Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please

12 Oct 09 - 05:18 PM (#2744435)
Subject: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Woven into a lot of the old-style (euro-dominated) message about Africa was Africa's supposed un-knowability. Yet the audiobook I am in right now has a LOT of well-researched info ranging (so far) from archaeological to historical, and probably beyond. What I lack is a good set of maps (pre-history to present) that I can laminate for study-- while doing this audbook in the water.

If I had a bookful of such maps I'd rip out the pages and laminate. I don;t even know what book I might want-- no decent real bookstore in our usual range, no budget for purchasing things I can't pick up and look at to evaluate.

If I had a better monitor I'd see what I want online and print that, to laminate.

Lacking these, I hope for Mudcat help and, preferably, a study partner as interested in Africa as I am. I plan to spend the whole winter on this, so I am not in a rush, except that right now I have ZERO and I'm far enough in the book to realize I can't get much farther till I have a decent set of maps. And I want to GET GOING! Cuz it's really interesting.

Anyone wanna join me?

~Susan

(I've posted elsewhere here about my general study plan.)

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12 Oct 09 - 05:25 PM (#2744441)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: John MacKenzie

Music?

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12 Oct 09 - 05:43 PM (#2744446)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Bruce MacNeill

Susan, this may be a dumb question but regardless of your monitor, do you have a decent printer? If so, can't you get what you want from Google Maps, at least as far as what is there now? I would have thought that the Internet, between Wiki and other encyclopedia sites would have more maps available than any single book or book store.

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12 Oct 09 - 05:55 PM (#2744455)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Bruce MacNeill

A quick search tells me that Northwestern University has a terrific set of maps from 1650 on that you can zoom in on and then print, like zoom in on a country and print it in fair detail, the get another country etc. Of course, the countries aren't what they were when I was in school which was shortly after 1650, so there are a lot of different maps. It looks like a good resource anyway.

Africa maps

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12 Oct 09 - 06:16 PM (#2744471)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Can't understand the problem with maps; there are more than anyone would want- geographic, satellite, demographic, etc. What kind specifically?
http://www.expertafrica.com/google_map_of_africa.asp
http://www.maplandia.com/africa

Pick a country- e. g. Algeria
http://www.multimap.com/world/DZ
http://travel.nationalgeographic.com/places/maps/map_country_algeria.html
Demographics-
http://www.intute.ac.uk/worldguide/html/804_people.html
Map of tribes and demographics-
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Algerian_people
General, relief
http://geography.about.com/library/maps/blalgeria.htm
Algeria and adjacent-
http://www.algeria.com/travel/maps.html (ignore aborted notice)
etc. etc. etc.

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12 Oct 09 - 06:25 PM (#2744475)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

(Not music, but really not BS either. Running more to folklore I would think.)


As I said, If I had a better monitor I'd see what I want online and print that, to laminate.

I DO have a decent printer, but without being able to SEE what y'all can see, it makes it hard to pick. I do have one tiny LCD monitor but with its size it's also hard to surf maps.... I did try to do this without a help request, but it wasn't working so... I.... created a thread.

I think unless I find a Catter who might share this interest, my request may not make a lot of sense. That';s OK00 not every req

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12 Oct 09 - 06:26 PM (#2744477)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

That's OK-- not every request here is instantly gratified.

~S~

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12 Oct 09 - 06:28 PM (#2744480)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Jack Campin

Googling "africa historical atlas" produces quite a few results.

This sort of thing?

http://www.zum.de/whkmla/histatlas/africa/haxafrica.html

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12 Oct 09 - 06:36 PM (#2744490)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Yup, if I could SEE them.....

~S~

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12 Oct 09 - 07:07 PM (#2744507)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Jack Campin

You have a visual impairment? You need historical geography in textual form?

How do you normally handle map-like information?

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12 Oct 09 - 08:58 PM (#2744566)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

I (A) have a visual impairment and (B) study while doing aquatic workouts and (C) have a crap monitor, as I have now twice said.

(Do we ask music requestors if rhey are tone deaf or can;t read notation?!?!?!)


This is the book I am doing in audio form:

http://www.amazon.com/Short-History-Africa-Roland-Oliver/dp/0786109874

I just ordered the paperback (used) in hopes it will have good illustrations. I would still welcome a study partner for this fascinating material.

~S~

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12 Oct 09 - 09:01 PM (#2744568)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: olddude

well if you go to any country there I will give you my hand held military grade GPS to get around. My youngest daughter when there with the UN a few years ago ...

Dan

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12 Oct 09 - 09:19 PM (#2744570)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Joe Offer

Well, maybe it fits better in the non-music section. Calling topography folklore, is a bit of a stretch.

-Joe-

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12 Oct 09 - 09:21 PM (#2744572)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Jack Campin

I (A) have a visual impairment and (B) study while doing aquatic workouts and (C) have a crap monitor, as I have now twice said.

The maps on the page I referred to are quite simple and low-res. Anything with a bitmap display should be able to make something of them. (I'm writing this on a twin-monitor system - one is an LCD screen that cost me 15 quid from a charity shop, the other is an old CRT that I got for free).


(Do we ask music requestors if rhey are tone deaf or can;t read notation?!?!?!)

If somebody's totally blind they need to be supplied with the information in a different form - my website is designed to do exactly that, and I've had it tested by totally blind users. It's not a silly question at all and I've put a great deal of effort into answering it. It is quite possible there are good solutions for displaying maps for the blind which might help you, but nobody will offer unless you say what the problem is.

BTW Mudcat has supplied tunes in audio file formats since it started, and has never supplied staff notation directly. If you ask for notation, ABC is the nearest you'll get, and more often the answer will be in MIDI.

One problem the site I gave you might have is with colour, if you're deuteranopic.

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13 Oct 09 - 09:30 AM (#2744887)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Fine by me, Joe; but it may look kinda silly down here when the historical, cultural stuff from my study gets posted along with song and story contributions. If that happens (and it will esp if I get a study-buddy) I hope we can move this back up and I also hope it doesn't garner too much silly stuff while it sits down here.

JC, I am not going to go into any more detail about the reason for my request. It is what it is. I still hope for some help and I have a moment now to refine the SUBJECTS for which I need 1-page, printable maps I can laminate.

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Maps Needed

The book I am starting with opens with pre-historical material about the first known traces on the continet of human beings. It goes from there to talk about how these earliest "stocks" (they purposely do not refer to separate "races") distributed from a somewhat central point and then, over time, dispersed thru the continent and surrounding areas in three increasingly-separate groups. That would be one map that would be helpful.

The next section addresses the advent of farming, and this is discussed in light of the topological features of the continent and how those affected the different paradigms of livestock domestication and the content of the different, typical diets.

What we used to call "cultural diffusion" in Hist. of World Civ. is also discussed.

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Both of these sections were heard in the water, so I did not make notes of the time periods they covered. I will be hearing them again tomorrow on a long drive (thus again not taking notes); the print copy of the book should arrive soon and by the time I get back from my next trip, I should have resources from which to add dates to the above.

The book format I could afford was paperback-- it may or may not be loaded with illustrations but they will most likely not be of a standard suitable for enlarging and laminating.

For the whole study-- the next 2-4 books in the planned study series will give a number of different perspectives on the history of Africa-- I will again want to be able to refer to the maps. In other words, it's a longterm project, worth assembling a good binderful of visual aids.

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When I am done, all of the material (including binder) will go into my social change lending library. The "help" I'm requesting will contribute to a longterm resource.

I'd like to think Mudcat might be a part of that. The rest of my social change library is multi-media (songs, movies, etc.). So I'd think this would be right up Mudcat's alley.

An essential factor in this library is that it doesn't need large amounts of money to come into being, to exist, and to circulate. It's totally from the bottom up. Again, sounds kinda Mudcatly, I think.

So-- again-- let's do Africa! :~)

~Susan

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13 Oct 09 - 09:38 AM (#2744898)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Mr Happy

Try your local library?

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13 Oct 09 - 10:21 AM (#2744932)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Jack Campin

Phyto-geographic regions of Africa:

http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/005/W4442E/w4442e03.jpg

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13 Oct 09 - 10:25 AM (#2744934)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Link produces:

date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 04:30:01 (local)
Linklint version: 2.3.5

#------------------------------------------------------------
# found 461 http links
#------------------------------------------------------------
http://abbott-infotech.co.za/vegetation-map-mod-3.gif
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/91/2/213/MCF185F1
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/mcm257v1/MCM257F1
http://aob.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/reprint/98/3/465
http://bgis.sanbi.org/STEP/vegetation.gif
http://bijh.zrc-sazu.si/bio/SI/Zbirke/400/400.asp
http://bijh.zrc-sazu.si/bio/SI/Zbirke/400/400_cela.jpg
http://biodiver.bio.ub.es/biocat/homepage.html


And goes on from there. If you saw my PM, JC, can you narrow it down to a couple of good ones, page-size?

~S~

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13 Oct 09 - 11:21 AM (#2744983)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: LilyFestre

The local library in town (Wboro and Man. have decent monitors, timed usage though). Local university library has GREAT monitors as well as many computer labs. Labs tend to be more busy but library in the AM is pretty much empty. If you can't see on their monitors, I'd be they could assist with that.

Michelle

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13 Oct 09 - 11:22 AM (#2744984)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: LilyFestre

er...I BET they could assist........

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13 Oct 09 - 11:29 AM (#2744987)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: maeve

Susan- National Geographic maps just as they came with the magazine? Many bookstores, and libraries give them away. They tend to range in focus (historical, trade, political, region, etc.) so might suit your needs, and you could laminate them, staple 'em on a bulletin board, whatever you find works best for you.

maeve

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13 Oct 09 - 11:50 AM (#2744998)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Mr. Happy-- Libraries-- wish I could get there. Not in the cards, unfortunately.

A request is a request is a request.

~Susan

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13 Oct 09 - 12:28 PM (#2745022)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: mouldy

I have a world map of about 1832 (I think) which shows the middle of Africa largely unexplored. If you want, I will scan it and send it to you, as best I can. It's longer than A4, but being a British map, that section (which includes Africa) is in the middle. I also have a similar period one of Africa itself, and I will happily scan that too.

For good paper maps, I can recognise the Michelin road maps. They got us from South Africa to Europe. The N. African Sahara one/s even have wells marked, their depth, and whether or not the water is drinkable.

Okay, they are from the Western point of view, but if they will help at all, you are most welcome.

Andrea

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13 Oct 09 - 01:13 PM (#2745057)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Soopurb. PM on the way. Thanks!

~Susan

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13 Oct 09 - 01:31 PM (#2745078)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Bill D

Here is a map of Africa from 1899 from a stamp collecting site. It could easily be enlarged & printed

(I used to collect stamps, and knew most of the older states and areas)

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13 Oct 09 - 01:38 PM (#2745084)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

DEAR Bill! That's a GOOD one. There's an 1890 one there too.

And I took Maeve's idea off to FreeCycle.

With one of the maps I end up with, I'm going to trace it in outline form and then sketch in what I think I'm learning-- see if a grease pencil will work in water (sharpies don't). And laminate that, too. (Who sez gownups can't homeschool themselves???) Unless someone beats me to it with a B/W outline of the whole continent.

I also discovered recently that my waterproof MP3 player will record good voice notes, right thru the plastic case.

~S~

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13 Oct 09 - 01:50 PM (#2745095)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: mouldy

recognise? I meant recommend! I think my brain's decamped to Africa again!

Andrea

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13 Oct 09 - 01:55 PM (#2745102)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Take mine alooooonnnnnggggg..............

Too late. I'm taking Africa and brain to Harrisburg.

~S~

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13 Oct 09 - 01:58 PM (#2745106)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)

"A request is a request is a request."

S - You sound frustrated at the responses you are getting from this thread. One of your other recent threads felt similarly confusing to respond to, as the OP lacked clarity. That wasn't a problem in that instance (and I do it to, when seeking general thoughts), but one of the probs you may have had in getting the specific response you seek on this thread, is in the similarly rambling style of your OP. Too much general chatter can obsfucate what is in fact a fairly simple and straightforward request (in this instance a *recommendation for paper history maps of Africa, that you can laminate*).

I'm not having a go at you BTW. Just thinking that if you are going to continue with posting questions concerning your current area of self directed study, it might be worth tightening up the phrasing of your questions to MC.
"Concision and precision", as one of my old teachers used to say.. ;-)

Anyways, good luck with the study partner, I actually rather like the idea of a virtual person to explore a mutual area of interest with. Unfortunately Africa ain't my thing tho'.

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13 Oct 09 - 02:41 PM (#2745151)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)

Maps are kewel...

A couple I have up on my walls:
Ancient Britain
UK Long Distance Paths
And one of Middle Earth...

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13 Oct 09 - 03:24 PM (#2745176)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

CS, I will take that in the spirit offered.

Mouldy's 3 scanned maps just arrived:

Andrea,

I'm rushing around to go out of town in the AM, but I downloaded your three maps and from the one I previewed, it's JUST what I wanted. It will be greatly motivating to re-hear the first 3 chapters on the drive, knowing I will come back to being able to print and laminate these to help make sense of the succeeding chapters.

THANK YOU! (I'm posting up to this part)

~Susan

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13 Oct 09 - 04:24 PM (#2745226)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Atlas of the Human Journey- Genographic project.

Based on DNA (Genetic markers), maps; also section on Highlights.

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html

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UNESCO
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/593
I have given the above for Indonesia, but from that page one can navigate to others

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13 Oct 09 - 04:48 PM (#2745249)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Gargoyle has posted the U. Texas site.
Here is a book with lotsa maps, "The Atlas of Early Man," used copies through Amazon for as little as $7.43.
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Ancient China - where civilization started. Maps and tables
http://www.chinaknowledge.de/History/Myth/prehistory-map.html

The Tang Dynasty map is especially interesting, showing that early Turks were to the West, who took many ideas to western Asia and eventually to Europe.

(Most histories of 'civilization' ignore the importance and contributions of the Eastern civilizations. Also search for India prehistory, etc., and find out about its cultural history. Of course these sites only have the bare bones, but there is some scholarly material as well.)

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13 Oct 09 - 04:53 PM (#2745251)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: LilyFestre

Agreeing with Gargoyle.

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13 Oct 09 - 05:00 PM (#2745261)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Africa
Ancient Africa with map of Nubia. Nubian history important.
Lotsa stuff here including discussion of Egyptian Lute.

http://wysinger.homestead.com/ancientafrica.html

Some sections, including African Influence in Ancient America are nonsensical, but interesting.

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13 Oct 09 - 05:28 PM (#2745282)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Very helpful, Q. Thanks.

~S~

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14 Oct 09 - 10:01 AM (#2745515)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

I'll be away the next few days. Refreshes of this thread in my absence will be appreciated.

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I received some excellent general map scans from Mouldy. I'm still seeking maps in the subject areas mentioned above, for the next chapters in my study plan.

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I don't have a study-buddy yet, but I did get a description of one route taken on a whirlwind jaunt. I'll be tracing that route in my study and if anyone else here has done a jaunt, I'd love to trace that route, too.

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I made a concise, specific request via our local FreeCycle group. It includes some homeschoolers, so I may not only get maps to swap and a study-buddy, but it may well be a yoot study-buddy-- that would be cool, and if such a person wanders in here I'll ask that they be treated respectfully-- tho this thread IS still in the rough and tumble BS section.

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I've also sent a couple of PMs to people who may not understand the circuitous route my BRAIN takes these days to narrow my focus down to specific interests. (See 'Small Strokes' thread.)

Thanks again for positive helps in response to my requests.


~Susan

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14 Oct 09 - 12:50 PM (#2745672)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: mouldy

Glad to help. Just got to get the maps back into their frames again now!

I'll keep my eyes peeled for anything else that might be of use.

Andrea

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14 Oct 09 - 07:29 PM (#2746058)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Jack Campin

No comment on the phytogeography map I gave a link to? (Since that sets limits to what kind of culture is possible in a region, it's directly relevant to the ancient history you're reading at present). At 219K it isn't that big, and it's fairly uncluttered.

If you won't tell us what specifically is wrong with suggestions offered, how can we suggest anything better?

(I once played for some morris dancers who used an incredibly limited repertoire of tunes. Playing those every week on the same instrument was dull as fuck, considering I wasn't being paid to do it. But most of the alternatives I came up with to add variety were rejected with NO, THAT'S WRONG - with no hint of *how* they might be wrong. I gave up in despair. This is feeling like a rather similar experience).

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18 Oct 09 - 06:40 PM (#2747531)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

JC, see my post immediately below your phyto link-- it led not to a photo but to a directory of text links. NOW it goes to a photo, which looks at first glance to be useful. But I have been away for several days (as I indicated I would be) and have not yet had a chance to see that jpeg on the best monitor in the house, which happens to sit in a room my husband is in the midst of painting and is, therefore, all unplugged at the moment.

Given the pace of life in this busy (exhausted) pastors' house, instant gratification may be no more realistic for you, in this thread, than it is for me. I appreciate the help, but a request is a request is a request. If helping with it isn't floating your boat, I'm sorry.

~Susan

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19 Oct 09 - 08:24 PM (#2748408)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

The paperback book I ordered came today.

I'll have to enlarge the small 1-page maps it has but they look to be good, if fewer in number than I had hoped. I have all I need for now.

When I have used the maps provided so far to visualize the initial chapters of this book, THEN I will know what else I may need and I should-- because now I have the text to go with the audbook-- be able to be pretty specific about features and time periods for which a map would be useful.

I'm also looking for a good used copy of the longer second book to see what it may have.

~Susan

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30 Oct 09 - 09:34 AM (#2755611)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Hardi and I have been on the hop all week (doing funerals). I just got the maps laminated, but have not had a chance to get to the pool to resume the audiobook I'm on.

If anyone is interested, this Public Domain audiobook just was posted as completed, at Librivox, here: http://librivox.org/travels-in-west-africa-by-mary-kingsley/

An excerpt from the narrator's description of the book:


Travels in West Africa
by Mary H. Kingsley

    Mary Henrietta Kingsley (13 October 1862 – 3 June 1900) was an British explorer and writer who greatly influenced European ideas about Africa and its people. Kingsley was an outspoken critic of European colonialism, a champion for indigenous customs, and a dedicated campaigner for a revised British policy which supported traders and merchants over the needs of settlers and missionaries.

More links at the book's catalog page at Librivox.

~Susan

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26 Dec 09 - 12:33 AM (#2796514)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

aNYBUDDY GOT ENOUGH gERMAN TO TELL ME WHAT THIS MAP sorry capslock

shows?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.diercke.de/bilder/omeda/501/100700_133_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.diercke.de/kartenansicht.xtp%3FartId%3D978-3-14-100700-8%26seite%3D133%26id%3D5078%26kartennr%3D1&usg=__dNePjbxPtevH9iCbTXlrkyseqYM=&h=500&w=437&sz=42&hl=en&start=51&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=9B7N93-IY2QkBM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPhyto%2Bgeographic%2Bregions%2Bof%2BAfrica%26tbnid%3DnRHoDJOyoDFHnM:%26imgtype%3Di_similar%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D36%26tbnh%3D0%26tbnw%3D0%26um%3D1

~S~

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26 Dec 09 - 12:36 AM (#2796516)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Here comes the folklore....

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://afrikadawn.com/graphics/africa-map2007.jpg&imgrefurl=http://afrikadawn.com/africa/newmap.html&usg=__2DbcSUXEkAL0DJXcDdD92dD7Xlk=&h=752&w=780&sz=172&hl=en&start=57&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=iQRhZ5hnkvHj9M:&tbnh=137&tbnw=142&prev=/images%3Fq%3DPhyto%2Bgeographic%2Bregions%2Bof%2BAfrica%26tbnid%3DnRHoDJOyoDFHnM:%26imgtype%3Di_similar%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26start%3D54%26tbnh%3D0%26tbnw%3D0%26um%3D1

~S~

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26 Dec 09 - 12:38 AM (#2796517)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Sorry-- this corrects post just previous:

Folklore: http://afrikadawn.com/africa/sande.html

~S~

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26 Dec 09 - 12:51 AM (#2796519)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Anyone know what this would be about?

http://www.desert-info.ch/desert-info-forum/viewtopic.php?t=3295

~S~

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26 Dec 09 - 01:29 PM (#2796767)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: GUEST,Ebbie, away from home, house/dog sitting

Susan, I suspect this question is a non-applicable one but it occurred to me to wonder whether your audio books would have a 'maps included' feature?

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26 Dec 09 - 01:53 PM (#2796777)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: Bill D

translate.google.com says: "in cooperation with our Mapmaniac Werner Lenz, we are just about to calibrate the following sets of maps in ECW format. "

ECW (Enhanced Compression Wavelet) is a proprietary wavelet compression image format optimized for aerial and satellite imagery. It was developed by Earth Resource Mapping, and is now owned by Leica Geosystems[1]. The lossy compression format efficiently compresses very large images with fine alternating contrast.

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03 Jan 10 - 03:06 PM (#2802352)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Thanks, Bill.

Eb, thanks-- no.

Here's a fine one I found in one late-night grab-session: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.lexvold.com/resources/africa/Africaatlas.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.lexvold.com/resources.html&usg=__h9xLxDtOF-HEJZN79cpQJbcEhwk=&h=706&w=545&sz=139&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=pJWbgubb4Qc5yM:&tbnh=140&tbnw=108&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dafricaatlas.gif%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

I like that it gives me several all on page--easy to print and laminate. Yes, I know I can toss several maps onto a single page-- this one happened to already have much of what I wanted and anything that saves me steps-- saves me eyestrain.


NOW I am on a flatpanel monitor, with good resolution, that's already let me spend one whole night coasting thru Google images. Talk about eye candy!

I'll still appreciate any help offered, but I think I got most of what I needed and now that the computer attached to the good monitor is finally online---- Ahhhhhhhhhh {happy sigh].

~Susan

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04 Jan 10 - 07:39 AM (#2802876)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: GUEST,KP

This book is just what you need - sorry I didn't spot this thread earlier!
KP
Penguin Atlas of African History

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04 Jan 10 - 08:38 AM (#2802910)
Subject: RE: Let's Do Africa-- Map Helps Please
From: wysiwyg

Thanks!

When I spent that eye-candy night, I noticed that all the colored maps' bands were installing themselves in my memory and my brain was spontaneously starting to try to correlate them. There was one really intriguingly shaped "puzzle piece" that did NOT correlate with any others I saw. That ONE is really bugging me, but the subject matter it mapped was troubling in itself. I hesitate to mention it here because I know that as soon as I do, I will unleash a stream of reactivity into this thread.

If anyone can help on that, please PM for private handling of the subject, with email for a large photo attachment.

~Susan

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