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BS: Big error in Skyfall!!

11 Nov 12 - 01:10 PM (#3434810)
Subject: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs

Skyfall shows a train at Temple station, which is on the Circle and District line. But it was a Northern line train: a Tube train, not a full-size train like those that run on the Circle or District Line.

Are we not supposed to notice these things???

Good to see Albert Finney again though.


11 Nov 12 - 01:42 PM (#3434822)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs

Ah, it seems that the disused Jubilee Platform at Charing Cross Station was used which carried the smaller tube trains rather than the larger type used on the Circle and District lines.


11 Nov 12 - 01:42 PM (#3434823)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton

I cried twice when I noticed that


11 Nov 12 - 01:46 PM (#3434825)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs

I was glad to hear the guitar phrase made famous by Vic Flick in the James Bond Theme! Not sure if I like the Skyfawwww song by Adeeeeeew or not.


11 Nov 12 - 01:50 PM (#3434827)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,A Red under your bed

Hmm.. ok Bonz,

now waiting to see how you'll
wind this up to blame a simple movie production continuity error
on PC gone mad brigade /namby pamby welfare state /scrounging single parent /uncontrollable immigration...

etc.. etc.. etc..

& steel bands !!!


11 Nov 12 - 02:40 PM (#3434859)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: greg stephens

Accent wise, which particular part of the world was Albert Finney meant to be from?


11 Nov 12 - 03:54 PM (#3434882)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs

I don't know, but the in the song "Run Down Heroes" it says that he had " a johnny in his pocket and brylcream in his hair"!!!


11 Nov 12 - 03:58 PM (#3434886)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk

Shocking, Bonzo! Just shocking! I shall not sleep well tonight knowing about this dreadful movie-making error.


11 Nov 12 - 04:42 PM (#3434902)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: John MacKenzie

I'm undercome.


11 Nov 12 - 05:51 PM (#3434926)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Amos

There are pills for that, Jock...


12 Nov 12 - 09:34 AM (#3435188)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton

I have re-read this thread and .................. I cird twice again


12 Nov 12 - 09:35 AM (#3435189)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton

Then when I saw what I had done I cried twice as well


12 Nov 12 - 09:43 AM (#3435193)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Keith A of Hertford

But, apart from that, completely true to life?


12 Nov 12 - 10:19 AM (#3435217)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Peter

Bonzo was not the only one to notice


12 Nov 12 - 10:41 AM (#3435226)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Nigel Parsons

They were going to use Kings Cross, platform 9 3/4 but they couldn't find it.

Bloody muggles!


12 Nov 12 - 11:01 AM (#3435236)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Midchuck

Skyfall shows a train at Temple station, which is on the Circle and District line. But it was a Northern line train: a Tube train, not a full-size train like those that run on the Circle or District Line.

Are we not supposed to notice these things???


Well, I doubt that many of us over here would be terribly bothered...

P.


12 Nov 12 - 11:08 AM (#3435241)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Les in Chorlton

Well, that's all very well for you to say Ms/Mr Mudchuck! Along with Morris Dancing, Pace Egging, Mummers Plays and Sea Shanties the complete coherence of Bond is one of our most important traditions!


12 Nov 12 - 01:05 PM (#3435327)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk

There is also some pretty compelling evidence that real secret agents don't have nearly as much expensive gadgetry as Bond does, and don't kill nearly as many people or bed nearly as many drop-dead-gorgeous women...at least not without paying them first! With this in mind, I think the public should boycott James Bond movies and picket the theatres, demanding more truth and accuracy in popular escapist entertainment.


12 Nov 12 - 01:37 PM (#3435350)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

Good idea, Little Hawk. There should be absolute realism in all fantasy films. The characters should have dandruff and burp now and then. The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.


12 Nov 12 - 01:39 PM (#3435352)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie

I like the usual stereotyping where villains are physically deformed and / or gay.

Restores my cynicism in human nature.

Still, good to see 007 back all the same.


12 Nov 12 - 02:07 PM (#3435375)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST

Bonz, save yourself the anguish of ever watching the Wesley Snipes action thriller "The Contractor" (2007)

The London trains & Stations vary between Welsh and Bulgarian,
depending wherever the production could afford to shoot scene by scene...


12 Nov 12 - 02:16 PM (#3435380)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Lizzie Cornish 1

I gave up James Bond when I watched the previous film..Casino Royale...

The gratuitous, close-up, lengthy and deeply violent scenes in it were horrifying, for me, at least.

So bye-bye, 007, for your producer/director left me very shaken, but not stirred at all.


12 Nov 12 - 03:16 PM (#3435415)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Jim Carroll

The wrong type carriage on the line in Skyfall is rather small beer compared to the full length train puffing its way across the horizon in El Cid.
Or the cloak of a witness at a public hanging in 'Grip of the Strangler', which swings aside revealing a copy of The Daily Mirror - helps to liven up an indifferent film no end.
Jim Carroll


12 Nov 12 - 07:40 PM (#3435540)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Wesley S

The IMDB has a "goofs" page on all the movies it reviews - but it doesn't look like yours has made it yet.


IMDB page on Skyfall


13 Nov 12 - 04:11 AM (#3435676)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Richard Bridge

I vaguely remember being told that there were a whole load of errors in the Bond books too. I think one was Felix Leiter's car but I am not clear about them.


13 Nov 12 - 04:14 AM (#3435678)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Richard Bridge

I remember another. Bond ordering half a bottle of Pol Roger, when they never existed. I'm quite surprised that Bozo did not mention that.


13 Nov 12 - 09:32 AM (#3435771)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: bubblyrat

The actress ,Alex Kingston , playing the part of Moll Flanders saying to the captain of a 17th Century sailing ship " Aren't you wanted on the bridge ?" And the episode of "Foyle's War" featuring a Royal Navy Captain with a moustache ! And I believe that if you watch closely in "Ben Hur" you can see someone driving a mini .Worst of all though ; Americans escaping from German POW camp in "The Great Escape" ( there were none there at that time ); and Steve McQueen's motor-bike was a Triumph !!


13 Nov 12 - 09:39 AM (#3435776)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Will Fly

Actually, the Triumph was thousands of years old and belonged to Moses.

"And the roar of Moses Triumph could be heard throughout Jericho..."


14 Nov 12 - 02:06 AM (#3436280)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Musket sans cookie

Bridge mentions the books. Fleming once wrote that homosexuals are unable to whistle.


14 Nov 12 - 06:00 AM (#3436333)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Dave MacKenzie

I've got a vague memory about Fleming being quizzed about the errors in the books, and replying that they were deliberate as he didn't want to fall foul of the Official Secrets Act.


14 Nov 12 - 07:35 AM (#3436370)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Black Belt Caterpillar Wrestler

Just think of it as a parallel universe!


14 Nov 12 - 07:38 AM (#3436374)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Will Fly

Eliza: The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.

I'm just auditioning for the next Bond caper even as we speak...


14 Nov 12 - 08:05 AM (#3436389)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: MGM·Lion

Well, yes ~~ so: my near-namesake Mike Myers?

~M~


14 Nov 12 - 01:18 PM (#3436524)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Dave the Gnome

What you are all forgetting is that he is a spy - This is probably a top secret line with a top secret size changing train...

DtG


15 Nov 12 - 12:07 AM (#3436790)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Patsy

Bond is complete fantasy so any errors in the films is hardly going to matter anyway. Personally I would not waste my time and money.


15 Nov 12 - 12:56 AM (#3436794)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Joe Offer

Can somebody give us links to photos of the trains and stations in question?


15 Nov 12 - 01:27 AM (#3436797)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Teribus

"There is also some pretty compelling evidence that real secret agents don't have nearly as much expensive gadgetry as Bond does"

Not surprising seeing as how the fictional character James Bond is NOT a Secret Agent (No such thing in Government Service), he is an Intelligence Officer, his sources would be termed agents.


15 Nov 12 - 04:39 AM (#3436824)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Jim McLean

Bond is a an intelligence Officer who says his allegiance is to England. Later on we find he has a Scottish father and a Latino mother. A bit like Micheal Portillo?


15 Nov 12 - 06:27 AM (#3436848)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Green Man

There should be absolute realism in all fantasy films. The characters should have dandruff and burp now and then. The spy should have a large paunch and man-boobs like normal men. He should have erectile problems when bedding the cellulite-legged ladies, and his car should have an out-of-date Tax disc on the windscreen.

Obviously a Brit. :)


16 Nov 12 - 05:40 AM (#3437324)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

LOL Will Fly, I'll be auditioning for the cellulite-legged lady. Actually, I imagine a spy would get by unnoticed if he closely resembled all the other people around him. If a clean-shaven Adonis in an extremely expensive and speedy car with a flash bird beside him rolled into town, people just might think. "Aha! A spy!" But if a chap in long baggy shorts, socks and sandals driving an ageing Vauxhall Corsa appeared, trailing BO and with yellow teeth, people wouldn't say anything at all.


16 Nov 12 - 08:46 PM (#3437636)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk

That's for damned sure! ;-D

I actually really liked the recent "Casino Royale"...liked "Quantum of Solace" less. I think Daniel Craig makes a superb James Bond. It's sheer escapism, so I don't worry about it resembling reality.


17 Nov 12 - 02:17 AM (#3437690)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn

"But if a chap in long baggy shorts, socks and sandals driving an ageing Vauxhall Corsa appeared, trailing BO and with yellow teeth, people wouldn't say anything at all."

Depends where it is of course. If your guy in baggy shorts, socks and sandals turned up at the expensive casino in Shanghai ( ie where Bond nearly has a run in with a kimono lizard in the new film) then your guy might not only be very noticed but he probably wouldn't even be let in! The rest of the characters were in expensive suits etc so Bond blended in.


17 Nov 12 - 02:22 AM (#3437692)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn

"I think Daniel Craig makes a superb James Bond" Being Scottish I supposed I'm supposed to say "no no Sean is the best Bond" but actually I think Daniel Craig is the best Bond there's been. I kind of thought that anyway but Skyfall has convinced me all the more. Saying that I'm not a real fan of the movies but I really did enjoy the new one.


17 Nov 12 - 05:30 AM (#3437720)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

Allan, you're right, it does depend on where the spy goes. My description would help him to fit in on the streets of Dereham for example (a small town near where I live) but not in Monte Carlo.


17 Nov 12 - 07:22 AM (#3437751)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Patsy

I'm more of a fan of the Bond themes rather than the films themselves. Still can't decide which is my all time favourite.


17 Nov 12 - 09:01 AM (#3437770)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk

Chongo tells me that he is negotiating a deal to appear in the next film in the franchise. He'll play a special investigator from Africa who works alongside Bond (Daniel Craig). Bond will attempt to penetrate the heavily guarded Lichtenstein defense establishment and prevent deployment of their doomsday weapon...the dreaded Jello Bomb! Should be interesting. They're reputed to be developing a mango-flavored version of it, and that's where Chongo's expertise will prove vital.


17 Nov 12 - 12:14 PM (#3437841)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn

"on the streets of Dereham" My wife lived in Norwich when she was young but went to school in Dereham! Not sure which school but it was a girl's school


17 Nov 12 - 05:22 PM (#3437945)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

Very interesting Allan! Not sure which school it might have been.
Possibly Neatherd High School (formerly Dereham High School for Girls). Funnily enough we don't go to Dereham much. We prefer Norwich and Wroxham for shopping etc. (Sorry about this thread drift)
Patsy, I also like the Bond themes, but don't rate Adele's song much, do you?


18 Nov 12 - 05:22 AM (#3438070)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Bonzo3legs

"but don't rate Adele's song much, do you?"

At least she doesn't speak during the song!!!


18 Nov 12 - 09:10 AM (#3438142)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Little Hawk

Eh? Does she hum it?


18 Nov 12 - 10:27 AM (#3438176)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn

Yes Eliza it was Dereham High School For Girls. She lived in Old Costessey on the outskirts of Norwcih though. We used to go to Norwich a lot but haven't been for years as my in-laws have moved up here to the Scottish Borders now. Norwich is a lovely ity though. We used to go to Roy's Of Wroxham shopping.

I know what you mean about the theme tune. I didn't really rate it but it did really work on the credits of the film. Songs should stand up on their own though!


18 Nov 12 - 01:09 PM (#3438252)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

Ah Allan, Costessey. Now that's a village that 'strangers' mispronounce, together with Wymondham, Guist and Bylaugh!


19 Nov 12 - 05:02 AM (#3438507)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: MGM·Lion

I know how to pronounce "Wymondham", Eliza, because Valerie & I went several years running to a Norfolk County Council Drama Summer School held in the 60s at Wymondham College.

But please enlighten as to correct pronunciation of those others, please.

~M~

sorry if drift; but as I never tire of saying, I am like that Dickens character who always "wants to know, you know"]


19 Nov 12 - 07:03 AM (#3438547)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: Allan Conn

I knew Wymondham too and Costessey is pronounced Cossey. Not sure about the others. Isn't there a place there called Happisburgh which is pronounced something like Haysburgh?


19 Nov 12 - 08:51 AM (#3438588)
Subject: RE: BS: Big error in Skyfall!!
From: GUEST,Eliza

This thread has suddenly taken a Norfolk turn!
Bylaugh is pronounced Beeler, Guist is pronounced Geist (as in poltergeist) Wymondham is Windem, and yes, Allan, Happisburgh is Hayesburgh, where there's a lovely red and white striped lighthouse, but the whole village is falling into the sea bit by bit. My favourite is Sparham, which the locals elongate almost indefinitely to Spaaaaaaaarham. There's a Nowhere Lane too, near Spaaaaaarham! I almost forgot the village of Fustyweed, which is just up the road from us. And Little and Great Snoring of course. Funny place, Norfolk. (Deepest apologies for this thread drift!)