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15 Mar 10 - 04:28 PM (#2864733) Subject: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: GUEST,Emily Does anyone know if Roll Your Leg Over is Public Domain? I haven't been able to find any copyright information anywhere. Thanks so much! |
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15 Mar 10 - 06:28 PM (#2864809) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Joe_F It dates back to a time when it is hard to imagine anyone daring to claim authorship of it. Then, of course, there is also the difficulty that different stanzas have different anonymous authors. |
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15 Mar 10 - 07:12 PM (#2864846) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Charley Noble Oscar Brand copyrighted most all the bawdy songs, including this, one but I wouldn't necessarily worry about it. Charley Noble |
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15 Mar 10 - 08:27 PM (#2864876) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Jim Carroll English traditional song, sometimes known as 'Knife in the Window' has verse; Oh me britches are tight and I cannot undo them, Repeat. There's a knife on the window love, love take it to them. Refrain Lay your Leg Over me, Over me do. If thet's the one it's in public domain. Jim Carroll |
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16 Mar 10 - 01:19 PM (#2865382) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Goose Gander This song was recently discussed on a thread here, if this one isn't in the public domain, then nothing is. |
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16 Mar 10 - 05:42 PM (#2865572) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: dick greenhaus Thre's a rich history of "If all the girls.....Then I'd be". This particular one doesn't seem to have surfaced, as far as I can tell, before 1940 or so. |
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16 Mar 10 - 07:56 PM (#2865661) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Joe_F While I was at Caltech, ca. 1957, I added: I wish all them ladies was linear spaces I'd be a vector -- I'd be in their bases. I hereby dedicate it to the public domain. |
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16 Mar 10 - 09:36 PM (#2865707) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Q (Frank Staplin) OK, Joe F. If not him, who wants to lay claim to it? |
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16 Mar 10 - 10:55 PM (#2865744) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: GUEST I actually checked and as far as I can tell Oscar Brand does not have copyright, or at least it isn't listed as his at HFA... |
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17 Mar 10 - 04:38 AM (#2865818) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: MGM·Lion "Thre's a rich history of "If all the girls.....Then I'd be". This particular one doesn't seem to have surfaced, as far as I can tell, before 1940 or so." Dick Greenhaus === WHICH particular one, Dick? There are 4 versions collected by Sharp 1903-6 in James Reeves, The Idiom Of The People, 1958, under heading Hares On The Mountain; none contains the actual words 'Roll leg over', but all the cut·stitches/tumble·fumble content is there. |
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17 Mar 10 - 04:45 AM (#2865823) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: MGM·Lion ... tho should add that the "Lay the leg over me" as chorus, which I presume is what Dick was referring to, does not appear to belong to these turn of 19/20C versions, which much more go with the 'Whack fol-de-diddle-i-do' type chorus. Is that the recent[ish] addition you ref'd to, Dick? |
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17 Mar 10 - 09:51 AM (#2865999) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Lighter "Roll Your Leg Over" is distinguishable by 1. its virtually unchanging melody (clearly related to earlier ones), 2. the refrain "Roll your leg over, roll your leg over, / Roll your over the man in the moon." 3. randomly arranged verses (often numerous) of a more verbally ingenious, less traditional, more "urban-industrial" kind, suggesting a university or military origin. (The knife-in-the-window narrative has completely disappeared.) The earliest ref. I can find to it is from the U.S. during WWII. Brand recorded it as the very first track of Volume I of "Bawdy Songs and Backroom Ballads," released in 1955. Not long after, he recorded more stanzas on Volume III. |
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17 Mar 10 - 10:36 AM (#2866027) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Lighter Joe, it looks like you're the author of a folksong (or a folk verse). Norah Labiner's 1998 novel, "Our Sometime Sister," has, "If all the young ladies were linear spaces, and I were a vector I'd intersect their bases." Congratulations! |
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17 Mar 10 - 02:22 PM (#2866190) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: GUEST,allan s I heard it back in 1951 U- Conn |
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17 Mar 10 - 02:34 PM (#2866200) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Q (Frank Staplin) See thread on "Pretty Polly," linked above in post by by Goose Gander. |
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17 Mar 10 - 06:11 PM (#2866372) Subject: RE: Origins: Roll Your Leg Over Public Domain? From: Joe_F allan: The song, or the linear-algebra stanza? |