03 Oct 99 - 03:36 PM (#120265) Subject: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo Help! Watson my Haggis hound is going mad! he keeps flying around the room and barking. i haven't had him long (well a few years now). Does this mean it is the start of the Haggis hunting season or is he at a difficult age? Any suggestions on how to deal with him would be appreciated |
03 Oct 99 - 04:23 PM (#120276) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: McKnees I always thought the season started once the haggi reverse direction and attempt to walk round the mountains with the two longer legs now closer to the mountain. They then roll down the side of the mountain, known as a Ben, where they are rounded up by the Haggis hounds unless they are at a difficult age, where upon the owners of the Haggis hounds check into the NYCFCP aka the Neil young centre for cronic punners and the hounds go to the dogs. McKnees |
03 Oct 99 - 04:25 PM (#120277) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: wildlone According to Ye Olde Booke of Ye Hunting, Ye Haggi cannot be hunted until ye weeke afore Robbie Burns bithday. 25th Jan, So the season starts 18th Jan. |
03 Oct 99 - 04:34 PM (#120280) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: wildlone For Further informationclickihope this works |
03 Oct 99 - 04:40 PM (#120282) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: wildlone click here try this |
03 Oct 99 - 04:49 PM (#120285) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: wildlone Bugger it!!!CLICK |
03 Oct 99 - 05:03 PM (#120288) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: sophocleese Here in Canada the haggis season starts November 30th when the first kill of the season is celebrated on St. Andrew's day. The celebration at the end of the season is Robbie Burns day. Christmas, which starts on Labour Day Weekend (the first weekend in September) of course overlaps this which is why so many of the decorations and clothes are a festive plaid. Your haggis hounds may have seen their first Christmas decorations appearing in a store and this may be what set them off. It is an understandable confusion. |
03 Oct 99 - 06:12 PM (#120301) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: katlaughing wildlone, I am LMAOWROTF! That was priceless!! |
03 Oct 99 - 06:23 PM (#120304) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Ewan McVicar And some people say that Americans have no sense of no humour! |
03 Oct 99 - 06:31 PM (#120306) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo America? is that anywhere near Sturminster Newton? |
03 Oct 99 - 07:22 PM (#120314) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Big Mick You poor buggers don't seem to know that the name for Ireland in days gone by was Scotia, named after the mother of Amergin, the bard. She was a Chieftain and great warrior. She died in battle when this Milesian Royal family came and settled Ireland. They wrested the land from the Fir Bolg and established the Gaelic culture as the dominant culture in what became Scotia. Generations later a group of these Scotians were driven, or left the North of Ireland and settled in the highlands of what is now Scotland. They established, and after much influence from other groups, became what we now know as the Highland Scot. The languages were even the same until about the seventeenth century. Of course, our Scottish cousins developed a culture that is distinct and unique, and I am proud to claim a certain amount of Scot in my own background. What's the point, within the context of this thread. It is my humble opinion that Nova Scotia is New Ireland. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA.....LOL.............Are we going to have fun with this thread or what???????? I may never be safe in Nova Scotia again. All the best, Big Mick, the mischievious stirrer |
03 Oct 99 - 07:52 PM (#120318) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: katlaughing To be perfectly correct, Mick, wouldn't that be Nova Erin or Eire?**BG** |
03 Oct 99 - 08:28 PM (#120323) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Big Mick Nope, kat, because Eire was known as Scotia long before it was known as Eire. And Scotland was known as Caledonia. After a time, Scotia became known as Eire, and Caledonia became known as Scotia. Eventually, in the English speaking world, Eire Land became Ireland, and Scotia Land became Scotland. I am sure the scholars out there will point out some corrections to my telling, but in the main, it is factual. And by the way, that is my people always say that we gave the Scots the bagpipes and never told them the joke...LOL...Double by the way, we also invented whiskey. The Scots have been making a fair version of it, but if ye want the stuff by the folks who invented it, you will have to drink Irish Whiskey. May I suggest Jamesons premium label? All the best, Big Mick whoisgoingtoreceivedeaththreatsforstartingthisbitofthreadcreepwhentheScotsgetupinafewhours. |
03 Oct 99 - 10:31 PM (#120351) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: WyoWoman Sophocleese, this explains it then. I was just noting today as I drove through a couple of Wyoming towns that many of the local men were dressed in festive plaid, with contrasting festive plaid caps and camouflage pants. I didn't know what to make of it, but now it's completely clear to me: Haggis season has come to Wyoming. Does one have to field dress a haggis, or just schlepp 'em back to the butcher? And is it their coats that are used to make the festive plaid for the next season's hung? Er, hunt. Hunt. That damned Freud's been using my log-on again... ww |
03 Oct 99 - 10:44 PM (#120356) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas It is with regret that I must agree that the historical evidence suggests that whisk(e)y was being made in Ireland for quite some time before Scotland perfected that art, though of course distillation was developed by the Arabs, from whom we get the word "alcohol". Back on topic (nearly), however, it is well-attested that Scotland can with justification lay claim to the Haggis (Haggis Caledoniensis) where Ireland appears to possess no native species of that animal. Saint Patrick is sometimes credited -or blamed, depending on your point of view- for this. The Canadian variant referred to earlier is, strictly speaking, an example of the "mock" haggis (I forget the latin); although there are obvious superficial similarities, they are in fact quite separate species and cannot, so far as research has been able to determine, successfully interbreed. Malcolm |
03 Oct 99 - 10:57 PM (#120358) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: DonMeixner Here in Central New York (State not City) we have a variety of the Haggis that while not generally thot to be a game animal usually not hunted till after the spawn in October. The Haggis run is usually triggered by some warm rains and two frosts in rapib succession. The Haggi , plural of Haggis, Haggis being the singular of Haggi , begin to change color on much the same manner and color of the Maple leaves. This makes the Haggis nearly invisible to the eye when not in motion. Great swarms of Haggi hang about under trees in Hustles. Hustles being the name of the plural swarm of Haggi. Like a herd of cattle. The trigger to make the Hustled Haggi hike hither is usually a wind. The entire Hustle may take off enmasse and by doing so be vertually indestinquishable from the Maple leaves. lately among the Haggis hunters here abouts there has been a Hue and cry about the planned requirement of the migratory Haggis stamp. Haggis Unlimited is planning a protest but the government willout I'm affraid. The stamp is planned to show a hearty Haggis standing on a mountain crag quarter on and viewedfrom below to give a majestic stature to this fine bit of wild game. Even now I can hear the faint sounds of a Hustle of Haggis as they prepare their trek north to the plains of Scarberia. It figures that the Haggis would go north in colder weather. Obviously a part of their Scottish heritage. Regards Don |
03 Oct 99 - 11:22 PM (#120372) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas While it is entirely possible that you have in New York State a "naturalised" (English spelling) community of Haggises ("Haggi" is false etymology) which may have at some point escaped from captivity and bred successfully, I am still firm in my belief that this is a species only recently introduced; your remarks about their migratory behaviour might tend to confirm that. On the other hand, the arboreal habits you describe (particularly with reference to the Maple) are more characteristic of the "mock" haggis I mentioned earlier; the true haggis (Gaelic,"Taigeis") is better adapted to a more-or-less treeless habitat. Malcolm |
03 Oct 99 - 11:38 PM (#120379) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: katlaughing And, would that be the pseudo haggises, then, Malcolm? And, what with the mixing up o'the names an all, tis no wonder m' mither got called "black Irish" when her only known heritage was Scots and English! Ach, wot's a girl ta do, then? ConfuseddescendantoftheNovaScotianCrawfords&ScottishEwingsamangothers*BG* |
03 Oct 99 - 11:47 PM (#120382) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: DonMeixner Malcolm, No doubt you are correct in much you state. Haggi is a local coloquielism and can't be considered the difinitve etymology. I would posit that there is an Arboreal variety just as there are desert shrews there are woodland shrews. The local wiley Haggis is the prefred meal of mainy the ridge runner who can't out gun the Possum or the Whistle pig. Cooked over a fire of hickory and served on a bed of steamed nettles and Wooley Dock. Chased with a glass of Old Stump Blower and nothing is the same ever again. Victuals at their finest. Don |
04 Oct 99 - 12:05 AM (#120386) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Jack Hickman - Kingston, ON Back several threads, someone referred to Scotland as Caledonia. About that period in pre-history, the Romans were referring to what we know as Ireland as Hibernia. Keep the Faith Jack Hickman |
04 Oct 99 - 01:07 AM (#120391) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Big Mick That is another of the names that Ireland was known by post Scotia. I did not mean to imply that these were at the same time. Mick |
04 Oct 99 - 02:48 AM (#120403) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MudGuard Bonzo, Click here to see that Amerika is south-east of Oldenburg in Niedersachsen (Lower Saxonia) in the North of Germany. So Amerika is not near Sturminster Newton. There is another Amerika in Sachsen (Saxonia) southeast of Zwickau, but that one is too small to get into the Online-Maps. I did not know that you have to hunt Haggis. I thought it was just sold by these Fast-Food vans all over Scotland. And I did not know there is hound in it. And that it is sold only during a season... |
04 Oct 99 - 11:45 AM (#120497) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Ewan McVicar No, wait a minute, I got it wrong. Some people say that Americans do have a sense of humour. Well, some of them. |
04 Oct 99 - 02:58 PM (#120590) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: wildlone Thanks kat I am finding it hard to type using one hand but i try. yours wildlone nursing his broken arm and bruises IFOMC. |
04 Oct 99 - 04:24 PM (#120637) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo Does this mean i have to put up with his behaviour until after the new year? I don't think my sanity (or furniture!) will take much more of this. can anyone recommend any medication that may help? is there a Haggis substitute or do they need "the thrill of the hunt". I have also heard stories of left handed and right handed Haggis (depending on side of short legs) and the perils of cross breeding? is this true? and how would this effect my much tormented hound! Bonzo |
04 Oct 99 - 04:27 PM (#120640) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario there are fossil records of "fore-handed" and "back-handed" haggi as well, but both those sub-species died rapidly, as fore-handed haggi were only able to climb UP-hill and the back-handed haggis was only able to climb DOWN-hill. |
04 Oct 99 - 04:31 PM (#120644) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: sophocleese You could use a bagpiper as a haggis substitute if you think he needs the thrill of the hunt. If he does manage to catch the bagpipes let him eat them and we'll all feel better. |
04 Oct 99 - 04:49 PM (#120655) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bert Of course, once you've caught your haggis, you have the problem of dressing it. Seeing as they are made up of all guts in the first place, by the time you've cleaned him out, there's bugger all left. Hmmm, to us Sassenachs that may NOT BE a problem. |
04 Oct 99 - 06:22 PM (#120695) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: lamarca As a researcher at the National Institutes of Health, I am please to report that actual medical research on the consumption of haggis has been published in the legitimate medical research. Check here for a Medline reference to this interesting study, which includes a histopathology of Haggis scotiensis tissues... |
04 Oct 99 - 06:22 PM (#120696) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: lamarca As a researcher at the National Institutes of Health, I am please to report that actual medical research on the consumption of haggis has been published in the legitimate medical research. Check here for a Medline reference to this interesting study, which includes a histopathology of Haggis scotiensis tissues... |
04 Oct 99 - 06:26 PM (#120698) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: lamarca Oops, you need to select the article by Fraser, et al, in The British Medical Journal, not he many published by Dr. Haggis himself... |
04 Oct 99 - 08:47 PM (#120745) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas Don What on earth is a "Whistle-Pig"? I like the sound of the recipe, by the way, but the Woolly Dock and Old Stump Blower might be a trifle hard to get in Yorkshire. Fortunately I do at least know a good haggis dealer, and we have plenty of nettles. Malcolm |
04 Oct 99 - 09:09 PM (#120751) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: DonMeixner Malcolm, The wiley whistle pig is a local name for the Woodchuck. They are called whistle pigs because when frightened they whistle. A large rodent that resembles a cavy (Guinea Pig) only universally brown in color. They are harmless in the extreme and while slow of wit they make up for it by being very dumb. Some of the old timers in the area say they taste alot like goat. I've never eaten whistle pig my self so I can't say. Wooly Dock grows here in the states and a variety is found in your neck of the woods. Interestingly it can be a cure for stings from nettles. I've never eaten it either, it may well be very poisonous so don't try it with the nettles. Try BurrDock instead. Old Stumpblower can be a problem too, Try Kohler beer The pale dry stale ale with the head on the bottom. Failing that, Guinesses will have todo. Don
|
04 Oct 99 - 10:08 PM (#120766) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas Don Ah, I see, the Woodchuck. "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?" I have occasionally wondered. We call Woolly Docks "Dock Leaves". I should think they're edible if steamed or boiled, but nettles (with plenty of butter, and picked young) would be a lot nicer. Like blackberries, they have to be picked before that time in the early autumn when the Devil goes round and pisses on them. Malcolm |
04 Oct 99 - 10:17 PM (#120770) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: DonMeixner Malcolm A woodchuck would if a woodchuck could, chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could if a woodchuck would chuck wood. Pretty simple really. Don |
04 Oct 99 - 10:41 PM (#120780) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas Don Er...right. Malcolm |
04 Oct 99 - 10:44 PM (#120783) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Susan A-R i had always thought that Haggis mated with good whiskey, and suspected that the hunting season was at some point after this mating, but then I'm ont much in touch with my Scots heritage. Now mealy pudding is another matter. . . |
04 Oct 99 - 11:01 PM (#120794) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas I think that the role of whisky (no "e" in Haggis territory!) is more of a catalytic nature than anything else. Laphroaig for preference. Malolm, |
04 Oct 99 - 11:22 PM (#120809) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: WyoWoman How would one pronounce Laphroaig, and what precisely is it? I see it being ordered over there at the tavern a good deal, but it alway sounds sort of froggy and unattractive to me. But then, as an accompaniment to haggis, that might actually recommend it... WW |
05 Oct 99 - 03:42 PM (#120996) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas "La-froyg", more or less. It's a very peaty Islay malt. Not in the least froggy, but you need to enjoy strong flavours. Yum! Malcolm |
05 Oct 99 - 04:58 PM (#121024) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo I don't know what my Haggis hound would do if he found a frog? come to think of it i don't know what he would do if he found a Haggis? Any ideas (or even just gut reactions!) Bonzo |
05 Oct 99 - 08:14 PM (#121078) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Malcolm Douglas A Haggis hound will ignore a frog if properly trained. Malcolm |
06 Oct 99 - 07:49 AM (#121256) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Graham Pirt What a fascinating thread. Here I was thinking that a haggis was something made out of bits of beast and oats and all the time you hunt them! What have I missed all these years. If I'd remembered clearly I would have known better because up in Irvine in Scotland there is a hotel that displays varieties of haggis that have been caught in the area! |
06 Oct 99 - 09:12 AM (#121270) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: WyoWoman They have often been known to cavort with jackalope in these parts, but I understand from this thread that they couldn't possibly be native haggis. Yes, Malcolm, I do indeed love strong flavors. I wonder if Lafroig (sp?) is available here in the U.S. Anyone? Anyone? (Of course, here in Wyoming, Jameson's has been an exotic drink until just recently, so the odds may be against me....) WW |
06 Oct 99 - 01:44 PM (#121353) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: bobby's girl Unfortunately Malcolm, I know from bitter experience that Bonzo's haggis hound is anything but well trained! The only way he could do any serious damage to a haggis is possibly drown it as he tries to lick it to death! |
06 Oct 99 - 01:49 PM (#121359) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario But weren't Haggis Hounds specifically bred to drool their prey to death? thus simulating the natural drowning of the Haggi as they tunble down the mountainsides into the streams below? |
06 Oct 99 - 01:55 PM (#121363) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo booby's girl, I dont know what you mean, he's only ever been pleased to see you! but if MMario is right i think watson may need some optical correction! Bonzo |
06 Oct 99 - 02:01 PM (#121366) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bonzo Sorry bobby's girl - dyslexia lures ko! must try to improve my tryping kills Bonzo |
06 Oct 99 - 02:19 PM (#121370) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario I think Frued is in here posting under other names again. |
21 Dec 01 - 08:55 PM (#614490) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: DonMeixner With the lateness of the first frosts and no warm rains this season the Haggis migration has been sporatic and largely undependable. There is great concern among the kilted few in the area of finding a suitable Haggis for the Robert Burns birthday dinner. The St. Andrews Society, at best a schizophrenic lot, is of two minds about it. Some say to get a locally raised freerange haggis while the other lot will have none of it. Mr. Campbell Mac Donald was heard to say, "If we ca' noo get a' wild one, Burn a ' Brattwurst, cover it w' Ketchup an' feed it tae the tooorists! They'll nae tell tha' difference and we can sssspend the savings on single malt!" When put to the vote it came up as tie with three obstaining while they wait word from Haggis Unlimited about some farm raised and released in the wild Haggi from a Haggis Forever program run by a local 4-H. Don |
21 Dec 01 - 09:36 PM (#614516) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull The last time I went to Scotland I bought a haggis sandwich, it was horrible, it was just like straw and i wont buy one again. |
21 Dec 01 - 11:00 PM (#614553) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,.gargoyle Not much more than a jacking haggis have ever been known to cavort with a Wyoming Women.
|
21 Dec 01 - 11:10 PM (#614560) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,.gargoyle From the first R.W. Service book I ever bought. Rhymes of a Red Cross Man and next to the "Cow Juice Cure" my favorite poem.
The Haggis of Private McPhee "Hae ye heard whit ma auld mither's postit tae me?
|
22 Dec 01 - 02:12 AM (#614624) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Chip2447 YOU BARBARIC ANIMALS!!! How on earth can you justify killing such beautiful creatures. The S.P.C.H and haggises rights foundation of Liberal, California are going to hear about all of you. I hope they punish you by making you eat sheep's organs that have been boiled in the sheep's stomach. YOU COLD HEARTED BASTARDS. Chip2447 |
22 Dec 01 - 03:09 AM (#614634) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Tone d' F As long as you leave Cornish Pastie hunting alone, fine by me |
22 Dec 01 - 09:29 AM (#614717) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Clinton Hammond Regarding the hunting of bagpipers... While studying medieval history in York, chummer of mine was tickled to discover that there is still an old law on the books, that makes it legal to shoot Scots with arrows from the walls of the city... What do you call a thousand pipers under 6 feet of peat? A damn good start!! Regarding "Laphroaig"... Yummie!!!! I describe it as kinda a nice black rubber taste the uninitiated... I also compare it to the pleasant smell of gasoline! When I do have scotch, I go for the peaty stuff! And I dream of all the bagpipers under it! LOL!!! |
22 Dec 01 - 09:48 AM (#614730) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,Desdemona Haggis season? Och, laddie---does it ivver ind?! All those yummy, peaty single malts are a few of my favourite things; Laphroaig being way up at the top of the list--and highly medicinal it is, too! |
22 Dec 01 - 11:03 AM (#614760) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bat Goddess The best Cornish pasties are from the Upper Peninsula of Michigan -- and I originate from there, too. (But I was born when I was very young and I'm 52 years away from there now.) Well, so I haven't sampled any Youper pasties for awhile, but I have exported the recipe and kept it safe (and used!). Goes best with Laphroaig, too. (As does that Scots meatloaf everyone's talking about above.) Linn |
22 Dec 01 - 12:07 PM (#614795) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Liz the Squeak Price of sporrans will be going up then.... LTS |
22 Dec 01 - 12:36 PM (#614812) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Up here in the highlands, the haggis season starts just after the arrival of the first American tourist of the year. Failte.....Jock |
22 Dec 01 - 07:35 PM (#615023) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D seems to me that haggis are much too cute too hunt!...People should just let them run free! or...hmmm...this little critter is also identifed as Haggis ...now I'm confused. ...but not about the best whiskey!...Laphroiag is WAY too peaty!...but I wouldn't mind a wee dram o' Talisker...now there's a flavor to knock your socks off that tastes like something more than smoked vegetation! (for everyday I prefer Highland Park or what I am having as I type..Glenmorangie from Madeira casks) |
22 Dec 01 - 07:45 PM (#615028) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D tsk...I put that 'e' in whisky! *running quickly behind myself and kicking me in the butt* but now I am even MORE confused, for this picture of the wild haggis has little resemblance to the others! Perhaps an inbred line? |
22 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM (#615030) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Cobble Bill D.. will join you, if I may, with the Talisker... then we can watch the wee haggis dancing in the heather.. thats if my Skye Terriers don't get wind of 'em. *BG* Mrs C |
22 Dec 01 - 07:55 PM (#615040) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D indeed you may, Mrs. C!....but some of them are pretty fierce , so Skye Terriers may be our best line of defense!...(well, except for Talisker breath, which will ward off the meanest haggis!) |
22 Dec 01 - 07:58 PM (#615044) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D you DO need to scroll to the bottom to read about the capture of the young male haggis and find the link to his picture... |
22 Dec 01 - 08:12 PM (#615052) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D is there no shame? Travesties!!! enough! |
22 Dec 01 - 08:26 PM (#615059) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Bill D but NO!... here the history and details of the haggis hunt are detailed! With old engraving of the Haggis hunt! ah, scholarship in the digital age is SO rewarding! now...my wife demands the computer for mundane purposes...*sigh* |
23 Dec 01 - 05:11 AM (#615229) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Hillheader The haggis is an ugly bird And hunting it is quite absurd Two long legs and one more short So on the hills it can cavort. You shoot its short front leg away Then watch it try to upright stay Until it falls and bangs its snout Upon a rock its then knocked out But now your troubles just begin How do you kill the ruddy thing? It looks at you with big sad eyes You feel like Satan in disguise So you decide to let it go You lift it softly from the snow And gently throw it in the air But the bastard craps right in your hair. Because you see you sorry lot The haggis is a bloody Scot And if you hurt us in any way We'll get you back the self same day Big Mick, death threats are not our style But I would not close my eyes a-while Or you'll hear as you nod your head Ten thousand pipers by your bed. So let the poor wee haggis be And if you catch one, set it free But if you catch a Scot I think It's better just to buy him drink!!!
|
23 Dec 01 - 05:38 AM (#615230) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Aye Bill D, I find the Laphroig much too much like lysol for my taste buds. Glenmorangie is distilled about 20 miles from where I live, but do your self a flavour and go about 15 miles north to Brora, and try my favourite Clynelish. Pronounced cline-leash. There are too many lovely malts to name, but I'm not a fan of Glenmorangie original, and haven't tried the various different cask flavourings that they are doing now, I suspect that they may be just a clever marketing ploy. Slainte....Jock |
26 Dec 07 - 08:58 PM (#2222970) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Joe Offer There are certain important threads that need refreshing from time to time. This thread is certainly one of those. Oh, I came across an interesting Website: The Scottish Haggis Website - for those unwilling to make their own. If I read the description correctly, this haggis is "140 years in the making." Yum. Good stuff. What prompted me to refresh this thread is one of today's quotes from igoogle.com:
- Mike Myers 'nuff said. -Joe Offer- |
27 Dec 07 - 12:16 AM (#2223036) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,DonMeixner The debate over the effects of global warming on the Haggis Spawn is just starting to heat up. Haggis Unlimited has started a study but as they are a large committee nothing is expected to come of the effort. The Haggis of central New York are found mainly in the finger lakes region and as such are forced to migrate in a Northern direction. Had they been found anywhere else they would be Westerly migratory as they are found that way through out the civilized world. But the north south lay of the Lakes makes westerly migration almost impossible. I was sick with pneumonia so I missed the round up this year. A bill was passed in the Legislature to use a colored dye to mark the Haggis and the ranches they came from. The traditional branding of the Haggis has proven to be fatal to about fifty percent of the Haggis. There is a move by the traditionalists to go back to branding with the promise to use irons with shorter names. Don |
27 Dec 07 - 05:45 AM (#2223088) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Doesn't MMario live around the Finger Lakes? G |
27 Dec 07 - 05:50 AM (#2223092) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,Mad Jock No one has mentioned that it is unwise to hunt haggis until after the young have fledged the nest and that only mature beasts may be taken. Thats those over 5 years old who have lost their wings and can no longer fly and thats why they are easy to catch. |
27 Dec 07 - 09:57 AM (#2223175) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,Don Meixner Hi Giok, Yes he does. MMario and I are nearly neighbors. He lives about 45 miles west of me. Google up a New York state map and search out Jordan(Me) and Penn Yann(MMario). Pamela from Ithaca is also a Finger Lakes area resident. Don |
27 Dec 07 - 11:18 AM (#2223226) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,old git I was always taught as a lad that the Haggis hunting season lasted just 2 days...30 and 31 February. |
28 Dec 07 - 09:04 AM (#2223647) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve 2007-2008 Haggis Hunt, with prizes! Fire away, O Noble Hunters of the Haggis! maeve |
28 Dec 07 - 09:12 AM (#2223653) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario I prefer my haggis live trapped and fed for a week on whisky and oatcakes. |
28 Dec 07 - 09:23 AM (#2223657) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Rapparee Saw a herd of them on the way back home from Salt Lake City yesterday. They looked to be pretty scrawny this year, and the paper this morning said that the Dept of Fish, Game and Haggises had closed the season due to "incipient scrawn." |
28 Dec 07 - 09:49 AM (#2223672) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Nah that wasn't Haggi, they flock. G |
28 Dec 07 - 10:43 AM (#2223693) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MartinRyan Here h'Oireland, haggis are (happily) h'extinct. We are now reduced to even more surreal forms of 'unting. Having acquired a Green Party Minister for the Environment, our last remaining deer hunt was only granted a license for its annual foray, on condition that the deer used to set a trail was safely retrapped before the hounds were released.... Regards |
28 Dec 07 - 10:44 AM (#2223694) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MartinRyan That should, of course, have been: Here in hOireland..." Regards |
28 Dec 07 - 10:57 AM (#2223701) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Did they leave with the snakes, by order of St Pat? G |
28 Dec 07 - 11:05 AM (#2223705) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Goose Gander A 'Whistle-Pig' is, I believe, a groundhog rather than a woodchuck: From the singing of Doc Watson . . . "I dug down but I didn't dig deep I dug down but I didn't dig deep There lay a whistle-pig fast asleep O! Groundhog." |
28 Dec 07 - 11:10 AM (#2223706) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario but groundhogs *are* woodchucks. The American woodchuck is the largest member of the marmot family - did you know that? |
28 Dec 07 - 11:26 AM (#2223712) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Woodpussy and Whistlepig G |
28 Dec 07 - 11:26 AM (#2223713) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Goose Gander So, then, how much ground could a groundhog hog, if a groundhog could hog ground? |
28 Dec 07 - 11:32 AM (#2223715) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario A ground hog would hog as much ground as a ground hog CAN hog if a ground hog could hog ground...and actually - they can, and do. Amazing how widespread they can make a burrow system. |
28 Dec 07 - 11:33 AM (#2223716) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve "Groundhogs keep creeping in the thread..." Gentlemen: Kindly make your own groundhog thread, eh? Back to our regularly scheduled haggis... |
28 Dec 07 - 11:35 AM (#2223717) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario I'll have you know that cross-comparision of mitochondrial DNA between the Haggis (Nova Scotia variety) and the American Woodchuck show that there may well be some interbreeding occuring between the two populations. |
28 Dec 07 - 11:41 AM (#2223718) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve Nonsense, Sirrah! Click the link provided upthread to learn of the Golden Haggis, whose genetic code lingers throughout all known haggis populations and effectively precludes any such interbreeding with the otherwise prolific woodchuck clan. With all due respect, maeve, gonehuntinghaggistowinaPrize |
28 Dec 07 - 11:51 AM (#2223726) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario oh, yeah? well they said that mathematically a bee cannot fly! Reality often precludes theory. |
28 Dec 07 - 12:00 PM (#2223734) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve LOL, MMario. "They" said lots of things. Come hunt the haggis with me and we can further discuss the transcontinental haggis possibilities. I just sighted a golden haggis in Edinburgh! Pax, maeve |
28 Dec 07 - 12:00 PM (#2223735) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Butterflies cause chaos. G Sorry Ilex |
28 Dec 07 - 12:34 PM (#2223753) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Schantieman It's only bumble bees (Bombyx spp) that can't fly. Honeybees (Apis mellifera) can - otherwise how would they collect nectar and stuff? Steve |
28 Dec 07 - 12:43 PM (#2223761) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve It was indeed the bumblebee that confusticated theorists, but a bumble can fly and is not a haggis therefore I conclude 'tis indeed time to hunt the haggis. Will anyone join me in that worthy endeavor? maeve |
28 Dec 07 - 12:54 PM (#2223771) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario Huh? Bombyx is silkworms! Do you mean Bombus? |
28 Dec 07 - 12:56 PM (#2223772) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie Gee, a brainy haggis from the Finger lakes :) |
28 Dec 07 - 12:57 PM (#2223773) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MMario Blame it on Cornell - I do. |
28 Dec 07 - 03:31 PM (#2223876) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve The Haggis' Zoology for your edification and amusement. maeve |
28 Dec 07 - 03:34 PM (#2223878) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: John MacKenzie A Haggiography indeed. G |
28 Dec 07 - 06:27 PM (#2223992) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego I once knew a chap in Fresno, CA, whose father had emigrated from Scotland around 1904 or so. Seeking to keep faith with his forebears, the son, a newly minted architect, attended a St. Andrew's Day festival and Highland Games with his new bride (circa 1940). She told the story on him in the 1960's. As the haggis was being piped in, my acquaintance looked at his bride and whispered, "I'm havin' none of that - I know what's in it and it stinks!" A very large lady with long henna-red hair leaned across and slapped him on the back, saying, "Ah, c'mon Alistair; it'll put some lead in yer pencil!" |
28 Dec 07 - 06:34 PM (#2224000) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Rapparee Actually, the correct term for a group of Idaho Haggii is "bunch" as in, "Look at that bunch of sorry-lookin' haggii over there!" I used the term I did earlier because I was afraid that the more technical term wouldn't be understood. |
30 Dec 07 - 05:50 PM (#2225123) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: maeve Haggis ahead... |
27 Mar 24 - 11:19 AM (#4199863) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST That’s quite a humorous and vivid anecdote! It captures the essence of cultural traditions and the sometimes humorous reluctance to embrace them fully. Haggis, being such a traditional Scottish dish, often evokes strong reactions, especially from those who are not accustomed to it. Discover special offers for GraphiSoft ArchiCAD 25 at ProCADIS.com. The St. Andrew’s Day festival and Highland Games are wonderful occasions that celebrate Scottish heritage, and it’s amusing to hear how they can create lasting memories, even through the simple act of serving a dish like haggis. Thank you for sharing this story! |
27 Mar 24 - 09:31 PM (#4199898) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,Steve Shaw I have a haggis in the freezer which I shall consume, alone, on the first weekend in May when Mrs Steve will be away for a couple of nights. I love haggis but she can't stand it. I shall have it with tatties and neeps and there will be single malt... The only condition apropos of haggis is that it must be made by Macsween. Their black pudding is bloody good too (see what I did there?) |
28 Mar 24 - 09:00 AM (#4199913) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Richard Mellish Most if not all of the linkss above are defunct, so here are two that do work at present |
28 Mar 24 - 04:06 PM (#4199944) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Joe Offer Haggis season is barbarously cruel and inhumane. It should be outlawed. |
28 Mar 24 - 04:27 PM (#4199945) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: MudGuard as far as I know biological and chemical weapons are outlawed. Thus haggis is outlawed. Btw, I have eaten haggis twice: 1. once, 2. never again! And I still don't know how I survived the first time ... |
29 Mar 24 - 05:30 AM (#4199976) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST,Rossey This novelty was perpetrated on the public during the heights of the Scottish tartan 'heather and hills and haggis', music season, which ran for many decades. You will want to shoot a haggis after, or an accordion player. You will though, be whistling the refrain. Personally, as a Scottish Highlander - I never go near haggis, it is the devil's food. The Happy Haggis - written by Bert Shorthouse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEUMEnMp690 |
29 Mar 24 - 11:54 AM (#4200002) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: GUEST "Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Clinton Hammond Date: 22 Dec 01 - 09:29 AM Regarding the hunting of bagpipers... While studying medieval history in York, chummer of mine was tickled to discover that there is still an old law on the books, that makes it legal to shoot Scots with arrows from the walls of the city..." Not sure if the law that makes it legal to kill any Welshman in the city of Chester at night has ever been repealed either. |
02 Apr 24 - 05:27 PM (#4200317) Subject: RE: The Haggis season - when does it start? From: Richard Mellish Many years ago one of my fellow post-grads, who was a Kurd, declared that they have a similar dish in Kurdistan, but I think he said they use more salt. |