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07 Mar 10 - 12:56 PM (#2858422) Subject: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: mikesamwild Maybe for England football (soccer) fans ? John Terry is in the team and did a Tiger Woods What songs would Harry have sung for his wayward Great Grandson ?.. I'd have told him to keep that Long Peggin' Awl in his shorts |
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07 Mar 10 - 01:22 PM (#2858458) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: The Sandman long peggin awl. |
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07 Mar 10 - 02:31 PM (#2858484) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Ruth Archer Pretty sure this was de-bunked recently. |
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07 Mar 10 - 05:16 PM (#2858605) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Derek Schofield This story (Terry having Harry Cox as his great granddad) appeared on Terry's Wikipedia site some time ago, but then disappeared soon after. Looking at Harry Cox's family history in the Topic CD booklet, it seems to be an unlikely family connection. Derek |
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07 Mar 10 - 05:42 PM (#2858630) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: MARINER Coincidentally I heard another soccer/folkie connection the other day. I was told that Wayne Rooney's grandad was one of the piping Dorans .How true this is I have no idea. |
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08 Mar 10 - 05:12 AM (#2858938) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Re. Wayne Rooney, it's not impossible that there is a piping connection. There was a family of Rooneys who spent a lot of time in Liverpool who were travelling pipers. I don't know if they were related to the Dorans or not. Mind you, there are hundreds of Dorans and Rooneys in Liverpool. Some are related, some aren't. In any case, why isn't he playing for the Republic? It's not like he's going to win anything playing for England. |
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08 Mar 10 - 06:09 AM (#2858987) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Brakn He's not playing for the Republic because all his grandparents were born in Liverpool. |
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08 Mar 10 - 06:10 AM (#2858988) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Brakn Wayne Rooney that is. |
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08 Mar 10 - 08:16 AM (#2859068) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Never stopped Tony Cascarino. |
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08 Mar 10 - 08:26 AM (#2859074) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: mikesamwild Anyway Harry could have sung A-Creepin' and A-Crawlin' about him http://www.mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=123 John Rooney the piper played in Nottingham in the late 90s he was married to Felix Doran's daughter he told me once. Never mentioned Wayne though. |
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08 Mar 10 - 08:28 AM (#2859075) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Terry McDonald Could you let us know just what trophies/titles the Republic has won or how far they've got in major tournaments? |
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08 Mar 10 - 09:15 AM (#2859122) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: MARINER "Could you let us know just what trophies/titles the Republic has won or how far they've got in major tournaments".And your point is?? |
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08 Mar 10 - 09:59 AM (#2859142) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Terry McDonald I would have thought it was obvious but as you needed to ask, it was a response to the weird suggestion that Wayne Rooney would have been better off playing for the Republic rather than England. |
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08 Mar 10 - 10:48 AM (#2859181) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Mariner I didn't need to ask ,I just wondered what your comment had to do with the subject at hand. And that is ; is Wayne Rooney one of the piper Doran's ?. |
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08 Mar 10 - 11:50 AM (#2859232) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: Paul Davenport For some fairly personal reasons I did the Cox family tree … I know pretty well who was and who wasn't related to Harry, no Terrys that I noticed. There again, nobody's perfect. Paul |
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12 Mar 10 - 05:28 AM (#2862437) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Iain Wallace I have never seen any evidence for the claim that Harry was John Terry's great grandfather. I edited it out of the Wikipedia page on John last year and made these comments on the associated discussion page:- "I have edited out this reference which has been marked up for some months as requiring a citation "His great-grandfather, Harry Cox, was a noted traditional folk singer, featured in Lomax interviews.[citation needed]" Harry Cox was a friend of my daughter's godfather in Norfolk, there seems no local tradition of a relationship to John Terry. Harry's only child to survive infancy as far as I know was Myrtle, she married Lenny Helsdon. A bit of cursory research suggests the names of John Terry's great grandparents were TERRY, WILLING, POWELL, CHESTER, CHURCH, LEWIS(?), BELL and HENESSEY(?). I will make a similar edit on Harry Cox's page. IainWallace (talk) 01:03, 18 October 2009 (UTC)" |
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15 Jan 12 - 06:08 AM (#3290834) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: GUEST,Tracy I am one of Harry Cox's great grand children (my mother was Harry's only grandchild) and I can assure you that we aren't related to John Terry! |
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15 Jan 12 - 07:54 AM (#3290859) Subject: RE: Harry Cox was John Terry's Great Grandad From: The Sandman your greatgrandad was one of the finest english trad singers, |