18 Feb 11 - 06:04 AM (#3097798) Subject: Tune Req: Here's to you Tom Brown From: MartinRyan Quick question - can anyone point me to a sound file for this (aka The Card Song?). The DT MIDI appears to be dead. Regards |
18 Feb 11 - 06:16 AM (#3097807) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Here's to you Tom Brown From: Joe Offer Hmmm. It doesn't work at Yet Another Digital Tradition, either - but you'll find notation there. Reinhard has a nice page on the song here (click) - but alas, no MIDI. Well, come to think of it, the MIDI in the DT does work - it's just a bit slow on the tempo. Click here. -Joe- And, for the sake of further discussion, here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song: King Takes the Queen, TheDESCRIPTION: "The King will take the Queen, But the Queen will take the knave, And since we're in good company, More liquor let us have. Here's to you, Tom Brown, and to you me jolly soul." As cards take cards, so each reminds the singer of a happy lifeAUTHOR: unknown EARLIEST DATE: before 1839 (broadside, Bodleian Firth b.25(96)) KEYWORDS: drink cards nonballad game FOUND IN: Britain(England(North,South),Scotland(Aber)) Ireland REFERENCES (5 citations): Kennedy 283, "Tam Broon" (1 text, 1 tune) GreigDuncan3 571, "Tam Broon" (1 text, 1 tune) Kidson-Tunes, pp. 159-160, "The Card Song" (1 text, 1 tune) Tunney-StoneFiddle, pp. 64-66, "Tam Brown" (1 text) Silber-FSWB, p. 232, "Tom Brown" (1 text) Roud #884 BROADSIDES: Bodleian, Firth b.25(96), "Tom Brown" ("The deuce take the cards, for they give me the gripes"), J. Catnach (London), 1813-1838 LOCSinging, sb40522a, "Tom Brown" ("The King will take the Queen"), H. De Marsan (New York), 1859-1860 ALTERNATE TITLES: With All My Heart The Card Song The Cards The Two Beats the One NOTES: Tunney-StoneFiddle has the song in a Mummers' Play. Broadside LOCSinging sb40522a: H. De Marsan dating per Studying Nineteenth-Century Popular Song by Paul Charosh in American Music, Winter 1997, Vol 15.4, Table 1, available at FindArticles site. - BS Last updated in version 3.0 File: FSWB232 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2016 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. Be sure to take a look at the information that Reinhard has collected at https://mainlynorfolk.info/lloyd/songs/cardplayingsong.html |
18 Feb 11 - 06:37 AM (#3097818) Subject: ADD Version: Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Joe Offer Oh, and here's a version from the American Memory Collection: Tom Brown. Celebrated parting song. H. De Marsan, Publisher, 38 Chatham Street, N. Y. [n. d.] IMPRINT RELATED NAME(S) SHELF LOCATION LYRICS CELEBRATED PARTING SONG. The King will take the Queen, Repeat. The Jack will take the Ten, The Nine will take the Eight, The Seven will take the Six, The Five will take the Four, The Trè will take the Deux, (two) H. DE MARSAN, Successor to J. ANDREWS, Publisher, dealer in songs and Toy-Books, Paper Dolls &c., 38 Chatham Street, N. Y. |
18 Feb 11 - 07:26 AM (#3097844) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Jim Carroll MacColl used the tune of Card Song for 'Let The Cage Go Down' on the Big Hewer Radio Ballad Jim Carroll |
18 Feb 11 - 07:28 AM (#3097848) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Splott Man Eliza Carthy recorded it on her album Rough Music if that's any help. |
18 Feb 11 - 07:56 AM (#3097862) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: MGM·Lion Interesting that US version has 'Jack' where UK one has 'Knave': cf the snobbish Estella in Dickens' Great Expectations, ch 8: "He calls the knaves, Jacks', this boy! ... and what coarse hands he has! and what thick boots!" Obviously a longstanding, tho now probably defunct, U/non-U distinction. Oddly, I was brought up to say 'knaves', and so still do, by my maternal grandmother, who taught me many card games in childhood, and who, as the wife of a Hoxton grocer in a small way of business, had a cockney accent and was not at all posh. She was also illiterate, but one of the wisest people I have ever known. ~Michael~ |
18 Feb 11 - 10:22 AM (#3097954) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: MartinRyan OK - job done. Thanks to all for for all the help. Ewan McColl's version is available online HERE. Regards |
16 Feb 17 - 01:16 AM (#3839214) Subject: ADD Version: Here's To You, My Jovial Friends From: Joe Offer A friend of mine sent me these lyrics. Anybody know of a version like this? Here's to You, My Jovial Friends Verse 1: Oh, the king will take the queen and the queen will take the jack, And now we're in your company we'll drink to all the pack. Chorus: Here's to you, my jovial friends. Here's to you with all my heart, And now we're in your company, We'll drink before we part Here's to you, my jovial friends. Verse 2: Oh the ten will take the nine and the nine will take the eight, And now we're in your company, we won't go home 'til late. Chorus: Verse 3: Oh the seven will take the six and the five will take the four, And now we're in your company we'll have a bottle more. Chorus: Verse 4: Oh the three will take the two, but the ace will take them all, And now we're in your company, we won't go home at all. Chorus: |
16 Feb 17 - 01:56 AM (#3839216) Subject: ADD Version: Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Joe Offer TOM BROWN (as recorded by Eliza Carthy) Well the king will take the queen and the queen will take the knave And since we're in good company more liquor let us have Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Well the knave will take the ten and the ten will take the nine And since we're in good company now let us have more wine Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Now the nine will take the eight and the eight will take the seven And since we're in good company we'll drink till past eleven Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Well the seven will take the six and the six will take the five And since we're in good company as sure as I'm alive Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Well the five will take the four but the four will take the three And since we're in good company you'll sit beside of me Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Now the three will take the two but the ace will take them all And since we're in good company we won't go home at all Here's to you Tom Brown And to you with all my soul And to you with all my heart And with you I'll take a quart With you I'll drink a drop or two Before that we do part, here's to you Tom Brown Here's to you Tom Brown Source: https://genius.com/Eliza-carthy-tom-brown-lyrics (corrected by Joe Offer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etgDzk5XOvg |
16 Feb 17 - 04:08 PM (#3839374) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Steve Parkes Ah, that's the version I know, Joe. I dn't where the man I learned it from got it; probably the same source as EC. |
16 Feb 17 - 04:23 PM (#3839376) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Joe Offer Hi, Steve - that's the version I know, too. Seems to me, though, that I've heard a "here's to you, my (jolly?) friends" version, too. -Joe- |
16 Feb 17 - 07:42 PM (#3839425) Subject: RE: Origins/Tune: Here's to you Tom Brown (Card Song) From: Reinhard Eliza Carthy learned her version from Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger. |