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02 Jun 09 - 06:05 PM (#2646911) Subject: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha We have inherited round a 'lyre leg' (4 legs) marble topped table. NOT a claw foot, legs are on wheels. The round top is NOT attached to the legs at all. The top has a place about 2-3" across with a serious 'gouge' in it. Is there any way to fill this in and 'fix' it? Sanding down the top is really not an option because the gouge is fairly deep. If it would help I could take pics and put them up on my Flickr! site. Thanks! |
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02 Jun 09 - 06:39 PM (#2646935) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Stilly River Sage I have a table that is small, like a hall phone table, with a top that simply sits on it instead of being set into a frame or attached. Not something you want to put where it will be banged into; toppling over once is all it takes. Stonemasons repair carving mistakes on tombstones and monuments all of the time. I think you should be able to find some kind of filler that would work on it. SRS |
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02 Jun 09 - 06:42 PM (#2646938) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Rapparee Can you simply turn the top over? It might be less costly to buff up the "bottom" than to repair the top. Deep gouges require deep repolishing and a filler will ALWAYS look like a filler on marble. |
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02 Jun 09 - 06:44 PM (#2646941) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha No, Rap....there is a bevelled edge on the polished top. Bottom is raw. |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:01 PM (#2646948) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: wysiwyg So ask a local kitchen installer to bevel the other edge and polish the surface. Or-- You could consider the bad area a potential inlaid area, have a cutout done in an arty shape and have an insert (inlay) dropped in. ~S~ |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:07 PM (#2646953) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: GUEST,Bizibod Wax is what was used in days of yore to fill in scrapes and knocks on carvings and statues . The word "sincere" means literally "without wax". P'raps cunningly arrange a large vase or objet d'art to stand over the gouge ? |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:11 PM (#2646957) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha OK, thanks, I'll inwestigate. |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:11 PM (#2646958) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Richard Bridge If you find a memorial stonemason, he will probably have offcuts of granite from his work, and will polish and cut it for you cheap. So you can get a new granite top (much prettier IMHO) for peanuts. I have a large granite section in my kitchen work surface, and it cost 60 quid! |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:16 PM (#2646962) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Bee-dubya-ell Almost any gouge can be repaired using a paste made from epoxy and a powdered form of the original material. For a marble slab, if it's regular run-of-the-mill white marble (or if a 100% match isn't an issue) mix up a repair paste from pulverized marble and epoxy. Just get hold of a few marble chips (sold for landscaping or aquarium use) and beat hell out of 'em with a hammer. Then mix the epoxy according to directions and add the marble powder. Try a few different ratios of powder to epoxy until you find what seems best. I'd start with 70% powder/30% epoxy, but that's just a guess. Be sure to use a good grade of slow-drying non-yellowing epoxy. If it's a colored marble, try to find rocks that are a close color match and use them instead of plain marble chips. |
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02 Jun 09 - 07:35 PM (#2646981) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha I think I'll get ahold of the gravestone carver first.... |
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02 Jun 09 - 08:13 PM (#2647005) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha OK, some pics HERE...click . Not exactly sure which page that will take you to, you might have to change pages? |
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02 Jun 09 - 09:53 PM (#2647051) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Q (Frank Staplin) How deep is deep? Look shallow from the photo, so grinding down and polishing may be the answer. Your local marble and tile or tombstone shop should be able to do it. I had a verde antique marble slab from a former soda fountain repolished and it serves as the hearthstone of a fireplace. Usually they do this sort of thing after hours, the owner turns his back. I used the stone powder-epoxy mixture once and it wasn't too bad- but I could still see it. It was that slightly gray with darker lines, much like yours- this was a very popular (and probably more abundant) kind at one time. I replaced a broken top to a side table with new marble, too many fragments missing and mending impossible. Rather expensive, as beveling is so much per inch. |
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03 Jun 09 - 03:00 AM (#2647124) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Georgiansilver Many items are now made with re-constituted marble which is powdered and reformed... not sure how they do it but it is certainly practiced..... if you could source someone who does it then it could be realistically filled to match or maybe almost match. Failing that then I suggest getting it filled with resin in a colour match.. Best wishes, Mike,. |
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03 Jun 09 - 05:45 AM (#2647192) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Georgiansilver Suggest you google 'fake marble resin' and see what comes up. Best wishes, Mike. |
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03 Jun 09 - 08:19 AM (#2647270) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha Thanks, all! At least I have a starting place now. |
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03 Jun 09 - 10:53 AM (#2647398) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: PaulF Save it for use as a tombstone, sure the gouge could be incorporated into someone's name. Paul |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:02 AM (#2647405) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha LOL...well, I just googled the table.....others similar are selling for $1,000 and up.....mine probably isn't in that good a shape tho! |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM (#2647413) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Stilly River Sage What an idea! :) It's a beautiful table, Sorcha. I can see why you want to fix it. Keep in mind that sometimes the repair will diminish the value (think Antiques Road Show). I guess I'd probably live with the gouge, maybe try polishing it to decrease it's visibility. SRS |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:29 AM (#2647438) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Rapparee 1. The underside could easily be cleaned and polished. You could try a mild acid (e.g., vinegar, perhaps with baking soda) to remove the brown ring which is likely from furniture polish. If you want a high polish (and it doesn't have one hiding under the patina of ages) a decent gravestone maker could probably do it -- or try Bon Ami. 2. The gouge was probably caused when someone dropped something heavy on it. The beveling on the edge is also damaged and the edges of the damaged area are weakened and could eventually fall out. You'll need a good workman to repair it and he wouldn't guarantee the results. This from an old (years ago) gravestone maker. |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:37 AM (#2647443) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha Yes, I decided this is NOT a DIY table. For all I know it's a REAL victorian table....and I don't want to totally destroy any value it has. |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:41 AM (#2647446) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: wysiwyg Doilies cover a multitude of sins, and this is prolly another reason they were invented. Antique dealers we know from our annual Antique Show would say leave it exactly as is, to preserve the value. ~S~ |
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03 Jun 09 - 11:46 AM (#2647452) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: wysiwyg PS, another option is to leave it totally alone as an investment, but add a granite or glass round, un-glued on, on top of it, for making it pretty at home. You can put pix under the glass to distract the eye from marble blemishes. At the homes of parishioners who used to deal and collect antiques, I've seen guess what-- LOVELY pieces that ALL, if you look close, have a multitude of blemishes. The art of antique display is to decorate around the blemish, knowing that the eye will go to color and form and ignore the blemish. This one only looks so bad because it's naked. Put some clothes on it-- decor of any sort. ~S~ |
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03 Jun 09 - 12:05 PM (#2647468) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: PaulF Think of it like an ugly woman wearing a very short skirt. Who looks at her face? Paul |
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03 Jun 09 - 12:05 PM (#2647469) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha I asked my glass man once about cutting rounds.....he laughed and asked me how many I wanted to pay for before he managed not to break one? |
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03 Jun 09 - 01:14 PM (#2647509) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: wysiwyg Wrong glass man. I know-- vendors in short supply in your area. Home Depot has carried them precut. Ask you glass man if he has better luck with acrylic or plexi. A smallish framed, round mirror makes a nice base for a vase, and reflects the light and the vase so beautifully it should eclipse the blemish. ~S~ |
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03 Jun 09 - 02:58 PM (#2647587) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Sorcha OK, I don't do 'tiddly' decorating. I don't WANT a 'glass top' on it. It is currently the Asyou....put it on the asyou and pick it up as you go by. I cleared it to take PICS! Sheesh. |
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03 Jun 09 - 07:23 PM (#2647779) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: Stilly River Sage Wax would probably be a benign treatment to diminish the gouged look. A circle of glass on the top of it wouldn't be bad, actually, but it would make it a bulkier table if you ever want to move it. My ex took apart my small hall table and I've never gotten around to reassembling it. The marble is sitting in the middle of a kitchen counter with things sitting decoratively on it. He wiped out several of my antiques, though he meant well. The finish on a little old round oak kitchen table is gone on top but not on the rest of the piece. Took apart a rocker, took apart a lamp, took apart this table. This wasn't helpful and I asked him to stop taking things apart. I haven't managed to reassemble any of them, though I think I still have all of the parts. SRS |
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04 Jun 09 - 01:52 PM (#2648362) Subject: RE: BS: Help pls...round marble table top repair From: jeffp Just make up a good story to explain the gouge. |