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22 Jan 11 - 08:23 AM (#3079947) Subject: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: mikesamwild Nice to see the old mellow yellow man is to be honoured in February for a lifetime award, and he survived! Well done . OBE next or Sir Don? |
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22 Jan 11 - 08:31 AM (#3079952) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Silas Oh, don't start me off again... |
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22 Jan 11 - 08:34 AM (#3079954) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: mikesamwild Sorry Silas I did search for it but it was lost in the other thread. |
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22 Jan 11 - 08:58 AM (#3079970) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Absolutely....so much better than all that traditional rubbish..Ho! Ho! (chuckle) |
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22 Jan 11 - 09:44 AM (#3079992) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Dave Hanson Spot on Al, who wants to listen to real music when you can listen to Donovan's hippy drippy airy fairy stuff. Dave H |
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22 Jan 11 - 09:53 AM (#3079997) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Far out man! are you blocked.......? |
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22 Jan 11 - 09:57 AM (#3080001) Subject: Add: Sunny Goodge Street (Donovan) From: GUEST,Big Norman Voice Whaddya mean hippy drippy :) SUNNY GOODGE STREET (Donovan) On the firefly platform on sunny Goodge Street Violent hash-smoker shook a chocolate machine Involved in an eating scene. Smashing into neon streets in their stonedness Smearing their eyes on the crazy cult goddess Listenin' to sounds of Mingus mellow fantastic. "My, my", they sigh, "My, my", they sigh. In doll house rooms with coloured lights swingin' Strange music boxes sadly tinklin' Drink in the sun shining all around you. "My, my", they sigh, "My, my", they sigh, mm mm. "My, my", they sigh, "My, my", they sigh. The magician, he sparkles in satin and velvet, You gaze at his splendour with eyes you've not used yet. I tell you his name is Love, Love, Love. "My, my", they sigh, "My, my", they sigh. "My, my" - sigh. |
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22 Jan 11 - 10:41 AM (#3080031) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ed Dave Hanson, Could you please define 'real music'? Reading your posts, anything that you don't particularly like is condemned as being 'shite' Can you not accept that, even if something isn't to your taste, it may have some merit? Or does everything that you don't like have to be hated and bollocks? Ed PS Please learn the meaning of 'oxymoron' before posting further incorrect uses of the term. Thank you. |
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22 Jan 11 - 11:13 AM (#3080046) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Wow! people getting up....... |
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22 Jan 11 - 11:19 AM (#3080049) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Sorry that should read: WOW! People getting really hung up......... |
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22 Jan 11 - 11:48 AM (#3080063) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ed WOW! People getting really hung up..... If that's aimed at me, Alan, not so. Live and let live, eh? The angry conclusion that anything that is not of one's taste becomes 'shite' irks me. That's all, and they are the losers... |
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22 Jan 11 - 12:00 PM (#3080065) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Noooo! Not aimed at anyone. Dave didn't actually say shite. He might have meant it, but thats not for us to guess. Personally I loved Donovan's stuff - although I don't very often sing or listen to it these days. On my 17th birthday, there was this wonderful programme on telly that I'd looked forward to for weeks. Donovan playing a J45 on St Ives beach surrounded by gorgeous sixties chicks, dressed by Courege. Basically my life has been downhill all the way, ever since. |
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22 Jan 11 - 12:31 PM (#3080089) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: breezy What a waste of an award There are far more deserving individuals Derek Brimstone Harvey Andrews Roy Bailey Martyn W-R Jez Lowe Andy Irvine Vin Garbutt - yeah Archie Fisher and I'm sure you can think of others, please do Donovan was a commercial answer to Bob Dylan but nowhere near, bit like the Monkeys to the Beatles !!! nah the Monkies could play , well if only a little His contribution to folk literature pales into insignificance compared with George Papavgeris Mellow yellow my .... Live and let live by all means but lets not have lifetime achievements be so cheaply awarded But thats the BBC, short sighted, narrow minded, ignorant and detatched from the lives of real folk people |
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22 Jan 11 - 01:19 PM (#3080110) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Spleen Cringe Personally speaking, I'm just mad about Saffron... |
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22 Jan 11 - 01:34 PM (#3080122) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Acorn4 Most, if not all, of his good stuff was written 40 years ago; listened to him recently and he's still crawling along the seabed with his starfish - surely this makes a bit of a mockery of giving a "lifetime" award. You could create a "past glories" award, I suppose. |
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22 Jan 11 - 01:56 PM (#3080140) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Bonzo3legs Sorry but I'm a real folk man and I can't stand the lefty rantings of people like Roy Bailey. I heard an Andy Irvine gig from Irish radio last October and it was awful. Good for Donovan. |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:12 PM (#3080143) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: George Papavgeris I don't normally like to bitch, but for once I feel I have to. I agree with Acorn4, the "lifetime" label is totally inappropriate, as Donovan has done very little of any worth in the last 25 years, or near as dammit the recent half of his lifetime. And I also agree with breezy's list of names that are much more deserving than Donovan. Shame, beause such awards devalue the concept. |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:36 PM (#3080153) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Dave Hanson Hey guest Ed, I've got one of Big Al Whittles CDs and it's brilliant. I also don't like Beethoven but recognise him as a great composer. You seem to be taking my comments personally, why is that ? Dave H |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:42 PM (#3080155) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Silas George, you are so right, I have been saying exactly the same thing since it was announced. |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:47 PM (#3080158) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle I dunno dave....they just don't recognise the brilliance of our insightful comments. I think it could be that we're too boldly incisive, too avant gard. Don't worry, they'll catch up with us and when we're dead they'll be sorry they were so mean. but in the mean time, we may as well try and catch the wind.... |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:47 PM (#3080159) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: brezhnev hey, what's wrong with crawling along the seabed with starfish? all this negativity is giving me the blues like gypsy dave never had. |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:53 PM (#3080164) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Dave Higham I was tempted to rant, but then I saw Acorn4's post. So then I was going to agree with him but George did it for me. So having a couple of hippy-drippy top-of the-popsy 'hits' and managing to live off them for the rest of your life merits a lifetime achievement award. Sheesh! |
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22 Jan 11 - 02:56 PM (#3080167) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie I really don't understand why people are getting so vexed about this award. Donovan fits in perfectly in the Mike Harding remit. An artist that old people might vaguely remember from the sixties who might have been considered a "Folkie" (define please...Oh no, please don't!) Don't you all realise that the award is only there to enable the Mike Harding/John Leonard show to renew next years contract? Absolutely nothing to do with promoting English Music. I could name 50 English people who are more deserving of an award, and you could do the same. But, Smooth Operations is pandering to X Factor listeners. Bums on seats, etc. What amazes me. is that you are all so surprised! Did you really think that Doc Rowe, Scan Tester, Tufty Swift, would be awarded with anything??? Of course not. It'll be someone (preferably American) who happens to be on tour in February, and John Leonard knows their management company. Smooth Operations are trying to keep their programme. That is all. We all know who should win "gongs" but they never will! It's actually good fun over the Christmas holidays, playing the "Which fatuous Amrerican is going to win this year" game!" Turns out that It's Donovan next month. Ah well, could have been worse..Incredible String Band anybody? |
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22 Jan 11 - 03:00 PM (#3080170) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Nice hear someone remember Tufty Swift.... |
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22 Jan 11 - 03:14 PM (#3080185) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie Tufty? But of course...One of the best! |
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22 Jan 11 - 03:21 PM (#3080190) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Brakn I got Donovan's autograph in 1965 so there. As for him getting the award - no I don't think so. Peter Sarstedt next and then Peter and Gordon. |
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22 Jan 11 - 03:53 PM (#3080208) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Spleen Cringe Thanks for the link Brezhnev. A wonderful song. Nice period footage. Coming back at you with this excellently deranged cover version. On the whole I prefer Mick Softley, though: Ship |
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22 Jan 11 - 04:02 PM (#3080215) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle In the 1980's Tufty, John Gil (producing) and that guy who sings on the boats in Hull did an album in my shed. It was out on Topic called You'll Never Die for Love. They were a jolly little group. I remember when they finished I made them all beans on toast. I was very shocked when I heard he'd died. As you say, a really super bloke. As for the Donovan business - really who gives a vacant bumhole. donovan obviously did what he could, and he was respectful at the time to the folkscene. I remember on that TV programme I was talking about, he played Jansch's Running from Home, which was a respectful nod to the folkscene proper. They can give him the Victoria Cross for all I care. |
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22 Jan 11 - 04:05 PM (#3080219) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie The Boat man was probably Jim Eldon...Another life-time achievement award if ever I saw one...Not going to happen though. |
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22 Jan 11 - 04:15 PM (#3080224) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Yes jim Eldon! out of interest, who are you ralphie? Have we met? |
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22 Jan 11 - 04:31 PM (#3080243) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle perhaps we ought have our own honours system. Not talking about these factionalist organisations like Cecil Sharp - but just people who've been around the folkscene: contributed; organised, made creative effort, taught, encouraged, mentored. |
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22 Jan 11 - 04:51 PM (#3080261) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: brezhnev That Butthole Surfers cover is fab, Spleen Cringe. Way dowwwwwwwwwn below the ocean... |
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22 Jan 11 - 05:38 PM (#3080288) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie Hi Alan...Yes, I'm sure our paths have crossed! (over the decades!) Check out www.the-attic-tapes.co.uk for more info! (You can buy a CD too If you want it. (wasn't nominated for the awards obviously, hence my bitterness Lol!) |
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22 Jan 11 - 05:40 PM (#3080289) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie Did a wonderful session with Mr Eldon, on one of the pleasure boats off Flanborough Head in January! Bloody Freezing!. That was for Andy Kershaw. 2002? ish? |
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22 Jan 11 - 05:44 PM (#3080293) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: LadyJean "Ye sons of England who once were free Now are slaves of the factory. Those who live in the land of mole. Only wish to own your soul" Airy Fairy hippie dippie? |
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22 Jan 11 - 06:18 PM (#3080318) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle I bet bourgeoisie are shitting themselves when Donovan's in town. I think I'll storm the palace gates right now. Look the guy's got his lifetime award. Personally I don't begrudge him it. But lets stay in the land of the vaguely sensible. I accept the gift of his song from a flower to a garden. In fact I'm one of the resident slugs. But its iike winnie the pooh. Stuck in 100acre wood. Piglet got to go out of the wood. I think Donovan is best left there with Eeyore and Kanga. |
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22 Jan 11 - 06:58 PM (#3080331) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Folkiedave Folk Awards John Leonard is set next to Controller BBC2 who knows nothing about folk music. Who are these people winning things? Folkies, Mr. Controller. And this Lifetime achievement award? Donovan, Mr. Controller. Ah yes I have heard of him, well done Mr. Leonard have another contract. Actually I think they got a 3-year contract last year. |
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22 Jan 11 - 07:37 PM (#3080349) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: brezhnev I bet bourgeoisie are shitting themselves when Donovan's in town Dave Spart returns! Brilliant! |
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23 Jan 11 - 04:44 AM (#3080492) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: breezy how could I have overlook Eric Bogle |
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23 Jan 11 - 05:27 AM (#3080505) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,folkiedave It goes to someone the High Ups/Controller of Radio 2 has heard of. That's the criteria. We might not like it, we certainly probably won't agree with it and we may be able to think of hundreds of more worthy recipients. But that is the criteria. |
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23 Jan 11 - 06:06 AM (#3080514) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: bradfordian To put it into context, previous worthies:- 2010 Lifetime Achievement Award: Nanci Griffith Lifetime Achievement Award: Dick Gaughan 2009 Lifetime Achievement Award: James Taylor Lifetime Achievement Award: Judy Collins 2008 Lifetime Achievement Award: John Martyn 2007 Lifetime Achievement Award: Pentangle Lifetime Achievement Award: Danny Thompson 2006 Lifetime Achievement Award: Paul Brady Lifetime Achievement Award: Richard Thompson 2005 Lifetime Achievement Award: Ramblin' Jack Elliott Lifetime Achievement Award (Songwriting): Tom Paxton 2004 Lifetime Achievement Award: Dave Swarbrick Lifetime Achievement Award (Songwriting): Steve Earle 2003 Lifetime Achievement Award: Christy Moore Lifetime Achievement Award (Songwriting): John Prine 2002 Lifetime Achievement Award: The Chieftains Lifetime Achievement Award (Songwriting): Ralph McTell Lifetime Achievement Award: Fairport Convention 2001 Lifetime Achievement Award: Bert Jansch source: wikipedia (PS: Thought Steve Earle was a "country boy") |
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23 Jan 11 - 06:09 AM (#3080517) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Silas So, the criterea is 'Someone the Controller of BBC2 has heard of'? OK. Robbie Williams next year then? - Just about as much relavence as Donovan. |
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23 Jan 11 - 06:42 AM (#3080529) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie One thing to remember is that the show is called " The Mike Harding Show". It ceased to be "Folk On Two" over a decade ago. It's connection with grass roots folk music ceased at that point, It's an entry level programme for all those listeners may continue listening after the Drivetime show. It's not in their remit to play anything that will scare the horses is it. And what Dave Eyre says above is basically correct. The Life Time award will always go to someone that a) The controller has heard of, and b) someone who will provide a decent photo opportunity at the ceremony. c) someone who is on tour at the time that we can get cheap. Call me a cynic......"You're a cynic!!!" |
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23 Jan 11 - 07:35 AM (#3080548) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Gail My problem with this award is that no matter which way it's perceived, whether it's for a lifetime's achievement in folk, soft-pop, flower power, being well known, still being alive, I can't see that Donovan stands out in any way. |
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23 Jan 11 - 07:42 AM (#3080554) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: mikesamwild So lets have the Mudcat poll for various categories.Can it be set up where you trawl for a list Then put it up for votes unseen - then it comes up as a running total, like spiral earth do? |
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23 Jan 11 - 07:51 AM (#3080559) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Well obviously best folk dance music has got to be SClub7. |
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23 Jan 11 - 08:06 AM (#3080565) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Smedley Keep up, Alan, they broke up *years* ago. |
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23 Jan 11 - 08:12 AM (#3080570) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Vic Smith It's not that Donovan has been given the award.... he clearly deserves it. It is just that he has been given it now before all those much more deserving people who, like Donovan, have devoted themselves selflessly all their lives to the promotion of folk music. How can it be Donovan's turn to be given the 'Lifetime Achievement' Award when there are people and acts that have done so much more spending their lives promoting folk music? I am thinking of the likes of The Seekers, Dusty Springfield, Mary Hopkins, Rolf Harris, Charlie Drake, Pinky & Perky, The Muppets, Roland Rat, Sparky's Talking Piano, Hopalong Cassidy..... the list goes on and on. |
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23 Jan 11 - 08:40 AM (#3080586) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Now you're just being silly. |
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23 Jan 11 - 08:46 AM (#3080589) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: WalkaboutsVerse As I've suggested here, another pop-goes-the-folk-singer award/another blow to tradition. |
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23 Jan 11 - 09:21 AM (#3080604) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan Whittle Well the occasional blow job.... |
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23 Jan 11 - 09:59 AM (#3080623) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie WAV...It's not a blow to anything. The tradition will survive. It's just a marketing excercise. Nothing for an Australian to get worried about. |
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23 Jan 11 - 10:57 AM (#3080644) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: john f weldon This Canuck loves Donovan and always has, even when he's being ridiculous. At his most absurd, "Remember the Alamo" on his first album. But I love it nonetheless. All of it. Bravo British Folk Awards. |
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23 Jan 11 - 11:01 AM (#3080647) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: breezy And there was Stan Rogers Did I see Bob Dylan's name on the list of previous recips or Pete Seeger's |
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23 Jan 11 - 11:17 AM (#3080659) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Alan whittle I once saw William Boyd who played Hopalong Cassidy. he didn't hop. why was he called Hopalong. did he sing? he had a horse called topper. At the end of each show on telly, he used to laugh in a very loud manner. I tried to laugh like him. he was a minor influence on me, but I can't see how he would get a lifetime award. Apart from me, i can't think of nny other folksingers he influenced. And Richard bridge says I'm not even a folksinger. As for your other nominations, many of them are puppets and do not actually sing. |
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23 Jan 11 - 12:08 PM (#3080712) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: WalkaboutsVerse Ralphie: I'm an English repat. - actually born in Manchester the day Alf Ramsey's English team won the World Cup of Football; and, coming into folk music after majoring in anthropology, I'm supposed to know what to look for - who's fighting the good fight, etc. When people lose their own culture, society suffers and our world becomes less-and-less multicultural; or in verse - http://walkaboutsverse.webs.com/#209 |
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23 Jan 11 - 05:36 PM (#3080980) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: NormanD Donovan, as you all should know, actually came up with the idea of a "Lifetime Achievement Award" at least fifteen years ago, when he and his buddy Gypsy Davey were in discussion with the Controller of BBC Radio2 at a TM hangout in India. Donovan was teaching him how to finger pick at the time. Amongst his already existing lifetime achievements, Donovan was wearing a little denim cap *way* before Dylan had even thought about wearing one, drone drone drone (if you've ever seen him in an interview). |
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23 Jan 11 - 05:49 PM (#3080989) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Doug Saum My, my. Some very protective notions of what constitutes true folk music in this thread. Why don't we all take a deep breath and remember Moe Asch's (of Folkways Records, NYC)definition of folk music? (i. e. any music from the folk, thus any music). Congratulations, Mr. Leitch. Doug Saum |
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23 Jan 11 - 06:00 PM (#3080999) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie Wav. Yes, I know about the Ramsey stuff. God almighty you've told us enough times. What has that got to do with an English awards event? do you know, when I'm feeling really depressed at my ability to play music...I go to your my space page...I instantly realise that I'm not that bad. |
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23 Jan 11 - 07:41 PM (#3081057) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: s&r There is something of the Messiah about your projected self-image David - He had a star, which probably trumps a football. However, being born 200miles away from a football match qualifies your life's mission in no way: it is irrelevant. As for your study of folk music and matters, your degree (anthropology and fork lift) was out of date and probably forgotten when you gave up 'poetry' and took to folk about four or five years ago. This makes you rather less knowledgeable and experience than I would guess nine out of every ten mudcatters. Regards Stu (ps - should you surrender your Aussie passport and driving licence to be a 'repat'? |
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23 Jan 11 - 08:02 PM (#3081072) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Guest Betsy What the fuck has he done these last 30 years ? 30 years is almost half a life time . Nonsense |
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24 Jan 11 - 02:09 AM (#3081205) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Harry the dirty dog is this Jason Donovan? Well, that's fair enongh he should win a folk award. Consider: - he plays an acoustic guitar (folk) - he dated a pixie (pysch-folk) - he starred in a programme all about folk (Neighbours) - erm... that's it. Maybe they should give it to Jimmy Page instead; afterall he wrote many a fine folk song. Or David "Bull" Mer - he owns LOADs of folk records. Or WAV - he's a terrible poet, like my dog, who eats folk's slippers. Or Prince Charles - he always seems nice enough and doesn't like new buildings much. That's pretty folk. I don't remember the verse in Little Musgrave where they stopped to admire the new stable block. |
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24 Jan 11 - 05:40 AM (#3081254) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: the spotlight kid i am pleased that he is finally being recognised for his outstanding contribution to music in general. he influenced so many people to pick up an instrument.with this and roy harper doing the itv legends real talent is being recognised. |
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24 Jan 11 - 06:26 AM (#3081282) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,songthrush of course he should get a lifetime achievement award, rumour has it that he once did a gig in a folk club |
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24 Jan 11 - 01:03 PM (#3081516) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: The Sandman I like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRxKl0zz2tE and there was an even better one[rainbow quest] with rev gary davis encountering the Sitar for the first time. Ralph Jordan why do you have to be so rude to people? your comment to WAV was uncalled for and unpleasant. |
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25 Jan 11 - 02:27 AM (#3081913) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Lonesome EJ Any one who could produce the stellar I Love my Jeans is deserving of whatever badge of honor they lay on him. So what if he's no Dylan; does the world deserve two ? I like Don, though calling him Don is a bit like calling Liberace "Lee". |
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25 Jan 11 - 08:29 AM (#3082022) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Mick Woods A fantastic writer, player and performer. I saw him many times between 1969 and 2005. You lot may like slagging the man who wrote so many great songs including Mellow Yellow,Colours, Hurdy Gurdy Man, Catch the Wind, Laléna, Epistle to Dippy, Sunshine Superman, There Is a Mountain,Jennifer Juniper, Wear Your Love Like Heaven, Season of the Witch, Atlantis, To Susan on the West Coast Waiting, Barabajagal,Riki Tiki Tavi,Intergalactic Laxative and hundreds more great songs. But I hold up my pint and say "Thanks Donovan for all the beauty that you created!" |
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25 Jan 11 - 04:06 PM (#3082303) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,mg Did he write Moon Shadow? I really like that..mg |
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25 Jan 11 - 04:50 PM (#3082329) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Tootler When I saw the title of the thread, I guessed what the tone of the content would be. I was not wrong. The BBC Folk awards should not be taken too seriously, they are a bit of publicity, that's all. Donovan may not be your cup of tea, it's only a matter of personal taste, so good luck to him I say! I don't have any of his records and won't be buying any but I don't begrudge him his award. |
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25 Jan 11 - 04:55 PM (#3082335) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: WalkaboutsVerse "Wav. Yes, I know about the Ramsey stuff. God almighty you've told us enough times." Ralphey...only about as many times as you've called me " an Australian" - as in "Nothing for an Australian to get worried about" (on this thread)...if you are so sure of your stance, why must you use this distraction tactic? And Stu: we've also been through the visit/passport issue ad nauseum. "Or WAV - he's a terrible poet, like my dog, who eats folk's slippers" (Harry the dirty dog)...cheers, but I don't digest slippers (nor hair-of-the-dog), and could only ever accept an English Folk Award from an EBC. MG - Cat. |
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25 Jan 11 - 04:56 PM (#3082336) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Smedley Moon Shadow was Cat Stevens, I think. He'll be up for the award next year! |
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25 Jan 11 - 06:41 PM (#3082403) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Derek Schofield Mick Woods - the quality of his song writing, singing, performing is not the issue. It's all about his eligibility for a Lifetime Achievement Award at the BBC Radio 2 FOLK awards. I remember seeing him on Top of the Pops in the 60s when I was still at school. I never imagined him to be a folk singer. :-) Derek |
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25 Jan 11 - 06:48 PM (#3082407) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: s&r WAV I have no doubt that if you were ever given a folk award from an EBC or an ABC there would be a thread with screams of indignation on Mudcat. And in common with a few others I would rather listen to Donovan than WAV. But keep practising, I'm sure you will improve. Stu |
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26 Jan 11 - 03:50 AM (#3082546) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Mick Woods That's yout choice - to me he is and always has been a folk singer! |
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26 Jan 11 - 04:56 AM (#3082565) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Silas Just to be clear. This is a lifetime achievement award. It is presented by the BBC via BBC Radio 2 and Smooth Ops. Now, can I just ask, if Donovan has been such a big part of UK folk music, when was the last time that Fo2 or whatever you call it these days, played one of his songs? |
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26 Jan 11 - 05:26 AM (#3082573) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Twickfolk I hope the poster above who says "I thought Steve Earle was a 'country boy'" had his/her tongue firmly in their cheek. |
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26 Jan 11 - 05:29 AM (#3082575) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Steve Shaw If I want to know whether someone's a folk singer or not I always look at the top end of their guitar. If there are three of those twirly knob thingies sticking out on each side it's a folk singer. But if all the knob thingies are on one side in a sort of slanty row it's a rock star. Easy. Unless it's Billy Bragg. There's always one awkward sod, isn't there? |
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26 Jan 11 - 08:42 AM (#3082658) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST,Ralphie Good for Donovan. Not my cup of tea. Haven't seen him in any folk club in the last 30 years. It's so simple. Smooth Operations/Mike Harding Show are desperate to keep their programme. With the announcement that the BBC are getting rid of a qurter of it's staff. (about 600 people sacked) We should all be glad that the Folk Awards have survived at all. And the reason that they have, is that John Leonard is a savvy person..who bends with the wind...(to quote Donovan!) Keep the management satisfied. Keep your contract... Result! Not my way, but...Hey...You can't blame them. It's their job after all. |
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26 Jan 11 - 08:46 AM (#3082662) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: Dave Hanson John Leonard bends with the wind ? that's the description of a man of straw, yes I suppose it's correct. Dave H |
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26 Jan 11 - 09:25 AM (#3082679) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: WalkaboutsVerse "WAV I have no doubt that if you were ever given a folk award from an EBC or an ABC there would be a thread with screams of indignation on Mudcat. And in common with a few others I would rather listen to Donovan than WAV. But keep practising, I'm sure you will improve" (Stu)... I haven't tuned into the ABC (nor waltzed a matilda anywhere abroad, for that matter) since 1997; but, yes, I will "keep practising" my very English repertoire. |
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14 Jun 17 - 04:07 PM (#3860884) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: GUEST disagree you obviously haven't heard many of his later albums just the singles maybe? I totally agree all the others are deserving as well.... |
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14 Jun 17 - 05:49 PM (#3860895) Subject: RE: Donovan Lifetime award from BBC 2 From: The Sandman I suppose they will be giving Dylan an award soon, Donovan is a better finger picker guitarist. |