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03 May 11 - 04:07 PM (#3147253) Subject: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV I could figure them out myself given an hour or two, but really have no spare minutes right now... thanks, everyone. YouTube -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJp5Aw65fE Grooveshark -- http://grooveshark.com/s/Boolavogue/3BUnAz?src=5 (The two links contain the same version of the song -- I just gave both in case someone prefers using one site over the other.) |
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04 May 11 - 01:21 AM (#3147486) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr I could figure them out myself given an hour or two, but really have no spare minutes right now... thanks, everyone. Good luck to you, madam. |
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04 May 11 - 08:09 AM (#3147620) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: threelegsoman Check out my own version on YouTube. As with all my songs I include the lyrics and chord I am using: http://youtu.be/zNUqjPxPOlU |
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18 May 11 - 02:33 PM (#3156449) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV @michaelr: Thanks. :D @threelegsoman: your version, while not exactly what I was looking for, is quite lovely. I'm enjoying watching/listening to your other videos. Alright then, I've been working on the chords myself and have figured them all out except one: the switch that happens on the last syllable of "Shelmalier" (in the second line of the first verse). It's some form of an A chord, I think. A plain old A sounds alright, but that's not what the fellows are playing on the recording, and I'd really like to know just what it is that they're using. Could any of you all give me a bit of help on this? |
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18 May 11 - 03:54 PM (#3156501) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,leeneia Try playing Am when you sing "-lier." It's very handy seeing the chords noted by 3-legs, but sometimes you have to move the chord a bit to the right. Listen for the syllables which are loudest (are stressed), because that's probably the right time to change chords. |
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18 May 11 - 04:00 PM (#3156505) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr It's a G, following Em. |
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18 May 11 - 04:03 PM (#3156511) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,leeneia Ellen, are you following the version sung by threelegsofman, the version that shows the words and chords? |
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18 May 11 - 06:28 PM (#3156633) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV Thanks, leeneia. I was asking about The High Kings' version, found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJp5Aw65fE Michael, I was thinking that it was A-something, following G, but now I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure, though, that I'm hearing an F# in whatever chord it is... maybe it's Gmaj7? |
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18 May 11 - 06:35 PM (#3156640) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr I think the guitarist is using DADGAD tuning, which can be confusing because you rarely hear "clean" major chords - they're all full of "jazzy" notes that sound like major sevenths, suspensions, and the like. But in regular tuning, that second line can be played D - Dmaj7 - Em - G. |
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19 May 11 - 10:17 AM (#3157005) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,leeneia I've never heard the High Kings version. The chords you need depend on the which key you sing it in. And which key you sing it in depends on your voice - how high or low can you go. In the video, threelegoman is singing it in the key of C. Write his chords down. Then figure out what key you are playing in. Say it's D. Write the notes of the scale out, and change the chords for C to the chord below. (I hope they stay put when I press Submit.) C D E F G A B C D E F# G A B C#D C's change to D's, Am changes to Bm, etc. Keep in mind that the High Kings could be playing in an unusual key like B flat to accommodate their voices. The song has a big range - an octave plus 3 notes down. Not everybody can sing it. |
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19 May 11 - 10:40 AM (#3157017) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,leeneia They didn't stay lined up. Write the scale out, with the notes carefully one under another. |
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19 May 11 - 10:46 AM (#3157020) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,Grishka My vote goes to D6. |
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19 May 11 - 01:25 PM (#3157086) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV What do you think of these chords? (I know the line-up will change when I post, but the chord changes should match the stressed syllables.) D Dmaj7 Bm G At Boolavogue, as the sun was setting Dmaj7 Bm Em G (or Gmaj7, depending on my mood) O'er the bright May meadows of Shelmalier D Dmaj7 Bm Gmaj7 A rebel hand set the heather blazing Dmaj7 Bm A Gmaj7 And brought the neighbors from far and near D Dmaj7 Bm G Then Father Murphy, from old Kilcormack Dmaj7 Bm Em G (or Gmaj7) Spurred up the rock with a warning cry D Dmaj7 Bm Gmaj7 "Arm! Arm!", he cried, "for I've come to lead you Dmaj7 Bm A D For Ireland's freedom we'll fight or die" Leeneia, thanks for your help. I'm trying to match specifically The High King's chords -- which, as you can see, has been rather difficult. Compared to some of their other recordings, however (e.g. "Cavan Girl", which I'm currently pulling my hair out over), this one is a piece of cake... Michael, thank you so much for all your help. Now I really must learn to use DADGAD. |
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19 May 11 - 02:49 PM (#3157123) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr You're welcome, Ellen. I think you've got it! You'll have sussed that in the instrumental bit they stick in a C chord. I have recently worked out chords for "Cavan Girl" (not the High Kings version) which I'd be glad to share. |
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19 May 11 - 05:12 PM (#3157197) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,Grishka Not bad, your chords, but not the ones sounding in the YouTube. |
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19 May 11 - 09:58 PM (#3157327) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV I'd love to see your "Cavan Girl" chords, Michael. Grishka, I don't think I can match them any better than that. Have you any tips as to what to change? |
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19 May 11 - 10:17 PM (#3157328) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr See this post on the Cavan Girl thread. |
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20 May 11 - 04:33 AM (#3157420) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,Grishka As Michael pointed out, it has a lot to do with DADGAD tuning. The High Kings play a more or less constant D-A drone on the guitar, to allude to Irish bagpipes (called "uilleann pipes"; DADGBE allows the same effect without too much relearning). If you choose to subtract that, Dmaj7 becomes F#m, and D6 becomes Bm, etc. Here is what I heard, formatted by my songbook software:
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20 May 11 - 12:23 PM (#3157630) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: michaelr Grishka, would you please write out fingering for some of those chords? We know that D is x00232 and Dmaj7 is x00222 (or 200222). How would you play D6 and Dsus24? |
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20 May 11 - 01:17 PM (#3157663) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,Grishka D6 is identical to Bm/D, notes D F# A B. One of many possible fingering is x04432. Dsus24 is D E G A, fingering could be x00030. With all the chords mentioned, a DADGBE tuning gives you a 0 instead of x, and thus a true-green drone. The question of how to present such songs publicly, if at all, is more difficult to answer, frequently discussed at Mudcat. |
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21 May 11 - 02:50 PM (#3158284) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: EllenV Grishka -- I think I'll stick with my chords for ease of playing (I'm not quite an expert guitarist), but I do think that yours are more accurate to the recording. Ah, well. Thanks to both of you for your tremendous help. |
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07 Jan 17 - 07:26 AM (#3830896) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Boolavogue -- The High Kings From: GUEST,themongreldemonpooch Does anyone have the guitar tabs of Cavan Girl by the high kings |