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28 Feb 12 - 11:01 PM (#3314905) Subject: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer There is a thread that is started about Scotch and it is very interesting. What I would like to hear is stories about when you first started out drinking wine. Was it Dry? Was it bubbly? or was it sweet? A few of the shit brands that I went through were Matuse(sp.), 999, Loganberry. They were all great back in the 60ties but there must be more out there. Adrien |
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28 Feb 12 - 11:09 PM (#3314910) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: number 6 Szekszárd ... a dry red Hungarian wine .... the cheapest outside of the cheap sherries and ports and the crap domestic wines available at the time .... wan't a puke charger at all, actually was quite good. biLL |
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28 Feb 12 - 11:21 PM (#3314914) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Is it still available? |
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28 Feb 12 - 11:27 PM (#3314916) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: number 6 Yeah it is beer .... it appeared on the shelves her in the NBLiquor stores about 2 years ago ... now that Hungary isn't a communist country the price has shot up to around $14 ... outrageous ... what are poor students supposed to drink these days .... geeeesh. Thanks Beer .... This thread has drifted my mind back through to so many years ago and somehow this bit from Bob Dylan's song "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" is going through my head .... "I started out on burgundy But soon hit the harder stuff. Everybody said they'd stand behind me When the game got rough; But the joke was on me There was nobody even there to call my bluff. I'm going back to New York City; I do believe I've had enough." biLL |
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28 Feb 12 - 11:31 PM (#3314917) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: number 6 I should also add .... Szekszárd was a great accompaniment with some Acapulco Gold ... ;-) biLL |
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29 Feb 12 - 01:52 AM (#3314935) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Ebbie When I was 19, a 'friend' brought me some Mogen David. Ugh. It was years before I ever touched wine again. |
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29 Feb 12 - 02:10 AM (#3314938) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Bob the Postman Vancouver, 1972. Me and Lee used to jam with some help from a 26er of Four Aces sherry—the only 26er in the LCB store on Main that cost less than a dollar—99 cents, to be precise. After a while they replaced Four Aces with Old Niagara. Same "sherry", same price, but with a label aimed at the little old lady demographic instead of the skid row crowd. And I recall a bargain Hungarian claret that tasted like they crushed the grapes by putting them in a trough and driving a surplus Red Army jeep back and forth through them. B. C.'s Calona Wines had the jack series—Double Jack, which was 80% apple juice and 20% ethanol. If you got so sick on Double Jack that you couldn't touch it anymore you could always try Berry Jack or Cherry Jack. They all came in a 40 ounce jug so you could swig the poison hillbilly style. |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:01 AM (#3314963) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: saulgoldie Probly Boone's Farm. I heard (but never confirmed) that they put formaldehyde in it. Yeesh! But good for "quantity drinking." And, of course, puking. Saul |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:11 AM (#3314966) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Silas Hirondelle? Jeeze - did we actually drink that stuff? |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:18 AM (#3314968) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Steve Shaw I was ill with a severe cold the night before I got married in 1976. I got ratted on (among other beverages) a litre bottle of sweet white Hirondelle. Somewhere there's a photo of me brandishing the bottle wearing little except my wedding tie. The first bottle of wine I ever bought was in Italy in 1968 when I was 17, on a school trip. It cost the English equivalent of 1s 9d and was called Ocone. I don't think my stomach's recovered yet. |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:49 AM (#3314979) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: gnomad Blue Nun, Black Tower, generic 'Liebfraumilch', V.P., 'British Wine', there were some truly awful things about, probably still are if you go looking. The nastiest I ever tasted was the Bulgarian white wine I got in a hotel duty free shop back in '79. I was hotel-bound due to an injury and went to get a pack of cards to play patience, and a half-bottle of brandy. As the shop only took hard currency I offered my smallest note, a £5. My change was a tube of Primula cheese, some Dutch Guilders, and three bottles of supposed wine which I reckon started life in the battery of a malfunctioning tractor. It was dirt cheap, but still a bad bargain. |
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29 Feb 12 - 06:16 AM (#3314991) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Silas If you like reisling then Blue Nun and Black Tower are OK, more a victim of their sucess than crap product. In fact, most german wines are pretty good even supermarket own brand stuffis reasonably OK, its just not everyones taste these days. Don't compare with 'proper' quality stuff like a trockenbeerenauslese, but you pays your money and you takes your choice. |
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29 Feb 12 - 07:30 AM (#3315013) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Forgot about Morgen David, Ebbie, terrible stuff. Remember buying a bottle of it from a bootlegger. Buddy and I were about 14/15. To make it last we would mix it with a bottle of coke. Oh my God! Never tried those Bob the Postman. They do sound horrific. ad. |
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29 Feb 12 - 07:55 AM (#3315022) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: TheSnail Back in my student days, the usual party wine was called Carafino. It came in a carafe shaped bottle to make it look interesting and was CHEAP. It came to be known as Parafino. (UK parafin = USA kerosene) |
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29 Feb 12 - 08:01 AM (#3315024) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: bobad Like you Beer, I started out on those cheap Portuguese rosés, Mateus and Faisca - I can remember passing a bottle over a bathroom stall to a buddy as we were getting primed for a school dance. On trips to my buddy's in Vermont we had a chance to sample America's finest rot gut - our brands of choice were Thunderbird, Old Duke, Ripple, Wild Irish Rose and others which names I have thankfully forgotten. Fortunately I was blessed with a cast iron stomach in those days and don't remember having ever puked from imbibing. |
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29 Feb 12 - 08:48 AM (#3315047) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: kendall Wild Irish Rose has to be the bottom of the pit. I used to drink Lambrusco but red wine gives me migraines. |
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29 Feb 12 - 09:04 AM (#3315055) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Rapparee Wild Irish Rose, any flavor of Ripple, Boone's Farm, Black Bear (a mix of beer and sweet wine)...and because of one particular incident, Chateauneuf Du Pape in the twisted bottle. Mad Dog 20/20. Molly Pitcher Cannon Number 12 (I believe that was the number). And I still have a bottle of La Bonne Merde, the last bottle my brother ever made. I've been afraid to open it; I understand that it's so dry that if you open in it creates a black hole and sucks you into some other time-space place. Barenheier's Port, the bane of my childhood. |
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29 Feb 12 - 09:32 AM (#3315069) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer "La Bonne Merde!!". Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! Love it. Ad. |
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29 Feb 12 - 12:48 PM (#3315142) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: EBarnacle I am amazed that no one has mentioned Scuppernong. |
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29 Feb 12 - 01:32 PM (#3315177) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Rapparee I have a bottle of Mother's Scuppernong upstairs in my wine closet. That's a type of grape, not a brand name. Of course, I could also mention almost any wine from upstate New York back in the '60s. |
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29 Feb 12 - 01:51 PM (#3315187) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: gnu "La Bonne Merde"... heheheheee! BtP... same here. It was Apple Jack and Double Jack in the Hillbilly jugs, in the woods in a mid-winter deep freeze with a bunch of other teenagers. The only one that didn't puke was the one that didn't drink any of it. I like a dry white wine although I seldom touch the stuff. |
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29 Feb 12 - 02:14 PM (#3315195) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Back in the 60's-70's there were house parties everywhere. You brought your own booze and guitars if you played and drank till the wee hours. I recall how we loved to get about three couples for an evening supper. My buddy and i would fill the punch bowl with Loganberry Wine and set it at the middle of the table. We probably would fill it twice then get into the beer. Mornings came way to early especelly if you had to work. ad. |
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29 Feb 12 - 02:49 PM (#3315210) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: gnu Best wine I EVER tasted was made by a Newf buddy of mine. Gooseberry. He was experimenting with mixing the gooseberry wine with a strawberry wine. When I tried straight gooseberry wine, I told him I would buy stock in the company. Never had better wine before nor since. |
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29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM (#3315224) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Sandy Mc Lean Adrien, There is nothing wrong with those brands that you first mention! However atmosphere is important, and they are best consumed behind a dancehall with the brown paper bag still covering the bottle. These days wine consumers want it in a glass and some even want to sniff the cork (totally decadent)! And Kendall, Wild Irish Rose was also the title of my favourite George Jones song. He lies there holding his "Chateau Margaux 1995" just does not cut it! That being said I'm a rum and beer man. |
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29 Feb 12 - 03:06 PM (#3315225) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Rapparee There was an Italian wine, called something like "Rialto" (at least I seem to remember it began with a "R"). It kinda lost favor with people when it was discovered that the company was adding antifreeze -- ethylene glycol -- as a sweetener or something. Riunite! It was Riunite! |
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29 Feb 12 - 04:21 PM (#3315257) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Eliza Chateau Pis-de-Chat and Vin Tres Ordinaire! I used to love very sweet white wines, but as I aged I preferred robust red ones, (eg Roussillon region). Does anyone remember drinking Sangria in Spain when people first started going there in the 1960's? ("Abroad") I much, much prefer ale, but don't drink at all now. |
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29 Feb 12 - 04:59 PM (#3315263) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Bill D Zeller Schwarze Katz - was a regular item in the 60s....little plastic black cat hanging on the neck. |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:02 PM (#3315265) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Yes, yes, Bill. I remember that one. |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:25 PM (#3315272) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Jeri Mateus, Sangria: whoever made the stuff we used to fill rock concert wineskins with, Boonesfarm strawberry (blechhh), then MD 20/20, and Wild Irish Rose (let's just not mention Night Train, Ripple, and Thunderird). The last 5 taste similar, IIRC. I'm just not sure if that's going down or going the other way... |
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29 Feb 12 - 05:31 PM (#3315278) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Bill D Right ..Mateus... (I avoided Ripple and Thunderbird & such... saw too many 'effects' on others) |
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29 Feb 12 - 06:27 PM (#3315300) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: gnu Sandy... minds me of the old joke, "What kinda wind goes best with a brown paper bag?" |
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29 Feb 12 - 06:36 PM (#3315304) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: MarkS Wild Irish Rose, any flavor of Ripple, Boone's Farm. Gawd - the memories. Of course you had to add a package of Kool Aid to the bottle, and agitate violently. It was called "Shakemup." |
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29 Feb 12 - 06:40 PM (#3315309) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Yes Sandy, behind the dancehall where we boys thought we were men. ad. |
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29 Feb 12 - 06:47 PM (#3315314) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: MarkS Nowadays I prefer the better German whites. While Silas is quite right about the Trockenbeerenauslese, you do not need to go to that expense. Any "Auslese" from the Mosel region will be great. Oh - should mention the great late harvest whites now coming from the Finger Lakes region of New York State, and the great Eisweins coming from Ontario from the winerys along the QEW between Buffalo and Toronto. Always liked Canadian beer, but the wines are now getting great as well. Merci Canada! |
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29 Feb 12 - 07:33 PM (#3315333) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Rapparee I, myself, personally, have attended a wine tasting at a vineyard in England, in Cambridgeshire. The wines weren't all that bad, either. |
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29 Feb 12 - 08:10 PM (#3315351) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Bee-dubya-ell I remember drinking pretty much everything that's been mentioned so far, plus: Bali Hai - Sorta like Hawaiian Punch mixed with grain alcohol and vomit. Zapple - A Boone's Farm apple clone. It's the one I heard was purported to contain formaldehyde, not Boone's Farm. Annie Green Springs - Another Boone's Farm apple clone. Or maybe it's the one that was supposed to contain formaldehyde. Andre' Cold Duck - Like Ripple, but in a real wine bottle. |
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29 Feb 12 - 08:21 PM (#3315353) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Joe_F In my childhood, Manischewitz was drinkable. In my old age, by divine intervention, it becomes drinkable again at Passover -- and hard-boiled eggs become edible. The rest of the year, my standard wine is Sutter Home -- only $6 a bottle, and they put a tab on the foil seal, so you don't need a tool to remove it. Respect for the customer! |
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01 Mar 12 - 05:41 AM (#3315483) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Seayaker Years ago I bought a bottle of red in Tesco's called "Odessa Steps" as it was about £2 cheaper than anything else on the shelf. It came from somewhere in the old Soviet Union so far north that they couldn't possibly grow grapes properly and the taste reflected that. Even adding lots of sugar couldn't make it drinkable and it went down the sink. The buyer should have been sent to the Gulag. |
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01 Mar 12 - 08:21 AM (#3315537) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Patsy Concorde sparkling wine it was very cheap very sweet and nasty at the time just over £1 a bottle when it was first introduced, that was in Tesco in the 70's. I didn't know very much about wines at all back then it reminded me of drinking vinegar it puzzled me how wine experts could possibly detect hints of blackberry etc. to me it was like something to strip varnish with, so something as cheap as Concorde seemed like a good idea at the time. Blue Nun, Black Tower or Liebfraumilch were the next safe bet especially when trying to impress other 18 year olds. Now I prefer beer and fruit ciders. |
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01 Mar 12 - 08:58 AM (#3315560) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Seayaker, maybe it was from the Gulag. ad. |
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01 Mar 12 - 10:03 AM (#3315582) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Rapparee A wine was good when it had only hints of turpentine, raw sewage, and battery acid. If it more than hinted at something like chloroform or rotten fish it was considered "great". If you could tell the time of day it was made and it wasn't more than a week old you were a wine connasewer. |
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01 Mar 12 - 10:38 AM (#3315604) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: EBarnacle Then, there is the classic Chateau Thames Embankment so beloved by Rumpole. Of course I know that Scuppernong is a grape, not a brand. They all suck. |
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01 Mar 12 - 12:51 PM (#3315677) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Eliza Who was that frightful wine buff lady, Jilly Goolies or something? The one who used to enthuse "I'm getting... plum...and...chocolate and... woody tones.." etc. Pretentious twit! |
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01 Mar 12 - 02:07 PM (#3315727) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Sandy Mc Lean And a delicate hint of fusel oil............... |
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01 Mar 12 - 05:32 PM (#3315800) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Seayaker Oddessa Steps could be described as "Vinegar with a delicate hint of Fennings Fever Cure" |
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01 Mar 12 - 08:31 PM (#3315884) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Joe_F The winter will be short, the summer long, The autumn amber-hued, sunny and hot, Tasting of cider and of scuppernong -- All seasons sweet, but autumn best of all.... -- Elinor Wylie |
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02 Mar 12 - 08:36 AM (#3316062) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Greg B I'm astonished that nobody has mentioned Cribari yet. Good ol' Papa Cribari... |
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02 Mar 12 - 08:47 AM (#3316067) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Bonzo3legs We drink mainly Argentine and Chilean red which mostly originates from Argentina anyway it seems! Any white wine is guaranteed to give me a headache - and the convention of serving it chilled is just plain daft. |
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02 Mar 12 - 10:10 AM (#3316101) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: deepdoc1 Seems I recall Paisano Red from the mid-60's. 2 or 3 bucks a large jug (gallon?). Sneaking out to drink that stuff seemed to be better than doing homework.... In the Navy I recall Cello Lambrusco as being soda pop with a kick. |
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02 Mar 12 - 10:10 AM (#3316102) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Steve Shaw Yikes, warm white wine? :-O |
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02 Mar 12 - 06:58 PM (#3316336) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: jimmyt Lord, you have all mentioned some real swill! INterestingly enough, though you can find some reasonably priced (cheap) wines that will be better than the expensive counterparts. I am a chardonney drinker and pretty much prefer Rombuer and Sonoma Cutrer, (both in the $30 per bottle range,) but I found a bottle of something called Bay Bridge at Kroger. It is not as good, but it is also $4 a bottle and absolutely drinkeable! THink I will have a glass RIGHT NOW! |
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02 Mar 12 - 07:02 PM (#3316338) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Bluesman The worst has to be Buckfast Wine. It is made by the Monks in Buckfast Abbey here in England. It is rough. |
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02 Mar 12 - 07:07 PM (#3316345) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: jimmyt you know, Bluesman, I actually had some of that while at Buckfest Abbey a few years ago and I agree with your opinion! I kinda thought it was bottled right behind the urinals in the Monks' toilet! |
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02 Mar 12 - 09:19 PM (#3316401) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: deepdoc1 A San Diego friend always had something called two-buck Chuck from Trader Joe's(?). Used to be two bucks a bottle, though I think it's gone up tp three or so. As I recall, after the first glass it wasn't half bad. |
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02 Mar 12 - 09:48 PM (#3316423) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Joe_F Always drink something better for the first glass. |
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02 Mar 12 - 10:22 PM (#3316438) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Neil D What's the word? Thunderbird What's the price? Forty twice What's the action? Satisfaction |
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02 Mar 12 - 11:19 PM (#3316471) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer How true Joe. Like your behind the urinals assessment jimmyt. ad. |
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03 Mar 12 - 02:35 PM (#3316743) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Elmore Thunderbird and Wild Irish Rose. A serious hangover with every bottle. Just the distant memory makes me feel a little ill. |
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03 Mar 12 - 10:28 PM (#3316932) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Well Ladies and gentlemen here is a list of the "Puke Wines" that you have mentioned. The only two that I don't think should be on the list is Blue Nun and Black Tower. Not that I have tasted all of the lovely names you have mentioned, but these two I have and even though I don't like sweet wines I would not consider them "Puke". Wouldn't it be great to have a bottle of each of these mentioned in the list below on our shelves to admire. Not opened of course. Adrien Mateus, Szekszárd, Mogen David, Four Aces, Old Niagara, Double Jack, Berry Jack, Cherry Jack, 999, Loganberry, Boone's Farm, Hirondelle, Ocone, Blue Nun, Black Tower, Liebfraumilch, Carafino, Faisca, Thunderbird, Old Duke, Ripple, Wild Irish Rose, Black Bear, Chateauneuf Du Pape, Mad Dog 20/20, La Bonne Merde (special edition to the list.), Barenheier's Port, Scuppernong, Apple Jack, Riunite, Chateau Pis-de-Chat, Vin Tres Ordinaire, Zeller Schwarze Katz, Sangria, Boonesfarm Strawberry, Night Train, Ripple,Thunderird, Another special mention "Shakemup" by Mark S., Bali Hai, Zapple, Annie Green Springs, Andre' Cold Duck, Manischewitz, Sutter Home, Odessa Steps, Chateau Thames Embankment, Cribari, Paisano Red, Cello Lambrusco, Buckfast Wine, Two-Buck Chuck, |
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04 Mar 12 - 10:55 AM (#3317117) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Frug Old mate of mine was known as the Lambrusco Kid always to be found with at least one bottle in a bag in case he found a party to go to. Ahh the memories that these names bring back.... and Blue Nun what a great movie that was. |
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04 Mar 12 - 09:27 PM (#3317372) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer Frug...... Your kidding about the movie, right? |
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05 Mar 12 - 08:43 AM (#3317589) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Patsy Personally I don't mind the taste of white wine not chilled or not quite chilled enough. To my mind champagne is overated not exactly puke but not all that it is cracked up to be, it was a bit of a disappointment when I tried it. I am just as happy with sparkling wines for special occasions. |
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05 Mar 12 - 09:08 AM (#3317601) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Phil Cooper on Susan's laptop In college sometimes we drank Annie Greensprings plum wine (1973-1977). I decided around then I preferred beer. I've since had a few much better wines, but they all sort of taste like cough syrup to me. So, I figure wine is kind of wasted on me. |
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05 Mar 12 - 09:54 AM (#3317625) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,Frug Yes Beer I am kidding....... but it may be out there somewhere. |
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05 Mar 12 - 12:09 PM (#3317707) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: saulgoldie Oh, and Almaden light white rhine wine. It helps with that nasty roughness in your throat from the roach. Geddit by the gallon sose you can pass it around. Saul |
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05 Mar 12 - 09:46 PM (#3317965) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: Beer I like the name Fruf. "Blue Nun". Lot's of possibilities with that title. Incidentally, I just remembered that when I was drinking all those great wines, my wife (40 years a few months back)and I named our first cat "Mateus". I think that the next one I'll get I will do it again. Nice name and maybe I'll try another bottle if it still exist. ad. |
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06 Mar 12 - 12:05 PM (#3318247) Subject: RE: BS: Puke Wines From: GUEST,999 You folks haven't lived. St George's. It was St George's wine what killed the dragon. Used to buy it before it escalated in price to over $3.50 a gallon. |