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Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please

12 Oct 11 - 05:30 AM (#3237677)
Subject: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Quasimodo

Can anyone identify the tune that is on this YouTube Clip:

http://youtu.be/vJcU1llnQPc

Thanks in advance.


12 Oct 11 - 07:08 AM (#3237717)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Little Robyn

Don't know its name but I've heard the Chieftans play it.
Robyn


12 Oct 11 - 07:11 AM (#3237720)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Jack Campin

Ask the uploader? It's obviously been added in editing to a silent clip. I suspect the odd gaps are the result of an editing glitch rather than something in the original tune.


12 Oct 11 - 07:57 AM (#3237745)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

It's Morning Dew which is normally a reel, though the Chieftains give it more of a hornpipe "bounce" and leave some of the notes out (to good effect IMO). So if you find the dots you may wind up with more quavers in the bar than you want, and will have to pick this version out from it. But it's the same tune. It's on one of the earlier Chieftains albums, C's 4 or C's 5 (possibly C's 3) - try looking for a discography.

Interesting to see the photos of Harry Boland, and I didn't know he'd been in Lewes Gaol (wonder if he was around during Bonfire Night and what he'd have made of it). Nice video clips, those.


12 Oct 11 - 07:58 AM (#3237746)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

It's not really an Irish tune, it's an intro the Chieftains played to the Morning Dew. The track is on Chieftains 4 I believe.


12 Oct 11 - 07:58 AM (#3237748)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

x posted


12 Oct 11 - 07:59 AM (#3237749)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

Isn't it? It's in Breathnach's Ceol Rince (vol 1) tho I know that doesn't constitute proof. Where's it from, then?


12 Oct 11 - 08:00 AM (#3237750)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

Me too!


12 Oct 11 - 08:21 AM (#3237755)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

The part I heard in the video was only the intro, that I assume Paddy Moloney put together, it wasn't the Morning Dew as such. In other words, what the pipes are playing there is not the Morning dew.


12 Oct 11 - 08:33 AM (#3237758)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

Yes, I had that problem too - you have to push the play-bar back to the beginning. In fact, I also managed to wander onto the wrong Harry Boland film and get Liebestraume as the backing track - but the video itself was very interesting with a lot of Boland shots I hadn't seen before. Went back and tried again - third time lucky.


12 Oct 11 - 09:29 AM (#3237785)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: MartinRyan

Is it not the first few bars of one of those marches The Chieftains were always fond of?

Regards


12 Oct 11 - 09:42 AM (#3237792)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Manitas_at_home

It does go into the Morning Dew after that but those first few bars sound rather like the Morning Star. I wonder if this was the happy result of a mistake or mishearing ib rehearsal?


12 Oct 11 - 09:45 AM (#3237793)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Jon

No. It's a reel.

I can hear the fiddle playing a bit of the Morning Dew in the second bit of the short clip.

Try this


12 Oct 11 - 09:46 AM (#3237794)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

Anybody got a Chieftains 4 to hand to listen to the whole track? I only heard that YouTube video, but as I say, from the beginning. I haven't seen/heard Chieftains 4 in years - mine is only the old LP which I can't play anymore :-(

That record was the first time I (and a lot of other folks I bet) heard Derek Bell. I wore the grooves off Morgan Magan.


12 Oct 11 - 09:48 AM (#3237799)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Jon

I posted a link to it above, Bonnie.


12 Oct 11 - 09:50 AM (#3237800)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: Bonnie Shaljean

I know - I cross posted and wrote that before I saw either your or Manitas' posts. (Mudcat's slooooooowwww today)


12 Oct 11 - 11:18 AM (#3237848)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

Sorry for creating the apparent confusion, what I meant to say was that the bits you hear in the clip are not an Irish tune, they're an intro, counter melody or whatever you want to call it the Chieftain played on that particular track, The Morning Dew or the Hare in the Heather or whatever name you want to use for the tune. The tune itself is only represented there by the opening bar you can hear the fiddle start towards the end of the clip.


12 Oct 11 - 03:50 PM (#3237973)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: terrier

The Chieftains use this arrangement on their 'Another Country' album CD. It's used as an intro to the song 'Wabash Cannonball' and is in the notes as 'Morning Dew', traditional arrangement by Paddy Molony.

Here on YouTube live Morning Dew


12 Oct 11 - 04:34 PM (#3237993)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Irish Tune ID Please
From: GUEST,Quasimodo

Thanks everyone for your quick responses on the source of that little sound clip.