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12 Nov 09 - 02:23 PM (#2764953) Subject: Wassail/pace egg song From: Tug the Cox Before I ever learnt the Pace Egg song, I heard a wassail song with the chorus We're one two three jolly boys all in one line We have come a wassailing and we hope you prove kind And we hope you prove kind, with your cakes and strong beer And we'll come no more nigh you until the next year. I've never heard or seen it since. Is it authentic, or did I witness someone adapting an existing song for a christmas folk club? |
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12 Nov 09 - 02:56 PM (#2764964) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Terry McDonald Isn't it on the Watersons' 'Frost and Fire' album? |
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12 Nov 09 - 03:30 PM (#2764981) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: BB Yep. |
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12 Nov 09 - 03:34 PM (#2764986) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Jack Blandiver Nope! |
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13 Nov 09 - 05:31 AM (#2765298) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Arnie Tug - I've also heard this song many years ago, it's definitely familiar. Not something the Spinners did is it?? |
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13 Nov 09 - 05:34 AM (#2765299) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Les in Chorlton Was ale taken? L in C or : OM V if you miss the right keys |
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13 Nov 09 - 05:59 AM (#2765310) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Terry McDonald Yes! It's on Frost and Fire as the Pace Egging Song. After the verse cited by Tug it continues with 'The first to come in is Lord Nelson you see, with a bunch of blue ribbons tied about his right knee... |
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13 Nov 09 - 06:08 AM (#2765313) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Les in Chorlton True enough but does it go: We're one two three jolly boys all in one line We have come a wassailing and we hope you prove kind L in C with clearly nothing better to do |
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13 Nov 09 - 06:11 AM (#2765315) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: GUEST,Ed Is it authentic What on earth do you mean by 'authentic'? |
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13 Nov 09 - 06:15 AM (#2765318) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Jack Blandiver There is no mention of wassailing in the Waterson's Pace Egging Song. See: http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/watersons/songs/paceeggingsong.html |
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13 Nov 09 - 06:23 AM (#2765322) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Terry McDonald Ah! It is, of course, pace egging not wassailing. It's clearly the same song but I assume Tug's memory has replaced a key word! |
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13 Nov 09 - 12:00 PM (#2765350) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Jack Blandiver More likely some adaptation of it, Terry - the sort of thing I haven't been above in the past myself I must confess, passing it off as the folk process, or whatever! |
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13 Nov 09 - 03:09 PM (#2765485) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Little Robyn I've heard it somewhere too. I agree, it's probably an adaptation of the Pace egging song to fit someone's Christmas singing. There may have been some slightly different words to make the verses fit a different season but I can't remember now. Robyn |
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13 Nov 09 - 03:17 PM (#2765490) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Little Robyn Hi Tug, I have an idea it was included in a Mummers play. They tend to have snippets of songs adapted to fit the circumstances. For example, I once heard "We'll have a jovial wedding..." sung to the tune of "Land of Hope and Glory". Were you in an area that had Morris dancers and Mummers? Robyn |
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13 Nov 09 - 03:33 PM (#2765500) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Dave the Gnome In Harland and Wilkinsons 'Lancashire Legends' there is a play listed as 'The Pace Egg Mummers' which seems to be somewhat of a analogy, seeing as Pace Egg is at Easter but Mumming is a Christmas tradition. It is identical to the Lancaster and Abram Pace Egg plays but for mentions of Christmas. I think it shows that as far back as when Messers H & W were collecting these traditions there was a blurred line between them. If the play, song or tradition is good enough to perform in one season it would have been carried over to another. So the Wassail / Pace Egg song probably had the same root but became customised for the current season. Now, as to which came first it is anyones guess! Cheers DeG |
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13 Nov 09 - 03:40 PM (#2765505) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Dave the Gnome PS - Lancashire Legends is now online D. |
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14 Nov 09 - 02:34 PM (#2766048) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Tug the Cox Thanks all, ( apafrt from gurst Ed who clearly needs a dictionary.) I'm glad others have heard it, I probably heard it from a mummers play at a folk club. The other verses were as per the Watersons. Anyone want top own up as 'author'? |
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15 Nov 09 - 02:59 AM (#2766293) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: Dave the Gnome I think it was written by the famous songster 'Trad Arr'... :D |
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15 Nov 09 - 12:28 PM (#2766467) Subject: RE: Wassail/pace egg song From: BB Suibhne O'Piobaireachd, you are of course quite correct - an adaptation of same. Barbara |