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BS: Calling GfS......

03 Nov 10 - 09:41 PM (#3023072)
Subject: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Look, here's a thought, GfS. I'm on Facebook. Look for George Coventry. You will find me there. I'm also on Youtube. Do a search for George Coventry there and you will find me. Then send me a friend request and a message on Facebook and identify yourself. Don't hesitate! ;-) Remember, I can hook you up with luminaries like Chongo Chimp, Penelope Rutledge, and William Shatner. You'd be amazed who's on the old Rolodex here....! Yeah, it's old-fashioned, but I still like using that thing. I guess I'm nostalgic.


03 Nov 10 - 10:18 PM (#3023096)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bill D

He probably won't oblige, LH... I don't think he lives in Virginia, and only Virginia is known for having a Sanity clause... ;>)


04 Nov 10 - 04:38 AM (#3023177)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

I looked Chongo up. He's all over the place but I did not see you, LH

Merry Xmas Bill!


04 Nov 10 - 06:20 AM (#3023211)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: John MacKenzie

The Christmas bill arrives in January BTW


04 Nov 10 - 11:11 AM (#3023411)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

You say "he", Bill? Well, I always assumed it was "he" too, but some people here insist that GfS is a "she". I have no idea what these assumptions are based upon.

I do find, however, that GfS is a truly independent thinker who cannot be defined as either a "liberal" or a "conservative" because he or she is smart enough and flexible enough to see way beyond those ridiculous designations which are presently being used to divide people and shut them up inside a little mental box.

GfS thinks outside the box. That is how you free yourself from the all-pervasive programming that the mass media are doing to the public. You think outside the box. You don't accept their definitions. You don't fall back on standard knee-jerk reactions to keywords. You don't buy into their "divide and conquer" program. You stop believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. You don't allow yourself to be defined as anything but "human".


04 Nov 10 - 12:18 PM (#3023455)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Little Hawk, Yo ho,...Flattery will get you nowhe....Hey, what am I saying!?! I'll figure something out here. I'm not into 'Facebook', with all I've heard about it....but, I'm going to figure someway to touch bases. Maybe send you some music, just for shits and giggles. One of them is TOO big, even in MP3 to fit into an E-mail. Got some vocal stuff, that you may enjoy....but then you might not, either...in which case I'll throw myself off a cliff!..and land on a big cactus!

Sorry, I didn't get back to you sooner.

As far as the 'independent thinker' stuff....something happened to me years ago, (Which I'll get into later), and I saw it all unfold. Can't explain why or how, but it changed everything. When I got together with the Tewa, we instantly hit it off, and we shared lots of ...umm..'notes'(?)...which confirmed a lot of stuff I saw. I even wrote of it, in the first part of a screenplay, in some detail, in 1990. When the screenplay was being looked at, and considered at ...(maybe I shouldn't say here), 911 happened. They loved the work, but because of the events then, they held up EVERYTHING they were doing. In retrospect, and as time went on, it was dead on!!!..However, it has the element of being 'timeless', as they said, but ahead of its time. Well, here we are!! Even though it was sorta a 'love' story, I was also told it was HIGHLY political and spiritual (for the time), though that was not my main intent. I also scored the soundtrack, and film score....some of which,(as soon as I figure this out), I'll send to you.....However it would be for your personal 'enjoyment'....(well 'enjoyment is just an assumption, but most people do a lot)..if not, I'll start looking for that cliff!

Sometimes it seems like its been both a blessing, and a curse(the event I mentioned earlier), but as it came down, that's the cards that were dealt me, so as they say, 'Once you strike the bell, you can't take away the ring'.

Until then I sincerely hope that my thoughts in some of my posts, though some agree, and some don't, have jogged some circuits, to any and all those who write and/or compose. Sometimes we need a nudge to think in new and larger boxes. I know for me, when I hear or feel the angst, in my brothers and sisters, it causes me to compose or play, with the deeper emotions, that we tend to ignore, as people journey away from their own beings, and 'adopt' ideas and outlooks, that are not even real, or their own...as they drift closer to a death of their hearts!

Anyway, I can yak about this later...other than to say, access, through your mind and heart, the 'portal' where the truth lives, and turn is into frequencies, contain the chaos, and make music...for a distant place, ignored, but within you!!

Absolute Warmest Regards!

Guest from Sanity

P.S. Do you think I could get an autograph from Chongo?


05 Nov 10 - 03:15 AM (#3024043)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

I don't know where LH got off to but that sounds pretty good to me Ggfs. Stay away from cliffs please and thanks for being your own person.

Tom


05 Nov 10 - 07:08 PM (#3024691)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

You're welcome, Tom. I don't know how to be somebody else, though....not even while everybody is trying to program everybody to be somebody else!

I might not be perfect all the time, but speed is a bi-product of accuracy....and I can play pretty fast...when I need to.

Sometimes truth isn't polite, sometimes truth isn't 'nice', sometimes truth isn't good news, sometimes it is....all it HAS to be IS the truth..and that's what I want.

(Sorry if that offends anyone in the 'Mudpond').

GfS


05 Nov 10 - 07:16 PM (#3024698)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Hey, I'm here. Cool. Yeah, I'd love to hear that stuff.

I'm not much into Facebook either, don't go there much, but I am on it. You can protect yourself fine on Facebook if you don't post a picture of yourself (which someone can steal for identify theft purposes), and if you don't provide a lot of personal info on your profile such as your entire birthdate (big mistake!), your home address, etc...all of which can again be used for identity theft. You had best also avoid all the various games and free things that are offered there for you to log onto...cos I hear that some of them are viruses or other nasty things.

I also had an extraordinary experience years ago which changed a great deal and shifted my perspective a lot. I don't talk about it on this forum, but it was something that helps widen one's viewpoint considerably, that's for sure. It gives strong reason to believe in the goodness of life and of oneself and of others too.

Yeah, you can definitely get an autograph from Chongo. I can arrange that. I can even get you a pre-issue print of a Chongo Dollar (he's gonna change the design of the Greenbacks after he's elected). ;-D

Like I said, look me up on Youtube.   Under "George Coventry". I think you can send messages on Youtube too.

I've got a CD to come out shortly. You might be interested in that.


05 Nov 10 - 07:20 PM (#3024704)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Cool....is that you, with the curly hair?
You look younger than I thought....(unless you get your hair done)...smirk)

GfS


05 Nov 10 - 07:30 PM (#3024716)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Yeah, that's me with the curly hair and the green T-shirt, singing "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry". The other guys (and gal) are musical friends. We get together on Tuesday nights and play songs. One of the guys is Mike Cavendish who ran one of Toronto's seminal folk clubs, The Village Corner, in the late 50s, early 60s. Dylan played his first Toronto appearance there according to Mike, and people like Gordon Lightfoot and Ian and Sylvia played there a lot when they were starting out. Buffy Sainte-Marie and Joan Baez also. Mike is about 75 now, I think, and he's a real character. Loves to talk and tell outrageous stories about those times. I'm 62.

The hair is the real deal, I don't get it done. ;-D


05 Nov 10 - 07:30 PM (#3024718)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow

You don't believe in Santa Claus Little Hawk? I am shocked.


05 Nov 10 - 07:33 PM (#3024719)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Well, I did...for awhile. ;-) But I only tend to believe now in stuff that I've encountered directly...other stuff I keep under advisement, so to speak...as a possibility, but not a certainty.


05 Nov 10 - 08:02 PM (#3024750)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

What's wrong with Santa Claus?
He has free presents in his bag....he's probably a registered Democrat!

GfS


05 Nov 10 - 08:11 PM (#3024756)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow

Actually he delegates a lot of the present giving stuff these days. But he still keeps an eye on what's going on and is always liable to step in, if it's not working out right.


05 Nov 10 - 08:13 PM (#3024758)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Well, I gave the matter some thought when I was very young. I took a look at the chimney, and thought, "There's simply no way a fat man with a bag of presents can come down that chimney. Not possible. Also, sleighs and reindeer can't fly."

I then quizzed my mother about it and asked for an explanation. My suspicion was that my parents were making up the whole thing for some reason.

She confirmed that my suspicions were correct and she explained that it was just a nice traditional story which people told their children in order to help them have fun at Christmas. She cautioned me not to spoil the other kid's fun by bursting their bubble, and to keep quiet about it. That made good sense to me, so I did as she had advised. It was fun knowing that I knew, but not saying anything to anyone. Presently, of course, all my friends also figured out the whole thing and that was the end of it. I haven't had any children, but if I had, I don't think I would have told them stories about Santa Claus. Can't be sure, though! You never know unless you're actually there how strong the social pressures to conform can be on a parent.


05 Nov 10 - 09:26 PM (#3024814)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Charley Noble

Refreshing!

Charley Noble


05 Nov 10 - 10:00 PM (#3024832)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: McGrath of Harlow

An interesting theory of yours, Little Hawk.


06 Nov 10 - 03:33 AM (#3024928)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

Gee, LH you were either a)smarter than me b)didn't have boneheaded neighbor kids who could'nt wait to tell you before you figured it out or c) you ARE a UFO foundling. I wonder what Chongo would say?
At anyrate I see we are the same age.

And speaking of Santa Claus have you heard of the four stages of Man in terms of Santa Claus? Is that a "No"? Do you want me to tell you the four stages? Too bad, I will tell you anyhow.

1. You believe in Santa Claus

2. You don't believe in Santa Claus

3. You ARE Santa Claus

4. You LOOK like Santa Claus!

Merry Christmas- now I gotta go check out your YouTube site.


06 Nov 10 - 03:44 AM (#3024930)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton

Yes!!    Santa from Sanity has been to my Youtube!

Thanks for the presents GfS.....   :0)


06 Nov 10 - 05:21 AM (#3024963)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Akenaton: "
Yes!!    Santa from Sanity has been to my Youtube!
Thanks for the presents GfS.....   :0)"

Huh?

GfS


06 Nov 10 - 07:11 AM (#3024993)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

Very interesting LH! I detect a little influence perhaps from Mr. Dylan and...maybe a touch of Arlo in there, but your voice is your own and has its own distinction. Nonetheless I like!


06 Nov 10 - 08:51 AM (#3025024)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton

Sorry GfS....Someone left some really nice sixties music on my youtube site. Thought it was you.


06 Nov 10 - 11:29 AM (#3025134)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Cheers, Slag. ;-) Yeah, there's Dylan influence there, specially when I sing one of his songs.

Regarding the Santa thing...I was the most scientifically rational kid I ever knew. I was studying Darwin's evolutionary stuff in some natural history books at my parents' place before I even went to school. (My mother taught me to read at home.) So it was a leadpipe cinch to figure out that the Santa Claus story couldn't possibly be true. After all, it violated several commonly known natural laws! What I couldn't fathom was that so many other kids didn't seem to even think about that...but their parents probably were the main cause of that. Kids imitate the example put in front of them.

We didn't go to church. My whole understanding of life in those days was scientific rationalism and normal social morality.

Interestingly enough, though, as time went by I discovered for myself that there are vast inner worlds of consciousness in human experience that science has little (if anything) to say about and that they are very real. I now have great interest in spiritual matters...some of which science can touch upon...but most of which science is blind to...so far. There's a physical universe. There's a non-physical universe. The one reaches into the other intimately and at all times, but you cannot observe or contain the non-physical through physical means, and you can't put it in a petri dish and weigh it or measure it. Nevertheless it plays a vital part in imparting consciousness and meaning to the physical...indeed the physical would be utterly dead and useless without it. We are not our bodies, we are our consciousness. It is from consciousness that we derive a sense of self and of meaning. The body, in my opinion, is just a vehicle. My consciousness is the owner and driver of that vehicle, and when the vehicle gets too old to drive, I'll send it to the wreckers and I'll find a new vehicle.


06 Nov 10 - 12:53 PM (#3025193)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Mrrzy

You can't fool me. There ain't no sanity clause.

-A Marx Brother


06 Nov 10 - 01:25 PM (#3025219)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Little Hawk: "...We are not our bodies,...."

Funny, I was thinking about posting that Yesterday, while driving into town! I've thought about this one, too...your mind is like a 'modem' that connects 'you' to the massive 'internet' of the collective consciousness'...a part of the creative force, connected to all life.

Some may call it God...but, it DOES connect us all..and works best, when you don't have any 'viruses' in it. Those (viruses) only come into it, if you are negligent, and don't keep your filters clean!

The ability to 'process' information, is called 'intelligence' (by definition of the process, not by opinion).

I was going to add something related to the 'Atheist' thread about that, but haven't got around to it, yet; (just too buried in busy).
but I will.

L.H. am getting set up to make contact with you. Be patient..will do.
I'm wondering now if you'd like the music, being as it is a bit different than what you do..but then, I think you may have an open mind. The BIG one is going to be a trick to send...but I'm sure with a little help from 'Galactic Central' it'll happen!

BTW, Yo-Ho....and stay tuned.......

Regards,
GfS


06 Nov 10 - 01:41 PM (#3025231)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Yeah...the trouble with calling that omnipresent web of consciousness "God" is...most people immediately imagine some kind of bearded ancient male deity sitting on a heavenly throne somewhere handing out judgement...which would make "him" separate from us! I don't imagine anything like that at all. Anyway, it's fairly useless talking to most people about it, because they usually have a completely different understanding of the word, based on archaic Judeo-Christian religious notions and/or their negative reactions to those notions, so they usually misinterpret what it is that you're talking about if you say "God" and they can't be bothered to listen carefully enough or long enough to find out. So sometimes I call it "God", but I often call it something else instead. You could call it anything you wanted. In Star Wars they chose to call it "the Force". It is that which imparts consciousness and meaning and a sense of identity...of "self" and "other". You could call it "life" too, if you wanted to, and I often do call it that.

It shouldn't matter much that your music is different from mine. I like many kinds of music.


06 Nov 10 - 02:20 PM (#3025264)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yo-Ho...the problem, is, as you stated, and I didn't want to C/P....is that what we're saying really has NO conflict with Judeo/Christian beliefs...but some rather believe in the meaning of the shell rather than the yoke!..so they miss it!

GfS


06 Nov 10 - 02:25 PM (#3025273)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

And an empty shell ain't good for much, is it? ;-)


06 Nov 10 - 02:28 PM (#3025278)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Nope..it was just to deliver the substance of the part that we needed...but people get hung up in the image of the shell...or being the 'chosen' shell....and miss the food!

GfS


06 Nov 10 - 07:39 PM (#3025565)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

LH, I have to agree with a lot of what you state. To me, God is transcendent. I could swap a few definitions with you and know we'd be talking about the same thing. He is wholly other than our observable universe but the inner universe! Ah! Trnascendent in that He touches this world in a different way than psyicallity, with a different type of knowing than what the sensory imput can confirm.

But! The body apparatus is necessary and can serve as an intermediary between the cosmos and the sensory experience. That is, if we seek. I have learned through years of prolonged periods of unrelenting pain that, body does indeed affect perception and in some cases overwhelm. That's stuff for an extended discussion, not here. In one sense, through the human mind we are the means of the universe to behold itself.


06 Nov 10 - 09:32 PM (#3025624)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Slag: "But! The body apparatus is necessary and can serve as an intermediary between the cosmos and the sensory experience."

So, it would seem logical that if the invisible force wanted to communicate with the physical realm, who have 'lost' connection with the 'unseen' it would have to manifest itself into the physical dimension, to speak to it, in this dimension...wouldn't it?

GfS


06 Nov 10 - 10:47 PM (#3025659)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

In Judeo-Christian terms, The Fall! We lost the spiritual connection. We know something is missing but can't quite put our fingers on it. < Every notice how every metsphor for the spiritual is rooted in the physical world: can't put our finger on it? Jesus portrayed spiritual truths in parables about known things. I would argue too, that the things that matter most to honest sincere humans are not tangible. There IS a spiritual side to things but not all see this.


06 Nov 10 - 11:24 PM (#3025669)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bobert

Sheet fire, ya'll...

Want proof that God does indeed exist all ya' gotta do is open yer sports page and check out the Dallas Cowboys record... That just fir starters... Ya'll ever been on the Pennsylvania Turnpike and you been drivin' thru snow and construction and ya' get to Altoona and so ya' get off, find a $39 a night room and walk down the street and find corner bar where people come to play and listen to blues??? Sheet fire!!! That's God's work... I mean, don't know about Jesus but I'm goin' on record of sayin' the Big Guy is a blues fan... I mean, He gotta be since the blues is the Devil's music, right??? I mean, they say to keep yer friends close but yer enemies closer...

Let's see??? Hmmmmm??? Need more proof of God??? Well, there were these three travelin' salesmen... Ahhhhhh, wrong file...

Okay, back to Altoona, Pa... Can't remember the name of that joint 'er the names of folks I got to play with but they sold ***Iron City*** beer so I was glad that the motel was just a block away so me, my poor ol' geetar and a 2-pack (6 mius 4) of Iron City were able to stumble back thru the snow after an impromptu jam...

See, that shit couldn't happen if God didn't exist... Right???

Square business...

B;~)


07 Nov 10 - 12:31 AM (#3025692)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Well, I think it's all sacred. That's why I call it "life". That includes our entire experience of everything. Yeah, there's a spiritual side. I think it's the side that imparts meaning and that gives consciousness. It also manifests as love, without which you don't have much of anything.


07 Nov 10 - 03:01 AM (#3025734)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Slag: "....Ever notice how every metaphor for the spiritual is rooted in the physical world: can't put our finger on it? ..."

Slag: "...I would argue too, that the things that matter most to honest sincere humans are not tangible. There IS a spiritual side to things but not all see this..."

Hawk: "Yeah, there's a spiritual side. I think it's the side that imparts meaning and that gives consciousness..."

Slag: "In Judeo-Christian terms, The Fall!..."

However, IF you've made connection, are you still under ALL the bummers of the 'fall'? If we have 'access', then it would also logical, that if you 'felt' the separation, then the 're-union', your point of view about what life really is, and the compassion of what it is if YOU were trying to 'break through' to communicate, that life, wouldn't it teach you something from THAT point of view? Wouldn't that affect your playing?, Your expression?..and if you write, your lyrics?...and to reach a HIGHER common denominator in mankind, wouldn't your lyrics have more truth in them..especially if you perform it more believably, because its true, and you are IT, delivering IT...so when the listener hears the 'song', a part of him/her identifies with a more personal depth, and their ears perk up?..possibly to add info to that part of them???...I mean, people are thirsty for it, aren't they...especially in the 'folk' circles.

This rises above your typical 'protest' song...especially if they are feeling LIFE in a way, that the comparison between what they begin to think and feel, and 'an issue' normally addressed, is 'taken care of' automatically...you think??

(You may have to read that again, slowly..not sure if I articulated it well enough).

Your music, at that point, makes a quantum leap...because music IS A LANGUAGE!!..and they can't explain why it works!!!..but it does!!...and if you can make it resonate in the listener, within the deeper truths, via emotion, and intelligence, speak to the soul....you've blown them away!!...and its NOT to have the listener 'admire' you, but to admire that part, within themselves, and you spoke to it!!
That is AWESOME...especially if it keeps resonating within them!

Dang...I gotta get some to you...some of this stuff just takes you AWAYYYY....and on the vocal stuff, instead of laying out another 'want' or 'demand', you just lay it out, and be vulnerable...the listener KNOWS what to feel or do, INSTINCTIVELY!..with out 'putting the 'suggestion' in words!

The only deal, is you have to be consummately, honest, with all of it. You can't help dialing it in, with your finger on the pulse.

Yes folks, there IS a common thread through mankind....and we get to link people to it, in a more tangible way..something to be humbly valued for!!

OKAY, enough on this for now....But in closing, the whole of the body politic, whether for or against it, is a big spiritual sink hole!
Higher is better!!

Regards, GfS


07 Nov 10 - 10:47 AM (#3025870)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

I think your absolutely right in what you say. Yes, when a higher spiritual consciousness is brought into music then the songs or musical pieces are raised to a whole new level, becuase it isn't the isolated ego-mind that's speaking anymore, it's the soul that's speaking, and the soul is far greater than the mind. Ultimately one can tap into the universal Spirit of Life itself, and become as a scribe or a conduit. If that occurs, then both the lyrics and the music become transformed in subtle ways, and a lot of people will feel it and get it at some level, although they may not know exactly why. You can feel it yourself while you perform the music, you just have to "tune in" to it.

As for the political scene...yeah...it's a huge spiritual sinkhole. It mostly just drags people down and turns them negative. And you can see that in most of the political discussions.


07 Nov 10 - 12:45 PM (#3025952)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bobert

Heck, if we let our spirituality prevail in everything we do there is no reason why it has to bring us down... I mean, there are times when Jesus got a little testy, too... No big deal as long as one doesn't allow politics to eat at their core values or their spiritual self... Yeah, some folks can't compartmentalize politics and let it go... I mean, I enjoy them but it ain't my whole danged life...

B~


07 Nov 10 - 12:55 PM (#3025960)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Sure...it's possible to spiritualize politics, Bobert. Just not very common.


07 Nov 10 - 01:22 PM (#3025980)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Go back to sleep, Bobs.

GfS


07 Nov 10 - 02:14 PM (#3026015)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton

Fidel Castro. Eva Peron. Sarah Palin?


07 Nov 10 - 02:21 PM (#3026020)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Huh?

Chongo Chimp? ;-)

What's your point, Akenaton?


07 Nov 10 - 02:32 PM (#3026029)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: akenaton

Inspirational figures all.....maybe even CC   :0)


07 Nov 10 - 05:01 PM (#3026116)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Oh, for sure...


07 Nov 10 - 10:58 PM (#3026352)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

I wonder if human crying was what first sparked the first music? It has been said some some sage that for the most, life on Earth is in the minor key. You have to have soul, spirit to sing and make music, to do art, to write or anything else that really connects with humans.

Psychopathic people do not do these things. There only connection is with themselves and how they feel about what they are doing. Other humans are just objects to them to be manipulated or avoided. There is no human spirit with them. To some, they may seem like Supermen, Superwomen. To varying degrees they are disconnected from Humankind.

You're on to something there Ggfs! There can be a re-connection, a higher innocence if you will. We can forgive ourselves, we can seek God's forgiveness, we can move beyond whatever limitations that have been imposed upon ourselves by ourselves and by others. We don't have to keep playing in the minor keys. The world opens up to those who find the way beyond guilt. It is very freeing.


08 Nov 10 - 02:27 AM (#3026423)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Absolutely, Slag! I think that forgiveness of self and others is the ultimate step toward personal freedom. Most people find it quite hard to forgive certain others, and even harder to forgive themselves (for not accomplishing and being all that they had hoped to be in this life). They are far harder on themselves than the Great Spirit of Life is, because they won't let go of the minor key. In any case, that Great Spirit of Life loves them without reserve. In my opinion.


08 Nov 10 - 11:08 AM (#3026712)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Mrrzy

Little Hawk, I thought you only believed in that with which you had direct contact?


08 Nov 10 - 11:20 AM (#3026725)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

And...?

Please elaborate, Mrzzy. ;-)

I have direct contact with life every day. It is life itself that supports and sustains me, you, and everyone else, and it is life itself, whatever enables life and consciousness to function within us, which I refer to as the Great Spirit of Life. You could also call it "life force". Or you could call it "consciousness". Or you could call it "self-awareness". Or you could call it "a sense of identity". Or you could call it "intention".

I don't know what it is. You don't know what it is. Nobody knows what it is. Nobody knows how it started or when or where it began (though there are some theories about that). But we all have contact with it at all times. We all experience it. Some choose to call it "God". Some don't call it anything at all, and they never think about it.

I also think that life is an act of love. That's a subjective judgement I have made, derived from direct experience, contact, and observation of life.


08 Nov 10 - 10:24 PM (#3027265)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

Mrzzy, if you told the Great Void about life on Earth (and if it didn't just swallow you up without even as much as a burp) it would think you the most imaginative story teller. I can see the aura forming the letters: PREPOSTEROUS ! and now it swallows you up.


09 Nov 10 - 11:29 PM (#3028084)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Slag: "You're on to something there Ggfs! There can be a re-connection, a higher innocence if you will. We can forgive ourselves, we can seek God's forgiveness, we can move beyond whatever limitations that have been imposed upon ourselves by ourselves and by others."

And Little Hawk agrees...so.....

First of all, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner..the office floor was steam cleaned, and I've been buried in 'busy'. My apologies!

Now, back to the posts from Slag, and Little Hawk,
I think people have been hung up in the disconnect, and that is definitely tangled up in people trying to figure out(read: 'make up'), what is 'Good and/or Evil'..(and the 'knowledge' thereof. What people can't seem to get, in their reconciliation, is that BEFORE there was 'original sin' there was original innocence.....and the path to that, is to at least make some honest attempt to admit that somewhere along the line, we have made mistakes!...Not only in our actions, but in our thinking, which perpetuates the sense of 'separation'...and if separated, we have a sense of 'unworthiness'. With a sense of unworthiness, comes a sense of avoiding taking that which is rightfully yours!

I find it so beneficial, whether in composing music or in writing lyrics, to freely and openly admit, what people are afraid to admit, or try to hide. This is true in your life as well!...so, it doesn't have to be so much of a stretch! When your music, (or life) is giving away such information, you might be surprised at how many people perk up, and pay attention!!! People are STARVED and THIRSTY, for REAL input!!

It's not like people need to be 'taught' more, or convinced of your 'opinions'(based on the worn out insanity of figuring out good versus evil), people need to identify, with a reality, long swept away from plain view!...and that which can be spoken of freely, but isn't, because of a sense of 'self embarrassment', turns out to be admired, for the sheer genius of it!!! That is a fact!!(If said tastefully).

So, I came up with an idea for anybody on here who would like to hear some of the music that I've been working on(for so long)....

I'm thinking, maybe it would be better to set up a time, where we could possibly be on a 'conference chat', and I'll play, both some recordings, and some 'live'..and it would be sorta like a live Mudcat concert!!! I'm pretty confident, you'll find it a breath of fresh air!

I did this a couple of years ago, during the holidays, in a chat room, where I played keyboards live into the room, through a transducer hook up, and it went over fabulously!

So let me know....and I'll put some stuff together. One piece is about a half hour long, but I have shorter ones, that are in 'song' format, with different singers. (one, might even be me, but I won't tell).

Best Regards!

GfS


10 Nov 10 - 12:21 AM (#3028099)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

I've never participated or listened to a "conference chat" type of thing, GfS, but I'd certainly be interested.

I think what you say about original innocence is dead right. We all sprang from orginal innocence as far as I'm concerned, not original sin. I have never thought of myself as having any origin in "sin", but I do recognize having made numerous errors. Error is a step on the path of learning. In fact, without making errors learning is probably not even possible...each error made raises a flag in consciousness which points the way toward a correction of that error, and in the process of correction something valuable is learned and one improves oneself. Thus error is not to be feared or denied, but to be appreciated for the lesson it teaches.

The ego is so intent on observing and critizing others that it generally manages to almost totally avoid real self-observation and self-criticism. It manages, though, to erect a wall of pride...a defensive reaction, but it rarely succeeds in experiencing genuine love of either self or others.

The ego fears its own death if it should be honest and confront its own weaknesses and failings, but the love that sustains it through all that fear and sorrow cannot die. The ego itself WILL die when it truly surrenders to love...and that's what it fears. It will die and that which one truly is, which is way beyond the fragile ego, will step magnificently out of the shadow of fear and be seen to be the true self after all. And what is the true self? Love in all its forms!

The ego believes in separation and lives BY the belief in separation. Love believes in oneness and lives by no separation whatsoever. Love embraces everything. Light banishes darkness, and in the light the darkness is seen to have been...nothing at all, just an absence of light. We all want that love, because we know at heart that love is the one and only thing that can sustain us.


10 Nov 10 - 03:30 AM (#3028130)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Little Hawk, (yo-ho)..all you need, to get good sound is your computer hooked up to a good sound system, or maybe GOOD headphones. On a conference 'chat', we could have as many people on it, as who want to listen.

Last time I used 'yahoo' chat, then hit the 'conference' icon, and then you either ask to enter the conference chat, or I invite you..either one. Once everybody is in the room, they can all listen, and/or post messages to anyone in the room....which, I believe, everybody in the room reads, and it's 'live'.

I've done it before in the chat rooms, themselves, but then you get a lot of people who want to talk, and the music gets messed up when they 'key' the mic.

I think we could pull it off, and any 'Catter can listen in...and still be on the Mudcat Forum..at the same time!..All we'd have to do, is set a time, and everybody have instant messaging. like I said, I used 'Yahoo'. I don't have it on this computer now, but it's a free download.

This way, I don't have to piss off some people who are looking at the material, for commercial production....and turn you on to some pretty cool stuff!

Anybody else? Post a thought, or a time, or ask a question.

Earlier this evening I got a call from a lady who LOVES the material, and wanted to know if I'd play for the opening night, for the town's brand new 'Arts Council Center'....Sure! Move my equipment, and I'll do it! So I guess I'm waiting to hear back.

Anyway, I'll hang, and check out the feedback. If, not, we could do it one on one.

Regards,

GfS


10 Nov 10 - 12:02 PM (#3028380)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Okay, sounds good. Keep me posted on that.


10 Nov 10 - 01:58 PM (#3028466)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

OKEY-DOKEY! I'll let a little time go by, to see if there's any more takers.

GfS


11 Nov 10 - 01:50 PM (#3029555)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Little Hawk, Yo-Ho. OK, I guess no one else seems to be into listening in. (I guess they'll have to take your word, for how it was).
What instant messaging do you have, or use. I'm most familiar with Yahoo,...but haven't used it in a while, nor have I downloading iton this computer. I'm sure I can use someone else's....but let me know and we can set up a time.
You can give your 'critique' in the forum, because I'll not be using Yahoo IM, after I play you the music.

Warmest Regards,

GfS


11 Nov 10 - 10:41 PM (#3029991)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Instant messaging? I have no idea about how that works. I've never used anything like instant messaging except once on Facebook. Anyway, I'm going to sleep now, and I'll be out all day tomorrow. Get back to me on the weekend about this, and we'll take it from there.


12 Nov 10 - 02:25 AM (#3030050)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

OK!


GfS


12 Nov 10 - 02:34 AM (#3030057)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

Interesting! I've been known to play the paper and comb quite well. I haven't been on too many conference calls though.

Original innocence: The Garden. If you will remember the way was barred by flaming angels who turned away the original inhabitants. You can never go home, alas. This is why you must discover that "higher" innocence. It is innocence that transcends the forbidden knowledge that adheres to our consciences like F-26! Guilt!


12 Nov 10 - 11:50 AM (#3030402)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Slag, What is F-26?

GfS


12 Nov 10 - 07:37 PM (#3030760)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Slag

Super, super-glue! Can't get it in California anymore. They think it interfers with pot smoke! Can't have that.

And correction, "angels with flaming swords"!


12 Nov 10 - 08:43 PM (#3030800)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

An Angel with a flaming sword can put just about anything to flight. Trust me. That's one of the things Angels are very good for.

Hey, guys...I got back sooner than expected from the road trip. My buddy Jack picked up a super guitar today...the lucky son-of-a-gun. It's a Timberline. Anyway, I just posted a thread up in the music section showing me and Jack performing one of my songs last Sunday at Openfolk. Check it out in the music section above.

Let's hook up tomorrow or Sunday on GfS's music...you just have to explain to me how and when it happens.


12 Nov 10 - 09:00 PM (#3030812)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bobert

Sorry to barge in but...

...super glue is a staple in my life... Ever have a gig and ya cut a finger doin' somethin' else just hours before???

Yup, super glue...

...to the rescue!!!

B~

BTW... I saw the video, LH, and I'd like to borrow yer hair... lol...


12 Nov 10 - 09:17 PM (#3030818)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

I use super glue a lot in building model airplanes. It's great stuff.

Chongo envies my hair too, but I told him that he looks just right for a chimp, and he said, "I have to agree." ;-)


13 Nov 10 - 02:47 AM (#3030901)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yo-Ho!!..Saw your video Little Hawk, really liked it...bookmarked it!

I'll try to hook up with you this week-end IF I get free. If not, it will be at my soonest available moment, that I'm free.

You're pretty fucking good! Hats off!

GfS


13 Nov 10 - 10:35 AM (#3031058)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. Well, years and years of practice...it finally gets you there, I guess.


13 Nov 10 - 01:56 PM (#3031198)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Like my fiddler friend insists, and I've posted several times..:PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!!!"

gFs


13 Nov 10 - 11:05 PM (#3031532)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yo-Ho..Hey, do you have a yahoo, instant messenger downloaded??

GfS


14 Nov 10 - 12:11 PM (#3031916)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

I don't think so. I have a Rogers Yahoo homepage, but I don't think I have the instant messenger thing.


15 Nov 10 - 03:56 AM (#3032424)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Hey, Little Hawk, are you on Mudcat now??

GfS


15 Nov 10 - 04:14 AM (#3032431)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yoo-Hooo!..to Yo-ho...tryin' to connect.....

GfS


15 Nov 10 - 09:46 AM (#3032653)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Here I am.


15 Nov 10 - 08:32 PM (#3033109)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

I missed you..sorry. What town do you live in?

GfS


15 Nov 10 - 11:00 PM (#3033168)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Orillia, Ontario, Canada.

The home of Gordon Lightfoot.

Tim Hortons capital of the world.

Unwed mother capital of Canada.


16 Nov 10 - 01:51 AM (#3033206)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Yo-Ho!..Well I just listened again to your music, on the site you posted....and after thinking it through(all couple of days), I think I have a song to send you, that you could pull off...especially after listening to your rap towards the end of your gig!..You might even like it!!(grin).
It was originally done for a different kind of voice than yours, but I imagined it with your voice...and I thought it would work!(and it should, because I kick ass, in that department!)

I have a lot of other stuff, you may or may not like, i Don't know, only because it is in different styles...including a Long instrumental. I was going to attempt to call you, but it was late...and the number might not have been yours!!!

Hang in there..I think I have a gem for ya'!

GfS


16 Nov 10 - 08:09 AM (#3033397)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST

Believe it when you see it. Lots of build-up here so far.


16 Nov 10 - 12:39 PM (#3033632)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

L.H......Check your E-mail, from Doc.

GfS


16 Nov 10 - 01:14 PM (#3033666)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Got it. Thanks!


16 Nov 10 - 01:37 PM (#3033686)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Good!!...Now that that's done, and its better than 'over the phone', let me know how you liked it...and if you can do it!..(I think you can).

GfS


16 Nov 10 - 03:32 PM (#3033779)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Yes, indeedy. Thanks likewise.


16 Nov 10 - 05:01 PM (#3033847)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanitty

Little Hawk, Let me know if you got the music, that I sent with the pics. I'm not sure if the music files made it through. That's why I normally would use 'Yahoo Messenger'.

GfS


17 Nov 10 - 11:58 AM (#3034418)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Hey, Did it all come through OK??

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 01:56 AM (#3035688)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

OK, Little Hawk..Where'd you go?

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 03:04 AM (#3035713)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Hey, the pictures came through okay, but the music won't play for some reason. It looks like it came through but it won't play. No idea what the problem is, and I've been too busy to follow up on it.

I guess we'll have to try some other method.


19 Nov 10 - 12:04 PM (#3036017)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Hey, I'll try pulling the music from a different program...and see if it goes through.....check your mail...I'll just send two songs, this time...if it works let me know, and I'll send more....

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 12:20 PM (#3036038)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Okay.


19 Nov 10 - 12:39 PM (#3036055)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

...still loading....send it there as soon as its done. Tell me if you can open it.

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 12:40 PM (#3036056)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

I lied...I'll send three.....if it will take it

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 01:25 PM (#3036086)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Files were to big for mail...I'll try to put them in MP3..but will come back and do them later. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I WILL do it..but have to be somewhere, right now...

Regards,

GfS


19 Nov 10 - 01:29 PM (#3036089)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Okay. I'll be out for a bit too.


20 Nov 10 - 01:06 PM (#3036806)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Lonesome EJ

Have you two considered exchanging email addresses? I mean, God knows we all are interested in how this comes out and all, but it would seem to be more efficient.


20 Nov 10 - 01:13 PM (#3036810)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Little Hawk

Yeah, we have exchanged email addresses and we are using them. We're continuing to talk here anyway, though...just to see if the rest of you simply can't control your impulse to click on this thread and read it, even though it has no bearing on your real life whatsoever.


21 Nov 10 - 01:06 AM (#3037175)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Just a thought...

GfS


26 Apr 11 - 02:10 AM (#3142433)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

I had a 'brain-fart' of an idea.....and being as this is my 'online family' (even my own rarely takes my advice, either..but wants me to get them out of the jams they get into..), how about this: We set a time, and for those who have 'Yahoo Messenger' (for those who don't, its an easy down load)..we get a 'conference room' and I can play you some original material, some even live, and others can share some of theirs?
I know that a few of you have expressed interest in hearing some of it, and I'd be game for that!...Let's get feedback....sorta a online concert, 'Free'....and I'm not sure its been done like this before..online!..How 'bout it???

GfS

P.S. That way we can hear stuff, without posting it online...and I figure that most everybody their will be 'Catters', though, its open to all.


26 Apr 11 - 02:13 AM (#3142435)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Correction: In the 'P.S.' It should read, "and I figure that most everybody THERE..."

GfS


26 Apr 11 - 02:36 AM (#3142441)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: The Fooles Troupe

"and I'm not sure its been done like this before..online!"

Wrong! I participated in Open Mike's sessions years ago ...


26 Apr 11 - 02:42 AM (#3142442)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Well, I said, "I'm not SURE if...."

You up for it?

GfS


26 Apr 11 - 11:14 AM (#3142678)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Bill D

maybe 12 years ago, we did "HearMe" when it was free, and traded songs live..


26 Apr 11 - 08:16 PM (#3143073)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

I've done stuff like this, too..but in a 'chat room'...I thought it might be a good idea for some of use to share our wares...and so far, all people want to do is 'discuss' that it was done on such and such date. we can play live, or play recorded stuff of ours, primarily for fellow Mudcatters...again, anyone up for it??


GfS


26 Apr 11 - 08:30 PM (#3143079)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Lox

99


26 Apr 11 - 08:30 PM (#3143080)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: Lox

100 .. he he


27 Apr 11 - 08:53 AM (#3143343)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: The Fooles Troupe

Change hands...


27 Apr 11 - 11:56 AM (#3143450)
Subject: RE: BS: Calling GfS......
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity

Fools Troupe: "Change hands..."

Maybe if you used Vaseline you wouldn't wear them out so fast!
Wink!

Actually, I didn't get what you meant. I probably should post this on the 'musical' side....(not the 'hand; thing.

GfS