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21 Jul 09 - 01:41 PM (#2684605) Subject: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: autoharper First published in 1915, "The Old Gray Mare" melody has enjoyed various sets of lyrics (as an 18th century black spiritual, an 1860 campaign song for Abe Lincoln, and a 20th century civil rights anthem). The earliest published use of the melody that I know of is 1867, as an Oklahoma play-party song "Go In The Wilderness". Sam Hinton collected this parody of "The Old Gray Mare" as a boy in growing up in East Texas in the early 1930's: "The old gray mare went swimming in the Delaware In her yellow underwear and said she didn't give a care The old gray mare went swimming in the Delaware Many long years ago." Please post the parodies of "The Old Gray Mare" that you grew up with and indicate the approximate year and region or state in which you learned it. Thanks, -Adam Miller |
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21 Jul 09 - 02:40 PM (#2684663) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: Joe Offer Adam, it looks like you and I are looking at the same source. Sam Hinton did a wonderful album on Folkways called The Wandering Folksong, studies of a number of different songs, through the development of different versions and parodies. Adam has given part of Sam's information on "Old Gray Mare," but maybe it's worth posting the notes on the song completely. 1. The Old Gray Mare There are probably more people that know one verse of this song than there are that know any other non-patriotic song in America. It's been around quite awhile, and has moved repeatedly back and forth between the popular and the folk traditions. In 1858 J. Warner published a piece called, "Down in Alabam," later known as "Down in the Wilderness." In 1915, Frank Panella published it as a fox trot or schottisch for orchestra, calling it "The Old Gray Mare." There can be little doubt, however, that the Warner version was based on earlier folk material. The Old Gray Mare came a-tearin' out the wilderness, Tearin' out the wilderness, Tearin' out the wilderness. The Old Gray Mare came a-tearin' out the wilderness Many long years ago. Old Abe Lincoln This was a campaign song used the first time the Republicans put up a presidential candidate, in 1860. It worked, too!
Tearin' out the wilderness, Tearin' out the wilderness. Old Abe Lincoln came a-tearin' out the wilderness - - Way down in Illinois. Old Jeff Davis tried to tear down the gover'ment, Tear down the gover'ment, Tear down the gover'ment. Old Jeff Davis tried to tear down the gover'ment, Many long years ago. And Old Abe Lincoln had to come build it up again, Come build it up again, Come and build it up again. Old Abe Lincoln had to come build it up again, Many long years ago. Swimming the Delaware This verse is typical of the many floating nonsense stanzas that have attached themselves to the "Old Gray Mare" tune. The Old Gray Mare went swimming in the Delaware, In her yellow underwear -- Said she didn't give a care! The Old Gray Mare went swimming in the Delaware, Many long years ago. In the Wilderness This play-party song was collected in Oklahoma by Ber Botkin.
Come in the wilderness, Come in the wilderness. The first little lady come in the wilderness -- Down in Galilee. Hands up! 'Round my lady, 'Round my lady, 'Round my lady. Hands up! 'Round my lady - - Down in Galilee. I Wait Upon The Lord The precursor of J. Warner's "Old Gray Mare" was almost certainly a religious song, although it is not quite certain whether it started as a Negro song or a white one. The version given here is certainly an early one, having first appeared in print in 1867 in Slave Songs of the United States by Allen, Ware, and Garrison; they got it from singers in the Carolina Sea Islands.
I wait upon the Lord, I wait upon the Lord; I wait upon my God, Who take away the sins of the world. CHORUS: If you want to get to Heaven, Got to go in the wilderness, Go in the wilderness, Go in the wilderness. Mornin', brother, go in the wilderness, Got to go in the wilderness, And wait upon the Lord. If you want to meet Jesus. . ETC. If you want to be a Christian. . . ETC. Afflicted sister. . . ETC. I learned the "ain't what she used to be" version of this song (one verse only) when I was growing up. That, and "Great Green Gobs of Greasy Grimy Gopher Guts.". Be sure to look at the threads that are crosslinked above. So, are "Hoosen Johnny" and "Sam Houston" and "Little Black Bull" related? I guess they're at least cousins. -Joe- |
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21 Jul 09 - 07:52 PM (#2684927) Subject: Lyr Add: A DOLLAR AIN'T A DOLLAR ANY MORE From: Art Thieme Adam, First, I'm sorry I didn't get to meet with you when you were touring through this part of the country a week or two ago. Carol's aunt is not very good, as I said, but she's some better than she was and is back at her nursing home.-- Onward! There is a song to the tune of Old Gray Mare that is on a CD I did with Folk Legacy. You have it already I'm thinking. It is an old song I learned from a 78 rpm record by The Union Boys. It is a gently hard-hitting song that would work well with modern audiences. ------- Called "A DOLLAR AIN'T A DOLLAR ANY MORE." I was feeling mighty hungry and thought I'd buy some bread I went down to the local grocery store, Put down the usual money but the grocer shook his head, Said "A dollar ain't a dollar any more!!" chorus) A dollar bill don't buy what it used to, Don't buy what it used to, don't buy what it used to, No, a dollar bill don't buy what it used to And a dollar ain't a dollar any more. I was living in a boarding house the room was awful small, 2 walls, a ceiling, and a floor, The landlord raised the rent and now I'm living inside the wall And a dollar ain't a dollar any more. From the tree that grows in Brooklyn to the California shore, Well, the words elude me right now. I'll have to go listen to my own record --- and get back to this thread later. Art Thieme |
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21 Jul 09 - 09:21 PM (#2684973) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,mg We used to sing:
Old grey mare she crossed the Delaware mg |
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22 Jul 09 - 07:36 AM (#2685179) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: autoharper Dear Art, I am laughing out loud. I know the feeling of having to listen to one's own recording to remember lyrics now forgotten. I have known "A Dollar Ain't a Dollar Anymore" most of my life, but this is the first time I realized it employs the "Old Gray Mare" melody. Thanks! Frank Hamilton once pointed out that the spiritual "Down By The Riverside" also uses the "Old Gray Mare" chord progression. I am reminded of reading a story where Pete Seeger pointed out to Woody Guthrie that Woody had (once again) used the "Goodnight Irene" melody for his "Roll on Columbia" song. And it was a surprise to Woody, so organic was his songwriting method. -Adam |
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30 Dec 09 - 03:57 PM (#2799527) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,jrock The old grey mare came trotting down the Delaware Pulling up her underwear seeing what was under there the old grey mare she ain't what she used to be many long years ago |
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19 Oct 11 - 02:43 PM (#3241445) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Jean did you remember the rest of the words to that parody? I'd love to have them1 Thanks, Jean |
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10 Nov 14 - 07:54 PM (#3676297) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Autoharper Autoharpist and folksinger Roz Brown of Denver, Colorado, remembered one from a Nebraska childhood: The old gray mare she [raspberry] on the whiffletree, [raspberry] on the whiffletree, [raspberry] on the whiffletree, The old gray mare she [raspberry] on the whiffletree, Many long years ago -Adam |
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10 Nov 14 - 08:11 PM (#3676298) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: Bert Here we sit like birds in the wilderness... |
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30 Sep 15 - 11:52 PM (#3741043) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST The old gray mare she burned off her underwear had to buy another pair, had to buy another pair. The old grey mare she burned off her underwear many long years ago. |
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01 Oct 15 - 01:31 AM (#3741046) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: Mark Ross To the same tune; Great green gobs of greasy grimy gopher guts, Mutilated monkey meat Little birdies dirty feet A whole quart jar of greasy grimy gopher guts And I forgot my spoon. |
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20 Apr 16 - 08:47 PM (#3786402) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Stu Cole The Old Gray Mare - She ain't what she used to be... The Old Gray Mare - She went to the County Fair, Sat on the 'Lectric Chair, Wore out her underwear. The Old Gray Mare - She ain't what she used to be Many long years ago. NOTE: Sung to us when we were kids by our parents in the late 1930's, 1940's. |
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21 Apr 16 - 06:18 AM (#3786437) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: Jim Carroll And old Grey Mare of a different colour, from Ireland. Jim Carroll The Old Grey Mare All you young men both great and small take counsel and be wise, Attention pay to what I say, my lectures don't despise, Let patience guide you on every side, of traitors now beware, There is none but men that's sound within can ride my Old Grey Mare. Granuia's sons great wonder done, they set olid Ireland free, Joshua and Diavid's sons, likewise M.cAbee, Constant the Great will ever shine and be our standard rear, There's none but men chat's sound within can ride my Old Grey Mare. Buonaparte on her did sitant, he rode full fast, it's true, At Moscow plain she got lame and was beat at Waterloo, She sailed o'er to' the Shamrock shore where Dan he did her care, The very next chase, she won the race, my sporting Old Grey Mare. In Erin's Isle, when fortune smiled, there lived Brian Borue, Phelan O'Neil, Carlinton Miles, Sarsfieild and Munroe; Bold Roderick you know, not long ago, ranged Wexford aod Kildare, Tandy, Sheares and other peers, they rode on my Grey Mare. In mutual love, as pure as a dove, when we do each other greet, Beware of scrapes., broils and spars, or quarrels when you meet, Don't probe old sores, nor conquer Job*, let patience guide you there, Lest in a fog that you might bog and drown my Old Grey Mare. *[cankered jobs] These three hundred years, as it appears, no steady statesman did her ride, 'Til Providence had gave due sense and reared the people's guide, Brave noble Dan, ,he now rides on, Erin's right's his only care, The Parliament for to be sent -back on my Old Grey Mare. O'Donovan Rossa, who learned this song in his childhood, was certain that the wonderful horse meant Ireland (Rossa's Recollections), but, as Georges Zimmermann points out, "this does not stand the reading of the whole song. The different texts would rather evoke confused ideas of glory, victory, perhaps justice or liberty. In fact, the song has probably no emblematic meaning." It was said to have been a great favourite of Irish revolutionary leader Padraig Pearse. Napper Tandy and John and Henry Sheares were leaders of the United Irishmen. Phelim O'Neill was a rebel leader executed in 1653 Eoghan Rhuadh O'Neill was one of the Earls of Ulster who left Ireland in 'The Flight of the Earls' returned with 300 veterans to aid the Irish Rebellion of 1641 Lord Edward FitzGerald was an Irish aristocrat and revolutionary who died in Newgate Prison, Dublin of wounds received while resisting arrest on a charge of treason in during the 1798 rebellion Ref: Songs of Irish Rebellion. Georges-Denis Zimmermann 1967 |
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12 Sep 16 - 12:04 PM (#3809671) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Jeanette Cirignano Ohio/West Virginia The old gray mare she took off her underwear, out in the open air, said she didn't care! |
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07 Apr 17 - 11:12 PM (#3849384) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Guest, R. Layton, Western Pa She may be old and lean but she don't need gasoline she flips her tail at a ford and a cadillac runs like a maniac, jumps like a jumping jack the ole gray mare, she ain't what she use to be many long years ago. |
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08 Apr 17 - 01:22 PM (#3849487) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: Mark Ross Steve Goodman's THE 20TH CENTURY IS ALMOST OVER uses the tune of THE OLD GRAY MARE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ_3wJuLIdk Mark Ross |
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09 Apr 17 - 12:03 PM (#3849670) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Dave Hunt From my childhood...a long time ago! Here we sit like birds in the wilderness Birds in the wilderness, birds in the wilderness Here we sit like birds in the wilderness Down in Demerara |
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17 Sep 20 - 08:03 PM (#4072294) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST,Maggie in Canada Hahaha well the version I know is a tad bit different.. It was a skipping rope song where the next person would jump in as the grizzly bear .. The old grey mare was sittin in her rocking chair, chewin on her underwear. Along came a grizzly bear and pushed her out. ?? |
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09 Dec 21 - 12:22 PM (#4128492) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Parodies of 'The Old Gray Mare' From: GUEST My dad used to sing this: "The old Grey mare came a pootin down the the Delaware, pootin down the Delaware. The old Grey mare came a pootin down the Delaware, she pulled down her underwear to see what was under there." Pretty sure it was whatvthey sang in the school yard when he was a kid. I love this thread. I always wondered where it came from. |