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16 Oct 11 - 02:39 PM (#3239890) Subject: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: Richard Bridge Ramble Away (@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4868 ) and "Derry Down Fair" (from the Young Tradition) both have a line "So I gave her three doubles and a fair length and share" This sounds faintly bawdy, but does anyone know what it actually means? |
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17 Oct 11 - 02:23 AM (#3240058) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: Paul Burke They had a jolly evening in the pub. "I gave her three doubles" means he conceded her an advantage in a darts game. She started with the conventional double; he had to throw three to start. "Fair length and share": he threw from the oche, she from closer to the board. The alternative is of course three double whiskies. Question: can you have a double of single malt? (Answer I suppose: yes, thanks). |
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17 Oct 11 - 02:33 AM (#3240061) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: MGM·Lion It is actually "Three doubles and fair length and share" - not "a fair length..." Don't suppose this will affect the meaning, but it just might. ~M~ |
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17 Oct 11 - 02:56 AM (#3240065) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: GUEST,999 Stanza three of Rambleaway pretty much explains the meaning, the context of which can be located in the rest of the song. It may be found in the digitrad. I have never understood why British people think of sex in terms of metaphors, no offense. I'm leaving before the bullets. |
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17 Oct 11 - 10:18 AM (#3240220) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: Bob the Postman A chap's reach should be fairly longer than his grasp, 999, or what's a meta for. |
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17 Oct 11 - 11:13 AM (#3240250) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: Richard Bridge Sex was usually referred to by metaphoric allusion in the old days because of hypocritical condemnation of it. There are also of course honourable exceptions as Donne's "License my roving hands, and let them go Before, behind, between, above, below." but then he drifts off into less direct metaphore. And it's somewhat more likely to be productive, I feel, than asking "Can I stick my finger up your ..." |
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17 Oct 11 - 12:55 PM (#3240300) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: GUEST,999 "What's a meta for?" Beat's me. I don't even know what a meta is! |
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17 Oct 11 - 06:19 PM (#3240481) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: ripov I don't know either, but Donne sounds more physical than meta. |
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16 Feb 12 - 05:46 PM (#3309752) Subject: "Smile in my Face" (was) Fair Length & Share From: GUEST,schlimmerkerl So why does he object to her "Smiling in his face"? Seems a friendly gesture. |
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16 Feb 12 - 11:49 PM (#3309859) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: MGM·Lion He doesn't so much 'object' to her smiling in his face, as use the fact of her smiling as an occasion to warn her that he does not intend to be in any way faithful to her; remember the whole couplet: "Do not smile in my face, For I do not intend to stay long in this place". The 'don't' is more a way of saying, "You wouldn't smile like that if you knew me better, & what my plans for you are!" ~M~ |
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17 Feb 12 - 01:54 AM (#3309892) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: GUEST,Paul Burke Look, even a materialist engineer like me can see what's staring you in the face. Rambleaway is a sex- compulsive. He is afraid of making attachments. His partner at Serrydown/ Brummagem/ wherever Fair takes this as a challenge, like women seem to do. He is afraid that he might care about her, risking attachment and (in his mind certain) subsequent rejection. I'll leave the psychologists among you to work out the details. |
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17 Feb 12 - 03:48 AM (#3309912) Subject: RE: 'Fair Length & Share' - meaning? From: Richard Bridge Can anyone translate psychobabble into English? |