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Mudcat Slow!!

23 Jan 12 - 05:36 PM (#3295150)
Subject: Mudcat Slow!!
From: RTim

So why is Mudcat currently (Jan 2012) so so slow!!
It is taking ages just to look at threads.....
It is not taking so long to get responses on other sites I use?


Tim Radford


23 Jan 12 - 05:40 PM (#3295152)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: frogprince

I

noticed



that.



I


wondered,



too.


23 Jan 12 - 05:44 PM (#3295156)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Gypsy

Unless things have changed since my back was turned, it is just Max, and 3 'puters.........might be that he is busy, or working on one of them. Try one of the other servers.......sometimes you can switch around, and it will speed things up. I think i used to switch to Loki.


23 Jan 12 - 06:27 PM (#3295182)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

Don't forget that Max survived a massive computer failure not so long ago. I'm sure donations are welcome to help him recover from that damage and to support this wonderful, free, Mudcat.

Donate here: http://www.mudcat.org/support.cfm

You can also buy the newest Mudcat cds, The price is $60 for 6 CDs (5 x This Is Us, + Until The Dark Time Ends--seasonal CD). They can be ordered invidually. Either way, send a PM to Dick Greenhaus (also at previous link).

Thanks, Max & company


23 Jan 12 - 06:28 PM (#3295186)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: michaelr

"Try one of the other servers"

How would one do that?


23 Jan 12 - 07:04 PM (#3295195)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST

Dump you cache
Ping your traceroute
Scan for virus
Turn off, Drop out, Turn on, Tune in again.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Screaming fast for me ... maybe the solar storm knocked out your local infrastructure.


23 Jan 12 - 07:54 PM (#3295210)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: michaelr

Cryptic as ever, gargoyle. Do you get a kick out of being incomprehensible?


23 Jan 12 - 08:26 PM (#3295217)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

About a week ago it was a level above Mudcat...some key DNS server and router was out in central PA. Don't know if that's the case today.

kat


23 Jan 12 - 09:57 PM (#3295235)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle

OK, it's not my system,sorta like the old joke:
Are you sure that the boots ain't rolled down?
Oh, it might not be.
Thank Gawd, It ain't me!


23 Jan 12 - 11:21 PM (#3295257)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Andrez

So is there an answer to "try one of the other servers"? I would if I had an address to plugin.

Cheers,

Andrez


24 Jan 12 - 11:04 AM (#3295457)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

Well this morning (UK time) it was slo o o o o o o o o wwwwwww. This afternoon, it's zipping along great.


25 Jan 12 - 03:09 AM (#3295875)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Sandra in Sydney

do the other servers still operate, I remember them mentioned as backdoors many years ago (loki?? snuffy???

sandra (doing her best to get the little grey cells moving)


25 Jan 12 - 04:33 AM (#3295894)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Tootler

OK this morning in UK


25 Jan 12 - 07:38 AM (#3295937)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas

I've noticed lots of "waiting for response from mudcat.org" and some of them have been rather long waits, intermittently over a few weeks.

Once the 'cat answers the phone it zips right up.

That might indicate some deterioration in a feeder/relay that's hanging up, something about the mudcat's service connection, or a choked up queue at the mudcat server I would think.

We might be able to test the last possibility if all the rest of you would go home ... but then I wouldn't have anybody to talk to.

It does seem to be about normal this morning, although I've only opened a couple of threads and this is my first post for a few hours.

John


25 Jan 12 - 09:33 PM (#3296357)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

John - please show the newbies:
Ping Trace Route
Selecting a new origin.

Sincerely,

Gargoyle

I agree it is time for a new donation...in any currency, from any country.


19 Feb 12 - 10:35 PM (#3311096)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe Offer

Mudcat has been slow most of the day. Max is aware of the problem and he's working on it.

-Joe-


19 Feb 12 - 10:55 PM (#3311098)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle

That's a heckuva lot better than our friends across the pond are getting from BT.


19 Feb 12 - 11:04 PM (#3311102)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Beer

You can go for a pee a crap and come back and still it is no where to be found.
ad.


19 Feb 12 - 11:11 PM (#3311106)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

Seems much better here now than it was earlier in the evening.


20 Feb 12 - 12:53 AM (#3311123)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Sandra in Sydney

always happy to know I'm not lone with slooooow computer or connection

as always, thanks to Max


20 Feb 12 - 03:45 AM (#3311142)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe Offer

Seems to have improved. I think it's about normal now.
-Joe-


20 Feb 12 - 03:47 AM (#3311144)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,I Don't Know

Took forever to load just now.


20 Feb 12 - 03:50 AM (#3311146)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

I made a cup of coffee, a bacon sandwich, and played two rounds of golf. Before it loaded a thread ;-)


20 Feb 12 - 04:01 AM (#3311152)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

Seems brighter now


20 Feb 12 - 04:31 AM (#3311160)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray

It is rumoured that the recent slowness is to get back to the simpler, more human, liesurely, pastoral, horse-drawn pre-broadband dial-up pace of days gone by when 'Catters were younger, fitter, slimmer and knew their place in the fuedal order as a truly authentic community of traditional folk enthusiasts.


20 Feb 12 - 07:48 AM (#3311208)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

There's still a lot of forelock tugging goes on around here.


20 Feb 12 - 08:42 AM (#3311225)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: RTim

Still EXTREMELY slow here on Cape Cod!!

Tim Radford


20 Feb 12 - 09:39 AM (#3311238)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Snuffy

Still slow here, but I get round it by having two tabs open with Mudcat and read one while the other is loading. Seems to work OK.


20 Feb 12 - 10:42 AM (#3311252)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

Taking a good 40 seconds to load here in Canada.


20 Feb 12 - 10:53 AM (#3311255)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

I have plants that move faster...


20 Feb 12 - 11:27 AM (#3311266)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Its the ads ... the animated gif files are time killers. I noticed the amazon one in particular with heavy animation


20 Feb 12 - 11:35 AM (#3311270)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

No, it's not the ads. I have (as of this morning) every one of them blocked and it's just as slow for me as it is for you.


20 Feb 12 - 11:37 AM (#3311272)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: terrier

Open Mudcat.. open new tab.. play around with another website whilst Mudcat is loading.. then go back to Mudcat which is now working. Everyone can be happy. Slow is good :)


20 Feb 12 - 11:42 AM (#3311273)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe Offer

Yeah, it was almost normal for a while there last night, and now it's slow again.
Time for a nap...


20 Feb 12 - 11:49 AM (#3311276)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Jeri
it doesn't matter if you block them, the server still has to load the things. Take the load time for an animated gif and multiply it by 1000 concurrent users requesting resources and see the performance stats.


20 Feb 12 - 11:54 AM (#3311277)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

With adsense the ads change, when they are not animated you will run fine, when they switch to animated you will run crappy. I been there. You can block all you want but the server still has to honor the ads and will consume resources


20 Feb 12 - 12:31 PM (#3311284)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Rog Peek

17.30 GMT, very, very, slooooooowwwwwww.

Rog


20 Feb 12 - 01:09 PM (#3311293)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

45 secs to refresh and/or open a thread.


20 Feb 12 - 02:16 PM (#3311311)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

I agree with olddude.... I see the little window at the bottom saying "sending request to googlesyndication.com"

I think that even when an ad is blocked, it takes a certain amount of time before it surrenders and allows the page to load...and as I mentioned in my thread on google & javascript, some as are getting thru anyway.

Of course, Max may have other problems locally, but I'm guessing that the Amazon/Google bit is involved.


20 Feb 12 - 03:11 PM (#3311324)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

I get a lot of "taken offline by Max" and click again and it opens. Could it be that some troll is slowing the site down? by clicking threads like the MOAB in full or whatever? In any case, I am sure Max is on top of it.


20 Feb 12 - 03:14 PM (#3311326)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Check your memory utilization on the Ads ... increase the amount of memory resources to the server and increase the swap file for paging. I bet both are too small to handle the gifs


20 Feb 12 - 04:11 PM (#3311345)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Manuel

Slow as a snail here on the western shores of the Caribbean as well!


20 Feb 12 - 06:53 PM (#3311391)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Dan... easy for you to say. At least, I think it would be if I had a clue what you were talking about.


20 Feb 12 - 06:55 PM (#3311392)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

Trying everything. We've just reached the limits of what the servers can do, I think.


20 Feb 12 - 07:50 PM (#3311393)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Was offline and has just come back at normal speed for me in UK.

Mick


20 Feb 12 - 07:55 PM (#3311394)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Max
my client just retired another big ass Dell server with raid system. I will get you the specs and email you tomorrow. They said I can have it. I suspect it will have enough horsepower to run mudcat and then some

let you know in the AM
Dan


20 Feb 12 - 08:14 PM (#3311400)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Time to wipe out the stuff below the line.


20 Feb 12 - 08:15 PM (#3311401)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

that do it?


20 Feb 12 - 08:17 PM (#3311402)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

"Time to wipe out the stuff below the line."

naawww... it would just be posted above the line and be harder to avoid.


20 Feb 12 - 08:17 PM (#3311403)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

well, made some progress at least. enjoy.

Lemme know Dan, we're hanging by a thread. Ha... thread.


20 Feb 12 - 08:40 PM (#3311407)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

I will scarf it up for ya Max, I promise. They used it to backup all the PC's in the office so I suspect it has a lot of horses under the hood.


20 Feb 12 - 08:52 PM (#3311409)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: YorkshireYankee

Fingers crossed, olddude (maybe that'll help ease your boredom problem?) Max, thanks for all your efforts.


20 Feb 12 - 09:22 PM (#3311418)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe Offer

Oh, gee, we're in trouble....Max has resorted to puns.


20 Feb 12 - 09:45 PM (#3311426)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle

so, why is it OK going back to the menu and slow going to the threads?


20 Feb 12 - 09:57 PM (#3311433)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Janie

the font and page (and no cookie) have the appearance of the test site or whatever it is called where Max tries out new tricks, etc.

Thanks for doing what you can, Max. And thanks,Dan, if you have access to equipment that may help the problem.


20 Feb 12 - 10:02 PM (#3311434)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas

EBarnacle

When you go back to the menu the menu has already been loaded once, and is in your browser's temp file. If the menu page doesn't load immediately, your browser will show the version that's in memory.

Depending on your settings, your browser may try to refresh and reload the page everytime you call for the page again, but usually will flip to the stored page fairly quickly if the site reponse is slow.

When you open a page, it's not in memory, so the browser has to wait until the site responds - so it's often slower, although when things are working right you might not notice the difference.

John


21 Feb 12 - 01:02 AM (#3311470)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle

OK, that works for me. Thanks, John.


21 Feb 12 - 03:25 AM (#3311493)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Dennis the Elder

Seems a bit better this morning, lets hope it continues to improve.


21 Feb 12 - 06:26 AM (#3311546)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Mike Mandaville

I was unable to post a couple of times, but now things are back to normal. This site is unique, and I appreciate the work that goes into keeping it functioning.


21 Feb 12 - 09:05 AM (#3311604)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Paul Slade

Still very slow for me here in London - and refusing to let me post links.

Thanks to everyone who's trying to sort this out.


21 Feb 12 - 09:32 AM (#3311612)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

Ditto in Canada. Over a minute to get onto Mudcat, over forty seconds to get this thread to open.


21 Feb 12 - 09:37 AM (#3311615)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

And over 1 1/2 minutes to get that last post to take. Good luck sorting it out.


21 Feb 12 - 09:49 AM (#3311617)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

About 2 seconds to open and 3/4 to completely load. I don't know if you just did something, but thanks.


21 Feb 12 - 09:51 AM (#3311619)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

Slick as corn thru a goose just now. Whatever ya did, it worked.


21 Feb 12 - 09:58 AM (#3311621)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

Well, it was nice while it lasted. Back to crawling.


21 Feb 12 - 11:39 AM (#3311637)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Max
It is a Dell Poweredge 6600. Has 12 hot swap raid drives. I think they are 800's ... haven't fired it up but I will to make sure it is all good. Big bugger lots of power. Its yours if you want it. I don't know the memory yet but knowing my client they only go first class on everything so I suspect lots of horsepower under the hood. They used it to daily backup over 100 pc's so its a big filing cabinet

Dan


21 Feb 12 - 11:56 AM (#3311640)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Max here is the specs I think this will do it myself

http://www.dell.com/downloads/emea/products/pedge/66XS.pdf


21 Feb 12 - 12:13 PM (#3311645)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Quad processors


21 Feb 12 - 01:08 PM (#3311655)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Dan is the MAN!


21 Feb 12 - 01:25 PM (#3311659)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

older technology GNU but maybe better than what we have now, see if Max wants it .. maybe it won't work for the cat but its the best I can do right now. They are retiring two more servers in a month that are a little more newer


21 Feb 12 - 08:25 PM (#3311703)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Lighter

Real, real slow in Dixie. Sometimes won't connect at all.

And now this message keeps bouncing back. (8:25 EST)


21 Feb 12 - 09:12 PM (#3311708)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe_F

Took 45 s for the site to come up. Took another 40 s for this page to come up. Verizon & Conkeror.


21 Feb 12 - 10:11 PM (#3311713)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

So the Mudcat is well and truly *swamped* and here I thought they were fresh water fish.:-)

Max, hang in there. Dan, you are wonderful. I hope the server works!

Do we all need to chip in for shipping costs?

luvya'llkat


21 Feb 12 - 10:24 PM (#3311716)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Rapparee

A ping from out here in Idaho shows an average out-and-back of about 190 ms.


21 Feb 12 - 10:38 PM (#3311719)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

still fiddling. we aren't giving up.


22 Feb 12 - 05:37 AM (#3311756)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Slow at 06:00 AST... if that info helps in diagnostics.


22 Feb 12 - 06:02 AM (#3311762)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChillToad

Intermittently slow here in the West Country as at 10:55 GMT.

One thing though - everyone on this thread is very patient and understanding. I've been on sites where people are screaming at the mods within minutes if the slightest thing goes wrong.

Big shout out to Max, Dan and to the rest of us nice folk folk!


22 Feb 12 - 06:59 AM (#3311770)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Monique

It's been low for more than 3 days here (Southern France)


22 Feb 12 - 09:38 AM (#3311797)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jon Corelis

Here in the great American midwest for the past several days the site has been slower than a herd of turtles stampeding through a peanut butter swamp.

Jon Corelis
Eldorado by Edgar Alllan Poe: a musical setting


22 Feb 12 - 11:21 AM (#3311814)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

Just got faster, lots.


22 Feb 12 - 11:22 AM (#3311815)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

Agreed.


22 Feb 12 - 11:44 AM (#3311827)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

SCREAMING - Fast connections.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

The move to GoDaddy was an interesting necessity


22 Feb 12 - 12:00 PM (#3311830)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

It takes up to ten seconds to get a response to a page load request. It's never been worse.


22 Feb 12 - 12:05 PM (#3311833)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

And at least twice that time to get that last post through.


22 Feb 12 - 12:13 PM (#3311837)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Larry Saidman

Really slow in British Columbia.


22 Feb 12 - 12:40 PM (#3311842)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Max let me know if you want that thing ... Dan


22 Feb 12 - 12:52 PM (#3311845)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: pdq

Dan is offering to upgrade the Mudcat server to a Radio Shack TRS 80.


22 Feb 12 - 01:14 PM (#3311854)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Avg of 90 seconds up and download today until a few minutes ago. Now back to normal. Shhhhhhh.


22 Feb 12 - 01:38 PM (#3311859)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Shoulda said shhhh FIRST. Shhhhit!


22 Feb 12 - 01:54 PM (#3311862)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

Dah PDQ, it is an Apple II LOL, although the TRS80 would probably perform better right now


22 Feb 12 - 02:01 PM (#3311866)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Looks like better servers are needed.

Elimination of all messages below the line might help.

Impossible to tell if posts will be recognized without waits, no point in posting anything other than brief comments.


22 Feb 12 - 04:45 PM (#3311894)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

Q... the messages 'below the line' have almost NO effect on the total. They used to be mixed with all the others...and still can be if you choose.


22 Feb 12 - 06:21 PM (#3311915)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST

More time for important stuff... Like drenkin'...

B;~)


22 Feb 12 - 06:51 PM (#3311922)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Threads below the line are an important genesis of thoughts, ideas, dicussions... which lead to banter between many different people from many different countries and cultures. They lead to education, mutual support, healing, stories... and, yes, songs.

To lose the BS section would be a terrible thing IMO. And, as pointed out, it probably wouldn't make a difference in access.


22 Feb 12 - 07:17 PM (#3311925)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bobert

No BS???

No Mudcat...

Just MO, of course...

B~


22 Feb 12 - 07:18 PM (#3311926)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

I don't know if it's the amount of data being stored. Seems to me that keeps growing, but doesn't fluctuate. What DOES is how many hits Mudcat gets and what happens because of them. It could be people here on purpose, people that come through searches, spammers, and who knows what all that come to Mudcat and queries so that Mudcat works to answer. I don't know, but I DO know Max needs some new equipment.


22 Feb 12 - 07:30 PM (#3311932)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Charley Noble

Love to see some budget numbers for new equipment. Let's go shopping!

Charley Noble


22 Feb 12 - 09:12 PM (#3311957)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,oldddude

My server will be at Max's house this Sunday. My brother goes to the town to see his grandkids and will be delivering it, hang in there


22 Feb 12 - 11:49 PM (#3311975)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

Upgrade financials coming very very soon... but you ain't gonna like it. Lots of zeros in this here number.


23 Feb 12 - 03:16 AM (#3311985)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Dave Hanson

It's running pretty good this morning, 8.15am UK time.

Dave H


23 Feb 12 - 03:38 AM (#3311990)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

0930 UK time - presumably UK catters not having the first hit of the day just yet, and US ones asleep, so server demand way down. This thread came up snappily. I'll try some more.


23 Feb 12 - 03:40 AM (#3311991)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

Drat - fat fingers - 0830 UK time. Post took 40 seconds to take and then another 20 seconds to get back to this box.


23 Feb 12 - 03:54 AM (#3311996)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: scouse

9:51AM. very slow this morning over here in dear "Cloggieland."
As Aye,
Phil.


23 Feb 12 - 03:58 AM (#3311998)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Alan Day

Sometimes it's here and sometimes it isn't .It is just what you get used to I suppose.It has been the same since I first became a member.
Any other site I would have given up on it after a few weeks.
Al


23 Feb 12 - 04:33 AM (#3312004)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

I've had it. Going to buy some hardware today. We'll be down for an hour or two midday US time, but should be peppy before y'all in the UK go to bed tonight. Database server is taxed to the max. Something's gotta give.


23 Feb 12 - 04:37 AM (#3312005)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,IslandOwl

Good to know it is not just me! I have not been able to get on for a couple of days because the browser was timing out. I am still a newbie to the site so was wondering.


23 Feb 12 - 04:45 AM (#3312006)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Thu 09:44 UK, seems to have picked up a treat now.

Mick


23 Feb 12 - 06:35 AM (#3312042)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

It's better here in Maine than it has been for a week or more.

Thank you, Max.


23 Feb 12 - 06:51 AM (#3312049)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

Yup, 5 seconds to open the thread. That tells us who the capacity hogs are! 11.51 UK time.


23 Feb 12 - 06:52 AM (#3312050)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

And 5 seconds to post the above.

Perhaps Max has found the "FASTER< FASTER< FASTER" button.


23 Feb 12 - 07:21 AM (#3312057)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

Pageloads averaging 852 milliseconds for the last hour. Hot damn! Eaked another few days till olddude's server gets here.


23 Feb 12 - 07:22 AM (#3312058)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Charley Noble

Breath-taking!!!!

Charley Noble


23 Feb 12 - 07:36 AM (#3312065)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

WTG, Max.


23 Feb 12 - 07:36 AM (#3312068)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Beer

WOW!!
Break neck speed.

ad.


23 Feb 12 - 07:54 AM (#3312074)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: fat B****rd

The last time I did anything this fast I was loooed at disdainfully.
Thanks Max and everybody(and Dan).


23 Feb 12 - 08:22 AM (#3312080)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

WTG! Thanks.


23 Feb 12 - 09:05 AM (#3312096)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Mr Happy

Duh!

It's too fast now! 8-)


23 Feb 12 - 09:17 AM (#3312101)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,olddude

way too fast Max, now I can't do other stuff while I wait :-)
awesome Job


23 Feb 12 - 09:30 AM (#3312109)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Elmore

What a relief. thanks, Max.


23 Feb 12 - 10:09 AM (#3312123)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Monique

Thanks Max, it's perfect!


23 Feb 12 - 10:21 AM (#3312127)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: YorkshireYankee

Wow! What a difference!
What didja do? Was it very expensive?
Many thanks!


23 Feb 12 - 10:58 AM (#3312148)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Alan Day

Well done
Al


23 Feb 12 - 11:27 AM (#3312161)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

" (He) threatened its life with a railway-share;
       (He) charmed it with smiles and soap.
"


23 Feb 12 - 01:16 PM (#3312203)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Lighter

Seems normal now. Woohoo!


23 Feb 12 - 01:23 PM (#3312206)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Rog Peek

Pretty well gack to normal. Many thanks.

Rog


23 Feb 12 - 01:36 PM (#3312213)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Don Firth

Holy Holstein!!

I just clicked on the Mudcat icon on my favorites bar and before I could even lift my finger off the mouse button, there it was!!

Way to go, Max! Thanks!

Don Firth


23 Feb 12 - 01:57 PM (#3312221)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Tootler

Browsing on my phone no probe just now. Well done Max


23 Feb 12 - 02:07 PM (#3312223)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

Max is AWESOME!!



You were up early! How much do ya need to cover whatever you had to spend, today?

luvyakat


23 Feb 12 - 03:11 PM (#3312262)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Rapparee

Wadidit cost ya, Max? Ya need funds, including any to make the Olddude server git up an' go?


23 Feb 12 - 04:02 PM (#3312292)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: EBarnacle

Nicely done, Max. Thank you.


23 Feb 12 - 04:24 PM (#3312299)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Steve Gardham

Well done! Back up to speed.


23 Feb 12 - 05:01 PM (#3312312)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: The Barden of England

Max - You're the MAN. Working great now.
John Barden


23 Feb 12 - 05:20 PM (#3312323)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

He can't answer.... he's pedaling the bicycle hooked to the power supply....


23 Feb 12 - 05:43 PM (#3312333)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas

Mravelous improvement. Thanks.

I was so impressed with the return to normal that I decided to post something I'd been saving for a while. Unfortunately, when I switched tabs to copy a URL to add to the last line of my masterpiece, the thread creation window disappeared.

Maybe it's a new feature that was necessary????

Back to my drawing board.

John


23 Feb 12 - 06:05 PM (#3312344)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: George Papavgeris

Wey-hey! It's whizzing now.


23 Feb 12 - 06:11 PM (#3312350)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: bobad

Just blazing along at road runner speed.


23 Feb 12 - 06:19 PM (#3312357)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Joe_F

Hoo bloody ray!


23 Feb 12 - 06:26 PM (#3312361)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

BillD, here I thought you'd sent him your hamsters!


23 Feb 12 - 08:11 PM (#3312421)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

They were invited, but they were lolling on Hamster Beach


24 Feb 12 - 02:17 AM (#3312540)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Sandra in Sydney

yah Max & yah olddude

sandra


24 Feb 12 - 04:05 AM (#3312552)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: scouse

10:05 European time....Very reasonable this morning.
As Aye,
Phil.


24 Feb 12 - 06:44 AM (#3312594)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Suibhne Astray

Working quite briskly now, even though Facebook is on the fritz.


24 Feb 12 - 08:58 AM (#3312650)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Charley Noble

Max-

Much more better!

Send us the bill.

Charley Noble


24 Feb 12 - 01:59 PM (#3312828)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

"Send us the bill."

Check out the Mudcat Auction. I used to use this to donate quite often when I was flush. Now I am flushed.


24 Feb 12 - 11:56 PM (#3313069)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

Much better. Thank you!


25 Feb 12 - 02:25 PM (#3313319)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Girl Friday

Very slow on editing today... otherwise -not bad


04 Mar 12 - 05:07 PM (#3317253)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Speed is good in most cases, but some posts are slow to take, causing me worry about posting lyrics that take time to set up on a post.

On very long threads, e. g., the Bigots attack BP, I have had the thread freeze, and have to leave the mudcat site temporarily.


04 Mar 12 - 05:37 PM (#3317277)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,999

Q, over time I have learned that when the 'cat is tetchy it's worth it to copy the post in the event it doesn't take. That way you can put it onto a word document until such time as the 'cat's easier to get along with.


04 Mar 12 - 06:38 PM (#3317312)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas

I'll second k-1's recommendation that you copy a post before you hit submit, and will add the recommendation that you always preview before the final submit.

For really complex posts, I usually try to set the text up in Word before opening the Reply box. Then it's just a Copy/Paste to put it in the reply box. (Of course if you do this you do need to turn off the "curly quotes" in Word.)

There are TWO good reasons for the last suggestion.

1. On a really complex post it is possible for your connection to "time out" before you get done.

2. You can't look back at what others have posted, to make sure you're responding accurately, once you've hit the first preview.

(Of course you can always make your reply in a separate window/tab, but that means loading the thread twice.)

With respect to current mudcat performance, I'm getting quite a few clicks where the selected thread appears to have loaded completely, but is "DOA" and I can't scroll down or do anything else. Usually a "refresh" will reload and after the refresh everything works normally, but the "hung loads" seem to be annoyingly frequent. I suspect it's still due to overload of the server queue, but I've sent Joe an email and my speculations won't help until Max can take a look at it.

John


04 Mar 12 - 10:39 PM (#3317392)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: michaelr

What's the status of olddude's server getting to Max?


05 Mar 12 - 09:48 PM (#3317966)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Has mudcat been freezing up for anyone else? I had to close my browser and reload it at least 30 times today.


13 Mar 12 - 11:30 PM (#3322549)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

It's been ultra-slow, today. Anyone else notice?


14 Mar 12 - 12:07 AM (#3322556)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Beer

Pain in the arse.
ad.


14 Mar 12 - 01:30 AM (#3322568)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: JohnInKansas

I've only had to refresh about 3 times when a thread "hung" on me, but quite a few things have taken more than a minute to load.

I've put it down the the feud Anonymous is having with Jester, since two of our local TV stations have been reporting that their computers have crashed, died, totaled. (all the smoke escaped, and they don't work anymore.)

I may have spent (euphemism for wasted?) a little less time here than usual because it was really good entertainment watching a couple of our local fluff-heads trying to report the news without prompters, and one of the weather guys was absolutely hilarious without his fancy gimmicks. (I think the guy has an iPad app to read a thermometer, and even that was down - must be a "cloud app.")

Has anyone checked whether it's local or net-wide?

John


14 Mar 12 - 04:54 AM (#3322606)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Richard Bridge

Well all the rest of the web is up to speed here in Kent UK.

Ping of 39ms and download speed of 17.49Mbps.


14 Mar 12 - 04:32 PM (#3322902)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,leeneia

I had had trouble with the Mudcat freezing, but today it seems fine. How nice.


14 Mar 12 - 04:47 PM (#3322909)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: topical tom

Snails are faster.


14 Mar 12 - 10:28 PM (#3323017)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

It was slow for me on the 13th and into the early evening today (14th). Then I shut down my laptop because I got the low battery warning. After it finished recharging, I had trouble getting onto the Internet, but I think that's another issue. Once i got onto the Internet, Mudcat seemed to be working fine. I hope that continues to be true.


14 Mar 12 - 11:29 PM (#3323032)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

I wrote to soon. It has slowed down again.


15 Mar 12 - 02:07 AM (#3323050)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Max

Fancy shmancy new store-bought server arrives in the morning. Will take a couple days, maybe just one if I don't play with my kids, to get up and running, but we're close gang. I appreciate your patience, I'll make it up to all of you I promise, and we'll be tip top before you know it, it's assured.

In the meantime, that is to say: to pass the time, may I suggest switching underpants with your spouse for the evening and/or doing something you've never done before... or doing something you do in a venue you've never done it in before... that is to say: do something stupid.

Empower your whimsy, disarm regret, bend over willfully, cheerfully, for consequence and go out and make a memory that you and your spouse will awkwardly chuckle about till your end of days. Then we all win.

If your spouse is unwilling, call them a fuddy duddy, then bath, groom and dress in your finest means and manner, telephone the silliest person you know and take them out and do the smooshy ice cream dance.

If you do not have a spouse, practice saying yes in the mirror a few times and just generally having an affirmative attitude for several minutes, perhaps a snort or two from the vanilla extract bottle in the cupboard, then make that call you've been thinking about a lot lately. What the hell? It's mudcat tradition, you're just being a supportive member of the community and it's quirky traditions. Forgiveness is built in, whadaya got to lose?

If it all goes haywire, just abort the mission and start talking about what a wanker I am, and maybe drink the almond extract. And if it goes well, I just got you laid. You are welcome.

I do this sort of stuff every chance I get and look how well adjusted, patient, prudent and content I am.

You may now return to your version of reality.


15 Mar 12 - 04:06 AM (#3323069)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: My guru always said

Play with the kids, Max, much more important!

What are you smoking these days?


15 Mar 12 - 12:07 PM (#3323200)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

Do play with the kids and take your time but right now a page load never takes less than 15 second and a post to another thread just sat there 25 seconds before the system digested it.


15 Mar 12 - 07:34 PM (#3323346)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Paul Burke

By Imhotep! What's this queer blue face besmirching my screen? If I move the mouse over it, it expands to "feedback" but I wasn't Bjorn yesterday.


15 Mar 12 - 08:57 PM (#3323388)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Stilly River Sage

Yuck! I see it also. Max, is this a new app you're trying out? It looks cloyingly cheerful. That's a vote against it right there.

SRS


16 Mar 12 - 12:34 AM (#3323448)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

I agree with My guru always says. Playing with your kids is more important. I can wait.


16 Mar 12 - 09:28 AM (#3323610)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

I've been sitting here biting my tongue, already sore from such self-control efforts. I see the combined threads addressing the fuss about the Feedback flag has gone, so will offer these few thoughts here. The little blue Feedback flag was an experiment. What's so scary about Max trying things here, on HIS site? He's told us he'd be doing just that.

I clicked and sent him a short message. I thought it would be an easy way for us to offer helpful feedback and it seems generous of Max to even offer it. Suggestions about placement, blocking it, etc. could go right on the suggestion form. I blocked the little face just to see how it would respond, and was left with a plain blue flag; less of a distraction, yet still visible.

Sure enough, there were so many immediate complaints the Host of the Feast was exasperated enough to yank it before he could evaluate its effectiveness. I'm wicked cautious about such things...even removed my google+ membership...but this was clearly something of Max's. I don't believe I am entitled to a vote. We are "living" in Max's living room, for Pete's sake.

There are things here I am not thrilled about. I can offer opinions when invited to do so, but I am not interested in controlling what Max chooses to do with his site.

Hey Max, did you get my comment on the blue flag Feedback form? I wasn't sure the last part of my note was entered correctly...it said, "Thank you."


16 Mar 12 - 09:41 AM (#3323616)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

Well it gets slower here, as the US east coast wakes up, but is it my imagination, or has the font and the spacing changed?


16 Mar 12 - 09:44 AM (#3323617)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

Interesting, John. Font and spacing appear to me to be the same.


16 Mar 12 - 10:31 AM (#3323643)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: katlaughing

Play with the kids, Max.

Wish I'd seen the blue thingie, which reminds me, why are things always blue ala blue clicky thing?**BG**


16 Mar 12 - 02:03 PM (#3323763)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker

The Blue pop ups were an unexpected and suspicious [late night UK] imposition on OUR browsers and computers
- simple as that.

A thread title from Max prepaing us such an experiment would have been sufficient to allay all potential mudcat user questions
and concerns regarding issues of site security:
and having been properly informed that this was a legitimate 'survey request' and not a potential site 'hack' to be wary of,
many mudcatters would be more at ease to submit well considered positive replies.

That would have been easy fair and reasonable,

Every moment on the internet we are bombarded by all kinds of ugly distracting corporate advertising animations
and pop up/unders.

All of it a burden on our computer processing resources; and a larger percentage of it less than benign in intent.

That's why we as 'informed consumers' are forced into having to resort to deploying tiresome software counter measures
such as 'Ad Blockers'
which themselves can cause additional problems and conflicts with browser components.

It's a running perpetual battle between us and all those despicable corporate power greedy profiteering usurpers
of our personal internet liberties,
... and other international criminal gangs.

This is the wider context that popular forum site admins need to always be responsibly aware of when implementing
and surprising users with any well intentioned unexpected 'improvements' and developments.

Even more so with a bunch of notoriously die hard anti authoritarian paranoid conspiracy theorist misfits like mudcat members.


16 Mar 12 - 02:09 PM (#3323766)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

Birds of a feather


16 Mar 12 - 02:22 PM (#3323771)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: gnu

Max... play with the kids all weekend.

In my opinion, this thread SHOULD be about trying to help Max with feedback and info regarding users' experiences.

If there is to be a complaint department, I would like to offer my services to Max as the first line response to simple complaints.

Allow me to interview for the position herein...

Complaint : It's too slow and I am getting impatient.
gnu : It's free. Bite me.

Do I get the job?


16 Mar 12 - 03:13 PM (#3323797)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Stilly River Sage

I vote go hang out with the kids, we should all be doing more than playing on the computer this weekend.

I'm pulling weeds, but maybe tonight I'll round up my kids and take them out to dinner.

Good start to the weekend!

SRS


16 Mar 12 - 03:15 PM (#3323800)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: John MacKenzie

Some are pulling them, and some are smoking them ;-)


16 Mar 12 - 03:30 PM (#3323810)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bill D

"..why are things always blue ala blue clicky thing?"

they are blue by default.... you can change 'em to off-pink if you care to/....somewhere in settings. (I actually did change my
'visited links' color to a lighter red). You can have links underlined...or not...and in any font installed on your computer.

If you don't want to experiment with Max's 'interesting' suggestions, why...just go explore all the menu items for your browser.


16 Mar 12 - 05:17 PM (#3323844)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Bonzo3legs

Useless


16 Mar 12 - 08:28 PM (#3323919)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: YorkshireYankee

As others have already said, play with your kids.
We'll be fine.
Thanks for all you are doing, not to mention all you have already done -- and all you will no doubt do in the future...


18 Mar 12 - 02:05 AM (#3324375)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Ole Juul

I take it that blackout was due to server changeover. It's certainly much better now. In fact it's a treat!


18 Mar 12 - 02:06 PM (#3324665)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: Jeri

Zoom-soom now!
WTG Mr Grumpypants!


18 Mar 12 - 02:27 PM (#3324690)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

Merrily we roll along!

Thank you.


18 Mar 12 - 07:10 PM (#3324823)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: bobad

WSowza.....I've never seen it this fast - refreshes instantly.


18 Mar 12 - 07:18 PM (#3324830)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: bobad

The first word in my previous post is supposed to be Wowza, in case anyone is wondering.


18 Mar 12 - 11:30 PM (#3324919)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: ChanteyLass

Fantastic!


19 Mar 12 - 09:22 AM (#3325127)
Subject: RE: Mudcat Slow!!
From: maeve

Hi, Max. The Mudcat logo appears to be missing, and with it the Support Mudcat links. The "Order Mudcat cds" link is still visible, but leads to the following message: "Firefox can't find the server at tweedsblues.net." I'm still hoping for that one to include information about both Mudcat cd sets.

Perhaps you are working on these already. In any case, thanks.