern Ireland and the Scottish Border becomes
apparent when you hear these old-time ballads.

"Lord Randall" has some interesting variations as well.

When you bring in the conventional chord structure of the guitars and some banjos (though many tunings were used to incorporate the old-style tunes), the original
unusual quality of these old style songs were lost into the stew of early "country music".
This is what Cecil Sharp was complaining about and he may have had a point.

Early "country" music has it's own quality, though, differerent from what we're talking about here.

Frank