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27 Aug 99 - 04:40 PM (#109104) Subject: Welsh Macaronics From: Annraoi Does anyone out there have any examples of songs where Welsh and English are mixed, and I don't mean occasional words ? I'd be grateful for any help. Annraoi |
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23 Nov 99 - 06:57 PM (#140098) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Welsh Macaronics From: fiosrach I'm curious too |
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23 Nov 99 - 07:25 PM (#140107) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Welsh Macaronics From: Jon Freeman I hit Marian with a frying pan - a saucepan wasn't any good. Or My hen caught a haddock and had it for tea but she didn't like it and gave it to me... I'll have to ask my dad for those ones. I can't speak Welsh but proably the most common one for mixing up languages is the counting goats song It gets good when it gets to navy-blue by which time the Welsh words for colours seem to have been forgotten. Jon |
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24 Nov 99 - 12:51 PM (#140321) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Welsh Macaronics From: Llanfair International Velvet---Catatonia. All the kids here who are learning welsh sing and talk in both languages, often mixed up. They think I'm a total idiot because I don't understand. Hwyl Bron. |
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25 Nov 99 - 05:10 AM (#140577) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Welsh Macaronics From: Sian There are quite a few: Can Merthyr - My wife did go to dinner, Cig moch a palfais wether; She did eat the cig, gave me the cawl - A dyna'i chi ddiawl o bartner. 'Ei Di'r Deryn Du: 'Ei di'r deryn du, To my dearest love? O cais fy nhgangen gu, For I'm so deep in love. (I like this one a lot - lovely tune, very sad.) And some others. The publications of the Welsh Folk Song Society are your best bet, as they (all?) have explanatory historical notes in English and in Welsh. The above are in Canu'r Cymry Vol 1 (ISBN 0 90042658 6. There's also a second volume (can't remember if there are any macaronics in it). The Society has published quite a lot, so the sources *are* available. If you have any specific queries, let me know, and I'll get in touch with people who know these things! You can order books from Dyfrig Thomas at www.preseli.com/siopywerin or through the Welsh Books Council (sorry, don't have the URL to hand) |