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30 May 12 - 06:20 AM (#3357159) Subject: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: The Sandman Enda Kenny plays chichester folk club. |
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30 May 12 - 07:10 PM (#3357419) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: framus Might be the Mammy's cousin Enda! |
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31 May 12 - 07:41 AM (#3357589) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: GUEST,Guest Finger on the pulse again Dick? This Enda Kenny has been living in Melbourne Australia for the best part of twenty years in between musical visits to the old country and the UK. Remember him well from Whitby Folk Week. A fine singer and musician and writer of some memorable songs. Also a thoroughly nice guy. |
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31 May 12 - 11:11 AM (#3357668) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: GUEST,leeneia How do you pronounce that - taoiseach? |
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31 May 12 - 11:21 AM (#3357671) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: Pete Jennings "Tee-shuck", I think...my sister used to live in Dublin and that's how I remember it being pronounced. |
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31 May 12 - 11:35 AM (#3357675) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: MartinRyan tee - shuck with the first syllable stressed and the last sound guttural - will do fine. Usual variation with accent, dialect, experience with the language etc. Regards |
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31 May 12 - 12:23 PM (#3357692) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: GUEST,leeneia Thanks. |
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31 May 12 - 03:43 PM (#3357756) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: The Sandman Guest Guest, as a matter of fact, I was also gigging Whitby festival, at the same time as Enda. I know exactly who he is, Geoff, certainly a better performer than the teeshuck. buzz off with all this finger on the pulse stuff, if you have an axe to grind, print your proper name you coward. |
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01 Jun 12 - 02:35 PM (#3358088) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: Geoff Wallis Dick, A good friend of mine notifies me whenever you slur my good name. I assure you that I did not post the 'guest' message above. Now, get off my case. |
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01 Jun 12 - 06:27 PM (#3358177) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: GUEST,Peter K (Fionn) I empathise with meaningful efforts to keep Gaelic alive and I can just about understand Ireland clinging to "taoiseach" - though it looks a bit CCE to me :-) - but I am baffled that UK media use that term when referring to Ireland's PM. They would not refer to the president of Serbia as "presednik" for instance. |
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02 Jun 12 - 09:12 AM (#3358324) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: Jim Martin "Usual variation with accent, dialect, experience with the language etc." - I often hear "taoiseach" pronounced "Tee-shock".This is the trouble with trying to learn the Irish language - I guess people have the same problem with trying to learn the English language (local variations)! |
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03 Jun 12 - 08:43 AM (#3358717) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: The Sandman nobody mentioned Geoff Wallis other than Geoff Wallis himself, now Geoff Wallis I suggest you get off my case. |
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03 Jun 12 - 03:06 PM (#3358841) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: Geoff Wallis My, what a very unpleasant chap you are, Dick. |
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03 Jun 12 - 04:09 PM (#3358853) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: The Sandman Geoff, merely stating a fact,nobody mentioned Geoff Wallis other than Geoff Wallis himself. |
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04 Jun 12 - 02:48 PM (#3359208) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: MartinRyan Coincidentally, I expect to meet him (the singer not the Taoiseach) at a session in Kinvara tonight... The point, incidentally, about the title "Taoiseach" is that, in Ireland, it as also used as the gentleman's (all of 'em so far - though some more than others) TITLE/honorific in English. Just think of it as a return for "crack" which, on an even shorter timescale, has been imported into Irish as "craic"! Regards |
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04 Jun 12 - 07:51 PM (#3359333) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: MartinRyan Coincidentally, I expect to meet him (the singer not the Taoiseach) at a session in Kinvara tonight... And a very fine session it was, too! Regards |
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05 Jun 12 - 05:38 PM (#3359728) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: framus Speaking as a Proddy Paddy, is craic an actual word in Irish? I've been using crack for many, many (many,many,many) years. See "The crack was good in Cricklewood". And I still think yer man is Bunjy Kennefick's cousin! |
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05 Jun 12 - 06:36 PM (#3359749) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: MartinRyan Hi Framus The word "crack" seems to have come into Ireland from North of England dialect via the North of Ireland where it has always been very common. The absorption into the Irish language (with the spelling "craic", there being no k in Irish!) is quite recent. The "Irish" spelling is now frequently used even when the context is English. I've never heard older native speakers of Irish use the word although the younger generation do so - as they do with quite a few other English words, often applying Irish grammatical rules to them Regards |
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06 Jun 12 - 06:37 PM (#3360203) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: framus Many thanks Martin. Craic seems awfully popular with English poseurs. Never came across it in Flann O'Brien! (Who wasn't averse to dropping great chunks of Irish into his columns and books.) |
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06 Jun 12 - 07:04 PM (#3360214) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: MartinRyan Flann O'Brien/Myles na gCopaleen/Brian O Nualain etc. was raised in Irish by his (eccentric) father and only learned English later. He had an excellent command of both languages to the point where he could take the piss in both languages equally brilliantly! Regards |
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07 Jun 12 - 06:00 PM (#3360655) Subject: RE: Taoiseach does a bit of moonlighting? From: framus He seemed to make a fair fist of Latin too, but it might have been cod. I gave it up after third form. |