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27 Jul 99 - 01:12 PM (#99777) Subject: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Angus McSweeney I'm one of the old guys - Bob Gibson, Pete Seeger, Tom Paxton, etc, etc, up to John Prine and Steve Goodman. That's just about where my knowledge of new folk style singer/songwriters tails off. It didn't used to bother me, but the young fellow across the street started playing guitar after seeing me in a couple of coffee house gigs - he worked hard, got a nice guitar and I'm pleased (almost proud) to say that he's very popular at some of the local places now. We talk about getting together for a jam, but when I asked him what music he's playing he answered with a list of folks I've never heard of! And I didn't write any of them down! So how about some of you Hip Catter's (Hipcats? My kids cringe when I use words like that, Daddy-o. I never did when I was young, but it sure is fun to bother them now - so, like totally, way UNCOOL!) -help me out. (Sorry about the digression, but those of you who have heard from me before know it's my way) Let me try again: I would like to know who's hot in folk music today! It just might give me a chance to learn some new songs. Who do you like? |
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27 Jul 99 - 01:23 PM (#99784) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Paul S John Prine's still good (but different). Don't know much else. I'm into the old guys too. |
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27 Jul 99 - 01:35 PM (#99788) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Vixen I've been getting into Richard Shindell, Hugh Blumenfeld, Andrew Calhoun, Greg Brown, Vance Gilbert, John Gorka. Have you listened to any Jack Hardy? Try our own Rick Fielding and Art Thieme--(I just got my first CD of each, and I'm delighted with both). Lest I sound gender-biased, for women-folks, I've been listening to Kate Wolf, Nanci Griffith, Shawn Colvin, Cheryl Wheeler, and Indigo Girls. They're not strictly folk in the traditional sense, but in the sense they are writing songs that are accessible and memorable, they're doing it. Just so you know what my early musical pleasures were, I was raised on Woody, Pete, Weavers, Zimmerman, Joan, Joni, Leadbelly, and Odetta. V |
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27 Jul 99 - 01:45 PM (#99794) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Bert Sue Trainor, Allen Damron |
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27 Jul 99 - 01:49 PM (#99797) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Bert Oops, mustn't forget our Shambles - Roger Gall. Search for some of his stuff in these threads. |
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27 Jul 99 - 02:06 PM (#99805) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Frank of Toledo Jack Hardy has a compilation of 10 CD's covering over 20 years of original songs, which are mostly steeped in traditional form and content; and Gillian Welch is surely one to give some time to. One particular song by Jack Hardy is the "Tinker"s Coin". This song in time will be a folk classic....... |
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27 Jul 99 - 02:09 PM (#99806) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Mike Strobel Dear Angus, Some fellows & gales you should listen to : Andrew Calhoun, Kat Eggleston, Ralph McTell, Andy M. Stewart, fellow Mudcatters : Rick Fielding & Art Thieme............., Small Potatoes, The Kennedy's, Lui Collins, Dana Robinson, Fiddlers on the Green, Dave Carter & Tracy Krammer, Erica Wheeler, David Massengale, Michael Smith & Louise Taylor. |
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27 Jul 99 - 02:10 PM (#99807) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: AllisonA(Animaterra) Vixen, it sounds as thought you've just been to a folk festival or something! (Grin!) Me, too! Angus, your young friend is paying you a high compliment- getting inspiration from you and then using it to find his own way. More contemporarysingersongwriters who are hip and withit are Dar Williams, Cliff Eberhart, Cheryl Wheeler, Lisa McCormick, Ellis Paul... hmmmm, better go check the latest Singout... None of these are trad in any sense of the world, and trad is where my heart lies. But these folks are often witty, fine musicians and fun to listen to. Enjoy- Allison |
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27 Jul 99 - 02:11 PM (#99808) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Neil Lowe There are so many that probably don't fit someone's strict definition of "folk".....But I think Tracy Chapman, Ani DiFranco, and Beth Orton are usually mentioned in the same sentence with the "f" word....they are more commercially oriented, too. |
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27 Jul 99 - 05:04 PM (#99874) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: MAG (inactive) Am I the only one in the world who finds Andrew Calhoun's "Folksingers are Boring" a wee bit condescending ... and ... boring??? MA |
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27 Jul 99 - 05:16 PM (#99876) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Llanfair Try the 2nd generation Liza Carthy, her mum and dad are my vintage. Ralph McTell is popular, my son does some of his stuff. I still love Steeleye Span, they always have something "new" on the go. I shouldn't worry, the stuff we do is coming back into fashion, what goes around comes around!! Hwyl, Bron. |
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27 Jul 99 - 05:33 PM (#99885) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Mike Strobel Dear MAG, If you were to know Andrew Calhoun very well ( and I can say , I do ) you will realize 3 things: He is Brilliant, He is the most considerate , yet bashful person in the world and he never wastes words on small talk.........................I wish so many others,artists and myself alike....would think before we speak as Andrew often does ...............just listen to his songs.......... |
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27 Jul 99 - 05:35 PM (#99886) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: John of the Hill 3 albums I keep going back to are: Tom Russell "The Man From Who Knows Where"; Jez Lowe "The Parish Notices"; and Sean Tyrell "Cry Of The Dreamer." |
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27 Jul 99 - 06:13 PM (#99915) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Bill D *grin*...as resident 'purist snob' and 'folk facist', I'm reporting this thread to the Folk Police!...You all will be sentenced to listen to Roscoe Holcomb and Sara Cleveland doing loooonnng ballads about country virtues! |
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27 Jul 99 - 06:36 PM (#99920) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Angus McSweeney Hey folks, this information is great! I knew I could count on the folks at mudcat...but it's still early in the evening...let's hear from some more. When this thread starts to sink I'm going to print it off and head for the Homestead Pickin' Parlor for some knew CD's! Oh, by the way Vixen (and I don't call too many peolple by that name!), Greg Brown won't work. He's an old friend of mine -we used to sit in my kitchen in Iowa City and trade tunes -I was working as a college graduate carpenter two blocks away and I'd rush home over the noon hour to play guitar. The other fellow in this jam was Chuck Henderson - a great guitar player who later played in the "Greg Brown Band" - yes, there was such a thing - I've still got the tapes. We're going back to 1970-73 to get back in that kitchen. Anyway, thank you one and all! |
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27 Jul 99 - 06:55 PM (#99927) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Bryant I heartily second the mention above of Gillian Welsh. She writes songs that you will swear must be a revamped Appalachian murder ballads but are entirely her own creation. Solid guitar playing (particularly from her partner, David Rawlings) and dead-on 2 part harmony. I think even Bill D. and Art T. might like this stuff. Her two albums (CDs, whatever) so far are entitled Revival and Hell Among the Yearlings.
Some other bands folkies might like:
Uncle Tupelo (and offshoots -- Son Volt and Wilco) Oh, Bill D. I'll sit down and spend a day listening to Roscoe Holcomb w/you any ole time :-)
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27 Jul 99 - 07:19 PM (#99934) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: campfire I'll add to the support of many of those above - Andrew Calhoun, Small Potatoes, Nanci Griffith and Cheryl Wheeler especially. In addition, look for L. J. Booth (just played Falcon Ridge for, I beleive, the second year) and, on the feminine side, Cosy Sheridan. I saw Cosy about a year and a half ago and left with ALL of her CDs. Her first four CDs are available through Waterbug - like Art's (there must be a link around here somewhere...) The last one is not. I also recently saw Turkey Hollow Consort - which is Tom Rowe from Schooner Fare, his son Dave Rowe, and Denny Breau. They were very entertaining. This is a great thread - I'll be looking for those mentioned that I'm not familiar with. campfire |
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27 Jul 99 - 11:25 PM (#99999) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Bugsy Try Jez Lowe. |
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28 Jul 99 - 09:22 AM (#100102) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Peter T. Lucinda Williams has been around for awhile, but I am still surprised at how few people know about her. yours, Peter T. |
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28 Jul 99 - 09:55 AM (#100116) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Mudjack Angus, A bit newer than those you mentioned are Guy Clark, Townes Van Zant, Robert Earl Keene,David Massingill, Bob Franke, already mentioned Tom Russell. These are all great writers and have yet to be main stream big dollar success stories. Which is likely the reason I admire them so much. Mudjack |
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28 Jul 99 - 11:40 AM (#100159) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: campfire also see "Undiscovered Talent" |
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28 Jul 99 - 06:47 PM (#100294) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: rich r Angus, if you're going down to the Homestead Pickin Parlor, get some Neal & Leandra (several CDs on Redhouse). Another littleknow fine duo is Wilson & McKee out of Montana. Chuck Suchy from North Dakota writes some great songs about rural America. I don't recall if anyone has mentioned a couple Canadians, James Keelaghan and Connie Kaldor both fine writers and singers. Also check out Chuck Brodsky and Lucy Kaplansky. I will probably think of more folk impurities later. rich r |
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28 Jul 99 - 11:12 PM (#100344) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: TonyK I'm an old John Prine and Steve Goodman fan, too, and I'm now listening to many of the aforementioned in this thread especially Cheryl Wheeler,Michael Smith, Gorka, Keelehan, and Hardy. I especially like Anne Hills, Christine Lavin for her wit, David Wilcox for his sensitive lyrics and Martin Simpson for his outstanding guitar work. Greg Brown tops my list. |
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28 Jul 99 - 11:26 PM (#100346) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Susan A-R Just don't trust my spelling, it's all suspect. John McCutchon, Duggie Maclean, Cindy Callet, Gordon Bok, June Tabor, |
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29 Jul 99 - 11:05 PM (#100695) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Tom on Comfort A lot of these folks ain't exactly "new" they just haven't become incredibly commercial successes, so the joy of discovering them is just around the corner for many (there were some names here I'd never heard of --& now I'll go off & check 'em out, thank you very much). Or maybe this is still a big world, & it takes some time for news of somebody to get around. It's a good thing there ain't nobody heard EVERYTHING, I think. Oh & let me call to mind some more good ones, writing songs in a political vein frequently, Charlie King, Si Kahn, & Len Wallace have been stoking them rabble-rousing fires for years with wit, & good poetry, & grace. See ya--Tom |
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22 Oct 00 - 03:44 PM (#324674) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: John Hardly Just had the joy of watching Dave Carter and Tracy Grammer open for Cheryl Wheeler last evening. As it turned out it seemed more like Cheryl Wheeler closed for Carter and Grammer. As good as Wheeler's set was Carter and Grammer caught the croud by surprise--not many initiated. They were WONDERFUL!. Wasn't sure which thread to resurrect to give the heads up--they might be in your area soon!--John Hardly |
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22 Oct 00 - 04:38 PM (#324712) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: RWilhelm There are precious few contemporary songwriters in the same class as those mentioned by Angus McSweeney. I agree with Peter T. that Lucinda Williams is just beginning to get the credit she deservers. I thing she is the most honest songwriter working today in any genre. |
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22 Oct 00 - 04:46 PM (#324718) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Morticia how about Richard Thompson,Christy Moore , Nic Jones and Dick Gaughan from this side of the pond? |
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22 Oct 00 - 04:59 PM (#324736) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Lucinda Williams Memo to Earl: I'm not a new songwriter. I'm 47 years old and made my first album 21 years ago. |
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22 Oct 00 - 05:02 PM (#324738) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Richard Thompson Memo to Morticia: I'm not a new songwriter. I'm 51 years old and wrote my first song more than 30 years ago. |
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22 Oct 00 - 05:04 PM (#324743) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Christy Moore Memo to Morticia: I'm 55 years old and remember when Richard Thompson was a new singer/songwriter. |
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22 Oct 00 - 05:07 PM (#324745) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Dick Gaughan Memo to Morticia: I'm 52 years old. You must be ancient if you think that I'm new. |
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22 Oct 00 - 05:09 PM (#324746) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Nic Jones Memo to Morticia: A) I'm as old as those other guys. B) I'm not even a songwriter. |
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22 Oct 00 - 05:11 PM (#324748) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: bflat Mary Gauthier, fresh and making a splash, a female John Prine. www.marygauthier.com bflat
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22 Oct 00 - 06:25 PM (#324812) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,Ivan Sorry I'm a bit late joining in on this thread but I'm surprised no-one has mentioned Lucy Kaplansky and Stacey Earle. Also, in the UK Kate Rusby has a lot of "street cred" and although she does mostly traditional stuff she has written a few songs herself. (At least one of her CDs has been released in the USA by Green Linnet records). Billy Bragg is also a good source - if you don't know his music it is a bit "folk-punk" but he has also recently "collaborated" with Woody Guthrie (i.e. finished songs Woody was working on in his last years). I think the album is called Mermaid Avenue or something similar. Ps. I'm almost as old as Christy Moore but I haven't stopped being a teenager just yet.
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22 Oct 00 - 06:43 PM (#324836) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Cobble Help I'm 52 too. Heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp. |
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22 Oct 00 - 07:01 PM (#324841) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Cobble It"s all right panic over, Im going to live till Im 250 years old I forgot. Phew... |
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22 Oct 00 - 07:19 PM (#324848) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Thyme2dream gee, amazing number of folk artists visiting the 'Cat today...uh, correct me if Im wrong, but when you put it in the context of Pete Seegar, etc...Thompson & Gaughin are both still young? On the Country music side of things-because every now and then someone slips into the loop there that really CAN write songs: Hal Ketcham-- he hasn't done much lately that has interested me, but his first CD 'Past the Point of Rescue' is worth a listen. Steve Earle--a strange cat, but he really has a folkie soul...his newest CD with 'Galway Girl' is really nice, although I can't recall the title of it just now. AS for the folk from across the pond,I'd put in a hearty second for anything by Richard Thompson, Dick Gaughan, Kate Rusby, and add(cos I didn't see him yet)Dougie Maclean! |
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22 Oct 00 - 07:48 PM (#324879) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: MichaelAnthony Two folks that I recommend are Elliot Smith (Good Will Hunting soundtrack) and Aimee Mann (Magnolia soundtrack). |
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22 Oct 00 - 08:53 PM (#324943) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,celticblues5 an aside, after the mention of Pete Seeger - a couple of women from my storytelling group sat with him on the plane to Jonesborough. i think they said he's 81 - they said he seemed pleased by all the fuss they made over him - he said he wished so many women had made that kind of fuss back when he was 21 - ! ;-) the rewards of becoming a legend....... |
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22 Oct 00 - 09:11 PM (#324960) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Little Hawk Oh, man, it's endless. Eileen McGann and David K. Cathy Miller. Wendell Ferguson. Kathryn Wheatley. Erin Benjamin. (all of those are Canadian). Shawn Colvin. Mary Chapin Carpenter. Tish Hinojosa. Jann Arden. My suggestion is go to a few folk festivals next summer and you will find out that there are so many new singer-songwriters that it boggles the mind...plus you will have a great time listening to hundreds of songs that you will NEVER |
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22 Oct 00 - 09:12 PM (#324962) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Little Hawk Oh, man, it's endless. Eileen McGann and David K. Cathy Miller. Wendell Ferguson. Kathryn Wheatley. Erin Benjamin. (all of those are Canadian). Shawn Colvin. Mary Chapin Carpenter. Tish Hinojosa. Jann Arden. My suggestion is go to a few folk festivals next summer and you will find out that there are so many new singer-songwriters that it boggles the mind...plus you will have a great time listening to hundreds of amazing songs that you will NEVER hear on your f**king commercial radio stations. |
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22 Oct 00 - 11:50 PM (#325075) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: RWilhelm All those famous folks are right. None of these songwriters are young or new unless you compare them to Pete Seeger. |
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23 Oct 00 - 12:38 AM (#325096) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,CraigS I'm in England and it's absolutely crawling with new singer-songwriters over here. I just thought I'd mention a couple who are classifiable as intermediate to old, but not known in the US : 1) David Qualey , who is an American, lives and works in Germany, and is probably the same age as Richard Thompson - this man is worth listening to. 2) Pete Morton, who is English, about thirty, and writes good songs. |
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23 Oct 00 - 01:01 AM (#325103) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Clinton Hammond2 Stephen Fearing Find his stuff... {~` |
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23 Oct 00 - 05:42 AM (#325166) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Fred/Forsh Wow, christy moore and richard thompson ......on these pages.....! I feel so privaleged! Personnaly, I like that other new songwriter, Vin Garbutt, you may have heared of him. Dave Forshaw(aka Fred) By the way....Anyone on this thread who knew my Dad Alan Forshaw, Please get in touch David.john.forshaw@talk21.com |
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23 Oct 00 - 06:05 AM (#325167) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Catrin And I was going to say Billy bragg - But Ivan beat me to it. Billy Bragg was approached by Woddy Guthrie's Daughter and asked to put tunes to some of the hundreds of songs woody left behind when he died. (He kept the tunes in his head). The reason she chose Billy Bragg to do this was, she said, because they both wrote about the same types of issues. It seemed fitting to ask Billy to do it. The result is a collection of moving, timeless, songs. Well done Billy! Cheers, Catrin |
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23 Oct 00 - 11:46 AM (#325314) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: StandingBear (inactive) Check out Spook Handy. NJ-based singer songwriter; His CD "Freedom Is Your Destiny" has some wonderful stuff on it. Go to your local Borders bookshop/CD store and get it; it's there. If your particular one does not have it, they can order it as it is a part of their regular stock. (by the way, Thompson, Williams etc.? LOVE YA!! GREAT STUFF!! Rescued me from the bondage of 80's pop and (shudder) rap. Peace on you, 'Bear
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23 Oct 00 - 12:38 PM (#325352) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Whistle Stop Well, I was most of the way through this thread before anyone mentioned Steve Earle -- in my opinion the greatest songwriter working today (although some days I'd give the edge to Richard Thompson; and Bob Dylan is still working, but his current stuff doesn't meet the standards he set in years past). Craig -- Is this the same David Qualey who did an acoustic (nylon string) guitar album on Windham Hill back in the early-mid 80's? It's not that common a name, and I think the liner notes said he was an American living in Germany. It was a pretty good album, more substantive than a lot of the New Age wallpaper that was being put out at the time. But it sure wasn't singer-songwriter stuff. I always wondered what happened to him. |
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24 Oct 00 - 02:39 AM (#325887) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: GUEST,CraigS That sounds like the man, but I can't be certain. OK, he doesn't sing much, but he deserves mentioning. He made two albums in the Seventies which were hard to get, even then. About five years ago someone played me a bad tape of one of them and asked me if I knew anything. I checked through someone I know and found he was still working in Germany, and was given his agent's address. I gave this to the guy who'd asked me - he works for the BBC, so I figured he could do his own research. Anyway, he didn't follow it up. I did, much later, and found the agent had given up the business and couldn't help as Mr Qualey had moved house. Trail gone cold unless I rattle cages again! |
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24 Oct 00 - 05:45 PM (#326375) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Max Tone Try also Jim Malcolm -either solo, with his band Rohallion, or as Old Blind Dogs' new frontman. Karine Polwart (Malinky and recently joined Battlefield Band, 'cos Davy Steele's ill) Sandy Wright (Russell's House), not to mention the great Martin Stephenson. Rob |
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24 Oct 00 - 05:47 PM (#326377) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: mousethief Bruce Cockburn from before about 1981.
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24 Oct 00 - 06:28 PM (#326434) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Robo One listen to Tim O'Brien's "The Crossing" won't be your last! And don't forget Guy Clark, older than many and better than most. |
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25 Oct 00 - 05:58 AM (#326806) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Thyme2dream OH YES! Another vote for Jim Malcolm...his 'Battle of Waterloo' is quite haunting, a nice version on Old Blind Dogs CD 'The World's Room'. Rob-O? Have you heard Tim O'Brien with the group New Grange?? They are going to be playing in Kansas City next month and I'm wondering if I should go along to the concert...I really liked what I've heard of The Crossing, and have been meaning to buy it soon. |
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25 Oct 00 - 05:00 PM (#327205) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Ely Iris DeMent, Jean Ritchie (who isn't new, either, but the old ones are still good). There's a band called Freakwater that's really good, one of their singers writes a lot of the material.
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25 Oct 00 - 06:04 PM (#327275) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Susan from California How 'bout Patti Griffin? Her song "Poor Man's House" is a keeper, as are many others. Ditto to many of the above, and now getting into my flameproof suit :-) what about Springsteen? BRUUUUUCE! |
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25 Oct 00 - 06:19 PM (#327283) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Robo Thyme2 . . . Haven't seen Tim O'Brien with New Grange, but must look into it. Do go see them and fill us in. Did catch Tim's show with the Crossing band here in Denver . . . Kevin Burke, Darrell Scott et al . . . put on an absolutely tremendous show! Great voices, musicianship and songs! Do yourself a favor -- get the CD! -- Rob-o |
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25 Oct 00 - 06:27 PM (#327291) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Lonesome Gillette The BEST folk band of all time... drum roll please... Barely Bipedal, from Tucson AZ Check 'em out daddy-o |
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25 Oct 00 - 07:04 PM (#327329) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Amos Andrew Calhoun is one of the sweetest gents anyone ever met; and not condescending in any respect. His "Water Street" and a dozen others are really beautiful songs. "FOlksingers are Boring" is perhaps a throwaway, and you need to bear in mind also it was written years back, and perhaps needed to be said if only to relieve his irritation with some of the audiences he has had to sing to over the years. Two cents' worth for whoever wishes it. Very best to y'all, Amos |
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26 Oct 00 - 12:44 PM (#327840) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: MikeofNorthumbria Anybody else rate the Austin Lounge Lizards? (If you haven't heard them, imagine a "Tom Lehrer meets the Eagles" session - and if that idea sounds attractive, go out and buy "Employee of the Month") Wassail! |
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26 Oct 00 - 09:03 PM (#328193) Subject: RE: Request for new singers/songwriters From: Art Thieme Andrew is a fine fellow and that's a definite. It's been great working with him in recent years. I also think he's a fine poet (even if he does look at the world through morose colored glasses on occasion.) The previously mentioned album WATERSTREET was Andrew's first one and is still probably my favorite. He's centered out of Oregon now and those of you who see him be sure to let him know he's loved back in the Midwest. Art Thieme |