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Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester

09 Sep 11 - 01:17 PM (#3220715)
Subject: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Does anybody know if and how we can get hold of a copy of that movie about "The Blues and Gospel Train in Chorlton, Manchester".

DVD would be prefered so that we can show it through a projector in The Back Bar of The Beech

Cheers

Les (Promotions of Chorlton)


09 Sep 11 - 02:02 PM (#3220730)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Will Fly

Ah, Les, but did it take place in Chorlton...?

But did it...?"

On a more serious note, the film was made by Granada TV, so it might be worth contacting them or their heirs for information on availability.

I recall seeing it on TV at the time - loved it!


09 Sep 11 - 02:58 PM (#3220766)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: GUEST,Hootenanny

Four tracks, two by Muddy Waters and two by Sister Rosetta Tharpe are included on the DVD "The American Folk-Blues Festival2 "The British tours 1963-1966" HIP-O Records B-0008353-09.

Hoot


10 Sep 11 - 03:26 AM (#3220988)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Thanks Ms/Mr Hootennanny, a number of parts of the TV programme occur on Youtube but the whole programme has been show here in Chorlton, Manchester a number of times.

Good point Will, it actually took place one stop along at "Chorlton Wilbraham" which is technically in Whalley Range and was renamed "Chorltonville" for the day. That part of the track was taken up and has been The Fallowfield Loop cycling and walking track for 10 years. Bits of the station can still be seen but nothing much.

It will be 50 years on 2014 and something should be done!

Les


10 Sep 11 - 07:17 AM (#3221057)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Fred McCormick

By 'eck Les, you sure know how to make a guy feel old. I wasn't at the station, although I know someone who was. But I did catch the tour all those years ago at Liverpool Philharmonic.

Forty seven years ago, eh ?. Let me see, I must have been all of three at the time.

BTW. BBC 4 showed a terrific documentary on Sister Rosetta Tharpe a while back, (called The Original Soul Sister (?)), which had some elctrifying footage from that programme.


10 Sep 11 - 07:36 AM (#3221060)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Scarry hey Fred? Just after I discovered the Spinners and turned to a life of debauchery(?) and old songs.

I didn't see it when it came out but because we live in Chorlton now it pops up at local events and we home in on it when it's on TV.

I quite fancy showing old balck & white films in the pub where we sing and play tunes:

here

Any reason to get people in will do - to keep "The Best Little Pub in Chorlton" open really.

Les


10 Sep 11 - 07:41 AM (#3221065)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Fred McCormick

Well, there will be plenty to choose from in this new DVD, Here's a Health To The Barley Mow, including I think, the entire film of the Ship at Blaxhall which Peter Kennedy made in the early '50s.


10 Sep 11 - 08:41 AM (#3221082)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: GUEST,AlanG at work

Mention the Blaxhall Ship and I'm bound to pop up.
I'm currently working in Suffolk (yes on a Saturday) and I'm staying at the Blaxhall Ship.
We had an inpromptu singaround on Wednesday night, another singaroud at the Eels Foot Eastbridge on Thursday night and an Irish music seaaion at the Ship last night. It's so good I won't want to come home.
But if you get the DVD Les, let me know so I can make sure that I'm at the Beech to watch it.

Alan


10 Sep 11 - 08:50 AM (#3221087)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Thanks Fred, great idea! Alan, we will expect a full report illustrated with songs and tunes

Les


11 Sep 11 - 02:06 PM (#3221624)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

So, in search of the Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester

L in C#


11 Sep 11 - 03:00 PM (#3221647)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Phil Edwards

There was a local showing five years ago, according to this page - some names there to chase?


11 Sep 11 - 03:15 PM (#3221657)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Phil Edwards

And a bit more about it here - "the old Alexandra Road station", apparently.


12 Sep 11 - 03:13 AM (#3221779)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: GUEST,Tunesmith

Of course, the tour was called a "caravan" and not a "train".


12 Sep 11 - 04:13 AM (#3221793)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Thanks folks - still searchin

L in C#


12 Sep 11 - 05:06 AM (#3221806)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Spleen Cringe

Is it worth asking at Granada? Or at the Manchester Institute for Popular Culture at the MMU? I think CP Lee who spoke at one of the earlier screenings linked to above has or had something to do with MIPC.


12 Sep 11 - 05:15 AM (#3221807)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Fred McCormick

Try the National Media Museum in Bradford. I don't know whether they rent out documentaries, but I believe they have facilities on their premises, where members of the public can watch them.


12 Sep 11 - 06:27 AM (#3221835)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Will Fly

Les - there's a reference to the film being shown in 2006 by The Manchester Music Archive. The reference it the bottom of this page.

Worth a try, perhaps.


12 Sep 11 - 07:50 AM (#3221860)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Thanks Will - from that page:

"42 years on, it was a long held assumption that the footage no longer existed - in fact Granada TV themselves were understood to not own it. But on a similar damp, wet evening in February of 2006 (approx 1.5 miles from the original station site) and hosted by The Manchester Music Archive, the film was shown to a sell out audience of Blues and R&B fans - compared by local music culture historian CP Lee and with a performance from blues legend Victor Brox"

I have left a message for CP Lee on his facebook today. I think the film was shown as part of our Big Green festival last year and am surprised that no one has come back to me locally with tha answer.

Thanks again

Les
Maybe we will show that new EFDSS DVD instaed?


14 Sep 11 - 08:42 AM (#3223031)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

Ok folks have a promise of the loan of a DVD! More details as and when.

L in C#


04 Feb 12 - 03:46 PM (#3302218)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: GUEST

There was a guy at the Hideaway club selling copies of this, I bought one and lent it out and it came back ruined. If I can track him down I will let you .Terry


05 Feb 12 - 07:07 AM (#3302432)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: Les in Chorlton

I have a copy now which works well. It may be that trying to copy some DVDs destroys them

L in C#


05 Feb 12 - 05:25 PM (#3302736)
Subject: RE: Blues and Gospel Train in Manchester
From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link

i just watched loads of sister roetta on you tube;including the platform songs.what a singer and guitarist.