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BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?

16 May 10 - 07:04 AM (#2907925)
Subject: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: John MacKenzie

Analytical article on the UK US relationship with our new government.





(Sorry about the title, but if you can call us Yookers, then we can call you Yoosers:))


16 May 10 - 08:10 AM (#2907946)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: VirginiaTam

well I am a YooSer living in YooK. I am as pissed off as I can be that Clegg joined the old school ties faction and I am about as anti-Israel as it gets.


16 May 10 - 08:18 AM (#2907949)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: VirginiaTam

Well maybe not exactly anti-Israel, but I do have issues with certain practices in Gaza, etc. I think such behaviour casts a very bad light on them as a people and that is sad.


16 May 10 - 04:52 PM (#2908162)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: John MacKenzie

Well the US will always back Israel, because it has nuclear arms, and is close to Iran


16 May 10 - 05:55 PM (#2908202)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: mousethief

Not to mention the political cloud (votes) Israel pulls with sympathizers in the US.


16 May 10 - 08:56 PM (#2908280)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Bill D

I get an error trying to open the article....

however...

"...the US will always back Israel, because it has nuclear arms, and is close to Iran."

Kinda over-simplifying it, I'd think. It's a bit more complex than that.

(and I personally have never used the term "Yooker" or heard anyone use it.)


16 May 10 - 09:04 PM (#2908284)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Rapparee

I thought the people living above the Tweed were North Britons....


17 May 10 - 12:14 AM (#2908351)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Ron Davies

I would think that as the article points out, President Obama's litmus test for the new UK regime will be how strongly it supports the efforts in Afghanistan.   So far, it appears he has no reason to be displeased--but of course UK budget considerations may enter the picture soon.   But that was going to happen regardless of who "won" the UK election.

As I noted earlier, it seems quite likely that this was an election it was better to lose--for any party.   The painful budget cuts coming will alienate huge numbers of voters.


17 May 10 - 07:25 PM (#2908827)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: McGrath of Harlow

Yoosers and Yessirs...


18 May 10 - 11:55 AM (#2909255)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: ollaimh

i am reaslly tired of the resurgent racism against israel. yeah they have abuses but they also nhave rule of law. palistinians within israel and in the occupied territories can use the israeli courts to redress abuse like re routing the wall. feminists in palistine can go to israel as refugees as can gays and lesbians. they have civil and human rights there.

there are no minority rights of any kind within palistine. they have persecuted their own christian minority so that once over a third they have been driven out so that they no longer are over twenty percent in any area.

people do not apply the same standards against israel as they do against the neighbouring states where there is no kind of human or civil rights protection.

moreover remember there have always been jews in israel!!! they are there in greater numbers now in a war situation where they are required to do things on a war footing. yes they have abuses but judging israel by separate standards than you judge the neighbouring states is racism. i despair at the rise of this racism on the left--it has bankrupted the legitimacty of the left in many countries ovewr issues that are too complex and none of most of those countries business.

so pleaee virginna--go to hell


18 May 10 - 12:05 PM (#2909261)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: Smedley

Disapproving of Israeli government policies is not racist. Doing so because of the ethnicity of the people who form that government would be racist, but nobody has done that here.


18 May 10 - 01:46 PM (#2909318)
Subject: RE: BS: How do you Yoosers see this one?
From: McGrath of Harlow

Much of what ollaimh wrote there could also have been said of the old South Africa...